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Why haven't these countries been annexed by Russia yet? What makes them different from Russia? What stops Russia from invading them?
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>>75337424
>Why haven't these countries been annexed by Russia yet?
Because unlike you Russia respects international law.
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>>75337473
>unlike you
What did you mean by this?
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>>75337537
hmmm maybe that you annexed by the face a whole continent and genocided its population
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>>75337424
Russia is afraid of NATO
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>>75337575
That was before any international treaties or conventions were put into place. Also, strictly speaking, it were the Brits, not us.
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>>75337588
Do you think there is a chance of Finland ever joining NATO?
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>>75337651
Only after everyone else have been invaded by Russia, which will happen eventually. Belarus, Moldova and Azerbaijan are next.
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>>75337424
Because they are vermins who only whine and drain money. Now they drain EU money.
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>>75339276
ur just jelly bro
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>>75339276
ur mum drains my dick
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Their flags are so ugly
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>>75340348
>muslim country
>has a cross on its flag
i never understood this meme
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desu estonia has an ok tier flag
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>>75337424
NATO
NATO membership
NATO
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>>75337473
>Russia respects international law
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>>75337473
Explain Crimea then retard.
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>>75342905
Crimeans decided to leave ukraine and voted for it. Then they voted to join russia and russia accepted them.
Kosovo did the same and you americans recognised it and supported them. So don't be hypocrites.
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>>75340433
>61.8% latvian
lol

>>75343082
>thinking anyone care about a gr**ks opinion
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>>75342905
There was referendum in Crimea and most of crimeans voted yes.
Which isn't surprising because a lot of crimeans worked for Russian fleet stationed there and everyone wanted better wage/pension/social services
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>>75343228
>referendum
International observers weren't allowed to observe it so the results are worth less than toilet paper.
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>why haven't these countries been annexed by Russia

Russians are eternally afraid of starting another Afghanistan tier partisan war. They can't push the same shit as in Ukraine bc Baltics are so much better to live in than Russia
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>>75343429
Tbqh it's pretty sweet to live in Estonia. Every time some cunt brings up some fucked up law or social norm I'm so glad it's not a thing here.

Estonia is great
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>>75343377
>International observers weren't allowed to observe it
They were INVITED to observe it but REFUSED to come because western shitnations considered referendum illegitimate before it even started
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>>75343808
Thats why we do not associate with Scandies anymore. Beings socialist is cancer
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>>75343017
>Kosovo did the same and you americans recognised it and supported them. So don't be hypocrites.
After a genocide treat by the Serbs
They deserved to be genocided тбх
Did the Ukrainian government wanted to genocide the Russians in Crimea before the Referendum ?
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>>75344420
yes, according to rt
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>>75344420
How's 150$ wage isn't genocide?
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>>75337424
>Why haven't these countries been annexed by Russia yet?
Because they are useless. Now Germany pays them gibs and that's great.

>What makes them different from Russia?
Everything really. Different culture, ethnicity, languages, etc.

>What stops Russia from invading them?
Why would Russia invade them?
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>>75344607
i don't, really. there are many teachers and library employees in small russian towns who earn almost this much (about 180-200$ actually). truly a genocide.
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>>75344607
Are Russian salaries high for Ukrainian standards ?
Wow , it must be truly a hellhole
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>>75344961
>Are Russian salaries high for Ukrainian standards ?
if we exclude moscow, saint-petersburg and nenets autonomous okrug (oil rich region) our salaries will be almost the same.
most of russia is basically ukraine tier poor.
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>>75345090
Surprised that the Tyumen oblast isn't in that group
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>>75345090
>Estonian minimum wage is well above Russian average wage

This really activates my tangerines
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>>75343610
Yeah, because it was illegitimate. Surely you're not so stupid, that you don't understand that by going there they would've lent it legitimacy?

It's very convenient for Russia as they can claim that they were invited and act surprised when they didn't show. But the truth is that Russia knew perfectly well, even before their actions in Crimea, why and that they wouldn't show. It's just part of the Russian narrative.

This is all just geopolitics. The port in Sevastopol is of great importance to Russia both economically and militarily. Russia cannot afford having it fall into the hands of a potential adversary (i.e. NATO, EU, USA). When Ukraine attempted to align itself more with the west it forced Russia's hand, and this began the, depending on who you ask, occupation or liberation of Crimea. Whether you choose to call it liberation or occupation is of no matter whatsoever.
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>>75345090
if we exclude Kiev Odesa etc (richest ukrainian cities) ukrainian salaries will be 2 times less
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>>75345184
>RUSSIA LIES HURR DUR
fuck off Sven
Most of Crimeans voted yes
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>>75337424
>Why haven't these countries been annexed by Russia yet?
NATO
>What makes them different from Russia?
Not being aggressive drunks
>What stops Russia from invading them?
NATO
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>>75345266
>Most of Crimeans voted yes
There's no way to verify that so comment is nothing but emotional drivel.
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>>75345331
Logical way.
Big number of Crimeans worked for Russian Navy
Most of them have/had relatives in Russia.
Economy/HDI etc. in Russia is a lot better than in Ukraine
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>>75345406
>Russia is a lot better than in Ukraine
I really don't care. I'm only interested in the motives of the involved parties.
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>>75345541
more money to steal
now fuck off
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>>75344420
>Did the Ukrainian government wanted to genocide the Russians in Crimea before the Referendum ?
Yep, they banned Russian language and the Right Sector said they were going to launch an assault to Crimean cities. "Trains of friendship" as they called them.
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>>75345685
They didn't have the capabilities to do it

How comes a failed Ukrainian post-maidan state with a huge crisis would try to "launch an assault" to Crimea?
Doesn't makes sense
What happened to crimea during the other anti Russian government after the orange revolution? They didn't genocide anyone
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>>75345541
To be fair, he's right about most Crimeans being prorussian, but I'd attribute it to post soviet nostalgia, and not objective facts. The thing is, the 90s were shit everywhere, but the sentiment in Crimea was that Ukraine turned the region into shit and they're to blame.
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>>75345819
The Right Sector weren't Ukrainian official military, it was fully trained nationalist movement which wasn't under control of Ukrainian government and did a lot of shit during Maidan.
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>>75345819
If someone says "stab every Argentinian with a knife" would you argue about their capabilities or just stay the fuck away from them?
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>>75345942
I'd attribute to the fact that Crimea always belonged to the Russians ( after the conquest of the kanate) till Kruschev gave it to the Soviet Ukraine due administrative issues
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>>75337424
>Why haven't these countries been annexed by Russia yet?

well nato protects us
>What makes them different from Russia?

cultures, traditions ,languages , haplogroups
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>>75346105
I would stop watching Argentinian government biased propaganda
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>>75346229
So you claim nobody was screaming "stab every Russian with a knife" during and after Maidan?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8YqjAcaLYc
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>>75346229
>Argentinian government biased propaganda
You mean youtube?
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Because not every single country in the world has to be turned into a Slavic shithole, filled with somber people without a future. And I agree, I don't want an Americanized society either, but then again, you don't have to choose between a red and a blue stone.

I just can't wait until the day someone nukes this boring and soulless shithole.
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>>75346099
>did a lot of shit during Maidan.

They did nothing wrong actually.
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>>75346303
>Americanized society

It's way better then any Slav society. Because Slav society is synonym of stagnation and retardation.
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>>75346290
>let´s give freedom to any territory that threats on or people even though they are a minority!

again, as I say here
>>75346153
I support your claims in Crimea but I don´t agree that it was a hue risk of genocide like in Kosovo
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>>75346290
It was a metaphor. Don't be stupid. They didn't killed any Russians during Maidan, even more - there were a lot of Russians who came in Kiev to support Maidan.
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>>75346540
>even though they are a minority!
Who is a minority? Moskal hangers in Ivano-Frankivsk or russians in Simferopol?
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>>75346540
>a minority
speaking for the ones that wanted to genocide the russians
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>>75346588
*to Kiev
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>>75346490
russians aren't slavs 2bh
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>>75346645
>Ivano-Frankivsk

It's funny, but Ivano-Frankivsk is safer for Russians or Russian speaking people than any part of Ukraine, let alone Eastern Ukraine.
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>>75346664
Russians are
Rossiyanes aren't
fucking retard
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>>75346490
>>75346827
> Slav society is synonym of stagnation and retardation.
And thanks to who? Every bad stereotype about Slavs comes either from Russians or Balkaniggers.
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>>75346650
Is this spam? Is this what?
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What happens here in Latveria?
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>>75346866
Said a toilet-cleaning Pole. Let's ask British people about Poles, surely we will hear only good things.
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>>75346968
>Said a toilet-cleaning Pole
That arguments only works if your country is better than Poland. It isn't, it's an african shithole filled with albino niggers.
> Let's ask British people about Poles, surely we will hear only good things.
Communism and bydlo mentality was enforced by Russkieniggers.
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>>75346866
t. the plumber
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>>75346866
We improved image of slavs in the world
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>>75346866
Said pole. Fucking lol'd. Your country is a cancer full of racist cunts who don't care about your fellow humans.
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>>75347018
>That arguments only works if your country is better than Poland.
It is. As country Russia accomplished and did 1000x times more good than Pooland
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>>75347089
You actually disgraced it.
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>>75347089
>>75347092
>>75347029
>>75347123
(you) ruskieanimal.
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>>75347123
poland is 1000 times better than russia
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>>75347125
Ameriscum
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>>75347147
>abortions are bad

You again proved that you're simpleminded hick. Are all poles that way?
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>>75347345
>no u
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>>75347383
They are when you have a population crisis like Russia has
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>>75347147
>junkie bydlo dying from HIV is bad
>drunk bydlo doing abortions is bad
>drunk bydlo killing drunk bydlo is bad
??????????????????????
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There must be a term for this butthurt post soviets have.
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>>75347383
>Abortions are good
And then pol says that you are saviours of the crippling degeneracy in the west
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>>75345331

All previous polls have showed that Crimeans have never wanted to be part of Ukraine.
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>>75347518
There is no population crisis
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>>75347518
We don't have any population crisis. Google 'demographic transition'. Declining population is pretty normal thing for educated post-industrial society.
I myself aren't going to have any children, my siblings and friends have exactly the same opinion.
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>>75337424
>what's stopping them?
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>>75347611
Maybe if you are Muslim. Everyone on this site knows that the ethnic Russian population is doomed
>>75347634
That's the attitude that'll kill you. You and your family won't breed but the Muslims will.
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>>75347634
Why won't you have children?
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>>75347721
Why don't you Try to rise a kid in the far East Bob?
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>>75347838
People raised kids in much worse conditions.
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>>75337424
because during the USSR the worst of the worst russians were sent here, so they dont want them back, no matter how good the baltics would be for them
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>>75347721

Mexicans will take over the US. The demographic crisis is a worldwide phenomenon. As countires develop, their natural birth rate stalls and withers and it's happening faster and faster. Even in countries like Iran are experiencing this.
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>>75347589
>when one country on /int/ talks shit about another country, it's called banter
>when a post-soviet country on /int/ talks shit about Russia, it's called butthert
Hmmm...
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>>75347759
Why should I? I don't like children and I have other things to do other than raising kids lol.


>but the Muslims will.

I don't have anything against Muslims. They are nice people, at least where I live.
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>>75348050
Mexican numbers have decreased. Plus post election years are historically years where a lot of babies are born
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>>75348037
lol also this
We took all aryan estonians to Siberia and replaced them with bydlo scum
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>>75348153
Banter is a joke
Baltics are serious
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>>75348153
There is a difference in a widely accepted blaiming of Russia by a collective of poorer countries to the ordinary banter.

I rarely see Czech people and German people being this butthurt over Russia.
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>>75348158
They have a problem with you though. Their holy book tells them to conquer you and to make you submit to them
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>>75348216

Sons of immigrants adopt the same breeding rates as their new homeland. This is natural.
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They are proud Siberian people with Finnic and Baltic languages. If Russia attacks them, I attack Russia.
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>>75348373
Russia's Muslims are native though. While russian pregnancies end in abortion 90%of the time Muslims have 8 kids
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>>75348473
Oh no. France, Pakistan and now Russia.

Three muslim countries with nukes
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>>75348375
And?
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>>75348298
lol. You don't know our Muslims. I drink and smoke pot with my Muslim friends. They aren't fundamentalists.
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>lowest amount asylum seekers in 6 years
>non-western immigrant fertility rate below 2.1
>see more danish women with babies on the street
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>>75348659

are they rossiyanes ?
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>>75348808
what caused the dip and recovery
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>Half of Russia's major cities are being flooded with Tajiks and Asians from the former SSRs
>"B-but muh W-western d-degeneracy..."
Lmbo
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>>75347592
>All previous polls have showed that Crimeans have never wanted to be part of Ukraine.

So what? Why won't you let Basque Country and Catalonia be independent? I'm pretty sure that they'll vote to leave your country.
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>>75348968

I'm Catalonian.
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because as history thought us

russia is a big mean superpower
>untill it invades georgia
russia is the biggest military power in the world
>untill it fights chechens
russian economy is unbreakable force and minerals and oil and shit
>untill it annexes crimea

etc
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>>75348659

They are allowed to do that because they are conquering your nation. And also Chechens will lead the jihad as soon as putin dies
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>>75348991
I really hope you get independent.
And also that Galicia goes to Portugal.

Fuck those Castellano monkeys desu senpai lam chap.
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>>75348885
Not sure what happened in 1983 but 2007-2013 is probably the financial crisis. also there's been a few campaigns to get people to get more children since 2014 and it apparently works. I don't think we'll hit 2.1 again though
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>>75349064
>Almost reached Georgian capital in few days
>Chechnya is now part of russia, FSB kills remaining rebels
>Oil prices has something to do with Crimea
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>>75349070
You gotta be kidding me. I don't believe people can be that dense.
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>>75348275
>by a collective of poorer countries
>poorer
christ diaspora are stupid
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>>75349217
Well off you live that long you'll see im right. Honestly I hope I'm wrong
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>>75349113
yeah, I was curious about the big 70s-80s dip, not the small one
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>>75349196
you're weaker then you think
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>>75349284
I found it. Economic crisis and high unemployment rates in 30's and 80's just like in 2007. Overall it's been declining because people moved into the cities where there were no need for 4 children to help in the fields or anything
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>>75349535
that makes sense. and yes, the overall long-term and significant decline has similar causes everywhere I suppose

even Kosovo is below replacement these days
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>>75349229
>christ diaspora are stupid
It relates to what those countries relate themselves when they start the bragging of muh soviets made me poor.
Of course it is western Europe. They feel themselves like they could have been like western Europe.
In world wide comparison their countries are very nice.
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>>75347123
>>75347147

Why are we people against each other (Poles and Russians) - both of us are treated as shits in Western World , and not counting last 100 years we wasn't having that bad relations - in Poland everyone forgets that until we revolted russians gave us pretty comfy place to live (Kingdom of Poland - Congress Kingdom) and we both with Russians tried to retake our lost land
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>>75343324
why france so high? is it power plants?
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>>75337424
>Why haven't these countries been annexed by Russia
They have been multiple times.

We're of a different culture and we're not submissive peasants who can't live without an authoritarian strongman in charge.
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Calling the Kingdom of Poland aka the Congress Kingdom a comfy place to live is like to praise a prison for nice interior design
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>>75343381
>Afghanistan tier partisan war
Our guys gave them hell, but the resistance was wiped out by 1953, not sure about Estonia, but our terrain isn't that well suited for partisan warfare.
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>>75351974
Then read about it before November Uprising
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>>75352817
Actually - the November Uprising is the worst uprising that happend - it was made by some stupid Mason young moron (Red side of Polish Politics in that time) that got scared of Russians recruiting people (that would revolt against them anyway) to Russian Army

Also , the people that could make this succesful were killed by the other Poles because they didn't wanna help in this shitty uprising , also commanders that helped weren't beleiving in victory .
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>>75352983
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walerian_%C5%81ukasi%C5%84ski#Biography - Free mason

Polish generals killed by polish rebels :
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanis%C5%82aw_Potocki_(1782-1831)
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignacy_Blumer
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomasz_Jan_Siemi%C4%85tkowski
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanis%C5%82aw_Tr%C4%99bicki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Maurice_Hauke
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filip_Nereusz_Meciszewski
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B3zef_Nowicki
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>>75349784
t. most of country was rebuilt from the ground up by America for free
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>>75343381
>estunia higher than Italy and Spain
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