What does make a city look European?
Old town center and "city houses" located around the center? Narrow streets build without cars in mind? Castles? City walls?
I mean some of the Argie or Leaf cities can look a bit European in their centers(although you can tell it's not Europe).
This is a non general thread, pls support with your posts.
>>75489550
>Narrow streets build without cars in mind?
This plus prevalence of wall to wall buildings. Plus pre-modern architectural styles common to Europe if we're comparing not just with the New World but also Old World cities from different cultural circles.
Do we consider Poland European now? I consider them barbarian mongol halfbreeds like the russians desu
>>75489550
>What does make a city look European?
A dense old town and newer areas built using 19th century city planning with street cars and pedestrians in mind.
>>75489686
Buenos Aires center looks pretty much like Europe but it does have this non-euro feel.
>>75489766
>Al Andalus
>>75489837
>19th century city planning
Hmm I think quite a lot of the centers is pre XIX century planning.Old town squares and markets are often still in their medieval shape.
>>75489972
>Old town squares and markets are often still in their medieval shape.
The old town is often surrounded by grid-like districts. Here's Prague.
This is Buenos Aires, god gave it to me
>>75489550
No skycrapers
commie blocks, brutalist monstruosities and ugly babyboomers' houses mixed with old historical buildings
Those signs
>>75490123
Well Prague is a good example and a big city so it has a bit more going on. On the other hand Quebec has that as well but it dosn't look 100% European. I guess it's a matter of a bit of chaos in the looks and different style of building ornaments.
>>75490288
Ye, Europe is a bit chaotic, there were wars, and stuff wasn't build in the last II to III centuries but throughout, let's say, 800 or 1000 years.
Also I'd add specific looking parks, all the new world cities I've been to had a different type of parks.
>>75490310
>a bit of chaos
The old town does add the chaos, but newer districts that were amalgamated towns are more orderly. Here's Jezyce that was a separate town and later amalgamated into Poznan. It already looks less chaotic than the old town.
Sometimes (like in Paris or pre-WW2 Warsaw), the courtyards were filled in with more buildings and structures. This is also adds to the chaos.
>>75490392
Here's the infill chaos I'm talking about (Vienna). Prague tends to have greenspace inside those rectangles.
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>>75490412
Does Prague or Vienna have their medieval market square plan changed? A lot of cities rebuild their markets in the XVIII or XIX century.
>>75490534
I don't know but take a look at Prague's old town. It doesn't look like a 19th century city plan.
>>75490572
I like the unchanged or nearly unchanged ones. Not a lot of them though.
If your town has any building taller than the bell tower, you might as well live in some Mac Mansion in an American suburb
>>75490660
*not a lot of them is left
>>75490675
I agree. Italy knows it's stuff.
Padova, bologna, rome or Milan my Italian friend?
>>75489550
>General height common for most buildings
>No grid urban planning
>coherent facade design for the entire building with advanncements, ornaments and large vertical windows
>Basement windows
>Incorporation of rooftop with facade
>Parking spots in the cour, meaning large gate
Something like that
>>75490752
The one that isn't a commie shithole and/or filled with niggers
>>75490776
>>Basement windows
>>Incorporation of rooftop with facade
I forgot about those. I mean it's so obvious now that I think about it but you never actually see those things.
I'll add one more thing:
- gates for horses/carriages between the "town houses" leading to the inner courtyard.
>>75489550
bike paths
>>75490776
>>No grid urban planning
But that's incorrect. Here's Vienna.
>>75490960
that's because the whole thing was basically rebuilt during the latter half of the 19th century
Vienna's downtown is the exception, not the rule
>>75490960
>Ottakring
That's a rather recent area of the city which was built following the urban planning principles of the belle epoque, the old part of Vienna is just like any other city
>>75491033
>Vienna's downtown is the exception, not the rule
You're incorrect. European cities experienced a population boom in the 19th century because of industrial revolution.
>>75490960
Buda castle hill has old and chaotic planing.
>>75491059
>old part of Vienna
Old towns are smaller than the 19th century additions. Here's pre-WW2 warsaw.
>>75489550
certain style of columns and buildings i suppose.
>>75491090
Yeah, the old medieval towns are small and chaotic.
>>75490927
why does that bike road leads straight to the bus stop?
You can easily tell what was built in the 19th century vs. what was built earlier in pic related.
>>75491119
I just wanted to make a argument that all old districts around market squares are rather chaotic and only some of the cities got them rebuild.
Both can look european, so I guess it's not a factor that decides about the "euro" looks. Not that you made an argument about any of them, just contributing.
>>75491076
I was talking about the historic downtown, not the new additions built to soak up the masses immigrating to the city
>>75491262
But it's not an "exception" in any way. Paris was knocked down and rebuilt by Haussmann too though not on a grid but some kind of a star pattern.
>>75491215
Because the bike roads were done later on, they just added them and some things were in the way.
Another question than.
EU or US cities?
Poland thread?
>>75491697
US of course. all the old e*ropean cities look outdated and boring
>>75492571
>city made for people
>boring
>city made for cars
>great
>>75491697
Eu. City centers in america are made for work with suburbs filled with small housing and malls. They're made for car transport and just don't give me the right feel.
>>75492639
>people
e*roshits are not human beings though
>>75492938
Wow that is so rude.
Peter the >great would execute you for this.
>>75492984
Peter the Cuck you mean?
fuck him
>>75493082
Let me guess, you're tatar or some kavkaz dweller.
E A S T E R N
P O L A N D
??
>>75491697
America ist wunderbar.
>>75491102
Here's whole of Warsaw...
>>75497566
In comparison with today...
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>>75492984
Killing Europeans was his favourite pastime tho
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>>75489550
Prague is a fair benchmark. Poland very much so too.
Budapest qualifies.
Nothing in Britain.
>>75498354
Don't know.
>>75498962
Well maybe... when you suck me off maybe.
My home Stockholm is pretty old European classic.
Especially old town, built in the 11th century and perfectly preserved
I really prefer older cities over new ones. Less stress and shit.
>>75489550
>What does make a city look European?
If it's inhabited by whores and faggots, it's European.
Intimate cobbled streetscapes, quaint pre-1900s rowhouses punctuated by beautiful old churches and squares/plazas.
Imo the most European looking cities outside of Europe are Buenos Aires, Quebec City, Algiers, Montreal, Melbourne, Boston, and Montevideo.
There are also lots of lesser known colonial towns around the world that look very European, mostly in ex-colonies.
>>75491224
Barca is a fun city
>>75489853
Bullshit. It looks nothing like europe.
t. I live there.
>>75499874
It kinda does look like Paris tho.
>>75499914
You've clearly never been to neither of those places.
It doesn't.
It looks like your typical spic city with a couple of buildings trying hard to look academicist...and failing.
>>75500088
it's the amerindian autist
>>75491697
If you like large spaces, and depending on car for everyday commuting, US
If you like walking and lots of public spaces, EU
>>75500088
>It looks like your typical spic city with a couple of buildings trying hard to look academicist...and failing.
I want this line in a travel brochure.
>>75500663
Top kek.
>>75500541
If you like getting raped by Muslims then come to Sweden.
>>75500468
I'm not that one Amerindian, but yes I'm Amerindian and the overwhelming majority of Argentina is Amerindian.
I'm just telling you what I see, I live here and Buenos Aires looks just like the way I described earlier.
But nah, I live and grew up here, I must be wrong, right? Internet memes are sure more reliable.
>>75507612
Is there a european-like city in argentina than?
>>75507843
No, why would there be? I mean, it's a complete different culture with different people in a different geographical context. Would you expect to see Punjab-like cities in Belarus?
>>75508258
I would if Belarus were a Punjabi colony. Still, I guess that Argentina was too undeveloped at the time of its independence to have any European-style town already
>>75508364
It has some colonial era buildings and housings like the rest of latin America, no big deal.
But the topic at hand was 'argentinian cities looking european' which is completely ridiculous, but it's okay, we are here to learn true facts about other countries so no problem with being mistaken like OP.
Is this good enough?
>>75509993
Maybe xxi century european.
>>75489766
Lol muzzie... Poles are definitely more white than you browns. >>75510511
>>75510511
thats right