How will sanctioning Poland and Hungary exactly help solving

>>75060302
poland and hungary do not care about Greece

>>75060302
EU thinks you're afraid of not getting German fiat currency gibs

>Oy vey, the goyim don't want to be infested with muslim roaches
>better cut their shekels, that'll show 'em

>more damage

what damage

>>75060408
We can take Greek refugees the same as we took Ukrainian and Tatar refugees. No one here have a problem with helping fellow Europeans.

>>75060302
Why doesn't Poland just leave the EU, are they too poor and useless to do anything on their own?

>>75060534
Why does it take you so long to leave? It's already a year since brexit vote. Are you afraid that you are too useless to do anything on your own?

Poland should invade Germany.

>>75060513
Greece has problems with asian refugees, not Greeks.

>>75060302
EU sanctions are for breaking fundamental rules on democracy, rule of law or human rights. It's not about not taking refugees.

Czech Republic isn't taking any refugees either and I've never heard anyone threatening Czechs with sanctions. Maybe because they're not trying to follow Turkish or Russian model while being in the EU?

>>75060592
Then they should've closed their borders and sent all muslims back to muslim lands and africa. When Greeks will have enough living in muslim infested country we can take Greek refugees - we already took some Greek refugees in 50s - they are nice people that integrate easily - no one will have a problem with them.

>>75060739
What human rights are violated in Poland?

>>75060794
I said OR. You have problems with the rule of law.

>>75060757
The problem is that they can not send them back.

They are trapped in Greece and nobody cares about that because those refugees are not a problem for their countries anymore.

And turkey threatens to let the immigrants in because they are a problem in turkey too and turks hate Greece.

>>75060811
We always had. Every previous government acted exactly the same and EU only noticed that when we refused to do their bidding.

>>75060302
>>75060534
It was the UK the ones who wanted you in the union in the first place. Now that they are gone, it's time to pay your shekles, you leeches.

>>75060739
>I've never heard anyone threatening Czechs with sanctions
This. Same with us. EU is ok with our immigrant politics. We deport 2/3 of them

I won't solve anything. EU just likes to piss on countries. Austria was sanctioned too when we had a right wing government in 2000. But nothing happened because the sanctions were laughable. Also we saved a lot of cash by kicking out a lot of immigrants and removing slovene language signs in the south.

>>75060877
>The problem is that they can not send them back.

Why? Just put them into the boats and send them to Africa

>And turkey threatens to let the immigrants in

What kind of border security does Greece have? When we joined EU they told us that we should strengthen our borders not to let anyone unwanted into EU territory so we started spending millions to make it more secure. Wasn't Greece supposed to the same?

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lol fuck these kikes

they can kiss our ass

From now on we should break as many EU laws as we can.


just so they kick us out of this assfuck kolhoz of a """"""union""""""

>>75060505
Violence, rape, murder, pollution of the Polish gene pool, loss of cultural identity, racial tensions in the population, terrorism, no-go zones, sexual harrassment

>>75060534
>>75060577
UK BTFO.
But seriously, even if Poland says they want to leave the EU, it would take forever to happen because of burocracy

>>75060592

90s saw an invasion from the balkans. 00s saw an invasion from Afghanistan, Irak and a few other countries who identified as afghans. 10s have much more and more ethnic muslims and blacks.
But we also have a problem with greeks in the form of leftist traitors and balkanians larping as greeks after the socialists gave them papers in the 90s.

>>75060757

Thanks for the invite but piss off. We need to kill the invading hordes, not fall back. And we're not going to do that without a wall against our backs.

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THIS MEANS WAR!!!

>>75060302

>do what we say our we will punish you

Poland will be made an example of, as a warming. What actually happens in Poland doesn't matter.

>>75061173
piss off and die leaf cocksucker

>>75061173

ex. EU / NATO claims Crimea is the victim, but they then go on to specifically sanctions/embargo/block money, electricity, water, internet, etc in Crimea.

They're punishing Crimea for voting to leave after the EU / NATO coup. They don't care about Crimea, but they do want to use it as a warning for anyone else who thinks they can just secede.
"We will starve you the fuck out if you try opposing us."

>>75061062
Burocracy is literally a made up illusion

The "humanitarian" kind of course. The coastguard finds a boat, the immigrants sink it on purpose, the coastguard is forced to save them and bring them to harbor. Then they are temporarily stored in the isles until they are brought to the capital where leftist groups inform them of welfare programs that even the citixens don't know about.

Keep in mind that there is no "we" here. The politicians decide on their own and do what they want. The people are outraged but they are demoralized, unarmed and disorganized. Personally I think we should close our borders and start a race war.

>>75060302
while the quoatas are bullshit what is polish proposal than?

no burden just taking money from EU?

>>75061248
That is some first class gibberish. Ukraine isn't member of NATO or EU. EU only sanctions Russia because they refuse to observe the Minsk agreement

>>75061323

Fuck me, meant to quote >>75061014

>>75060302
Gas all poles

>>75061343
you deny the suffering of Crimea people?

If countries break their word they must be punished, or else noone would hold their word.

>>75061340
Our prime minister propose sending migrants back to their countries and help them financially there. We would probably even join miltary action there against ISIS if NATO or USA would start it.

>>75061379
What the fuck are talking about? We are the only ones in EU that took Crimean refugees.

>>75061014
The first is illegal as it is a breach of the rights of north African nations.
Legally a country not keeping people in their borders is ok, but a country forcing people into others borders isn't.
It's why we need consent to deport people to a receiving nation.

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>>75061014
I found this in the Internet.
https://www.quora.com/Why-does-Greece-not-send-refugees-back-to-Turkey

Aegean sea is big and Greece is afraid of turkey near the borders.

It's just the Kalergi plan taking form. Nothing to worry about goy.

>>75060302
Just open 5 refugee camps 10m away of the German border and let them know they will never have gibs if they stay in Poland.

Fixed.

No more EU sanction
Still no fugee
Plus It will enlight the true nature of the fugee crisis.

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>>75060302
My guess it is due to this. You guys have been leeching off.

Not that I give a fuck about the rapefugees, but there it is your answer.

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>>75061014
I don't know why you guys don't do the australian thing and dump them on some third world shithole and pay them to keep them in their zoos.

>>75061417
so you want send syrians back to syria?

hmmm

>>75060513
Wait, when did you took Tatar refugees? Do you consider Tatars European btw?

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>>75061932

>>75061932
germany only profits from that
they plant their companies in all parts of europe

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>>75060408
Hungary got a taste of what it feels like when hundreds of thousands just walk accross, so we do feel for Greece .

>>75062016
lol

this is 100% correct

>>75062016
So, Poland act in the interest of Poland?
How shocking. They should not be allowed to do that.

>>75061932
>>75062016
>>75062285
I don't even have enough strength and patience anymore to object to this bullshit. EU is a way of colonising Eastern and Southern Europe by more developed and efficient economies of the Northwest. We've not developed, we've been pushed into debt and forced to give up our industry, banking etc. to the West.

>>75060302
the logic is to stomp out any dissent
the EU doesn't like countries exercising national sovereignty

>>75062304
I actually agree, I was just shitposting

>>75062304
welp than leave and you can become economic powerhouse like serbia, strong independent nation

>>75060302
Arent refugees just running away from Poland to Germany and Sweden anyway?

>>75062304
>oh no, the business I work for is now owned by a Swede

>>75060302
By sanctioning Racists the EU can protect its value.

Simple as it, Isn't it?

>>75062388
yes thats why imho they should have pan-european welfare

>>75062304
To a certain degree, but I do fully believe central europeans are giving way more money to the poorer states than they have to.

>>75062016
This is such bullshit though. Poland takes a lot from the EU, and should give back to the EU. But what you are expecting right now, is for Poland to help some sandniggers from a terrorist shit hole. How does that even help the EU? If countries like Germany and co. take in more refugees than they can handle, that's their problem, not Poland's. The problem is easily solved by deporting them, not by forcing them onto Poland (who might then deport them anyway)

>>75062473
>>75062388
Problem is, this calls for more union. Fiscal and internal security wise, but people hatet hate idea.

>>75062411
Goddamnit.
Those businesses that could pose a threat to Western metropolies were liquidated. We've been left mostly with second-rate processing for low-skilled labor or various non-commercial 'investments' like parks or museums, while the most qualified are emigrating. And that's the process that has been applied to most Eastern Europe to some degree, including Bulgaria.

>>75062411
and he takes the profit home, keeps your wage low, does zero innovation and moves its business to the next cheaper country when that gives more profit
also kills any and all competition

>>75060302
>"You will do as we tell you, or else."

>>75062459
Eu has no values.

>>75062512
I agree that it was handled the wrong way, these problems will only be solved with proper eu-government agencies having proper power.

Otherwise it goes down like it does now.

>get immigrants
>make them work for 1/2rd of normal pay
>make them buy stuff for the normal price

how is that a bad deal?

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>>75060895
kek, this is how the EU works, we have the most corrupted government in our history and the EU doesn't give a fuck while we act like a good lapdog, but if we started questioning Europe they would use their propaganda machine to throw shit at Spain like they did with Hungary

>>75062529
Your government could have said no, you realise?

No one forced you into the union or the euro.

Germany was forced into it in both cases....what you say sounds like it was a goal to damage poland but it was just central european nations being better at business that resulted in polish businesses being bought.

is poland being investigated too or smt?
you cant sanction anyone over migrants btw

>>75062529
>Those businesses that could pose a threat to Western metropolies were liquidated.

lol, its funny how everbody in eastern europe share this myth

nope my friend, these companies will be all bankrupt

>>75061932
>You guys have been leeching off
Like huge amount of that money doesn't just go straight back to western european companies.
The Structural Funds are just a way of subsidizing German companies.

EU-east expansion was a huge mistake and it is time that the leeching ex-sovjets either step in line or leave.

You cannot live off the economical fallout and top trade arrangements of some of the strongest economic powers in the world and still don't know your place in the world.

Enough is enough.

>>75062304
your post is disrespectful towards all the countries who found themself as victims of imperialist powers.
Nobody is colonizing you, nobody forced you to join the EU and you are free to leave anytime you want

>>75062605
>factory can hire immigrant for 1/2 price
>now wonders why they should hire native poles for the normal price
>native poles need to have good education to get a decent paying job now
It may not affect the average 4channer because we're all very educated. But it clearly hurts the working class

>>75062727
The Brits pushed very hard for it, which is the funniest.

But don't be to mean, we DO profit from it because we can sell our shit so well.

>>75062529
If you don't believe in capitalist competition and comparative advantage and free trade why the fuck do you join a Europe-wide free trade zone?
Just shut yourself off from the rest of the world and impose tariffs on everyone and all your national industries will prosper.

You won't be able to sell anything abroad and everything will become more shitty and expensive but at least it will be certified Polish.

>>75062827
>EU
>capitalist competition
>free trade zone
that's why I have no patience left. it's a hopeless struggle.

>>75060302
we should all do this. EU can't do anything about it.

>>75062605
You already have Ukranians to do that.

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>>75062816
the export surplus in eastern europe is basically non-existant for Germany.

Eastern Europe does not have a noteworthy primary production, they're all dependent on agriculture, lumbering and at best basic chemical processing (because they can dodge all work ethics/safety restrictions the further they are away from Brussel).

This is Africa-tier. Especially Poland, who has flooded all of Europe and even America in ridiculous numbers with poverty migrants should not have a say when it comes to taking in Migrants. 30% of polish speaking people do not live in Poland. There is no investment or improvement going on in Poland because every ambitious young man and woman eagers to leave the country for an opportunity in a richer country, something they somehow shame Africans and Asians for.

And don't even get me started on how they "fear" the "rape epidemic in the west" when eastern europeans account for basically every second theft & burglary. My parents live in NRW and cannot even go on holiday trips because there are eastern europeans stalking their suburbia-neighborhood for empty houses they can break in to in broad dailylight.

Do you know why people do not want Turkey to join the EU? Not even Brussel wants this because Eastern Europeans showed that less developed countries are only interested in solving their inner-political issues by sending their unfortunate & unwanted opposition over.

There are millions of Turkish citizens sitting on packed bags to leave for Germany, Sweden, France, Britain, Italy because they're discriminated against by the turkish regime, a number that even Brussel is aware Europe couldn't handle right now.

>>75062016
Came in here to see whether this has been posted.
Have not been disappointed.

>>75063394
I agree on eastern european burglary gangs, but I meant we sell them shit, thats what I meant.

>>75063394
that's why i hte germans
>destroy 90% of neighbouring country
>kill 20% of its population
>stole 110 tons of gold from jewish banks located in that country
>usa sold this country to communist
>muh lets share everything for the glory of Lenin
>even poland is fucking afterwar desert it is still richer than entire eastern block
>all shit starts to drain from eastern europe to russia
>Poland needs to say to all of its uranium and gold ores
>Poland is turbo poor communist shithole
>Germans buy all of the industry
One day we will kill all of the germans and bring eternal peace to the world

>>75063394
free movment was a fucking mistake

easter europe is depopulated while the western europe is flooded with lowskill workers

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Only way we will even consider taking in refugees is if pissrael finaly abolishes it's racist and apartheid walls and laws.


start getting your priorities correct

yurotrash

>>75062538
He invests the profit because that's how business works.
That's how international investment works.
He could reinvest in Poland, China or America.
"Keeping the money in the country." is a meme if you want part of international capitalism.
Why would a Polish businessman be more likely to reinvest in Poland when he'd make more dosh in Bulgaria? Same for the Swedish businessman and Poland.

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>>75062957
>we should all do this. EU can't do anything about it.
But "we" are the EU

>>75064654
>But "we" are the EU

Yes you, Germans, are in fact EU.

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>>75064726
What are you talking about? We are all equal members of the EU, we treat you with dignity and respect

>>75062016
Yeah, it's not like the Germans destroyed Poland and had their own country rebuilt by American money.

>>75060302
The purpose of the EU is to make europe majority non-white.

>>75062304
>EU is a way of colonising Eastern and Southern Europe
Well you shouldn't have joined the union in the first place then.

>>75065123
it's worse

theyre colonizing these idiots all the while turning them into slave labor.

no different than what you did to us...ivan


these dumb leftist fucks thought the EU was going to be "KOMUNO WROĆ 2.0" but instead theyre getting deprived of what they've stolen during the RPL days.

AHAHAHAHAAHAH it's really hilarious when I think about it

>>75065019
On that note, Poles were forced by the sovjets to not take reparations or rather had it stolen.

Also they got 1/3 of our country, so they should stop complaining.

Also: Bongs got more money to rebuilt, and germany still is a more powerfull economy.

>>75065244
The same thing is happening to most ex-Warsaw Pact countries. Hell, we're being colonized by China at an alarming rate.

>>75065350
Thats the reason Hitler got into power desu, people really reeed out due to everything being shit after WW1.

People hate losing power to foreigners.

>>75065340
>Also they got 1/3 of our country, so they should stop complaining

Are forgetting that this 1/3 was Poland before Partitions? And that we also lost 1/3 of land on the east? An that you were the ones who started this war that resulted in you losing this land? And that it was Stalin wo took your (and our land) and we had nothing to say about this?

>>75061528
Business idea: take the migrants out to international waters and release them on life boats. That way if they end up getting inside anyone's borders you're not at fault. Also there's a decent chance they'll drown, which would also be fine.

>>75065568
Same thing with reparations, Stalin made yo udecline american help and took the shit we gave for the sovjets.

I think germany has paid its due and people should be happy we don't try to conquer shit anymore and try to be more hansa than prussians.

Seriously, strong military germany is bad, non war like economical germany is bad.

And the whole territory shit is fucked anyway.
People like to forget tha tgerman settlers and others built a shit ton of towns and infractsurcture in hungary/romania and russia and were even called in by the royalty but after ww2 they still got shooed out and/or killed.

Leave it be I say.

Its just annoying that poles are so salty still when we get along with the french who arguably got more beef with us than you.

>>75065568
>Germany started war

Actually was France.

>>75065791
Ps:

Mostly shitposting, but i would prefer if we would get along better.

We should probably foundded a north+western+central europe EU first.

Having economical weaker countries in there was apparently a two edged sword.

>>75065811
german subhumans started both world wars

>>75060302

The West wishes to destroy the little independence that Poland has, and completely subjugate Poles to their whim.

>>75066008
Where are you from?

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>>75065791
>who arguably got more beef with us than you

Dude Germans and Russians killed 6 million Poles during ww2. My grandparents were imprisoned in your concentration camp. France only lost 0.5 million people (and that includes their colonies) and almost nothing was destroyed there. And of course after war they could join victors club and decide fate of the loser like Poland who were sold to Stalin.

I want western people (especially Germans) to stop rewriting history.

>>75066207
Greece

>>75066226
You do realise there is more to history than world war 2?

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>>75066281
Oh.

>>75066335
germans are subhumans

>>75060960
>and removing slovene language signs in the south
wow rude

>>75066296
Do you realise that Prussia was occupying Poland for 123 years before WW1? And do you realise that German-based Teutonic Order were occupying our lands even before that and were constantly attacking us?

Fucking stop rewriting history REEEEEEEEE

>>75060302
The EU Council doesn't care about le migrants, it's more about the state of the Polish and Hungarian governments they disapprove of.
People forget that the requirements to be admitted into the EU are actually very strict, it took a lot of effort just to convince the Council to let the Eastern states in to begin with.

>>75062016
Accurate

>>75066413
That is a fact, but what about germans and french fucking each others shit up since Karl the Great?

Our relation to you is rather one sided in comparison.

>>75066468
what? we were a democratic country, then it started taking different direction since 2010

>>75065021
Yep, the Kalergi plan. The eu was designed to flood Europe with shitskins so that (((they))) can rule over a continent of morose halfbreeds.

Now, before anyone calls conspiracy theory, this all open and on record, even the morose halfbreeds part is from Mr Kalergi.

>>75066921
Yes however Hungary and the Czech Republic were (at the time) seen as exceptions to the rule. It was believed that Hungary would have an easier time transitioning to to a market liberal economy than the other 2004 states would.

why does somebody make one of these faggot threads every day and why is r/schulz so hellbent on cucking everybody else in addition to themselves?

fuck off and leave other countries alone, why is that such a complicated concept?

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>>75066468

>the requirements to be admitted into the EU are actually very strict
Tell that to the refugees that have come into Europe. There is enough of them to form a new country. And they don't even have to have valid passports

>>75066468
>it took a lot of effort just to convince the Council to let the Eastern states in to begin with
you mean as they were in 2004. Only a literal idiot would think that the EU was going to stay a Western European circlejerk forever. It's the "European" Union, not the "Franco-German League".

>>75062760
but then you can tax the shit out of the people that hire them and give the money to your citizens

effectively, you go from your people having X amount of money but having to work to having X amount of money but not having to work, which is great

>>75071263
>taxing companies for hiring foreigners
That's never going to happen, because the politicians would scream nazi and racist.

>>75062304
Agreed

But Poles are still hypocritical children.

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>>75062348
You made my day pepik, never change

>>75070645
>It's the "European" Union, not the "Franco-German League".

kek, coulda fooled me...

>>75060513
Workers migrants not refugees you know

>>75072863
they are not real refugees if they leave their mothers and sisters behind

>>75060302
stay strong poles

>EU
>Logic

>>75060505
What do you think happen when you pour a million of the dumbest shitkins anywhere?

>>75072938
>they are not real refugees if they leave their mothers and sisters behind

So muslim migrants are not refugees? Then what are EU trying to sell us?

>>75071941
How is not taking muslims hypocritical? EU is economic union and we literally don't break any rules of this union (like for example France with deficit that breaches eurozone’s limit) - we give what we are suppose to give, and take only what union want to give us. If western countries want it they can form new "migrant redistribution union" and exchange their muslims there like pokemons.

>>75075796
>what are EU trying to sell us
fertile bucks