Tugas of /int/, how is the Colonial War seen in Portugal today?

>>75111463
People don't care or even remember at this point. It was basically our Vietnam, except we won, and people back home got a lot better treatment than the US.

The biggest difference is that the US soldiers are very weak and young, and they usually went to war unprepared, whereas ours had longer training and longer tours so that they got a lot more accustomed to it and the PTSD isn't nearly as bad, since they went in more mature to the thing.

We do have veterans with PTSD, but the healthcare is a lot better and they get better accompaniment.

It was a pointless war to keep an empire in an age of no more empires, desu, which is why we let them go in the end, despite securing control in all theatres except Guiné.

>>75114070
Do the young right wing defend this war? How good was Portugal admnistration on the colonies prior to the war?
You guys won, but, i doubt it would stay that way for much longer had you stayed there. The Africans were starting to get heavy armor from soviets.

>>75115271
>young right wing
kek

The biggest issue about the colonial war was the fact that the de-colonisation was badly handled as shit by the socialists/commies for the brief whiplash period we had them.

We had tons of old money people there that came back with nothing and were very badly received here due to propaganda calling them monsters for exploiting the natives. True or not, it led to a lot of non-rich people who were perfectly innocent to be shunned and mocked, and the job market crashed, both things leading to a mass exodus to France.

One of the things that shocks me the most is the fact that our colonial army consisted of more than half of native Angolans/Mozambicans, who fought bravely for their country/empire against the US/USSR influence and we just left them behind to get killed by their commie peers.

So yeah, the de-colonization happened so quickly after the 25th of April that the previous incident, the colonial war, got shadowed by it a bit.

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>>75111463
>Do the autistic kids sing praises to it like the anglo do with Rhodesia or people just don't care anymore?

does printing a colonial war pepe meme and gluing it over antifa propaganda count?

>>75115945
>4chan memes irl
>/pol/ memes irl

God fucking damnit. I leave university for 3 years and they all turn to shit.

>>75115832

>colonial army consisted of more than half of native Angolans/Mozambicans, who fought bravely for their country/empire against the US/USSR


i always found that interesting
was there a feeling of being part of luso/portuguese nation among the natives? I always thought luso-tropicalismo was considered a joke at the time.

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>>75116034
could be worse

>>75116153
>autismtugal

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>>75115945
>>75116034

>Epic Portuguese Memes

>>75116106
>was there a feeling of being part of luso/portuguese nation among the natives?
I'd imagine there wasn't too much, but I think a fair few of them were at least grateful towards for their only (if remote) chance of not being an African shithole like everywhere else.

From what I've gathered from blacks that actually grew up in Blafrica, there is no particular hate for the Portuguese as a people, and they seem to like us and find us interesting (speak the same language, have similar architecture and some cuisine influences, much like Brazil), but they do hate the Portuguese government and the Portuguese bosses as a whole.

I think most of them understand that the regime changed at some point and that it's not the same people in charge, for better or worse, so they don't hold a particular grudge against the people. But to be fair, I've only met blacks in University, and those tend to be fairly well off, in comparison.

Lusotropicalism wasn't really a meme. Every Portuguese state/crown institution and aristocrat/fat cat was as mean and dominating as Spain and England and France. Heck, Congo Free State only did to their slaves what we'd done in Angola since forever. I think the thesis is that the people (i.e. povo, não pessoas) was much nicer and humane towards the locals, and did not follow into the cruelty of the richer classes as much.

It makes some sense if you think that the Portuguese empire was based on trade, and being a poor country and even empire it meant that we had to be fairly nice to get a chance to get ahead of the Dutch and Spics.

>>75116733
>I think the thesis is that the people (i.e. povo, não pessoas) was much nicer and humane towards the locals, and did not follow into the cruelty of the richer classes as much.


Indeed, the tribes and races touched and conquered by the portuguese do have a more humble attitude than those touched by other empires. It does have a correlation with the fact that Portugal rose from the absolute bottom to the top, and always carried this melancholia and realism about their kind.
I do appreciate some new lusotropicalism movements like Nova Portugalidade.

>>75116106
They did it for money. Being a colonial solder pays a lot for blacks who can't get any other job asides much shitter paying ones.