Russian media laffin of US marines in Norway

yeah this totally sounds true and not like some Kremlin bullshit

wtf I think the American military can't afford jackets for their soldiers now

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American """"soldiers""""

>>75098519
>everyone in that picture is shorter than 185 cm


boggles your mind

>>75098678
average height in Norway is 178, so they are taller than us. WTF

>russian media

>lol look dumb americans did something funny again lol so dumb
>look, degenerative gayrope is dying out
>the russophobic russophobes say something about "russian hackers" and obviously it is not true at all and we did nuffin but if it was true wouldn't it be so cool of us, i mean theoretically of course
>ukraine is khhhhhhh lol lol i just can't, look at this
>cutie lynx was born in russian zoo
>the end
very informative, thanks, russian media, thats' all i wanted to know.

American soldiers seem like they don't know what they're doing. Like they all just joined the army to get that 'hero' status in their home country even though all they do is sitting in their military bases playing poker all day

>>75098848
Been at least 3 years since I went to Russia, is there any remote possibility the country is going to unfuck itself?

>>75099207
>Been at least 3 years since I went to Russia
And how was it?
>is there any remote possibility the country is going to unfuck itself?
Nope

>>75099058
Well they are here protecting a part of the anglo clay. Even Churchill knew that back in the days that Norway is anglo

>>75099309
Not so bad, was staying at the time with distant relatives which is better than being a spastic tourist and they looked after us pretty well. Moscow was kind of 'meh' just another big city, though I did get to see some of the things like Red Square, Kremlin and so on which as a westerner where pretty exotic growing up.
St Petes was as good looking as I imagined, though once get out into the burb's, its fairly grey and miserable- like almost another country just sprang up beside it.

>>75099207
> is there any remote possibility the country is going to unfuck itself?
No, everything is only getting worse.

>>75098848
Glad that nothing changed since I stopped watching tv a decade ago

>>75099207
Not a chance

Yeah man, that's so stupid of us - sending our troops to a frigid wasteland so they can learn how to fight in frigid wastelands.

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>>75098519
What will the reindeers do when the rus i mean enemy comes?

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>>75099712

>>75099620
the need for warm clothes and proper equipment on frigid wastelands has been known for the last few tens of thousands of years
what are the troops going to learn? that they need an extra coat? holy shit, that's some next level training

>>75099786
Have you ever been in the military?

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>>75098519
Appearently Russian observers are welcome at this exercise

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>>75099786
>Argentina
>Says something about frigid wastelands/winter

So qt <3

>>75098519
Russian media is childish. This is rhetoric for simpeltons

>>75099865
>>75099775
>>75099712
fucking awful uniforms on everybody. I wish militaries still had some taste when it comes to this stuff.

>>75099928
We maintain bases on the Antarctic friendo

>>75099848
Myself no, but I have an acquaintance on it. I still fail to see how training would change anything about not having proper basic equipment

>>75099786
They need to take care of vehicles, gear and logistics etc. which is more challenging in the cold

But it's been speculated that theyre not here to train and the real reason is they want to establish a permanent base in Norway. Personally I don't understand why they don't just train in Alaska. Alaska is the same environment but bigger. They don't need us for winter training.

>>75099996
Because its not about the equipment.
You're making the assumption that people know how to use the equipment, maintain security, when to eat, how to navigate, maintain a weapon and offset any common ailments like frostbite, snow blindness, altitude sickness and keeping warm.

That kind of assumption gets people killed. In the military we train people to the point they can do that shit in their sleep, you can read about it all you want, but the real crunch comes down to putting it into practice, because if you don't you really have no idea about how it would go.

>>75099983
>aesthetics before function
>brits in charge of camo design

>>75100171
Everything on the OP makes it sounds as if the Americans' failings were due to not having the proper equipment, not about not being used to the environment

>>75100248
Its an 'in between the lines' thing
Its actually about the Russians talking shit in their media about stuff that probably didn't happen.

>>75098519
I bet when it's getting serious it will look much different. Russian media is all funny at first.

>>75100248
This is what the russian media claims

>>75100248
everything in the OP is literally made up nonsense

>>75100312
Yeah, the last couple of greentext lines felt weird and some kind of attempted nationalist muscle flex

>>75100248
The stuff in OPs post is just meaningless posturing from russians. They say they are ill prepared because russians have a massive inferiority complex towards USA and will say these things no matter what

looks all good and fine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKvvIIjQNwc

>>75098606
It's actually true. The equipment they used was tested in Californian mountains, which obviously does not compare to the Norwegian Finnmark. However the Russian media puts a negative spin on everything, while the very purpose of the excercise was to see what works and what does not work in such harsh conditions.

>>75100416
>russians have a massive inferiority complex towards USA
no, it's just pure butthurt, no inferiority complex.
our inferiority complex is towards yurop.

>>75100146
They can go fuck themselves. Norway shouldn't be another Okinawa.

>>75098606

The British didn't had any training to fight in Norway, while the French were trained to fight in such condition but...didn't have straps for their skis during WW2.

>>75100642
Nah, modern military equipment is tested in all ridiculous conditions, including freezing it down to -100°C or under influence of radiation etc.. It doesn't really matter. Every tank and vehicle has a decent heating system. Fighting in the cold has never been so easy as these days.

What matters in the end, is the support of the frontlines. This is a logistical thing. Nato never lacked in these terms.

>>75100146
>>75100725

It's because of the Ukraine invasion done by the russians. The americans was invited by both Norway and the muh heritage people in America who don't want to see their beloved country gone to the wolves

>>75100797
The british are stationed in Estonia and Poland though while we are in Lithuania.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKV1XJDu1SY

>>75098606

Logistic screw ups happen in the military all the time. I believe that more than one unit got forest/jungle cammo for the Iraq War.

>>75100896
Have you ever done military exercises and camped in the woods in -40°C?

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>>75098848
>Meanwhile in America

>>75101572
We are not living in 1910 anymore. I did my conscription and I have camped at -10. There is all sorts of equipment which makes it easier to stay outside. Or some can simply sleep in the IFV. If you think, that the Russian media quotes in OP's post are not exagerated, then you need help.

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>>75098848
10/10, wish more people here in my country understood this. Ever since the refugee shitstorm and Crimea, Russian conspiracy websites have been posting similar stuff en masse, and Putinostan has become the fucking Shining City On A Hill for our conservatives, they eat this shit hook, line and sinker.

>>75101689
american media went full brezhnev tbqh.

it's like this:
>listening to russian media makes you self-hating liberal because too much bullshit
>listening to american/european media makes you vatnik because too much bullshit

>>75099568
>Glad that nothing changed since I stopped watching tv a decade ago
Not like anyone under 45 (in any country) watches TV anyway.

>>75100896

Logistic stuff is never easy. Two thirds of the military can easily go to logistics.

>>75098519
this guy has so sexy camo on his m4

>>75098848
You forgot

>Putin didn't do nuffin wrong

>>75099207

It's too soon for the Tsardom to become a thing again.

>>75101926
nah, Putin is more popular in western media.

>>75102072
Doesn't like 90% of Russians love Putin?

>>75098519
lol US marines are a bunch of 5'1 beaners.

>>75101917
It's actually just white tape. We used to do the same. Simple things works the best.

>>75101026
you mean the hazmat anti gas suits they all got

Why are Russians always so butthurt about NATO exercises? It's something I've noticed. I don't read anything about our media crying about Russian military on Belarus or Kalinigrad

>>75099966
>>>75098519 (OP)
>Russian media is childish. This is rhetoric for simpeltons
For Russians, yes.

>>75102200
No? We don't care about Putin so much desu.
85% of support was when it was a poll about Crimea.

>>75102611
>rrrrrrreeee Gorbachev said that they promised that there would be no nato expansion and unicorns will be vomiting rainbows
>lolwat
>b-but they promised D:
meh

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>>75098606
well, they are anglos after all

>>75103435
why are spaniards and italians more based than brits?

>>75103597
meds truly are superior to pinkos

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Oy vey we train to prepare to invade and murder them and they don't appreciate that

how dare russians mock GLORIOUS AMERICAN AND NORWEGIANS

they should just give up and kill themselves GLORIOUS nato bullets are too expensive to waste in war

fucking barbarians, mongoloids

>>75098519
Did you expect Kremlin media outlets to be singing the American's praise?

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>>75102611
Because NATO wants to murder, burn and rape us, you fool

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>>75098606
>wtf I think the American military can't afford jackets for their soldiers now

we're destitute and drink coffee made out of snow

it's true, North Korea said it

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>>75099317

thanks for the Danelaw faggot

>>75104704
We had nothing to do with danelaw, that was the danes. We lived peacefully in Scotland, Ireland, isle of man and in Liverpool.

>>75104704
norway danish confirmed

>>75104279
Butbutbut mmmuh hacking mmuh Trump Russian spy

>>75104626
Bird Tuesday isn't far away, hang in there bro and take some heroin

>>75104801
>>75104787

All vikings were called Danes in England actually. It wasn't just Denmark

>>75104902
Norway or Norwegians wasn't even a thing back in the 8th century

>>75102611
>>75104326
desu Putin has been doing wonders for the entire idea of disbanding NATO with his actions since 2008. There used to be a time when guys like Pat Buchanan were saying it was obsolete and should have been dissolved in 1992, and maybe they were right at that time.

After Georgia and Crimea, nobody will be talking about dissolving NATO for a long time.

>>75104902
yeah but norwegians wasn't much represented in England, only in Liverpool.

>>75105022
Except your president

>>75105014
We were called norse back then, you guys were called scumbags

>>75105022
>After Georgia and Crimea, nobody will be talking about dissolving NATO for a long time.
And-
>Moldova
>Tajikistan
>1993 Constitutional Reeeeee
>Chechnya (x2)
>Dagestan
>Abkhazia
>North caucuses chimpout
>Syria

Basically Russia lurches from one crisis to another, either sticking their fingers in or generally causing shit for the sake of having some shit to shoot at. I reckon if you where some little arse country next to them, you'd sure as hell want to have some kind of allies, unless you really wanted to be fucked with

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>>75105014
Danelaw ended in the 11th century, so it wasn't just the 9th. Here's King Cnut's territory

>>75105041
Harald Hardrada failed to invade York in 1066, which signalled the end of the Danelaw, since you and the Danes got cucked by the Normans later that year.

Even before that point, Ragnvald Sygtryggsson invaded York in 919 using his Irish base in Dublin.

>>75100245
>brits in charge of camo design
DPM is god tier.

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>>75099983
>>75105403

Our military trains in Norway every year I believe.

>>75105284
We had little to no business in England. England was a danish thing...

Even several years later, in the 17th century when brits needed wood for all their ship building. It wasn't english workers they sent to Bergen to cut down trees, they were all scottish workers.

>>75098611
Why are americans so smol

>>75105681
You're disowning King Harald III?

>>75105682
No nutrients in our food. Please airdrop kabanosy, preferably chicken kind

>>75098519
Well murikan media is just as bad
>IVAN IS EVIL
>RUSSIA OMG OMG NUCLEAR WARR MANIAAACCCC IN CHAAARGGGEEE
>BUUUHUU GAYS OMG BUUHUU SOMEBODY THINK OF THE GAAAYS!11!
>REMEMBER ROCKY! PURE EVIL!
etc. etc. etc.

>>75105641
Looks pretty comfy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miMO2jjuIBQ (Sweden)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EAnW-t-Zww
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMfWis_0dy0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McrrbUB4IhE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwiofeV06w8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Mravd7yDSw

>>75106014
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McrrbUB4IhE

literally did this in elementary school

smelly dumb ameriscum

>>75101863
i just dont think you have a clue what it's like to do stuff in the cold
shit gear will cost a lot of performance and the field conditions might not have any luxuries at all

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>>75101863
omg
media exagerated, what is even worse - it was russian one!

>>75100896
>Nato never lacked in these terms.

Because we pay nearly 4% of our GDP, which is more (in ratio, not gross) than the 2% all NATO countries are obliged to pay.

Something like only 4 of the 28 members pay 2% of their GDP, Germany not included. If you truly care about NATO logistics, pay the goddamn budget. Seriously. The USA is threatened only by Russian nukes. They could annex you, Poland, and the Balts tomorrow and the USA wouldn't particularly be affected.

>>75101870
1/10
what you should understand - if not the russian, the place would taken by some other media to be true light of hope for your info consumers.

how didnt you learn till this day that theyre all shitting on insane lvl
think there are some true angel-like sorces?

>>75107649
The Dutch parliment has been calling for defense spendings increases for years. Our government keeps saying yes and then proceeds to cut the budget anyway. They had been doing this for years. So here the response of Trump was understood perfectly well. Because our politicians were thinking the same thing.

>>75107649
You don't "pay" to Nato, retard. You pay with your taxes to your own military. And in our case we already spend more money than most other countries. We don't need fucking 2%, especially if you look at Nato alltogether. Who should be the big enemy who starts a fight with? It simply doesn't exist.

>>75102342
>>75101917
>mfw my Officers and platoonmates made fun of my for putting white tape on my HK416
>Lmao you want to be "Le tactical" xD
>mfw only Officer who appreciated my "extra dedication" was ex-specialforce.

>>75099058
>joined the army to get that 'hero' status
it is a job, my edgy euro friend
it has some perks such as as free or partially free college etc

>>75107762
>And in our case we already spend more money than most other countries.

You spend 1.19%, which is far lower than your fair share. You have no excuse. You are one of the richest countries in Europe, one of the richest in NATO, and one of the prime benefactors of the defensive alliance (alongside Poland, the Balts, and a case could be made for Turkey).

>especially if you look at Nato alltogether.
No shit sherlock, that's because we're paying 3.7% instead of 2.0%. We would love to cut the military budget down to half and spend that money on welfare, education, and services. Sort of like how your country is now, because it's freeloading like a goddamn leech.

>>75099309
>>75099497
>>75099568
I don't think there are many people that can understand that situation like you russians and us hues do

>>75108998
How romantic.

>>75108613

JFK tried to cut the military budget and the CIA shot him

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>>75105682
It's not fair though. Polish soldiers are all big guys

>>75108613
Italy and Germany together right now have more military spendings than Russia, the only reason why Nato exists. What sense has it to up all the spending? What for? You are retarded.

>>75110209
You must be delusion if you think you can handle Russia on your own. Their society is built on war and oil, just like the USA. The last time you tried to take their oil, you got shit-slapped.

>>75110945
delusional*

>>75109899
"Cut the military budget" as in cut the CIA budget, yes. The American intelligence apparatus is far more harmful and dangerous to foreigners than the proper military (air force, navy, marines, army) is. I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them

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I wonder if the B-2 and F-22s we'd hit Russia with are heated.. hmm..

>>75100896
lol wtf
fighting in the cold has never been so logistically heavy as these days
machines are only worm when the engines start
and that requires huge amounts of oils than don't freeze below -30

>>75110945
>You must be delusion
>The last time you tried to take their oil
>oil everywhere
Should I take this serious? If everybody would spend just 1% in the Nato (without the US), it would still quadruple the budget of Russia, even more. You are brainwashed to the core.

>>75111164
German tanks use a multifuel engine. You can even operate them with methane if it's too cold. Also, these days it's easy to drop supplies where you need them. Putin is still in the 40s with his mind.

>>75102200
>believe in propaganda ratings

>>75111706
*methanol

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>>75111378
>If everybody would spend just 1% in the Nato (without the US),

Meanwhile Europe throws a tantrum the moment Trump even dares to use such language as "NATO without the US."

http://time.com/4645127/dutch-tv-donald-trump-video/

http://time.com/4666142/america-first-trump-video/

If you think you are organized and experienced to contain Russia on your own, fine. We can pull out and slash our military budget down to a tenth of its size, enough to deter our enemies (we have quite enough of those) and protect sea trade. We don't need to station boots in Poland, Estonia, Germany, etc. if it's your opinion that you don't need us.

We'll see how that goes. Meanwhile perhaps we'll spend that money on single payer healthcare as we watch you lose yours (from having to squeeze areas in your budget to pay for your own military).

>>75101878
>listening to russian media makes you self-hating liberal because too much bullshit
>listening to american/european media makes you vatnik because too much bullshit
huh, that's a surprisingly good summary

>>75098519
As someone who spent 4 years in the US Army, I can confirm that our cold weather gear is fucking trash.
We focus way too much on desert fighting that winter stuff gets ignored.
I was freezing my ass off all the times I went to Europe for NATO missions.

>>75111829
>If you think you are organized and experienced to contain Russia on your own, fine. We can pull out and slash our military budget down to a tenth of its size, enough to deter our enemies (we have quite enough of those) and protect sea trade. We don't need to station boots in Poland, Estonia, Germany, etc. if it's your opinion that you don't need us.
I would appreciate. We say this all the time.

>>75099865
Yep, there is full trasparency at these big exercises.

We were in Germany and Poland and had some Russians and Belorussians watching and reporting on us.

>>75108613
>We would love to cut the military budget down to half and spend that money on welfare, education, and services.
A shame then, that your ruling elites are of a different opinion.

>>75104326
just rape

>>75108998
>>75109753
Nah it is not that hard. Just start working hard I guess. Get rid of Putin in Russia and the commies in Brazil and you'll be fine.

>following any media
you are all sheep