Have they ever actually done anything wrong? It doesn't

>haven't taken any refugees
>good guys
they will pay for their transgressions, by allah.

>>75583969
>Have they ever actually done anything wrong?
yes, they trusted Brits instead of accepting Hitler's alliance's offer.

>>75583969
well hitler hated poland

>>75584039
Well, in their defense, they are not a developed nation unlike other nations that got rich during the 19th century exploiting the riches of far continents and now don't even want to be part the Europe that swear to defend against the Nazis years ago just to let the Commies do all the dirty work.

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>>75584117
He actually did but only after we rejected his offer to ally with Germany.

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>>75583969
>It doesn't seem like they've ever violently conquered anything, committed any genocides, or really done any harm to anybody that wasn't in self-defence.
That's why they're the most kicked around people of history

>>75583969
They actually had imperialist ambitions but were too incompetent to carry them out successfully. And nowadays they love to play the victim card lol

>>75584277
/thread

>>75584277
>>75584309
and that's unironically good, non being rich is protecting them of being a muslims shithole like the UK and Germany

>>75584277
Imperialist ambitions such as what? They didn't even have a form of government that allowed the king or anybody to initiate offensive wars, it would have been rejected by the Sejm immediately in almost all cases. It sounds like you're just making shit up desu.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonization_attempts_by_Poland

>>75583969
Poland is considered the "Christ of the nations" because of that

>>75584245
Whichever Slavs were "acceptable" to Hitler always just depended on who collaborated with him the most.
>agree to send him Jews or contribute troops to the SS
>suddenly the Nazi government has discovered proof that you are actually descendants of a long-lost Germanic tribe or something and therefore are okay guys
Every time

>>75584436
tl;dr version - big fucking nothing

Honestly don't think there's anything more pathetic or embarrassing than Slav neo-Nazis

>>75584512
>>75584512
It's the intention that counts
>>75584555
black neo-nazis?

>>75584555
Jewish Neo-Nazis

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>>75584436
>colonization attempts by Poland
>while no such country on the map
isn't that hilarious?

>>75584599
>intention
ha. Ha. Hahaha

>>75584436
>In 1882, almost a century after Poland was partitioned and lost its independence, Polish nobleman and officer of Russian Imperial Fleet, Stefan Szolc-Rogoziński organized an expedition to Cameroon.[3][4] Officially that was an exploration expedition, but unofficially the expedition was looking for a place a Polish colony could be founded.[5]
it would have been pretty hilarious if Poland just decided "fuck you guys, we're done being part of Europe" and just moved to Africa.

>>75584399
yeah this >>75584436
and also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish–Muscovite_War_(1605–18)
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermarium

>>75584747
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermarium
So EU is really the 4th Reich then?

>>75584747
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish–Muscovite_War_(1605–18)
are you fucking SERIOUS?

>intermarium
>imperialistic
the kekkest of the kek

>>75584682
>>75584625
>>75584614
Two Polish flags and one Pole hiding behind a bong one. Good job PIDF.

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>>75584436
>>75584682
Apart from that our """colonies""" were a meme, we have always been very humane to the negros.

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>>75584747
kek when ebinland intermarium'd
what a nonsense

>>75584867
Read this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Haitians
>Dessalines called Polish people "the White Negroes of Europe"

>>75584843
>thread about Polish history
>Poles and people interested in Polish history show up
thank you for giving us the big enchilada on this conspiracy, Alex Jones

>>75584902
Looks like a christmas tree

>>75584930
>In 1802, Napoleon added a Polish legion of around 5,200 to the forces sent to Saint-Domingue to fight off the slave rebellion

>Upon arrival and the first combat actions, discovering that the slaves fought off their French masters for their freedom, vast majority of Poles eventually joined the slaves against the French

le kek

We conquered Pomeranians and forced them to convert, we also took Kiev and Moscow.

>>75585022
I took your mother.

>>75584930
holy shit this is pretty cool

>>75585082
Fuck off hohol.

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>>75583969

>http://culture.pl/en/article/slavery-vs-serfdom-or-was-poland-a-colonial-empire

>A peasant in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was obliged to work on his lord's land for a fixed number of days (this was at first considered as payment for using the land) – and these quota kept growing in early modern Poland, leading to a situation where the amount could reach more than seven days a week (sic!).

these peasants were mainly ukie descent

>In 1569, the Polish Crown entered a political union with Grand Duchy of Lithuania, which resulted in forming one of the biggest countries in the history of Europe: The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. The same political act incorporated large portions of most south-eastern voivodeships administered until then by the Grand Duchy of Lithuania into the Crown of Poland. This meant that large portions of the region which is today's Ukraine became the scene of a huge Polish economic expansion – a process that has been recently more and more often called 'colonization'.

>In what way did Poland colonize Ukraine? Sowa points that Polish colonization of Ukraine may be compared to the British colonization of India, in both cases it was only the elites (land owners) that were active in colonization. These elites were, on the one hand, coming from Poland to buy land (with peasants, naturally), on the other, the local Ruthenian nobility, owners of vast lands in this region, was becoming increasingly Polonized. This resulted in a situation where much of the Ukrainian farming land was in the hands of Polish or Polonized nobility – in other words in the hands of Polish landlords.

people point to bandera's massacre of the polish people as inhumane, but they don't realize it was the first slight against the evils of a much worse neighbor

>>75585280
>he doesn't know that a lot of peasants were richer than nobility

>>75585280
>Ukrainian farming land
What the fuck is that? There was no ukraine when the Commonwealth expanded in that direction.

>>75585280
none of this sounds remotely bad in the context of 16th century Europe. It also takes some pretty big liberties with the definition of colonization.

>>75585476
Not to mention that "ukraine" was a polish word, and name given by poles who settled there
It was something of the wild outskirts

>>75585280
>but they don't realize it was the first slight against the evils of a much worse neighbor
>ukrainians killing polish peasants in revenge for being made into peasants
Is this the extend of ukrainian intelligence? This only shows they have ZERO empathy for people that lived the same wretched lives as them.

>>75585382
>>75585476
>>75585546
>>75585574
>>75585639
> t. polish intelligence defense force
it was a good thread until you all flooded in

>ukrainian intelligence
im anglo australian

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Poland is pretty much the South Korea of Europe.

And Warsaw is the Seoul of Europe. Skyscrapers and commieblocks everywhere.

>>75585914
>Poland is pretty much the South Korea of Europe
I wish.

>>75583969
yes
they are catholics

>>75585870
Look m8 there is no justification for the massacres the Ukrainians did. Non. No amount of serfdom justifies cutting pregnant women with saws just to strangle the unborn babies. Bandera trash were animals.

>>75585870
so do you actually have any rebuttals or what? Your argument was pretty shit.

>>75585937
I'm not referring to the Korean economy, more like to history and recent architecture.

Both Poland and Korea were stuck between two superpowers for most of their history. Since 19th century, one of these superpowers was a relatively small, but very developed country (Germany-Japan), and the second one was big, yet lagging behind (Russia-China). And these two superpowers fought on their territory every century, killing and enslaving their people and destroying cities. Now they're mostly fine with both superpowers, yet they're still suspicious of them.

Also, both countries are among the most homogenous ones in the world.

The only difference between Poland and Korea is that they are richer than us, but not as much as people think, also they have to work more than us.

>>75583969
>Have they ever actually done anything wrong?
They invaded Russia, occupied Moscow and tried to install a puppet tsar in the 17th century. They also meddled with Moldovan politics and invaded and conquered Estonia.

It's the dindu nuffin country.

>>75586267
>They invaded Russia
How is that wrong?

>>75586267
D E L E T E
E
L
E
T
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>>75586267
>poland conquered estonia
wut?

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>conquer Pomerania, apparently with huge casualities and much destruction on Pomeranian side
>after ending war with Czechs raid Old Purssians pretty much for sport

in the middle ages we weren't peaceful we turned into faggots once PLC became a thing
>>75586267
>conquered Estonia
when? What the fuck is Estonia?

>>75583969
>Playing the victim is somehow morally virtuous
Pleb detected

>>75586267
Russia being ruled from Warsaw would have been the best solution for everybody desu

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>>75586350
Poland owned half of Estonia and the Polish king established the school in Tartu, that became the university then.

>>75586387
>playing

>>75586350
>>75586359
Southern Estonia to be specific.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Livonia

>>75586437
What kind of fucking war gave us Estonia? Who we even fought? Spurdos?

>>75586485
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livonian_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boles%C5%82aw_I%27s_intervention_in_the_Kievan_succession_crisis

you niggers

>>75586485
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rozejm_w_Jamie_Zapolskim

>>75586575
>the first Jaro vs Tusk conflict
makes you think

>>75586457
Just look at ths thread
Also, it wouldn't change my point either way

>>75586634
Gib youth back

poles are too pure for this world

>>75586681
Youth?

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>>75583969

>>75586712
Youth.

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Stop portraying us as dindunuffins you cunts the only reason why our conquests were small is because we were surrounded by enemies so it wasn't really possible to go much in one direction. Kinda like in HOMM 3 when your first heroes can't really fuck off to the edge of the map yet .

>>75585022
>We conquered Pomeranians
You can't conquer yourself, dummy.

>>75583969
They weren't nice to orthodox population and tried to conquer us.

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>>75587016
Same king.

>>75583969
Polish death camps

>>75585280
Still, peasants in Poland had much better life than peasants in any other part of Europe at that time.

>>75587108
>they weren't nice to the orthodox population
They were treated like god damn kittens compared to what would have happened to them anywhere else in Catholic/Protestant Europe.

>>75587016
>HOMM 3 analogy

Ayyyy

>>75586687
true

>>75586267
Imagine how the world would look like today if Polish-Lithuanian-Swedish-Muscovite Union actually became a real thing.

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>>75587095
Literally retarded.
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boles%C5%82aw_III_Krzywousty
even Gal Anonim mentions Poles and Pomeranians as separate nations in his chronicle

also explain how the fuck can you raid yourself then genius
>inb4 m-muh german propaganda!
>with polish sources
>with songs explictly about the subject

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3ZUvURpwEU

>>75587401
United Slavs of Europa
Short - U.S.E?

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>>75583969
desu we would be fucking Paladin of europe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmWPHOggw6A

>>75587738
This should be our anthem instead of that fucking village song we have now.

>>75587231
Ukies loved it so much they ran to Moscow tsar for help.

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>>75587979

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>>75587422
>even Gal Anonim mentions Poles and Pomeranians as separate nations in his chronicle
>middle ages
>nations
Are you actually retarded?

Pomeranians were as separate as any other tribe that constituted the Polish ethnos. The main reason for many wars between them and the rest of Poland was that they were the ones to oppose accepting christianity the longest.

Also, when you are referring to a source, quote it. I don't remember Gall Anonim saying anything like that.

>>75587979
Yes, and they regretted it very quickly.

>>75588080
the children was born before russia tho

it just doesn't work

>>75588229
Are you fucking retarded you think we lived in tribes in 12th century? Also you could actually read you inbred idiot
http://www.zswsucha.iap.pl/STREFA_N/WiLeHi/lektury/kronika/0081.htm
>explictly mentions Czechs and Hungarians
>HURR NO NATIONS! ONLY TRIBES UNTIL THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION

>>75588360
Ah yeah, I heard that theory.
Let me remind you something
I remember the myth about Lech, Czech and Rus, not Lech, Czech, and Ukie

>>75588406
Different anon, nationality was mostly for nobility.
Peasants were still in tribal mentality

>>75588484
Rus = Uki

dumbo

>>75588229

http://www.zswsucha.iap.pl/STREFA_N/WiLeHi/lektury/kronika/0067.htm
also here he explictly mentions Poles

>>75588532
>That's what they told you on /his/?

>>75588542
Rusuki?

There is one problem. Ukrainians cannot be your father, because they were our son

>>75587831
you're goddamn right

>>75588579
Russia != Rus != Uki

it was formed after and by different retards

>>75588626
Then it means that you and ukrainians have the same ancestors.

>>75588658
thats semi-correct

its all in "maybe" cathegory tho, no proofs

but we sure weren't formed by siberian tribes like some "people" like to think

>>75588740
Given how vast your lands are....
You could be very well from space.

I myself have different "ethnicies", though.
Mostly Tatar genes.

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>>75588406
>>75588574
t. K*shub

There are older Rus sources listing Polans, Pomeranians as well as other tribes as part of the same Lechitic ethnos.
Pomeranians became separate "nation" only when they became germanized.

>Are you fucking retarded you think we lived in tribes in 12th century?
Nations are a 19th century invention.

>>75589096
It's also worth noting that the official language was Latin, which was also the language that Gall Anonim used. "Polish" language was mostly peasants language, and it differed from village to village. Depending on the location, it might have some "russian" words, "czech", "german".

As a matter of fact, Czech / Polish language was the same until 12th century, after which we started to diverge.

Ironically, Polish language wasn't really unified until Commies came, which is when they deleted most of the local accents and dialects.

>>75589549
actually, it might be even 13th century

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Have they ever actually done anything wrong? It doesn't seem like they've ever violently conquered anything, committed any genocides, or really done any harm to anybody that wasn't in self-defence. All of their historical woes seem to have arisen from being too nice to vanquished enemies and then eventually getting buttf**ked by it in the future.

If Asia's history was a book or movie, they would be the good guy protagonist. Au revoir, Ashur!

>>75589096
>natios didn't exist
so you think there were no countries and no borders? What an idiot.
>older Rus sources
exactly fucking idiot
OLDER sources when we were still in tribal phase which ended with Mieszko unifying all the tribes.

>>75583969
>Have they ever actually done anything wrong?
Yes we didn't genocide kraut and ruskie subhumans when we had the chance.,

>>75590105
thats sad

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>>75588229
>>75589096
>>75589597
it doesn't fucking matter lmao as we're all Aryans. M458 Aryans, the father of all Slavshits.

>>75590057
Kingdoms = / = Countries

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>>75590057
>muh Mieszko
Yet somehow Teutons mention much older dynasties

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>>75590301

>>75584148
>Well, in their defense, they are not a developed nation unlike other nations that got rich during the 19th century exploiting the riches of far continents
>>>/leftypol/
>>>/out/

>>75590233
Jesus... man, why does it matter, we can be called fucking blue, pink or green, we are still the most pure nation arround

>>75590249
Are you an idiot?
>>75590301
What is your point you literal retard?
>hurr we were tribal once that means we were tribal right until 19th century when we didn't exist anyway because we were patritioned XD
you repeat that retarded pseudohistorical ''dude no nations lmao'' myth I bet you also believe Egyptians were niggers.

>>75590301
>dynasties
that's not a different dynasty you idiot those are his ancestors

>>75591898
>>75591945
(you)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popielids

>>75590057
>so you think there were no countries and no borders?
Learn the difference between country and nation, dude. Right now you're embarrassing yourself.

>>75590233
>>75590301
>>75590342
Oho, haplokang already arrived

we wuz wends and whatever

>but poland youre poor

wends

i am now here what i miss?

>>75592224
I already gave you sources where the term ''Poles'' was used but you decided to resort to typical eastern ''pole'' tactic
>hehe I will ignore everything and call him names instead XD
you're the kind of guy who would stubbornly claim sky is green right in front of a NASA worker

>>75587831
we wuz romans n sheeeeeeeeeeeeeit

>>75587401
if not for difference in religions Poland and Russia would become one thing a long ago

>>75583969
We literally dindu nuffin.

>>75583969
Contrary to movies in real world good guys got fucking annihilated, their home desolated and later when they rise from ashes bad guys laugh their ass of how poor good guy is. tl:tr beeing good guy totaly blows. Its better to be deadly one so remember america. Kill them all.

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>>75583969
>they would be the good guy protagonist
More like that one clumsy guy that dies first in a horror movie

Jews hate Poland for what they did and how jews were treated generally in Poland.

>source: israeli friend whose parents were from bolan

>>75600884
>muh wwII
600 years of living in Poland and those whinny bitches only remember us for this. No wonder they were expelled form every country in Europe at some time. Maybe if they fought then as hard as they whine now things would have been different.

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>>75590301
>Ziemovitus
>Piastus
>Popielus
>Cracus
>Lechus
aw shieeeeeet
all of the legends right there

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>>75600394
>posting edited version
why?

could it ever have been possible for Poles, Czechs and Slovaks to be the same nation?

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>>75584277
>They actually had imperialist
>but were too incompetent to carry them out successfully
>mfw I look at the flag

The eternal butthurt is gonna be eternal XD

>>75602248
No you idiot.

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>>75592278
>>75592224
>>75601379
>>75604702
Easy there honey.

>>75583969
Once we invaded Russia for shits and giggles. They hate us ever since, haha

>>75607576
>we

ale zakarbuj sobie w pustym łbie że twoja post-sowiecka republika to za chuj nie ma nic wspólnego z niczym sprzed 1918, a z drugiej RP skłonność do złodziejstwa i gównosejmów najwyżej

>>75583969
Christ of nations