Ah, so THIS is the beauty of the Philippines. Breathtaking.

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Philippines.

Beautiful.

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Ah, so THIS is the beauty of the Filipino woman.

Stunning.

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Ah, so THIS is the power of the Filipino.

Awe-inspiring.

>>74935454
>Philippines
not sure if "woman" or not

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I wanna go here.
beutiful

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Ah, so THIS is the fighting spirit of the Filipino.

Remarkable.

>>74935394
I thought this was Minecraft at first

>>74935394
Their pinoy rock is also pretty cool.

>>74935740
Lol at 1950's Chinese military

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Ah, so THIS is the majesty of the Philippines.

Majestic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX8cTp-05JE

Ah, so THIS is the resourcefulness of the Philippines.

Inspiring.

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Ah, so THIS is the wonders of Filipino cuisine.

Delightful.

>>74935394
Have you been to Philippines?

>>74935955
This is infinitely better than the dirt cookies from Haiti.

>>74935740
PEFTOKD

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>>74935394
From a Half-Flip that's actually gone over, it has its good and bad parts. The natural beauty is still pretty awesome.

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>>74936551

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>>74936579

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>>74936667
From a distance, Manila doesn't look half-bad.

>>74935740
Holy shit how can chinamen can even be considered "people"

>>74936703
But from up close it's one of the biggest shitholes you'll ever see.

>>74935394
i fucked a filipina girl

it's weird because they're objectively a trash race but the women are still pretty cute

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What is of our music,yes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP4vUUlB7AQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO16-677CHM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JizIRhDsYHY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqT4ZUJFhFc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xppYIlHYt5c

>>74940121
Why is everything related to Pinoy culture tied to some shitty TV drama? Holy shit.
Give us something independent, preferably not too recycled from American trends like generic rock bands.
Did the Spanish leave behind some folk music that got mixed with oogabooga music and evolved into something else?

>>74940229
um akshually they're tied to MOVIES.
Checkmate

but are they catchy?

>>74940229
and the top and bottom ones aren't from tv

>>74940277
Sound pretty tame and generic, soap opera material. Kinda like gospel music, which tries to be current without going overboard not to offend God.

You can tell it's going to be shit when the music starts with a lot of "ooohh yeahh, yeyeyeye, ooohhh" showing off vocal prowess to compensate for the lack of substance in any other aspect.
First one is the least bad one, sounds like some Japanese song or something.

Here, let me post some Brazilian songs just so I don't look like an ungrateful ass:
A mix of rock and baião - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaAjuPoDYAU
Country - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgpdENAlw4o
Pirate rock - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4cYZeWarXQ

>>74940513
>não ironicamenmte postando Mamonas Assassinas

>>74940540
Leve em conta que eles não falam o idioma e ouvirão apenas o som. Dessa maneira é uma banda boa, a construção musical é interessante e não tão entediante quanto ouvir um baião tradicional. Não é que nem Massacration, que é só uma memebanda fazendo powerchords.
Outro exemplo - se as letras de Calypso não fossem um lixo, eu adoraria ouvir a voz da Joelma cantando. Ouça essa "Joelma russa" e talvez entenda o que quero dizer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q973CkcouEI

>>74939570
Parts of it were nice, parts of it were a shithole. I actually kinda liked it, only thing I really didn't like was the traffic.
>>74940229
Filipinos like TV. At least from family experience.

>>74940513
>>74940540
>>74940581
sounds boring

>>74940229
they have a super-colonized mentality and thing everything revolves around music or pop culture.

its even worse than latin america because you guys atleast have literature and intellectuals and unique traditions n sheeit. flips on the other hand is like a country of monkeys imitating people they feel are their betters.

>>74940581
>postando Calypso
Tu é um mãe fodendo MANJADOR

>>74940767
>Go from Ooga Booga tribes n sheit to a regular country
>Not turn into a shithole

its what you get for colonising uncivilized places.

>>74940746
Nothing wrong with appropriating your colonizer's culture and turning it up to eleven, Japan has done it. Korea has done it, even though they produce mainly cookie-cutter pop stuff. But at least Korea makes it with top-notch production value.
Now if you look at what most other Asian countries do, you get to China recycling k-pop and the Philippines and Indonesia being sort of a weird blend of acoustic sing-songwriter boring lullabies or soap-opera c-pop-tier "music". It's like they're stuck in the 90s.

>>74940762
E você é analfabeto funcional, meus parabéns.

>>74940746
this

i wish they focus more on their own culture rather than others' culture
their colonial mentality is bringing them down to a shithole

good thing Duterte doesn't have colonial mentality like the rest of the former Philippine presidents

>>74940817
>Nothing wrong with appropriating your colonizer's culture and turning it up to eleven
Go jump into some sopa animale

>>74940817
Japan and Korea are pretty unique and don't imitate western culture outside of maybe music.

Average flips think life revolves around imitating western culture imo. they barely have any unique ideas or literature and other deep shit.

>>74940830
I wouldn't look to him for anything that is cultural related like music.
Even his own daughter likes "colonial mentally music"

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_oVB8Kakk8Y


Maybe only for Davao and the muslims he likes thoes

>>74940865
Only after you explain me how there's wi-fi inside your igloo, mr. pure, untouchable culture.
Seems like you share reading comprehension issues with my compatriot; since I'm going to bed, you can bicker around with him instead.
Tagvauvutit.

>>74940908
I don't like how much code-switching they perform on a daily basis, that's really bad for your culture. But then again, Tagalog is already heavily permeated by Spanish, so... eh.

>>74940830
>focus more on their own culture
Little of it remains. You have to remember the Spanish and us were around for quite some time and in the end it was America who rubbed off some of the worst aspects of our culture over there. Don't really know what the solution is other than doing something similar to what LKY did.

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>>74940986
Unless you have a time machine

Dictator style will not do anything for us culturally speaking.

Unless he force us all to convert to islam
They still have thier non Hispanic culture

Or go full feather headdress, loin cloth wearing ongabunga mountain culture that plays the flute using ou nosetrills
But this is so tribe specific

>>74940913
>Even his own daughter likes "colonial mentally music"
what else is there to like? there is not one bit of good filipino music because all that they're producing nowadays are trashy colonial mentality music

>>74940986
>Little of it remains.
use those and make them widely known
and/or make a new culture
mostly the reason why "little of it remains" is because their culture is hidden within their books and history
how can they even propagate their own culture if they can't even speak their own language / refuse to do so?

most pinoys nowadays are illiterate of their own literature and their own language

i'm not talking about the ones that the spanish made, i'm talking about their own
the ones in school are all spanish and colonial propaganda

>>74941137
The Muslims probably still produce music that uses their traditional music
But I bet its all going to be about allah

man, you people only like folk songs here or something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-d_HcFKYBw

You're certainly aren't the ones people should invite to a party

>>74941190
who cares about muslims? muslims are also colonial mentality
muslim was never part of the original philippine culture, that's some middle eastern shit

also terrorists need to die, i wonder when duterte is going to go full out on them

>>74941085
I was just rather concerned when I visited family and saw the giant ass malls all over the place next to slums. Even the poor people had smart phones n shiet. Everything had the feel that it was imitating something else in the world instead of being truly original. There were some exceptions, but I feel like there's a sort of cultural stagnation in Flipland.
>>74941137
How do you tell people to stop emulating something that they've been reaching at for decades? How do you sway a population back to a time before the Spaniards arrived? There must be reinvention, somehow.

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>>74941254
That's seem to be the cutout
Hispanization is the moment our culture falls.
Muslims still have their OG culture
Islam didn't changed it as much
As well as the mountain tribes those tribes were mostly touched by the Americans.

>>74941242
>folk
why are you posting bad music? that sounds like some 1950's shit
even japan's got modernized folk songs
where are the modernised philippine folk songs?

>>74941307
>How do you tell people to stop emulating something that they've been reaching at for decades? How do you sway a population back to a time before the Spaniards arrived? There must be reinvention, somehow
make a culture
reform culture
make modern literature
reform old literature
popularise newly reformed culture and literature

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>>74941307
Well the only original things we have left are the Muslims and mountain tribes and maybe ati negrito culture.


So you don't want us to have malls and smart phones?

>>74941331
>Islam didn't changed it as much
islam had a huge impact on the Philippine culture, mostly degrading it. why do you think previous leaders were called Rajahs and Alcaldes? what ARE the actual words for ancient philippine leaders? Poon? Ginoo? Sayi?
wheres the evidences? where are notes about that?

"philippines were muslim" was a shitty meme

>>74941374
>So you don't want us to have malls and smart phones?
tell me what have the philippines invented then? what can the philippines invent? what defines a pinoy a pinoy? other countries have smartphones too, and they have culture too, what's that got to do with anything?

>>74941431
He's saying that their current leader is a Muslim asskisser

>>74941431
Not all of us were Muslim true that

But its the only thing we have to show for that's not ongabonga tribe tier
If we are being shamed with colonial mentality music

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HY9FIjQTarc

According to them the only thing Islam change was their wood carving totem pole culture, Islam forbids idoltry and animal worship

>>74941592
he's a Japanese, Chinese, American and Muslim asskisser
you have to stoop that low if your country doesn't have money and power yet, take advantage of them by treating them kindly in exchange for everything to be in favour of duterte

duterte does NOT want to anger any groups that would only lead to controversy

>>74941372
I thought you just wanted folk music to dance to so i chose the first in my mind. I mean, globalism is like bad man

>>74941628
Those favors has a price

>>74935394
>>74935454
>>74935497
>>74935740
wtf I love the Phililippines now.

>>74941613
Kulintang is only a minority culture in mindanao
that does not represent the whole philippines

>>74941645
no
being old and bad does NOT represent culture

>>74941675
True. But its still part if it for now at least
Again the only thing we can show for that's not hispanized and non tribal tier

>>74941307
What excalty do you expect us to be anyway?

>>74941675
haha folk music never mind

>>74941779
Stop arguing with these idiots, this 4chan. some backward thinking purist are always here. when you start considering modern technology as something bad, you're an idiot.

>>74941706
>Again the only thing we can show for that's not hispanized and non tribal tier
>ONLY
is the philippines empty or smth? are they all illiterates? are they all dead?

as long as there are people, there HAS to be people that make and preserve good NON-colonial mentality culture

>>74941779
>hat excalty do you expect us to be anyway?
a better country that does not suck other countries' dicks begging for culture

>>74941801
china has modern tech and culture
japan has modern tech and culture
korea has modern tech and culture
america has modern tech and culture
philippines has shitty tech and colonial mentality

>>74941854
yeah being 3rd world does tend to do that to you,surprise surprise. this sort of inferiority complex is really just pathetic

>>74941854

So what's up your ass about the Philippines. Did you try living the Moroccan colonial experience there and got booted out?

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>>74941854
>people that make and preserve good NON-colonial mentality culture

I already told you Muslims, our mountain tribes and The negritos are the non colonial mentality culture

>>74941991
we literally have an entire terrorist group dedicated to that lol

>>74941991
how the fuck are muslims non colonial mentality when they are the retards that colonised a SMALL portion of the philippines and now they claim the whole country

fucking retarded terrorists need to die

>>74941977
get people to stop sucking international medias and be biased towards them
I.E. the americans
they are the reason why philippines turned into a shithole in the first place

why can't philippines make their own style and their own media?
>colonial mentality

>>74942099
Its non Hispanic influenced
Aside form religion they did preserve their non colonial mentality culture

>>74942099
America didn't make the Philippines shitty though.

>>74942099
It was japan during world war 2

We were actually very successful under the Americans but with the price of unfair trade rules.

>>74941801
Apperantly we are not allowed to have one unless we invent it.
Top kek

>>74942099
>why can't philippines make their own style and their own media?

What exactly would that look like to you anyway?

>>74942164
>Its non Hispanic influenced
hispanic, american, muslim, whatever, they are all colonial mentality
just because muslims they had their time in manila and mindanao does not make it theirs

why can't books be reformed to non-biased ones?

>>74942188
>>74942210
it is the americans
just ask the Katipunan and the rest of the people who sold the philippines to the americans


>>74942296
ask yourself that question, what can you make

>>74942355
This>>74941991
So now what?

>>74942381
>still arguing about muslims
OK, then tell me
ARE THEY ORIGINAL?
DID PH MAKE AND PROPAGATE THEM?
If the answer is no, then your opinion is retarded

>>74942355
>just because muslims they had their time in manila and mindanao does not make it theirs
No one is saying its their but they are still part of us for now

And they are the non colonial mentality culture aside from their religion

The non bias actually is acknowledging that there we're Muslims back then bit not everyone was

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>>74942424
Not their religion but their culture did

>>74942428
>they are still part of us for now
same thing goes for the Spanish, and both of them are classified as cancerous colonial mentality

>And they are the non colonial mentality culture aside from their religion
answer >>74942424

>>74942459
>culture
and we also have the Spanish culture. which is exactly the same position as the Muslim culture and pinoys suck their dicks that they ""were"" their ancestors when they weren't,
AGAIN
a minority does not represent the WHOLE COUNTRY
so that would be classified as some minority culture, but not the WHOLE PH culture

>>74942355
The kaptipuan will answer Spain and right full so
Meh at least Americans brought electricity kek
And the mountain tribes and muslims still region their culture during their occupation

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oY2szxw-Dr8

>>74935992
That actually looks good. Makes me hungry.

>>74942527
>Meh at least Americans brought electricity kek
not an excuse for having colonial mentality
and i'm not talking about what the economy is, refer back to culture and colonial mentality
no one cares if you have a smartphone or not
that's the result of trade and commerce

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>>74942526
>>74942465
Like you said they didn't spread islam.
And still even with Islam they still retain some of their tribal culture
They hate anyhring that's relates to Americans too

>>74942586
Well we hate Muslims as well so the feeling is mutual

>>74942465
>same thing goes for the Spanish
Because its western colonial and those culture destroyed ours

>>74942586
>our ancestors were rajas and datus when they were not
tell me, why do they do this? is this the result writers of being lazy about the philipine history? how did a minority get classified as the ""majority""?

>>74942614
that's because they were the MAJORITY, if muslims were the majority, then we'd blame them for destroying pinoy culture more than the spaniards
both still classify as colonial mentality as such that they weren't philippine OC, and they were only there as colonisers

>>74942526
>pinoys suck their dicks that they ""were"" their ancestors when they weren't,
>AGAIN
>a minority does not represent the WHOLE COUNTRY

No one is saying the whole country nor they were our ancestors

But its a non Hispanic culture non the less as well as the mountain tribes and negritos

Its a hard pill to swallow even more so knowing we have Hispanic influence

>>74942605
rule of planet earth: everyone hates everyone

that's how countries are made m8

>>74942572
Just saying.

Americans would have never come here if we weren't under the shitty spanish rule

reminder that flips are the most powerful race in the world.

>>74942626
Not every rajah or datu are muslims
We don't have records about them

>>74942673
>No one is saying the whole country nor they were our ancestors
YET, i CAN'T find anything that says that they weren't
all your history 700 years ago was about datus, rajas and shit when they are all fabrications
your books clearly are retarded
they need to be burnt down and reformed


>>74942698
americans wouldnt have come to the philippines if your traitors never existed and sold your country to America

>>74942660
Not really.

Since some by default but not all were already Muslims
Only their region is islamizied

>>74942725
>rajah or datu
>not muslim
now that's next level bullshitry there
where do you think that came from?
up ur mums bumhole?

>>74942772
Sounds Indian. And they were sailing around that area Before the Muslims got there

>>74942749
They were already coming since they want the Spanish territory including us.
With or without our revolution

We should have revolted against spain early pls don't mis inform

>>74942755
>Philippines made islam and were already muslims
OK
keep believing lies

>>74942793
don't think so
that would be trade, like China and Japan

>>74942772
Some were indianzied animist worshipers.


And we do have our local pantheon of gods

>>74942833
Yeah, migration through Malaysia and Indonesia and brunei

>>74942815
>We should have revolted against spain early
that would only make the PH seem like they were leaning more towards the spaniards and make them frontline in the wars while you're still sucking Spain's dick, being a slave

>>74942877
that would be wrong
the migration started from the north, not the south, through a landbridge back in the ice ages
that's why records show that almost all autronesian languages came from the north

>>74942935
They were many migration periods not just the iceage
We use boats

anyway why are we talking about the past? we should be talking about the future of the philippines and how we can reform the colonial mentality culture and literature

>>74942935
No, not really we should have revolted in the 16th and 17th century

>>74942772
Yeah you are retarded. Those terms are indian and were spread though that area because of a hindu kingdom based out of modern day Indonesia

>>74943004
>Philippines were POO IN LOO now
>literally no evidences of buddhism in PH
OK
then how is it that PH ancestors were called rajas and datus when they never even colonised PH?

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>>74942979
Convert the lowlanders to islam
And the rest its negrito tribal time
Oh yessss.


Stop teaching english
Destroy all the churches and their historical records and refurbish our old huts of worship
All around media blackout

>>74943114
i never said to destroy the benefits from trade and commerce
are you retarded?

>>74943073
Wew lad

>>74943073
Migrations and contacts with the other SEA nations

Its the cut off from settlers then to Spanish conquest

>>74943141
No you are. Are you by chance that guy who claimed that anything bad that is said about North Korea is lies and propaganda

>>74935740
This is fake.

Oh wait, it's /int/

LOL HASHEHAHAHEHe

>>74943141
We purify this god forsaken lands

>>74943158
that's the thing, there aren't any evidences of them colonising PH, but only went as far as trading, or else PH would be speaking indonesian and malay by now

>>74943176
stfu retard
stop speaking your retarded opinions anytime

>>74943192
Because they were settlers not colonizers.
Back then were were not the "philippines" yet
You have to look at it island per island

>>74943176
Top kek
Its a flip with a proxy that worships dutdut
And yes he probably will say that

>>74943213
Yeah okay nork boy.

>>74943256
>Because they were settlers not colonizers.
if they settled in the philippines then early filipinos would have been speaking malay and indonesian instead, not tagalog, cebuano or whatever that is

they are the same thing, one with a brutal force approach, and the other with a gentle one

>Australia talking about having a non colonial culture.

>>74943284
fuck off yellowtard
u think you're contributing to the country by ruining its reputation?

>>74943298
Who knows maybe they were back then we do sound a like.
I don't know about their languages but especially Indonesia the have lot of other dialects and languages aside from bahasa.
Then got isolated and developed seperatly in time

>>74943316
Dutertard confirmed top kek

Shit so this is how they think know

>>74943356
there are historical evidences that austronesian languages came from taiwan
so it might be that tagalog or cebuano is older than indonesian and malaysian languages

>>74943379
gtfo and kys yellowtard
go fuck a baby cunt

>>74943298
We might have if we were colonized by the Brits or Dutch

And possibly not all islands were occupied and the negritos stayed hidden in the moutinas.
The visayas at known to breed with their ati tribes

>>74943394
Again there we're many migration periods before spics arrived not just the early Austronesian ones
Island per island as well

So the same cunt who wants to reform Tagalog is a Dutertard?

What a shame.

>>74943477
luzon had the most kingdoms than any other, huangdoms, tondo, mai, palawan and all of that
kingdoms mean civilisation, and civilisation means influence, not being influenced

why do filipinos always think they were influenced not influencing? what if it was the other way around?

>>74943516
>yellowtard memes
drink bleach

>>74943525
Because we dont have evidence to back it up sadly
Ask Malaysians or Indonesia if they have records of us influencing them

I stayed in the Philippines for several months as a child and I remember watching this black and white show about winged people most nights with the locals, can any flips confirm my nostalgia? I also have vivid memories of a possibly non flip comedy movie where two guys get in a fight at a small shop, and at some point get thrown into a river and get crabs in their pants.

>>74943516
Cringy to and slightly evil since
Dutertads tend to be visayans and Mindanao peoples

>>74935394
>>74935436


>Filipinos want to desert THIS

>>74943591
true that it needs more evidence
but most of the evidence were either destroyed by spain or lost in history because of colonisation
we need more filipino researchers and archaeologists

>>74943620
Its actually really hard to maintain
Unless its privately owned so the workers can have benefits but that still depends on the owner.

>>74943620
>>74943676
i've seen a show where the locals were sad because everyone was going to manila instead of preserving the terraces

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This thread has been entirely useless in discussing Philippine history.
If you want a good starting point just view the Boxer Codex and Baybayin

Boxer Codex: http://webapp1.dlib.indiana.edu/metsnav3/general/index.html#mets=http%3A%2F%2Fpurl.dlib.indiana.edu%2Fiudl%2Fgeneral%2Fmets%2FVAB8326&page=1

Baybayin:
http://www.ancientscripts.com/tagalog.html

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Philippines never dissapoints

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This is the phillipines original cuisine, pagpag™. umà delicià

>>74936551
>Half-Flip
same, I haven't been although my siblings have, looks decent.

>>74940121
>>74940277
flip hapa, how hard is it to get into movies/acting in the Philippines as someone who is half white?

>that retarded roo denier.
Typical colonist.

>>74935922
>minecraft.jpg

>>74943921
Holy fuck
Is there a more uncivilised race?

>>74940830
Pissing off the Americans by bringing up shitty things that happened long ago then sucking up to China island-stealers doesn't mean he doesn't have colonial mentality.

>>74935394
looks like minecraft world

sorry for colonizing you for 30 years

>>74935394

Too bad all those fields smell like shit.

And I mean literal faeces.

Holy shit I woke up and you guys are still at it?

>Australia and USA talking shit about colonized mentality
I hope you're abos and native americans wearing grass skirts or something, don't want that white man colonization to soil your land.

I mean, one thing is to criticize the little effort put into cultural production, another is to say it should be "pure". The examples of prosperity mentioned here (Korea and Japan, for instance) are all copying Western society to a degree, so this is not the problem.

Good thread

Ah, so THIS is the beauty of Filipino cuisine

Breathtaking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-PKO2FrdPY

What Minecraft mod is this?

>>74951683
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAJ

>>74935436
>>74935394
wtf like Yemen
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/18533879.jpg

>>74944623
Its worth a visit. There's a lot of sharp contrasts but overall would visit again and again.
>>74941085
>>74941779
Sorry for all that, that wasn't what I was going for and I worded my posts rather badly.

Looks like Minecraft lel

>>74943181
Someone edited the wiki. It was still pretty bad though.becauss Chinese casualties were 500 and the other numbers are correct.

>>74935425
how much do they cost. how prevalent is hiv and the likes?

>>74943772
>this thread
>entirely useless

Hey shut the fuck up bitch. This thread has done more to improve the image of the Philippines than all the combined efforts of the Filipino government during the last 30 years.

>>74935694
WHAT ARE YA DOING IN MY SWAMP

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22KB, 300x400px

>>74941085
Convert to Islam anon, you'll be joining the Malay-Indo cultural sphere

>>74952362
>>74954825
Ahhh, so THESE are the 16 years old of /int/. Bazinga!

>>74935694
SOMEBODY