I want to know all about this cunt. I saw a PNG flag earlier

Most of it is fairly unknown, apparently there's a large area that's hard to get to that's full of uncontacted tribes and shit. Add to that there's rampant lawlessness outside Port Moresby.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DEyIsOD6cA

>>75092093
There's rampant lawlessness inside Port Moresby too, from what I'm told. This is part of what I'm curious about. It's also absolutely fascinating that we still have totally uncontacted tribes doing their own thing in 2017.

I'm the kiwi that worked there for a year.

It's literally just a worse version of DRC or any other African shit hole.

Basically African lawlessness taken to a whole new level with the addition of a culture ripe with rape and pedophilia

>>75092339
What were you doing here? What places you go to?

>>75092339
>worse than DRC
>a culture ripe with rape and pedophilia
Got any stories? What were you doing there exactly?

>>75092136
> still have totally uncontacted tribes doing their own thing in 2017.
Not surprising. The two most major cities of png aren't even connected by road at all. You need to catch a plane or go by boat from one to the other.

So much crime. I have started cutting out newspaper articles that have fucked up stories. Will make a cool collection to show and scare my mother with :^)

>>75092396
Oh shit nigga, that sounds like a goldmine. Start posting them here.

What are you doing there?

>>75092413
I'm eating lunch at the moment. I'll post about my time here and a bunch of photos a bit later.

>>75092458
>>75092413
Just realised it would be about 1am in us. Sorry, I'll try to eat it a bit faster.

>>75092479
>>75092458
Do you carry a gun? Aren't you worried about getting lynched by tribal nogs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dvY5Anl4fo

damn this countrys..strange, it doesnt seem dangerous and at war but still eerie like someones gonna jump you and a lot of stuff is worn down. So basically the port is like a mini detroit in the pacific?

>>75092498
No, but I've been thinking about getting a gun here. Not for protection, really just because I like guns.

If you have a gun, I think you will attract more danger. People will jump you and risk their lives to get their hands on a proper handgun.

I hear they talk by pissing

>>75092695
What did he mean by this?

>>75092695
Lol. Fuck off Jew.
>>75092793
National language of png is Tok Pisin (talk pissing is the joke)

>>75092515
Its a good video, but he's staying around the "safe" areas. He should have gone around Boroko area to show the sites. Maybe I'll go for another walk this arvo and take some pics with my new phone around the government area

Why is Papua so violent?

>>75092838
Melanesians have been living as warring tribes for thousands of years

>>75092832
Are you actually a native PNGian? If so, do you feel stupid speaking Tok Pisin? It sounds dumb even in creole standards.

>>75092905
Nah he's an Aussie on PNG for work

Ok time to make this thread my own!
I've only got a few articles so far. I'm not usually in port Moresby, and don't bother hunting for newspapers when I'm on site.
Articles outline:
1 woman tortured to death for witchcraft. 3 others are captured and will get the same fate. An organise l organisation is trying to free the ladies.

A big article on black magic and that it's real in png.

2 men with adult rifles boarded a bus and killed 7 people in a revenge attack.

84 prisoners escaped a jail. 17 were shot and killed, 57 are still at large. Brings the total to over 300 escaped prisoners in png over the last year.

Corruption in the upcoming election. Ombudsmen Commission froze rural funding injustices so candidates couldn't use the money for bribes, but all the accounts were already empty.

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Ww2 plane crashed in the middle of the jungle.

>>75092922
Question still stands. Do you speak TP?

>>75093065
What's the deal with the indigenous tribes there? The ones that are deep in the jungle precisely.

your cunt needs to get a fuckin grip

>>75093065
>84 prisoners escaped a jail
What do you have to do to go to prison in PNG? Seems like the men rape women and children with impunity and rob everyone. Do you basically have to murder someone?

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>>75093083
Funny story with this day. The helicopter pilot and I are walking ask over the plane. I spot 2 detached propeller hubs in the grass. Told the pilot i want to take one, he says "no worries, I'll have the other one!". They're 45kg each, the plane is on a pretty steep slope and the pilot can't be bothered carrying them up to the chopper.

Pilot says he'll bring the chopper to the propeller hubs, so we move them into a suitable position on the hill slope and he fled the chopper down the meet me. He lands one of his skids on the side of the hill and is hovering there and he has completely taken off the rear door for me to get the gear in. I turn back and see his rotor blade rotating less than a metre from the hill side!! Thought to myself this pilot is fucking mental, so I chuck the propeller hubs in, hop in and strap down myself next to the open door and we fly away.

>>75093201
I wonder how many of those children have already taken a cock balls-deep.

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>>75093167
> do you have to murder someone
Yes

One of our sites got delayed because a serial killer got put into jail. He was a tribal elder and told the guards to let him out or his village will kill them, so he gets to walk right out the front door. Same day he goes and kills a young boy. The people of the area are furious the man was let out. They start a week long riot, turning over cars, burning houses and luring shops. None of the logistics companies in that area would work while it was going on.

>>75093258
I like this pic.

I don't think you've said, what is it you do there? I kind of want to come and have crazy PNG adventures now.

>>75092515
Damn, the good parts of it looks like the old, ran down parts of Buenos Aires that are now poor.

Minus the nice view ofc.

>>75093258
How's your relationship with Indonesia? Especially west papua?

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Based Aussie PNG poster, nice to know you're alright

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Did a site survey at mt dimodimo. Whole place had been ransacked and burnt down by the locals, for no fucking reason.
It was the only telephone tower in the whole area, so the town of alotau had no internet connection. Couldn't check emails so I couldn't organise my travel agent to pay the hotel bill. none of the eftpos machines would work do I couldn't pay the hotel on my credit card. The atms at the bank in Alotau had been smashed so I couldn't get any money out (it was a Sunday and the back was shut too).
I told the hotel I would keep email them and get it sorted later on. It's been 4 months and I still can't reach them lol.

Pic is the burnt equipment room on the mountain. Pic taken from the telecom tower.

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>>75093298
Electrical engineer. I install air traffic management equipment so a lot of remote sites. Here is the last site I was at. Camped there for 3weeks. It was cold (5C - 15C) and rained every day.

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>>75093114
Only tiny bits. Not a lot. There is a Taiwanese poster I met today who knows a lot more than me!

>>75093345
Peru <33

We started running out of food on the mountain and only ate once a day until some villages walked for 14 hours up the mountain and brought us potatoes, bananas and a tree kangaroo.
They cooked the tree kangaroo by gutting it and roasting it over the fire with the skin and fur still on. The whole mountain stunk off burnt hair! Then they chopped the tree kangaroo up and boiled it, so the burnt hair taste was infused into all the meat. Fucking disgusting!


BTW, sorry I'm an engineer not an English writer so my storytelling is probably shite.

>>75093497
your job kicks ass

meanwhile I nearly failed calc 1 and will end up a neet

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I don't mind the traditional coastal food. It's leaves, cooked banana and some meat (usually chicken or fish) in coconut milk.
If you buy from the side of the road like me it's it served wrapped up in a palm leaf.

>>75093350
damn this place seems like something out of far cry games

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I went shopping today in port Moresby.
They're selling mother fucking fidget spinners!

Fucking hell.

>>75093574
buy one

Go on OP, this is easily one of the best threads on /int/ for a month.

why are people believing him

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I was staying on manus island, where Australia refugee camps are. They have a lot of alcohol related issues on manus so it's been banned from being sold anywhere, besides the "hotels". (Hotels in inverted commas because they are converted shipping containers with a bed, toilet and sink). Because of this there were always locals getting pissed at the hotel every single day of the week! Made my hotel one of the most dangerous places on the island.

Because of the work I do, sometimes we only get clearance for testing during the night. So one night were ay site doing radio checks until about 12:30 before I go back to the hotel.
When I get there there is 5 drunk fellas standing at the base of the stairs I need to take to my room (my room was on the second story of stacked shipping containers). I ask if they've had a good night and excuse myself to go past them. 2 get out of my way, but 3 close in and won't let me through. They start drunkenly shouting at me very aggressively. Push one guy out of the way and get past them as another Starts pointing at my face and yelling "white guy! White guy!"
Say "I sure am" and run up the stairs and lock myself in my room, get my knife out and put the jug on to boil. I could hear these fellas stumble up the stairs talking loudly but they didn't try anything and left about half hour later. Thank god!

>>75093609
Glad you like it.

>>75093757
Why would I lie on the internet? :^)
It is all true though. What is the hardest story for you to believe?

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>>75093817
the plane crash story is clearly taken out of the movie "the dark knight rises"

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>>75093609
Btw, I worked in davao for a couple months. Nice country, nice food, nice women ;^)
I even worked at 2am at the airport because the days were too hot and got to see Duterte land in his private jet and get off into a convoy of over 30 black jeeps.
Kinda hard to s with my phone photos, but the ones we got on our proper camera are alright. This is after he left and is just his private jet.

We had police officers supervising us as well to make sure we weren't assassins lol.

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>>75093852
Lol. You caught me!

>>75093937
was it part of your plan?

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>>75093954
Crashing this plane with no survivors.

I was in Rabual working at tokua airport and had a day off so I went to check out the volcano that had destroyed the town about a decade ago.
When we arrived at the base the weather turning bad, but my Spanish workmate and I still decided to climb the volcano. We hired a guide for the two of us for the 2 hours round trip climb for $40.
As we climbed it started absolutely pouring with rain! There is no real path up and you're constantly slipping and sliding back down the mountain on the wet volcanic gravel. Our hands were cut up at the end of it all. Our crazy guide was doing this barefoot!! I could feel the heat from the volcano through my thick soled boots and especially when I had to use my hands to climb up the mountain, fuck it was hot. I still feel sorry for that poor bastard.
We were soaked to the bone by the end of the hike in the heavy rain!

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At mount fala I heard of a lake near the top of the mountain haunted by "papagrun" (elder tribal spirit) so I really wanted to check it out.
One of our local workers knew the way there and said it's only a 15 minute walk there. It took a whole hour to get there!! It was the hardest trek of my entire life. There is no path through the jungle, we needed our machetes to make the way possible. We walked along on steep slopes though the thick jungle doing our very best to hold on to anything we could so we wouldn't fall. We crawled under tree roots and over boulders and fallen trees to make it to the surest lake I've ever seen. The water was black!

Sorry, I'm posting on my phone and most of my pics are on my good camera. I'll keep editing my selfies haha.

>>75093905
>We had police officers supervising us as well to make sure we weren't assassins lol.

It would be better if you were though

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Tired of posting stories. Just gonna post some more photos and give it a rest.

Village market where I like to buy my lunch when I'm in Nadzab.

>>75094185
This is the best thread on /int/ in ages. Really appreciate you taking the time to tell us all about your adventures on PNG.

>>75094210
So I know you're around middle and upper class Papuans so talk about them. How much are they like and unlike Australians/Westerner?

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>>75094203
I thought filos loved duterte??

Driving up a river near Kokoda.

Also thanks for posting, people mostly shit post on here and don't talk about really engaging other people. I met an Australian of Papuan ancestry here to talk about these things but he got board and we stopped talking. It was a real bummer, people just like shit posting I guess.

>>75092396
are you not scared of living in there?

>>75094258
Actually I spend a lot of time around lower class when I'm out travelling. They're are generally lazy and only have 4 modes of thinking:
1. Thinking of absolutely nothing (most common mode)
2. Confused
3. Thinking of how to get personal gain
4. Thinking of how to fuck you over.

Gotta be careful around png natives. Even your best mate will probably eventually try to sell you for a dollar.

>>75092069
You will die if you go there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIDX2Var1Eg

>>75094093
Is $40 a big deal there? I would've said it's good dosh if you make that much for 2 hours but given the heat, I don't think it's even justifiable.

>>75094276
You probably met either the Davaoenos (which are obviously biased for Duts due to him being a Davaoeno himself) or the dumb diaspora living back at your home country who don't feel any danger just because they are not here.

Most of the level headed people here are genuinely bothered.

>>75094330
Is it true that there are still slaves in the Philippines? The Atlantic just published an article about an American Flip family that secretly owned a flip slave.

>>75094377
I didn't read that as it is a sensationalized article (albeit true).

>Is it true that there are still slaves in the Philippines?
It depends on what you call slavery. Sex slaves are not alien to us, also corporate slaves and unpaid workers surface from time to time.

>>75094330
It was actually $80pgk which is like $35 Aussie bucks. It's a lot for them. The average income of a full time working png native is about $350pgk a fortnight.
But everything is so expensive here! It's a 3rd world country with 1st world prices. At least in Philippines everything is super cheap!
That's the reason why ~80% of png still lives of subsistence farming.

Yeah I only really spoke with peeps from davao, and my filo mates in aus. Half my filo mates don't like him and the other half love him.

>>75094185
Forgot to add, the local land partners found out I went to the lake and got pissed. Said they would hurt me, run my installation if I didn't pay them $2000.
I told them I only took a couple photos, I didn't hurt anything. I told them I'm not paying and if they have a problem with that and wreck my system then I'll make sure TekikomPNG don't pay them their $50000 land allowance. They were very nice to me after that haha.

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I would take shits here in the jungle at this mountain site.
Really fucking freaky when you're doing a shit in the pitch black darkness in the middle of the night!

>>75094321
It's probably because they are poor and understand any financial gain they make will have to be redistributed to their families so the incentive to work hard lessens and the desire to one up a Westerner increases because they can get money and their family won't know about it.

Are you saying you're never around middle class or upper class natives though?

>>75094491
Oh you look cute :3

>>75094494
>It's probably because they are poor and understand any financial gain they make will have to be redistributed to their families so the incentive to work hard lessens


I've seen that said about other folk and it never made sense at all.

>>75094494
There is no middle class. Only upper and lower. Upper class is mostly held by expats and native friends of the prime minister. Even upper class natives act savage and dumb.
Their infrastructure had progressed, but the people haven't. 100 years ago they were living in huts and throwing spears at each other. Now days they live in huts or corrugated iron shacks, grow marijuana, sell it to Indonesia in exchange for assault rifles and kill each other.

>>75094508
Haha thanks.

>>75094559
Didn't make sense to me either. They don't work hard, because they have never worked hard. It's just not in their culture.

It's the same with a lot of tropical equatorial countries. Good grows year round, no need for planning for winter. Just throw some seeds around, she'll be alright. That's why "png time", "Fiji time", "Solomon time" are actual things. Relax, things get done when they get done.

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I'm very sorry guys I keep forgetting to attach pics to my posts!

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Also I have to edit each pic down in size because internet is not good enough to load the pic in its full glory :/

Notice the fire burning in the background of this pic. Burning rubbish is a very common site in png. There's a saying here "if it moves they kill it, if it doesn't move they burn it"

>>75094559
If you make a thousand dollars your mother and sibling and cousins and aunties and uncles all come to you pressuing you to give them a piece.

If your hard work goes without personal gain you simply stop working for personal gain and thus don't work to be the biggest and best.
>>75094603
:-( seems like you see Papuans and inferior, that doesn't seem like a characteristic of a cute person

>>75094668
>>75094559
It may have something to do with that but it's not the complete story. Tribal and familial institutions are deeply ingrained to their societies in that development into a proper state is hindered. Added to the fact that geography hinders any kind of movement between peoples reduces interdependence between peoples beyond their own families.

I would suggest Fukuyama's book "The Origins of Political Order" as he tries to explain why PNG is a dysfunctional state that it is today.

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For how ugly the people look, the country truly has beautiful scenery

>>75094668
I know of some guys that went to the middle of bumfuck nowhere on a church trip to help some villagers build stuff to improve their livelihood. Sounded like at least a few were discouraged by their apparent lack of work ethic and interest in helping themselves. I think it took them like 3-4 trips to finish what was supposed to be done in 1.

>>75094491
What's papuan food like?

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>>75094783
Not inferior per se. I don't know how to describe it.
It's like they are their own worst enemy. Png has so much potential, if they could just get a couple things under control they could really start to excel in the Pacific region.

>>75094668
No PNG is different now because of the changes in their farming. Anthropologists speak of pre-ipomea the time before the sweet potato was introduced. It collapsed social structures, created big man rule and created vast overpopulation.

Famine was ever present and to this day it persists, you also have protein deficiency. Tropics is not easy, especially with all the diseases and inability to store food for long time because of climate
>>75094863
Do you think Papuans are unable to support themselves? I mean didn't they hire you to better their people?

>>75094783
>If you make a thousand dollars your mother and sibling and cousins and aunties and uncles all come to you pressuing you to give them a piece.
>If your hard work goes without personal gain you simply stop working for personal gain and thus don't work to be the biggest and best.

That's simply not true though at all.

>>75094826
Sounds about right. This project I'm on is over a year overdue for completion. Will be fine hopefully by the end of this year fingers crossed.

A pilot told me a story of a missionary couple from America that lived in a really remote village for over 2 decades! They built a church for the village and taught them Catholicism. They even organised solar panels to be installed in the church so it could have light. They learnt the local dialect and translated word for word the entire bible for them.
Every Sunday they would perform a sermon and the whole village would be there attending.

After over 20 years they finally said goodbye and went back to the US. A year later they went back to the tribe to see how they were getting along. The solar panels were stolen, no one was doing sermons, people were now living in the dark church and the bible they wrote in the native dialect was missing. They eventually found it with stacks of pages missing, they had been using the pages to roll cigarettes.

Two fucking decades... I don't know if I should laugh or cry.

Heard any stories of cannibals or better yet, encountered any?

>>75094957
Actually that does happen a lot here...

Look, I'm an engineer, not some socio-economic-humanitarian worker. I didn't mean for this to turn into a debate on why png is the way it is. It just is.

>>75095021
Yeah. It happens in the highlands. Usually to do with occult activities.

did you fug natives or something?

>>75094875
>I mean didn't they hire you to better their people?
Engineers and Scientists unfortunately aren't social workers. Yeah they may try to better society by providing quality-of-life-increasing things but beyond that, they cannot really change culture and political structures.

just jumping in to say great thread

>>75095074
Yes a few.

I'll tell you the most interesting encounter. It's a long story I'll try just tell the best bits.

My mate and I are out drinking. We be friend dine locals. One of the girls basically throws herself onto me. Won't let me go. We ask them to show us some other bars. They take us to Chilli Peppers, a dirty bar with corrugated tin walls. I buy a round of beers. The bartender didn't pop the lids of the beer bottles so one guy opens all our beers with his teeth. This girl is still holding on to my arm repeating "kiss me, kiss me", do i start making out with her. Start a game if pool with a local fella. I sink all my balls besides 2, while he has only sunk 1. He is visibly angry, he comes up to me and says "either I beat you at the game, or best you with the pool stick". I laugh and say "come on its your shot". I act drunker than I am and throw the game. He wins and yells "I beat the white man!".

I keep making out with the girl before I get tapped on the shoulder by one of the locals I first befriended. He tells me a lot of guys are angry I'm kissing native and want to bash me, we need to leave. Get out of there with the girl and meet my mate out the front. He is white faced and told me he thought I would need to be dragged out of there bloody and unconscious. We hop in a taxi and go back to the hotel, I take the girl with me.

Get to the room and fuck. I was drunk but distinctively remember her skin tasting yuck and sour, and I sucked on her tit and it lactated in my mouth!
Wake up in the morning, time for round 2. We start fucking and she starts saying "put a baby in me, put a baby in me!". I think it's hot and say "fuck yeah I'll put a baby in you!" as I thrust into her (I'm wearing a condom btw!)
She stops me and says "No! take of the condom and put a baby in me". I really want to nut but she won't let me fuck her if I don't take the condom off.......

>>75095378
do you naturally have big balls or you grew them somehow? reading this thread seems you could've died dozen of times

>>75095378
Cont...

I look at her and say "okay let's do this". I take out my penis and take off the condom. She tries to grab my dick and put it inside her but I stop her. I say "hang on, let me stroke it first" and start wanking. She tries to grab my dick and put it in her again. I say "Wait! Let me stroke it. When it's ready ill out and in and give you a baby". I continue wanking and dirty talking her. I start to climax, so shift forward so my dick is past her vagina and cum over her stomach.
She is pissed! "You stupid bastard!" She talks as she gets out of bed and good in the shower.

She makes me give her money for the bus and she leaves.

>>75095331
>>75095446
Thanks mate.
I grew balls by living and working here. I was a bit timid before coming here but not anymore!

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>>75094875
You've made some good points in this thread. I'm gonna mull over them while I have a beer tonight.

Like this anon said though >>75095192, I'm not really here to fix their society, I'm only here to install ground-based communication and navigation systems for aircraft.

>>75095532
I'm also an electrical engineer, doing automatisation (PLCs, servos etc.). I plan on leaving Croatia and getting a job which would give me an opportunity to travel around, need to just finish my masters in July.
I chose automatisation just because of travel possibilities it offers, seeing pictures like this makes me wanna travel.

could you ever post in
>>>/trv/
threads last longer, would have a lot of interest

>>75095710
Cool! I majored in robots and automation too.

I lucked out with this job pretty hard! There aren't a lot of jobs that will have you travelling to other countries frequently I don't think. My industry I'm in right now is air traffic management. There's airports in every country so I have a lot of opportunity to travel.
It's a niche industry but a good place to start looking if you're into this kind of work travel.

>>75095953
I know, I chose it because of that!

My major (electrical machinery and automatisation) gives a lot of people who do automatisation around the world. I need just to get a right job, current one is ok, but it's mostly office job and I also need to act as a salesman (doing presentations and so, not a problem but not what I like to do).

I want to see the world.

>>75093537
Does that fish still have scales on it?

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>>75096170
Yes it does.

Funny story! I was on manus island and was having a shit day. I wasn't in the mood for any more crackers and tuna for lunch so I l eft the work site and walked to the nearest kaibar (word for fast food). Kai/Kaikai means food. The only thing in the place that didn't look crap was the battered fish, in fact it looked pretty damn good! So I order it and walked back to the work site happy. I get there and start eating the battered fish and realise it is a complete fish, battered and fried. Still had the head, tail, bones and scales. Haha! I just laughed and ate it. It was all I could do.

I realised I didn't post any pics of native people. I've gone on my camera and taken of a few photos I like. I hope there's still people here lurking.

>>75096400
are locals small and/or you're a big guy?

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The man with the "S" on his hat was named Honest, or Oncy for short. He was the leader and threatened me a couple times. He had a very bad temper and I was always wary of him and tiene to keep him happy.
Guy with the dreads is a subcontractor I work with a lot named Rusiat. Very funny guy!

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>>75096438
I'm 6ft.

This village had 10 people, that's it. On top of a small, steep ridge, in a valley, in the middle of the jungle with no mobile coverage at all and a 3 day walk to the nearest town
I only spent 1 minute here. Literally a minute. I wish I could have had a bit longer.

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Last pic.

Good night guys, it's been fun (and exhausting). I hope you all found some entertainment or insight from this.

Cool stuff. Mind If I save it?

>>75096553
is inbreeding common then?

would you work at a airstrip like at 14:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wXAqfOMLw8

or need something bigger?

What are the girls in PNG like? Are they hot?

Welp, looks like he went to sleep. Good night

>>75096659
Be my guest
>>75096827
Not in bed yet. I'm going to get dinner.

>>75096790
Not good looking... but the longer I spend time here the cuter they become.

>>75096739
I've been to many airstrip, some even just a grass landing strip. I don't work at these places though.

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wew, that was a lot of cutting and pasting

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part 2

>>75094257
Agreed, I wish there were threads on /int/ like this one

>>75092069
People get skinned alive there. It's one of the most violent places in the world.

You can't live anywhere that isn't a heavily fortified gated compound.

>>75097314
>>75097346
Romantic Romania!
Thank you soooo much!! I love it! This will be my magnum opus!!

>>75097348
>>75093609
>>75094257
>>75094290
>>75095331
Thanks to all of you for saying it was such a good thread. I'm not too confident in my writing abilities(I failed English in year 8 and 11), which is the main reason why I haven't embarked on this kind of thing before. It means a lot to me.

>>75097348
I usually prefer easter toad spam and >argentina >white but this was a nice change

>>75097793
What exactly do you do there btw?

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>>75097793
Y-you're welcome

>>75097848
Lol.

>>75097851
See >>75093410 and >>75095637 :^)

>>75097936
Don't be modest. I'm really flattered by everyone's interest and all your effort in those pictures.

>>75097793
my english kinda sucks but no one expects non native speakers to be fluent
your english is pretty good btw

>>75098019
Haha, I am a native speaker. :^/

>>75093497
Wew this is straight up savage jajajaja

>>75094185
Blackmarsh

Nice thread btw are the girls actually attractive or do they all look like abbos?

100% of PNG posters are Australian expats living in heavily fortified estates in Port Moresby

>>75096922
>but the longer I spend time here the cuter they become.
Is this some form of stockholm syndrome
>>75098329
They are quite possibly worse

>>75094996
Lmao that is hilarious

Missionaries are disgusting and I am very happy the Papuans bastardized a non-native religion. Missionaries are just brain washers LARPing as moral people.

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>>75095378
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHASHAHAHAHAAHAJAAKAKKAKAKAAJAJAJAJAAJ

>>75095503
Eh you did the right thing lol

Gonna give this a bump for the American OP that was probably asleep for this thread.

Legendary thread

Bumping a great thread.

Different French anon, but bumping as well. We rarely have such quality threads on /int/ anymore.

>>75102555
OP here. You're right, I went to bed right before this shit really got good but I've just been catching up on it. Looks like lots of people have enjoyed it and so have I. Thanks!

>>75093083
is this a japanese plane? I think I was there

>>75095532
I imagine you would grow balls pretty fast. This place sounds wild as fuck but also like a unique experience.

I'm doing computer science for the shekels and also for the possibility of travel, because so many cunts need programmers. I highly doubt I'll end up anywhere like this though, and that suddenly makes me feel disappointed.

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>>75098469
>>75096922
>>75096790
There are beautiful women everywhere, being able to decipher what the beauty of a people are takes time.

So while it seems like Papuan women "grow" on your, your mind is actually slowly cobbling up a definition of beautiful for a new people.

First they may be ugly, then you find some and compare their beauty to other groups, then you may even say you like certain things more about them than other people before finally you're able to find the beauty in who they as a people are and find certain women of all groups stunning in their own right.

>>75113150
You are way too good for 4chan, my man. I like this mindset though.

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>>75113254
Thanks :3

>>75102555
(You)?

>>75114626
I'm sure he's asleep but I wonder if he'll come back if we can keep the thread afloat for a while.

>>75115490
i need that rare (You) :^(

>>75115658
Here's my non-rare (You) instead

>>75117514
:^)))
would take every (You) i coould have just started collecting so its quantity>qualitiy

Bump?

anatha one

>>75114626
Good morning

>>75115658
Guten tag

>>75117609
Moning tru

>>75121475
Hey PNG Aussie, are there any Indonesians in PNG trying to exploit its resources without annexing it outright (which they can't do obviously because it's under Australian protection)? I've heard they're pretty harsh with the natives on their side of the island.

It's been really nice waking up to everyone's nice comments and bumping the thread!
Thanks everyone!

>>75109877
It's a b17 bomber, built by Britain and given to the Americans. It's been named the Grey Ghost. You can Google it for more info of you want.

>>75113150
This actually makes sense. Not just their faces and bodies but also their mannerisms as well.
That said the majority of them are still pretty unattractive to me still.

>>75121587
I guess that would happen along the border in the western provinces. I'll be going to Western Province (very imaginative name) in a week or so, so I'll ask the people there.

>>75122113
What happens in Western Province?

>>75122113
Go to the Western islands and avoid the Highlands and Port Moresby. Sadly women are treated like slaves and are taught to be a certain way for men, add alcohol and urban women trying to find a way "out" with Western men and you'll have a harder time.

Austronesian speaking Papuans are much more egalitarian, you'll probably find someone who isn't so clingy or desperate in the same way :3

>>75124566
Indonesians killing West Papuan nationalists

>>75126599
I'm here for work and an awesome experience. I'm not looking for a relationship. If I was I would go to alotau and it's surrounding islands. That area has a reputation for the most attractive papuans. I did meet a woman there who was very well spoken, attractive face and very flirty., but she had scars on her chest that put me off. :P

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Wow, glad I caught this thread. Papua is a fascinating place. Thanks Australian!

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Quick story for anyone who still has tabs on this thread. Out the window of the hotel I used to stay at in Port Moresby there is a dirty, rubbish-filled creek. I came to realise one of the outlet pipes was the local bathing grounds for many papua new guineans.

It felt really weird, but over 3 days I would wake up and look out the window and watch all kinds of people old, young, man and woman get naked and wash themselves there. I was fascinated at their lives.

My apartment now doesn't look over that area anymore. This is the only pic I took.

If this thread is still kicking around tomorrow, then I'll keep it bumped and videotape and post on YouTube a walk around the neighbourhood I live in. I'll try get a close up of the bathing area (if no one is there using it)

>>75135028
Just so you know, that's not an uncommon sight here and especially in India. Like if a native here sees that, there would be pity but not shock.

>>75135169
>videotape and post on YouTube a walk around the neighbourhood I live in
I want to see that. Bumping

>>75092069
I heard of a math wiz from there.

>>75136010
I know it's not. I watched people bathing in the rubbish filled sea in Philippines, in sewers in Cambodia and in Thailand.
Just is curious is all.

>>75136138
Thanks mate. I'll have to create a new YouTube account tonight not linked to my real name.

>>75092069
>PNG
Bloated size, at least 95% of PNG posts are JPG proxies.

>>75135169
looking forward to it!

Great thread Anon, thanks for all your stories and pictures

Thanks for the love. This is my final bump before I go to sleep.

Hope it doesn't get archived overnight, I'll do my best to grab the video tomorrow around lunchtime. I'm scared that the internet speeds won't let me upload as quick as I want.

Post more about their religion if you know. Aside from cannibalism that is.

OP here, at work but bumping for moar.

Bump for OP

>>75126966
>Ceremonial scars
>Off-putting

You are weak man!

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amazing thread, looking forward to reading more of your stories

Bumping for great justice

This is actually worth keeping alive

bumpin

>>75147436
How do you know they're ceremonial? I'd rather think of domestic violence.

Morning already at these regions. OP will wake up soon

Bump

Best thread I've read on 4chan for a while. Thank you Aussie New Guinea.

Bumping the thread if he goes through the video post.

>>75092069
They should build a wall against indonesian muslims before they destroy them all.

Morning everyone. Stoked everyone pitched in with the bumps last night. I'll be shooting the video in about 4-5 hours, so I guess you can expect to see it in maybe 7-8 to allow time for editing and uploading.

>>75143819
They are mostly very heavily Catholic. I always find it funny how so many people lie, cheat and steal through the week and then won't work Sundays because it's the Lord's day.

>>75147436
Yeah like this anon said >>75154833 they weren't ceremonial. I wouldn't mind some ceremonial scars on a girl for the experience, but scars that look like she's been stabbed with a red hot fire poker are off putting.

God damn, this is an amazing thread, I would let you fuck my daughter, you white pig.

>>75157838
>They are mostly very heavily Catholic
That's kinda disappointing really.
(why am I awake at this hour...)

>>75126743
That's the other side of the border, I think he was talking of this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Province_(Papua_New_Guinea)

Bump. My shoppings almost done.

>>75162866
Yeah, that's where I'm talking about
But I still think there is still some occasional fighting along the border between png and indo.

<3 u PNG :3

>>75157838
I expected these guys to be proddies. Why are they Catholics though?

>>75166497
Probably because that's the cult that found them first. That's how that shit usually works.

bump for op to return

>>75167858
Got back from videotaping a short walk not too long ago. I'm reviewing the footage, it needs to be edited shorter but my work laptop doesn't have software. So I have to download something for that, maybe even mess with the colour scheme a bit.

>>75167978
>So I have to download
what's internet speeds there like?

>>75168652
Based question right here. I bet if you're staying in a nice hotel for white people the speed is fine, but I bet it's set up by an Australian company and you have your usage capped. Just my guess.

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>>75168652
>>75168790
At my apartment

>>75168941
I mean, at least the ping is decent I guess.

>>75168941
Holy shit. Guess it's all single player vidya for you eh?

>>75168941
That's slower than mine, and that's saying something as the slowest internet in Asia

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>>75169016
>>75169049
>>75169079
Yeah I've been stressing because some work pages won't load, because the shitty internet,which I need to organise plane tickets.

Took me a while to download a video editor. It was only 35MB, but the download kept failing.

Here is the speed when I was on top of mt fala.

>>75169200
Hey at least its slightly faster than Dial-up speed.

>tell png i love him
>he doesn't respond

hope you get cannibalized cunt

>>75165396
>>75169658
Lol love you man.

>>75169891
s'alri

Video finally exported. Just need to upload it to YouTube. Its gonna take a while :^(
It's gonna go live on my channel www.youtube.com/channel/UCHHKvFvuG_NSYtRhLZXGc1A

No commentary, shakey video and a dirty lens. You guys are in for a treat.

This board needs more of this kind of threads, this is a quality not seen in months if not years

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>>75171289
>Kaikai Pekpek
Very nice

>>75171289
kek at the paint intro

>>75171289
Awesome thanks for that m80

>>75171332
>>75172207
>>75172509
>>75172792
Hey it got finished a lot earlier than I thought!
Thanks fellas. Kinda hard to believe this thread has been alive for 2 days now!

Here's a straight link to the video for everyone else. https://youtu.be/6h3JB4ZJR5A

>>75173225
thanks a lot anon

The first thing I noticed was how badly the pavement was damaged. Sad to say this but we have some areas that look just as destroyed around here. At least we're working on improving them.

Damn, I didn't think /int/ was capable of such threads anymore. Thank you, anon. Stay safe.

It would be a shame if this does not reach bump limit

Worked there for a year and a half. I was glad when I got shipped off to Cambodia.

My Dad worked there when he was younger and he said it used to be a lot safer in Moresby

A girl I went to high school with was from PNG. She kinda hinted that she'd been raped or at least sexually abused and kept on talking about how happy she was to be in Australia. Really sad stuff

Apparently they religiously watch Australia's sporting leagues over there. Rugby league, australian rules football and cricket are their three biggest sports.

>>75178311
So what happened to her? I hope she didn't go back.

>>75178364
Pretty sure she's a citizen now

>>75093537
is it cooked properly?

It's a shame we couldn't have done more to improve their quality of life when it was an Australian territory

At least they're not getting genocided by Indonesians like the West Papuans I guess

>>75169200
are you using satellite connection?

A great thread on /int/?
surreal

>>75173225
Aside from the left-side driving, there's not much difference from Manila.

>>75093574
Christ, this fad really is everywhere isn't it?

>>75092069
There be cannibals

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>>75189803
Fucking brutal.

So from what I understand, what happened was that Europeans discovered stone age people and introduced them to modern technology, resulting in a lawless and violent country?

>>75192875
Yeah we should probably have an IRL Prime Directive for shit like this.

This is a really good thread.

good thread, thanks pnglad

>>75163730
You between Western Papuans and Eastern Papua or Javaneses against Papuans?

This was a very interesting thread.

>>75198268
meant*

>>75094727
Can we drink it?

One of the reasons I justify spending hours on /int/ everyday is that very rarely an excellent thread like this happens. Thanks OP

>>75178111
What places did you work?

>>75178311
I can go out into the middle of nowhere and can have a chat about nrl.

>>75178438
Yes

>>75178603
Just my mobile phone. We couldn't get our satellite phone to work.

>>75184117
I liked manila a lot better. Manila is more built up and civilised.

>>75198268
Between East Papuans in Western Province of Papua New Guinea against Javanese.

>>75199041
I really like that picture. The rivers are different colors because one flows fast and the other flows show. I didn't drink it.
I met a tribe there who says they don't drink any water from the river out of respect for the people that died there in ww2. Which was bullshit otherwise they would never get any water otherwise.

>>75199823
Do you have many expat friends there or are there not many around? Any natives you'd actually call friends, or just ones you trust a little bit more than others?

>>75199653
I actually want a crazy PNG job of my own now.

>>75199823
You have any more pics of the more developed parts? I'm always curious to see how the developed parts in a largely undeveloped country look like.

>>75200384
Second this. My favorites are the ones that show the contrast, a really developed looking area right next to third world huts and shacks. It's depressing but interesting.

how is this fucking thread still alive

>>75200484
Because it's great, and has had the help of several people bumping it. OP here, and I had no idea that this shit would take off this way but at this point I'll be disappointed if it dies before the bump limit.

>>75200342
I have a couple expat friends that work and I'm mates with the dutch soccer coach of the nation team.
I have quite a few native people I trust more than others and only two that I would want to spend time around as friends. One is a young workmate and the other is a driver I sometimes have.

The driver is a funny bloke and always drives me along shortcuts through rough areas that he's not allowed to. He tells me stories about how when he was young he would ride around in utes with his coastal mates and they would kill highlanders at night. He said he killed 3 himself.

>>75200861
Any more pics of Port Moresby?

>>75200444
>>75200384
>>75200951
No, not really. I have the day half off again before my trip tomorrow. I might take my camera around for you guys.

>>75201018
The only pics on google images are just an ariel(whatever) view of the whole city. I like seeing what the locals see. Thanks a lot for the pics.

>>75201018
I wish I lived someplace that /int/ cared about seeing. I'll be taking a work trip to Spokane tomorrow but I don't think anyone gives a shit lol.

>>75201097
Spokane sucks shit

>>75201188
I agree. It's a gorgeous drive from Seattle at least. /pol/ would probably like Seattle but I am not one of those.

>>75201238
I live in a state with only a million people, if we were a country i'd be rare ;(

If I were to get a job as a security contractor in PNG, would it be more or less dangerous than Afghanistan? I hear private security in PNG can make serious money.

>>75201018
Any prostitute stories?

>>75200861
what's a highlander?

This is neato. I went past PNG a few times when I was working on a bulk carrier around north east straya, and always wondered what it was like there.

Honestly everything I've seen makes me think if you made the people a little blacker and the climate a bit drier it would fit right in as an African country.

>>75201710
In all honesty the majority of African countries seem much more developed than PNG. I'm pretty sure there are more uncontacted tribes there than in all of the Amazon, which is crazy considering how small of a country it is and how you'd think by now it'd all be mapped out.

Great thread. Bumping it above the 80 generals if only for a moment.

bump. good thread

>>75201597
I would guess less, but I don't know much of Afghanistan other than liveleak vids?

>>75201603
Prostitutes are illegal here. I would never give a prozzie a go, there's too much hiv and aids here.

>>75201623
Someone from the highlands (centre) of png, as opposed to coastals (outside) of png.

>>75201710
>>75201793
I guess there's pros and cons to both areas. Africa seems more organised but that brings more organised crime like entire rebel armies...
Dunno, the world is a fucked place.

>>75092069

Oh shit it's a PNG thread, finally a thread I think I can contribute to, hope I'm not too late. I just finished 2 years of working in Port Moresby and am glad to be leaving.

Seems like the PNG flag guy is having a much better time than I did, but I never went outside Moresby and I spent nearly all my time working. Hope he doesn't mind if I chime in to offer my thoughts on some matters.

>>75178500
This. But from what I've heard from the old expats and locals living there things have steadily gotten worse since independence. Like the Kina used to be worth more than the AUD and even the USD. At the place I worked we had a huge staff turnover and regularly hired teenagers/young adults. Lots of them could barely speak English despite it being taught in schools, although for some reason their handwriting skills and signatures are surprisingly good (better than mine at least and i'm supposed to be 'educated')

>>75200342
There's a relatively tight expat community in moresby, you'll see the same faces every time you go out to a social event. Some of the older guys are dickheads, probably something about being a big fish in a small pond or w/e, but the younger crowd are generally pretty chill.

>>75200370
You say that until you discipline/terminate an employee and they get their police friends to try to arrest you, or get their raskol friends to try to carjack you at night when you're driving home

>>75200861
Do you believe your driver though? From what I know about highlanders they would burn his shit down and kill his family and still ask for compensation. Em giaman tasol.

>>75199823
see
>>75093344

>>75202947
What sort of job? Engineering or security, or something else?

>>75202947
Post stories

>>75202947
Thanks for chiming in!
I meet a lot of expats that only stay in port Moresby and don't go anywhere else. I don't know how you didn't go crazy. The fact I get to go all over the place is the only thing keeping me sane.

I agree. So many people can barely speak English but have the handwriting of angels. Blows my mind.

I believe my driver. His arms are covered in scars and he's always keen to get out of his car and follow me around in case someone tries to give me any trouble lol. He's a maverick!

>>75173225
I thought it would be way worse.

>>75093323
deep conurbano

isnt it just africanized/enraged abos?

>>75205523
I do live in the good government area. I'm not living in the slums. But I am flying into rural area tomorrow that will probably be shit.

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sorry friends, had to go do stuff

>>75203043
I don't really want to say too much, but I officially worked in retail. The thing with working in a family business in PNG is that you end up doing a whole lot of things you never signed up for. There are quite a few family businesses that have grown pretty large since independence because they were around when there wasn't much competition and the locals didn't know anything about business, so the majority of these large family companies are foreigners (usually chinese or white). This has led to a lot of resentment against foreigners, especially when you consider the wages/profits they get against the national minimum wage of 3.5 kina an hour (fun fact local employers pay less than that but get away with it because they're locals). There's also a large philippine population that are brought in to act as managers because they're cheap and *supposedly* know better.

>>75203113
Hmmm well apart from the couple of stories I've already alluded to (they're not that interesting, our security liaison just spoke to the police, we bought them lunches and gave them some money and they went away) what do you want to know about?

Pic related is something that was thrown over our fence by the guys excavating next door. It scared the shit out of our security guard that was having a nap lol. It's called the land of the unexpected because stuff like this happens.

>>75203154
Who said I didn't go crazy :^) Seriously though, it's not a great place to work for your mental health, especially the hours I was working (12 hour shifts everyday for 8 weeks).

i love all of you

>>75206958
Fucking hell! Unexploded ordinance!
I heard that there is quite a bit of that kind of stuff around png, especially near Wewak but I haven't seen any yet. I'll be doing a big job at Nadzab airport sometime later and apparently there is a high chance of churning up a bomb. I'm actually pretty excited, I like that kind of history.

I know this place isn't good for my mental health, I've developed some bad drinking habits.
I spent a 2 weeks working alone in Nadzab and Kokoda. Because the loneliness and stress I started talking to myself constantly.

>>75207583
<3

Excelent thread. One of the best of the year

>>75206958
>>75208158
Fucks sake I'm gonna look into a security job there. I don't give a shit what happens to me, PNG seems legitimately like the wild west and I want to experience it for myself.

Genuinely jealous of you cunts who got to work/visit port morseby. Spent 18 months in New Ireland. Worst shithole I've ever visited.

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>>75113150
HNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
Where do you find semen demons like her in New Guinea??!!

>>75208158
Yeah, I've heard stories about wewak from my dad and some of his friends who grew up there in the early 50s. They said that as kids they wandered around dumping grounds full of american equipment. Apparently there were things like jeeps and weaponry just lying around. Not sure how much of this is true though....

Hahaha, you sound a bit like me, the staff at the duty free liquor began to recognize me on my trips down from moresby and would always recommend some horrible whisky to me.

Did you have any png connections before going up? or did you get into working there as an accident?

le bump limit

>>75208358
What were you doing there? Tell us about it.

>>75208358
What did you do anon?
What part? South New Ireland seemed alright, but I was i was only there for day and was in the jungle.

>>75208351
If you're after action I think Lae has more crime than Port Moresby. (I am not held responsible for your choices)

>>75208425
I think it is true. It used to be a major Japanese base but got taken over by the Americans. When I was there there were heaps of U.S. soldiers doing a recovery of a ww2 mass grave in the mountains near mine.

I didn't have any connections. My company won a tender for 3 projects here and I got sent over with no experience and a system manual. I had to learn quick!

>>75208711
All over going from village to village. Basically just coordinating the construction of rural water infrastructure. I'd spend just long enough in the village to get the project underway with local workers then move on to the next. Some villages were okay, some were fucking nightmares. Had to decline illegal "offerings" multiple times, and was in serious danger several times. Would not go back to that third world hole.

>>75208822
Fuck that sounds cool.
Illegal offerings, like bribes?? I never get offered any. I'm usually the one having to bribe people. :^/

Tell us about the serious danger.

>>75156356
they're the one that keep jumping the border m8, we'll pay for it ourselves suppose we arent so poor

>>75208822
Tell us moar,.dubslord. Hellholes in what way and what did they try to bribe you with? What did they want in exchange?

>>75208979
>>75209070

Never got bribed money because villages are shit broke, the "illegal offerings" I referred to was literally "here is a girl, fuck her if you want" kind of stuff, some of which were clearly underaged. Only really happened in the smaller villages. You have to politely refuse even though it made me want to bash their fucking heads in. You can't do anything to help the girls. Shit like that is what made me hate PNG more than anything else. They have no morals when it comes to treatment of girls. Is it better where you were? I never spent much time off New Ireland.

>>75209211
What did they want from you in return for the loli?

>>75208396
Judging by the motuan tattoos she's from central province, so Moresby and it's surrounds. Although she does look a bit samarai in the face, so also places like Milne Bay (where they actually speak good English, so bonus points for that)

>>75208351
>>75208711
>If you're after action I think Lae has more crime than Port Moresby.
I hear that too in Moresby, but Lae people say Moresby is hectic and Moresby people say Lae is a hellhole. But I think regardless of where you go/what you do there will always be shit going down. The consensus seems to be that Lae is definitely more industrial though, but Moresby would have more govt stuff? idk.

>>75208822
that sounds like actual work. how much did they offer you? for some reason i'm imagining them offering you a few 3k flex cards lol.

>>75208979
tfw giving first bribe to police officer for minor traffic infraction. i think i actually learnt my lesson better than if i was just issued a ticket though, and it didn't cost me as much either. what have you had to bribe people for?

>>75209282
Nothing, it was literally just a way of them saying thank you. The work we did helped them a lot.

>>75209319
Makes me wonder how many others have accepted similar offers. How underage are we talking?

>>75209404
Yeah that's what I thought about a lot too. Definitely not the first foreigner to come through these villagers, and there's virtually no oversight. I have no doubt some people in my position would have/did say yes.

Never asked their age but they generally looked anywhere from 12 to mid 20s.

>>75209404
do you realize how creepy your questions are?

I feel shit for bringing down the mood of the thread. I'll be on my way.

Don't let me horrible experience deter curious /int/ guys. From what I read in the thread the other two lads had a good experience on the mainland.

>>75209305
Thanks man
I've never gone to New Guinea but I've wanted to go there to see tropical rainforests tree kangaroos birds of paradises tropical fishes etc
Didn't know there were cute grills there as well

>>75209516
Nah, it's all good, I agree with you on their treatment of women. To me it seems it's basically ingrained in their culture, the women seem to accept it and then start offering those services themselves. I think I saw some article saying that like 80-90% of young girls in PNG have sold sexual favours or something. IIRC it was a tabloid, but it wouldn't surprise me. Low wages, high living expenses and a shitty culture, means it's an easy way to make some extra money.

Also after every fortnight pay day, without fail, our female staff would come in with black eyes/broken bones. their husbands/boyfriends would steal their pay and spend it on beer/gambling. if ever a country needs more female rights/domestic violence awareness it's png.

>>75209581
Don't get your hopes up. qt3.14s are the 0.01%, and because they are cute they've probably been exploited/corrupted from shitty culture. If you can find one from a good (wealthy/westernised) family then they could be waifu material though.

That being said it's definitely a unique country and there are things to do if you're into nature/ww2 history and shit (not that I got out to see it lol)

>>75209211
Ah that makes sense. Yeah the rural kids get treated like shit, especially the girls.

>>75209305
I given the leaders of a few landowner tribes cash or food so they stay nice to us. Did it in mt Hagen, and in Kokoda.
Bought a couple hundred kinda worth of beer and got drunk with the elder and chairman of a tribe near mt fala after negotiations to let us work on their land, after they chased my civil subcontractor away.

>>75209444
It's a good thing you never said yes. My south American subcontractors have admitted to bedding some village women while working in the area. They were threatened afterwards for money or to take the girl to port Moresby, or back home.
One guy had to pay 4000kina to get away.

>>75209516
Nah don't apologise. That's the way it is here, people should know. When I was in hospital for my eyes I saw a woman come in in a fucking wheelchair after her boyfriend did a number on her.

How much folk religion gets woven into catholicism aside from the black magic shit that is practized in private?
Once read every tribe had oen gods and own storys/languages so they must have had differing moral systems based on spiritism too.
Or is it just "I fear the jungleghost he gets my gibs so he shall dispense gibs and make my enemies catch diaherra"

>>75209957
I can't commend specifically about whether any of it has been incorporated into their christian service (like voodoo). But when I went there I was interested in the black magic stuff as well, thought it was a joke and made fun of it with the staff, like when I got a cold/flu I accused some of them of casting a spell on me lol.

Most of the ones I asked said they didn't believe in it and that they were good christians and JC was their saviour etc, but I think a lot of them are superstitious, it also depends where they're from. A couple of them told me it was true and that they'd seen a man turn into a dog and destroy trees (not sure why trees, they didnt either) and some woman from alotau (iirc) said that there was a lot there and she'd seen women flying around. You'd read stories in the paper about men claiming their kids were killed by witchcraft or that a woman had cursed them with diseases etc. But it seemed a lot of them didnt like speaking about it, even if they said it didnt exist.

Part of the reason why it might have continued to be practiced/reported about is that I heard that when PNG was colonized they originally criminalized the practice of witchcraft, because it was obviously BS and led to conflict/murder. This sort of backfired though because the natives thought if it was banned then it was evidence that it existed. Apparently this was why it was de-criminalized recently (last I checked it was still in the crimes act though)

I never went to any church service, but they seem to be pretty strict in their adherence to christian practice. I could be wrong though. And yes, PNG has one of the highest levels of language diversity and a lot of tribes developed isolated from others because of their geography etc. But in the city I don't think much of the traditions are followed, but there's definitely tribalism (highlanders especially)

>>75192875
it already was lawless and violent, most of the fucked up shit they do like cannibalism etc predates european settlement

Port Moresby is what happens when you take a tribal people and push them into an urban centre. Their tribal mentality is what causes the problems.

>>75199823
Port Moresby. I was doing some human rights shit there.

>>75201710
It was called New Guinea by the Dutch because the Paupans looked and behaved just like Guineans

>>75211562
Haha. This is exactly what I do. One of my drivers sats he does believe in witchcraft because if you believe in it you give them me power. He also swears he saw a lady climb a tree and fly off.

I have been meaning to go to one of their church services, just for the experience. But I'm put off by how bad I know the church will smell.

>>75211886
Good man, the place needs it.

I was reading through some parliamentary debates today for uni and they start talking about PNG there

interesting stuff

Hon RAY HALLIGAN: I have mentioned some of this before, so members should please bear with me. I spent some time in Papua New
Guinea. There were indigenous people there who, because of their culture, lack of education and, by our standards and our definition, lack of sophistication, were called many derogatory names. There is no doubt that people from other
countries, not just the Anglo-Celtic who were in Papua New Guinea, felt similarly about the indigenous people of Papua New Guinea. They would point the finger at certain parts of their culture. Cargo cult is one part of their culture
whereby they believe that their ancestors have gone to heaven. When they saw planes arrive full of all worldly goods, they immediately thought it was their ancestors sending it down to them. Why not, if that was their belief?
Hon Paddy Embry: It didn’t hurt anybody.
Hon RAY HALLIGAN: It did hurt someone, because they believed it was theirs.
Hon Kim Chance: I have heard of sillier religious theories.
Hon RAY HALLIGAN: However, there was some logic to their thinking.
Hon Kim Chance: I agree.
Hon RAY HALLIGAN: We believe that our ancestors have gone to heaven. In that case a plane just appeared out of nowhere, out of the clouds, and landed in front of them and all these things came out of it.
Hon Kim Chance: All the good stuff.

Hon RAY HALLIGAN: I had a dream last night and my ancestors said that they would send me something, and here it is. I had no idea what it might be, but it has now manifested itself. Cargo cult was quite strong there. Of course sorcery was another problem. Again, like Europe, mainly older women were identified as sorcerers. Some men were identified as sorcerers, but it was mainly older women. When something went wrong, they would blame the sorcerer.
It was likely that that so-called sorcerer would then pay with his or her life. They also had a system of payback. Payback, unfortunately, is abhorrent. It comes back to whose turn, and I will explain this a little. Between warring tribes, if someone is dispatched, usually with a bow and arrow -
Hon Paddy Embry: Permanently.
Hon RAY HALLIGAN: Yes, permanently. If someone is dispatched with a bow and arrow or an axe, that is remembered by that person’s tribe and family. When the opportunity presents itself - that opportunity may be 10 years hence, and unfortunately sometimes only a child may be involved - that memory comes flooding back, and the people say, “It’s now our turn to have one of yours”, and so that person is dispatched. That tribe will then use its culture by way of payback to look for another opportunity to take one person from the opposing side. That is most unfortunate, because they are categorising and saying, “Don’t worry about the perpetrator. You just belong to and are one of that tribe, so you are as culpable as the person who did it. Therefore, we have every right to take anyone from that tribe, and that appeases us.” That was the thinking.
Hon Paddy Embry: Would they consider it almost a duty rather than personal revenge? As part of their culture, is it almost a duty, or is that overstating it?

Hon RAY HALLIGAN: I think it might be overstating it a little to say that it is a duty. It became a duty only when people came together and raided the other village, and they might have killed more than one person. I spoke earlier about the possibility of a young child being the unfortunate person to receive that attention. That was purely opportunistic; the opportunity just presented itself. A person may have gone down to the river and been a number of kilometres from his village. Suddenly, there was a child who he knew was from the village that had perpetrated the socalled injustice upon his group, and that is where the payback came in. However, I am talking about a culture that is thousands of years old. Many people in Papua New Guinea who were from other countries looked down their noses at those indigenous people and, as I said, called them an enormous number of derogatory names because of that culture.

I'm going to do part 3 at some point today but if someone else feels like it feel free to do it. I have nothing against edits and improvements to the first 2 either.
Talking about the thread crops in case anyone doesn't know.