>Your country >Defence or Defense?

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map not related, couldnt find a map for Defence/defense in european langauges

>>75450696
With a c of course. I'm not a yank

>>75450696
Müdafa

>>75450756
in spain its Defensa so im naturally steered towards Defense
defence sounds like The Fence

I like how on those maps you quite often can see PLC borders.

I mean it's been 222 years since PLC fell and you can still see it's influence.

>>75450696
With an S, Försvar

>>75450816
i usually write defence because fence is a word while fense isnt.

>>75450696
that map is retarded, it's oră not oară

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>>75450696
>Your country
Croatia
>Defence or Defense?
obrana

>>75450715
Damn, Lithuanian and Latvian are old.

>>75450715
Slavic is my mother tongue and I think romanian word (razbiti) sounds better than voina

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>>75450818
whats PLC, i have never seen that acronym
>>75450847
does defense come from the same root that fence

>>75450696
Puolustus

>>75450696
Fronce
Défense

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holy shit
i just realized "fence" in Galician (probably portuguese too) is "Fender" wich means "to hit"
>the verb for "Defend" in spanish and galician is Defender (de-fender)

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>>75450911
big polish blob in east europe

PLC stands for Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth

>>75450911
Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Good cuntree 2bh, too bad Ukrops, Swedes and Russians had to kill it in the most pathetic way possible all at once. I liked their hussars

>>75450911
I think "fence" comes from "defence" so yeah they do.

>>75450962
So I guess a fence is just a defence against outsiders without the de bit. Maybe back in the day word fence was used for proper defensive barriers instead of the wimpy little things we have these days.

>>75450984
absolutely
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/defendo#Latin
its amazing how close we are to latin sometimes, some words could be understood almost perfectly 1800 years back in time

>>75450962
fendre here means to split wood with an axe

>>75450903
vojna does sound strange to me too

>>75450696
Deutschland
Verteidigung

>>75451028
this resolution is awful, i cant read the small text in the legend. please use the "Big image resolution" search tool in google next time

>>75450696
Hey Anonymous,

I would ordinary spell it 'Defence' but I must admit the spelling 'Defense' is a lot more sensible. In future correspondence I will be happy to accept either spelling!

Regards,
Anonymous

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>>75450696
>>75450818
>>75451065
found the bigger one

>>75450818
>PLC
?

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>polish people call the 'hour' a 'year'

>>75451125
see >>75450963
>>75451139
I swear you South "Slavs" are even more retarded than East Slavshits.

Year - Rok
Hour - Godzina
Time - Czas

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>>75451176
Year - godina
Hour - chas
Time - vreme

>>75451222
Like I said, autism.

But that's what you get when you let orthodox idiots write you alphabet.

>>75451222
Vreme is weather here.

>>75451176
čas can mean "moment" as well
e.g
>sad je pravi čas
"now is the right moment"

>>75451135
>anya
>not related with anne(originally ana)
Just come out of your closet already, Macar-chan

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>>75451248
We use it for both time and weather.
>>75451232
Don't get the alphabets involved, it's objectively true that your language looks like shit because of the zhwhzavz crap.

>>75450696
you can't spell defence without fence so defence it is

>>75450696
>>Defence or Defense?
Defense as in defensywa.

>>75451309
but you can
>defense

>>75450962
and in english to fend off means keeping something away.
>>75451001
i think fence was just a noun for something that fends ie wards off things

>>75450696
defensivă or apărare

>>75450962
you're not wrong
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/defendo#Latin

>>75450696
Map is wrong.
We don't use čas isn't used. It's either sat or ura.

>>75450962
there are some words in english and spanish that made me think

window (wind)
ventana (viento)

breakfast (break the fast)
desayunar (romper el ayuno)

How do you say strawberries?

We say Luleshtrydhe(Crushed flowers)

>>75452658
Truskawki

>>75450715

I think "guda" is more common in basque for war.

>>75452658
Jordbær (earth berries)

>>75452658
jagode
gode means feels good
and the turks came and ate them and said YALLAH (exclemation) and the serbs said YA! gode (wow! they taste good!)
so jagode (or jagohde)

>>75450696
Defiance.

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>>75452715
Pretty sure you had a word for them before turks came

>>75450696
Defense

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>>75450696
Norway
>Defence or Defense?
Forsvar

>>75451176
south slavs are the first slavs, they are the one that gave you language and your moonrunes.

>>75450696
why are basques such special snowflakes?

>Defence or Defense?
OooOO Moya oborona

>>75452379
really gets the nogging yogging
wait, let me get the etimologic dictionary
>ayuno: from latin "ieiunum" (empty)
>desayunar = stopping the emptiness in your belly
>fast: from germanic "Fast" (firmly fixed, secured) wich comes from PIE "past" (firm, solid)

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>>75452715
>>75452779
lel, jagoda is pic rel here

>>75450782
Benim zencim

>>75452658
mansikka, etymology is supppsedly related to manner (continent) + -kka diminutive

>>75452658
fraise

>>75452379
>viento
>latin ventus, from proto-italic wentos, from PIE "wents"
>window
>middle english windowe, from old norse vindauga (vindr + auga: wind-eye, wind-hole)

>>75452658
Fresas, comes from french
big ones are Fresones

>>75451125
>polish
>lithuanian
>commonwealth

>>75453259
that's borovnica in south slavic

>>75450696
>Slovenia
>obramba

>oară
It's oră

>>75452658
Căpșuni

ITT:
retards realise languages from the same family have similarities to them

>>75450715
We say «strid» too

ITT: autist gets triggered that normal people are looking up cool language trivia and discussing it online

>>75452658
eper

Tahan, with capital T fool

>>75450911

In Bulgarian there is the expression "нa клaдa" [na klada] when you refer to sb beign burnt to the stake

>>75455934
Butthurt that your only relation is fucking arabic???

>>75451222
>>75451297
>We use it for both time and weather.
вpeмe vreme is also used in Bulg for grammatical tenses

>>75456241
Butthurt that your only neighbours are fucking arabs???

israelis are so salty even when unprovoked
its like a eastern version of our spaniard scum

>>75456402
hmmm israel are you drunk?

>>75456572
neighbour has more than one definition.

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>>75451135
>äiti
>from an ancient Germanic language. Related to the Gothic ????? (aiþei).
WE

>>75456531
go provoke your boyfriend's anus, you fucking Spaniard homo

>>75456701
My bad, I thought we were in roleplaying mode

>>75450696
>Yuogoshits use the Turk/Arab word for time

Lmao. Talk about being cucked. Remove kebab my ass.

>>75456798
It's ok

>>75456795
do you want to be my boyfriend

>>75450696
>muslim balkans are the only who use european word for hour
makes you think...

Flag
Tavdatsva

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>>75459733
What's retarded with us, is that we use "bakar" for "copper", but when we say it adjectivally, we use "mjeden", the Slavic word

>>75460163
We never use meden, but that is a surname, so we obviously did before we borrowed baker from you.

>>75460163
yeah such strange things exist in a lot of languages. like in finnish the uralic word vaski is still used but only for the word "brass Instruments" like trumpets etc

>>75450715
I think πόλεμος is Indo-European, not pre-Greek. I'll check it later.

>>75450696
>>Defence or Defense?
amyna

>>75452658
fraula
older pronounciation was fragula
from Latin fragula
diminutive of fragum (strawberry)
From Proto-Indo-European *dʰrHǵ-o- (compare Albanian dredhëz and Sanskrit द्राक्षा (drākṣā)) or *sróh2gs ‘grape’ (compare Greek ρώγα (róga), Albanian rrush).

>>75450696
>>Defence or Defense?

Obrona

>>75452866
>your moonrunes

???

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>>75450696
Defence of course, Canadians can actually spell

>>75452658
Jordgubbar

>>75452658
aardbeien/freezn

>>75459733
бaкъp bakar is also used in BG but not very often and almost always in the context of copper items stolen by gypsies

>>75451135
>maman
>mah man

>>75450911
this map is inaccurate, Moгилы means graves wheres Клaдбищe means graveyard, belarus and russia use the same two words, but for some reason the map creator split those two words up

>>75450911
>does defense come from the same root that fence
no
>From French défense, itself from Latin dēfensa (“protection”).

>reading C as S
ritarded

>>75452658
цIaзaм (Ca'azam)

>>75469883
>reading ë as y

Polant, Polant pls

>>75452875
Their language isn't indoeuropean.

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>>75450696
Defence. This is the version I was taught.

>>75450715
Strange how the latin bellum totally disappeared.

>>75473139
>imperator
No it's not, it's car in Slovenian. Imperator is not a word.

>>75473474
it is the adjective, bellicose, same as many neolatin words actually (dimanche, dominical...)
>>75472594
more meaning can be derived from human than from mann

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>>75473139
Notes about that map:
Many languages in central and Eastern Europe have words, stemming from both "Caesar" and "imperator". In Russian, the word <car'> only refers to certain rulers, i.e the Russian, Bulgarian, etc tsars.

In Estonian, the word "imperaator" exists, but is very rare.

>>75473802
It's cesar, except when referring to the emperors of Russia and to Štefan Dušan of Serbia.

>>75473139
>your name will never be used as the highest possible political title in more than half of europe
I didn't ask for this feel

>>75450903
>Slavic is mother tongue

what, do you speak proto slavic or?

>>75473961
how come its word in EE but not in Latin Europe, what the fuck. We had nothing to do with Roman Empire even

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>>75473930
For people who find a hard time seeing the connection between "four" and kʷetwóres:

kʷ -> p is a common sound change. Look to Welsh.
Latin's relatives, Oscian and Umbrian also underwent this change.

p -> f is a soundchange that happened in Germanic languages. Compare Latin "pater" to English "father".


The Proto-Germanic form is reconstructed as *fedwōr. Compare this to Welsh "pedwar". See the resemblance?

Gothic had "fidwōr" also.

>>75474117
Saying name of bear was forbidden so now we have this honey-eater word and original word for bear was lost lol

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>>75474117
That first change is actually what seperates the Celtic languages.
The so called "p-celtic" languages include Welsh, Cornish and Breton.

The so called "q-celtic" languages include Irish, Scottish Gaelic, and Manx. (they underwent kʷ -> k, later)

E.g the word for "who": [in Latin: quis (qu = kʷ)]

Welsh: pwy
Breton: piv
Irish: cé
Scottish Gaelic: cò

>>75474359
I know we're small and all, but whereas the common folk may refer to Jews as žid, doing so in writing is the equivalent of kike in English.

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>>75474188
The word used in the Romance languages and Greek is the original one, since there, bears are much more rare, and there was no taboo.

Lithuanian apparently has the word "irštva" stemming from this root, meaning "bear's den"

>>75474475
What's the polite term?

>>75452658
jahoda

doesn't mean anything in Czech but rhymes with lahoda (delight)

>>75474574
Jud.

>>75474584
Apparently it originally just meant "berry". "jagoda" in Russian f.e means exactly that.
The meaning of "strawberry" is also seen in the South Slavic languages, and Slovakian.

>>75474746
It's actually still the generic term for berry, besides being the term for strawberry, at least in my lang (and in BSH as well, I'd imagine).

>>75474584
Wait strawberry is not jahoda in Czech?

>>75474958
No, he meant that the meaning of the word can't be explained from its components unlike in Germanic languages. This is very common in Slavic languages, words with roots whose meanings have changed so much as to be unrecognisable to modern speakers.

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>>75474746
>>75474859
interesting
>>75475097
yes, this is so mind boggling sometimes

>>75450696
"Defesa", pronounced as a 'z', though.

Defense in English looks best to me.

>>75451101
WE

>>75452658
Morango. Weird there's so much variation for this.

>>75474475
wtf, Žid is a totally legit in Czech
Žiďák would be a problem though