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>his country doesn't have a national epic

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>his country doesn't have a national epic
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you mean national epic... meme ?XX?X?OFSEDKFDS;D:S:DS
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>>74910599
Cultural national wonder. Requires a Monument in all cities.

+25% Great People generation in this City.
Contains 1 Great Work of Writing slot
BNW-only+1 20xHappiness5 Happiness with Universal Healthcare tenet (any Ideology)
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>>74910576
i can already smell the angry swedes coming to this thread
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>>74910576
>his national epic was written by a Swede
Oh Finland.
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>swedish national epic
quran and bible XDDD
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>>74910655
>>74910658
whew
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>>74910658
>written
COMPILED and edited, Sven. All the poems and songs are Finnish reeeeeee
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>>74910658
>His true passion lay in his native Finnish language. He began writing about the early Finnish language in 1827 and began collecting folk tales from rural people about that time. In 1831, the Finnish Literature Society was founded, and Lönnrot, being one of the founder members, received financial support from the society for his collecting efforts.[2]

>Be a noble fennoswede
>like another language more and adopt it
>Promote this said language and advice your colleques to do so aswell as well to change their names.

It's sad that swedes are this eager to throw away their own heritage, well who am i kidding it's not sad at all.
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>>74910988
>his native Finnish language
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>>74911076
Well yeah, Lönnrot's family can be traced back to the very oldest finnish merchant families who kept or took actual finnish surnames.

Tolpo and Niska.
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>>74910988
>be finnish
>culture is based around a bunch of confused Swedish academics LARPING as tribesmen
>still have to learn Swedish därför att bättre folk talar Svenska
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>>74911311
Come again? I don't speak shitty languages with zero artistic value. And ask yourself, why did those "swedish" academics proceed to create their art in finnish and not in "bättre folk pratar"? Hmm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS_U1C3MGc8
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>>74910576
>parts of his country's national epic weren't used in a bideo game
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>>74911693
>Parts of his country's epic weren't used in Tolkien's works
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>>74911660
>Svenskar äro vi inte längre, ryssar vilja vi inte bli, låt oss alltså bli finnar
>finsk kultur är ett artificiellt påhitt som användes som plan B när man inte längre kunde gå tillbaka till att vara svenskar
Detta går verkligen inte att hitta på.
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>>74911831
Tän tason liipaistumista saa vain ruotsalaisista pojat.
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>>74911784
intredasting
which ones though?
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>>74911831
>it's a butthurt and ignorant swede screeching about how "superior" he is episode
Funny how things turned out in the end
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>>74911879
t. Svenska i förnekelse
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>>74911938
Pretty sure I'm neither butthurt nor talking about superioity, I'm simply pointing out that you are a bunch of roleplayers identifying yourself with karelian fairy tales.
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>>74911936
Quenya, Some parts of Gandalf, Tom Bombadil and the elvish "singing magic"
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>>74910988
He looks... swarthy!?!
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>>74912014
>appreciation of your people's ancient folklore and mythology
>hurrr larpers
mindset of a swede everybody
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>>74912082
Eino Leino?

Yeah when he was young he looked quite swarthy
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>it's a f*nn thread
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>>74912107
>taking the folklore of a people that doesn't even live inside your pseudonation
>we wuz kullevro and shit
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>>74912125
I tought swedes/finns were tanned because of tanning beds...
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>>74912153
Most of the stories were collected in Finnish karelia and karelians weren't even a separated thing till USSR time, when political realities created a need for their own identity.

They were a southeastern finnish tribe until russian resettlement and slavification.

I don't really know why i'm explaining myself to some mouthing idiot. But whatever. Also the folktales share huge similarities on all areas, they were just most intact in the most eastern parts of Finland where all the runesingers and "knowers" fled during the time when swedish crown forbid those practises in 1700-1809
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>>74912231
He did a lot of menial labor and worked in slash and burn farms when young so that may give him a bit rough look.
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>>74910658
>Oh Finland.
You should go get Finland back so its part of Sweden again like it was for 600 years
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>>74910576
>his national epic is not about killing moors
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>>74912254
Maybe you should just come to terms with the fact that you are a swedicised rape baby and stop being so defensive about your made up nationality.
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>>74912140
kys u useless leaf
>>74912306
emustralia should go back to its roots and be turned into a prison colony where we dump all of our mudslimes and niggers
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Best ebic
https://youtu.be/qkUVToIfrKg

>>74912281
He looks manly, desu
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Sweden! One of your territories is talking to me, make him stop
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>>74910576
I remember being annoying when I had to read it back in school.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judita
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>>74912383
Sheesh, well I guess I'd be pretty fucking defensive and insecure if I came from the belgium of the north.
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>>74912473
never reply to me ever again
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>>74912368
It's been hundreds of years, why are you still so bitter?
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>>74912497
Whatever you say my fellow countryman.
>>74912503
Yes, obviously I'm extremely bitter.
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>>74912306
With what army?
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>>74912678
The fifth column that owns your entire country perhaps?
Don't worry you'll be tolerant citizens of the new nation in no time.
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>>74912741
Sure.
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>>74912774
She's an ethnic finn actually, oh wait there is no such thing.
She's just a larper like the rest of you lot I guess.
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>>74912869
I think you have bigger things to worry about than those pesky Finns.
Tell me when the cleansing starts and I'll be there.
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>>74912984
>those pesky finns
There is no such thing as a"finn" my friend.
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>>74913049
North Eastern Swedes?
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>>74913092
This man gets it.
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>>74911936
Turin Turambar's story is a straight up retelling of the fall of Kullervo
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>>74912014
Not roleplayers, most Finns don't cluster close to Swedes on PCA plots. Hell, even Germans are closer to you.
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>>74912368
>a swedicised rape baby
Next level psychosis
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we do tho

but I'm not telling
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>>74910576
Is the Finnish the kalevala difficult to understand?
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>>74913165
Karelia is Russian though
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>>74914395
nice meme zhang t. karelian
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>>74914395
Go bait someone else's threads for once, please. you're waste of air and space.
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>>74914374
Modern editions come with instructions for Finns on how to read it, so yes
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>>74910576
>mfw we have several of them
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>>74914374
it's relatively understandable, there is some long unused terminology but the context is generally clear enough. easier if you've grown up around people who speak thick dialects i guess. being a compilation of poems it says stuff in a convoluted manner too of course.
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>>74914395
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>>74914374
And to add it loses a lot of meaning when translated to English.

Mostly due to the poem like structure and archaic wording.

Granted most of them are to be sung as "spells" the practise died out in the late 60s

There's thousands upon thousands of spells and incantations in the mythology. From as simple things as getting it up for bedroom to incantations about the creation of the world and word.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvxun84kTLI
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>>74914747
I read a chunk of it in English and much like "The Unknown Soldier" it's interesting but you're spot on, you can tell something has been lost in translation.
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I want to read Kalevala but I can't find a Swedish translation of it
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>>74914908
The problem with Unknown soldier is you have to know about the status of Finland during that time and what kind of people they where when someone acted somehow uniquely.

If you wan't good finnish literature read Waltari's Sinuhe - Egyptian


>>74914975
Atleast 6 different parties have translated it from 1800s to 1999 being latest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kalevala_translations
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>>74914255
>confirming autistic roleplayers have no relation to karelians
Did you even look at that map halowarrior?
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>>74915210
But they do, if they didn't they would be in the same cluster with Swedes due to shared Paleo-European blood. But the fact of the matter is that they have mostly Finnic blood, and are therefore related to Karelians.
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>>74915033
I'll check it out. What I was told was one of the more interesting parts of the The Unknown Soldier is how he did the dialects. They try to do it in the English version but again it's just missing something. Still, I'm grateful someone did a translation as it'll be a long time till I can read it in Finnish.
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>>74915306
Stop stealing other peoples folk legends you rootless kangz.
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>>74910576
>mfw no national epic will never be half as good as ours
>written by an ex-soldire that lost his eye fighting filthy moors
>he was a pussy master
>using greek mithology in the epic
>talking about our glorious empire and explorers
>and its all in perfect rhyme
how do other nations even compete?
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>>74914297
>I-i'm not a Swedish rape baby
>the idea of the finnish nation as first proposed by Swedish officers who where angry about the monarchy
Pathetic.
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>>74915390
not even epic
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>>74910576
>mfw Kalevala is karellian and not finnish
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>>74915369
>>74915441
Here are some (You)s, feel better now?
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>>74915441
But it's a fact, most Finns have no Swedish blood at all.
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>>74915355
Yeah that's the main problem. There's a whole lot of Dialects that are pretty important to feel of it.

It's like you'd base a book on British soldiers on say ww2 and then translate it to france, how you're supposed to translate the dialects and accents through?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zqKUyb-_WY
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>>74915441
monarchies are for cucks tho, and those were finns, why else would they start to identify as finns? shit wasn't just some made up meme you know.
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>>74914456
I'm sorry
I lost my car keys once and it was pretty bad. Not as bad as losing an entire chunk of land and then having it fill up with Russians.
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>>74915369
What do you mean steal? We're literally the same people.
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>>74915559
You also lost to an emus.

That's something for the historybooks.

>Start a war
>Against animals
>Lose
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>>74915559
t. neighbour of an emu, aboriginal and chink
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>>74915441
>>the idea of the finnish nation as first proposed by Swedish officers who where angry about the monarchy
That had nothing to do with Pan-Finnicist nationalist sentiment of the autonomous era, therefore it wouldn't have really been Finland.
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>>74915531
The truth hurts I guess, is this why so many finns get depressed?
>>74915533
You're still a country of rootless roleplayers with a national identity based around dressing up in knock off kippahs, you can get raped in more ways than one.
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>>74915702
And your national identity is based on larping horned rapists and looking up to them, whilst kissing the ass of an obsolete monarchy ruled by a french guy with half brazilian wife.

Shall i go on, i got plenty more. Or will you just fucking leave?
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>>74915555
Except the anjala men where all Swedish nobility and didn't receive any support from the finnish peasant.
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>>74915745
where?
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>>74915702
You're not really in a position to talk shit about rape. Keep in mind what country you live in
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>>74915587
>Start a war
>Against communists
>Lose

See, this wouldn't have happened if you where Swedish, the Russians dont fuck with Swedes because they got their arse torn apart last time they tried that
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>>74915792
hes the jewish crossdresser guy isn't he?
why else would he bring out kippahs out of nowhere?
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>>74915745
Of course they didn't they were just other bunch of disgruntled nobility looking for sway in power.

Most people grieved in 1809 but only 3 years later people were cheering for Russian empire.

Your state was a pisspoor example of everything and i pray to god for the subjects that were left under it for the rest of late enlightenment era.
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>>74915702
What is this truth you're so hellbent in pursuing? We're a Finnic people in blood and spirit. Karelians had best preserved the folk tales of old since they were most Eastern, therefore Swedes weren't there to destroy their heritage and culture like they did that of West Finns. And those mythological elements are found amongst all Finnic people, so no, it is not larping.
>You're still a country of rootless roleplayers
Define "rootless", in this context. Embracing our roots is how we became independent, remaining Swedish and pretending to be Germanic would've been larping of the highest degree.
>>74915745
Anjala conspiracy didn't have shit to do with Pan-Finnicist nationalism, like I stated. Therefore it is in no way comparable to the real independence movement of the Tsarist Era.

Do us all a favor and stop posting, you'll save yourself from further embarrassment.
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>>74915668
By this logic finland is not finland since you have long abandoned pan-finnicism.
>>74915744
The difference here is that we are actually descended from the people in question.
>>74915790
>finnish education
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>>74915836
he's autist or just taking the piss

probably both
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>>74915829
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See, this wouldn't have happened if you where Swedish, the Russians dont fuck with Swedes because they got their arse torn apart last time they tried that


The last war swedes had against russians they lost us and the war before that they sent almost all of their army to freeze in russia whilst getting their king killed.

Shiggy diggy we've had better success against Russians in our wars than they've had in the last 300 years.
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>>74915862
t. swede who cant write simple comprehensible english
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>>74915862
>By this logic finland is not finland since you have long abandoned pan-finnicism.
No we haven't, without Pan-Finnicism we'd be Swedish-speaking right now and part of Sweden.
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>>74915862
How so? I'm Karelian btw. As almost all of them evacuated from Karelia during the wars. Total number being around 800 000
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>>74915836
I have no fucking idea about what the ridiculous skullcaps you people wear are called.
>>74915792
I'll have to remind you that we are an actual nationality.
>>74915850
Except it was the first time anyone did the mistake of imagining a finnish nation, wish is quite pathetic for you since the people doing the mistake where a bunch of disgruntled Swedes.
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>>74915829
>the Russians dont fuck with Swedes because they got their arse torn apart last time they tried that
And yet Russia went on to become a global superpower, Sweden got so thoroughly BTFO they never recovered and have been pacifist cucks since.
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finns stop getting butthurt so easily, he's clearly baiting for (you)
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>>74915994
Yes but it's nice to give him something to go off, He's mouthing off pretty badly as it is, let's see how deep does the rabbithole go.
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>>74915949
>Except it was the first time anyone did the mistake of imagining a finnish nation
But it wouldn't have been a Finnish country without the promotion and empowerment of Finnic language and culture, which Swedes never did.
>wish is quite pathetic for you since the people doing the mistake where a bunch of disgruntled Swedes.
Anjala conspiracy had nothing to do with later Finnish nationalism, the former sought to maintain the rights of a disgruntled elite whilst the latter sought to empower an oppressed people. So your claim is baseless.
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>>74915892
>>74915924
Then how come the republic of "Fin"land isn' claiming estonia, karelia, tårnedalen and ingria as it's sovereign territory?
Oh, wait because the few "finns" who ever embraced the idea of a greater Finland got shut up after the continuation war.
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>>74915994
so?
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>>74916050
We ain't going to war with russia over some clay
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>>74916050
Estonians have been separate from Finns for thousands of years

I think half of Karelia is already part of Finland. The rest of Karelia and Ingria cannot be reclaimed because Russia is too powerful

Tornedalen is part of Sweden, which is an ally to Finland and since the people there aren't opressed by Swedes there is really no reason to annex it
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>>74916047
>claimed to negotiate in the name of the Finnish nation
>But you see it wouldn't have been a finnish nation
This is of course just an example of how everything worthy of note accomplished in finland was actually done by a Swede.
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>>74916050
With Pan-Finnicism in this context I meant the empowerment of Finnic language and culture in Finland, not the Greater Finland ideology which it later inspired.
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>>74916050
Greater Finland was a meme imposed by few right wingists and germans during continuation war. The general populace only Wanted pre 39' borders back and that's where we stopped our general offensive to begin with.

But given it had lived on and germans would've won. You'd probably face either secession of Land to us or war with Germany.
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>>74916166
>>claimed to negotiate in the name of the Finnish nation
Unless you can prove that Anjala conspirators sought to empower Finnic language and culture instead of preserving their own privileges (since they knew Sweden was going to lose against Russia), then your claim would hold some substance. Otherwise it's just more baseless bullshit from your end.
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>>74916247
Don't you want Viborg back though?
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>>74916353
You should work on your reading comprehension.

t. other
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>>74916353
You're practically asking do i wan't just bombed hiroshima under my control where i'd have to pay for it's restoration.

No. It would almost crash Russian economy and it would destroy us.
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>>74916168
And you empower the finnish language in finland and culture by bringing in folk tales from the Karelians? How far would you go with this, would you bring in customs form the Mordvins, the Chud or the Sami?
>>74916297
Tell me, how do you propose that the ywould have preserved something that does not exist?
Would they have done like the later Swedish LARPers and steal a national identity from the karelians?
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>>74915882
>The last war swedes had against russians they lost us

Well that was careless of them. I mean, if I owned some Finn's I wouldn't have lost them
So, you're not Swedish, but actually Russians.

I bet this is Norway's fault.
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>>74916444
What the fuck are you on someone already told you this earlier but Karelians were just another tribe of FINNS living in FINLAND until the secession of isthmus.

Can you read a single fucking sentence?


>>74916496
Cyka you got me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEAIqR89oHU
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>>74916401
Just kick out all the ruskies, demolish the buildings that are too damaged and renovate the rest. Before you know it you have a thriving new Finnish city
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>>74916297
>they knew sweden was going to lose
>Sweden sinks the entire russian navy and Russia loses it's right to interfere with the internal politics of Sweden
>lose
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>his country only has one
Turbopleb
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>>74916552
You'd change your mind if you'd been in there.

Just go and have a look in google maps or something.

Russians manage to turn the most beautiful things to total nuclear waste in record time.
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>>74912125
He looked like an actual chink.
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>>74916545
Have you ever read a book my LARPING friend?
When the first Swedish roleplayers started stealing fairy tales the karelians where practically a dead people.
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this is the "man" that triggers finns right now
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Best national epic reporting in
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>>74916681
>>74915836
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>>74916663
Kek what? There's still karelians living on both side of the borders.
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>>74916681
It's not my fault the autistic Asiatic hordes get upset by the fact that l Elias Lönnrot was a Swede.
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>>74916444
>And you empower the finnish language in finland and culture by bringing in folk tales from the Karelians
Karelians are Finns, retard.
>How far would you go with this, would you bring in customs form the Mordvins, the Chud or the Sami
Only one of those tribes is Finnic, and had already gone extinct by the 18th century. But no, only from fellow Finnics since we have a fairly recent common origin, with a common faith and customs (until Swedes came).
>>74916444
>Tell me, how do you propose that the ywould have preserved something that does not exist
Finnic culture and language did exist, if it didn't we wouldn't be here.
>Would they have done like the later Swedish LARPers and steal a national identity from the karelians
Karelians are a Finnish tribe that lived within Finland's borders at the time.
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>>74916740
There are a hundred thousand karelians left, most of them russified.
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>this kills the finns nationality and pride and makes them into autism spergs
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>>74916592
>>74915956
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>>74916833
Men herre gud din mongolid, vi talar om Gustav den tredjes ryska krig.
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>>74916814
It doesn't kill national pride, it does seem to greatly upset Swedes though that they didn't manage to eradicate Finnic language and culture.
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>>74910576
we do, the beautiful Chanson de Roland
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>>74916813
Yup. If you hear a Finn speaking "karelian" a finn understands it 100%, but if a person from the republic of karelia would speak to you the accent is so heavily slavified you need to actually think what they're saying.
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>>74916894
>Swedes
>plural
it's just one guy
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>>74916890
Anjala conspirators knew you would ultimately cave in, and they were right :^)
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>>74916967
We have nazi but I've never seen them hate on Finns
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>>74916761
>the modern "finnish" nation is made up of tavastians and an assortment of swedish rape babies from Finland proper and ostrobothnia
>after centuries of Swedish rule they have lost their culture and swedish is the most spoken language
>in order to make them finns the fennomans have to go to the karelians and steal a bunch of fairy tales
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>>74912774
She has a face like she just signed away my reproductive rights
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>>74916967
Yes we're evil, muhahahahah
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this thread is not what I expected
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>>74917060
You talk a lot about swedish rape babies but how? I mean swedish was never even close to a majority language here, it was at it's prime spoken by 15% of the population. now only 5,5% and dropping every year.

Does your blood boil? Do you squirm like the little worm you are? good. Give it 10-20 years and the digit's gonna hit 0%.
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>>74917060
>>the modern "finnish" nation is made up of tavastians and an assortment of swedish rape babies
You've already been proven wrong, >>74915583
Those less purple spots (Satakunta and Ostrobothnia) have a combined population of only like 400,000 people. Besides, their Paleo-European heritage has naught to do with Swedes.
>>after centuries of Swedish rule they have lost their culture and swedish is the most spoken language
Swedish was never the most spoken language, it was 16% at its peak.
>>in order to make them finns the fennomans have to go to the karelians and steal a bunch of fairy tales
No, most Finns have always spoken Finnish. Also Karelians are Finns just like every other Finnic tribe here, so you making a distinction between them and the rest only proves that you're a clueless retard.
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>>74917157
wtf dude what did fennoswedes ever do to you?
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>>74917245
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WE WUZ HOMER
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>>74917245
>>74917264
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>>74917157
>>74917233
I say an assortment of Swedish rape babies because I have no idea of which tribes lived there before it came under Swedish dominion.
Do you? And if you do why didn't you base your culture around your actual ancestors instead of another people?
>>74917264
>immigrate to a country
>WHAAAAH WHY DO WE HAVE TO ASSIMILATE?
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>>74917388
Because Kalevala is not based on Karelian it's an assortment of stories that survived most intact in Karelia as i scrolled the thread someone had already said. Why do you ask saem questions multiple times when given clear answers? Oh yeah i almost forgot you're just havin a giggle
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>>74917309
>Swede of old German stock born in finland
>ethnic finn
So this is the power of finnish delusion.
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>>74917459
Where does it even say so?

Check your classes.
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>>74917264
Yeah the Swedish government is retarded, it has been that way for a long time now. Doesn't mean you should stamp out Fennoswedish

In my opinion Fennoswedish sounds better than most standard Swedish accents. It also contains old elements that we have lost, do you really want that to disappear?
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>>74917494
>swedish speaking finnish philologist
>>74917453
And you assume that these legends would existed in the same shape or at all among the finnish tribes you hail from?
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>>74917526
>It also contains old elements that we have lost
It's diarrhea with a Finnish accent.
>do you really want that to disappear
Yes, the sooner the better.
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>>74917526
We're not stamping it out desu. It's one of the most protected linquistic groups in the world and it still manages to die.

Just goes to show how people feel about it i guess.

>>74917566
All fennoswedes identify as "swedish speaking finn" you utter moron

As to what comes to the latter yes, they are practically the same. The stories were just most cohesive in karelia as it was the most rural area where civilization got slowly. Bloody hell even Samis practised the same religion and stories and estonians too. there's tons grounds to gather the mythology from but you cling to Karelia part like a illitirate child that has to be repeated the same thing 10 times and slapped on the cheek so he finally understands.

Go check your mental status i hope they come to more striking conclusions than i ever could.
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>>74917388
>I say an assortment of Swedish rape babies because I have no idea of which tribes lived there before it came under Swedish dominion
Your retardation becomes more evident with each post you make.
>Do you
Yes: Sums, Tavastians, Kvens and Karelians.
>And if you do why didn't you base your culture around your actual ancestors instead of another people
They're not other people, they're our kin. Also Gothicism was a thing in Sweden even though the Svear are the core Swedish tribe, so to speak. But since you're a hypocrite you of course neglect to mention such details :^)
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>>74917653
>It's diarrhea with a Finnish accent
Not really. It's what Swedish used to sound like.

There's a tiny community of Swedish speakers in Ukraine called Gammalsvenskby. They moved down there 200 years ago and their Swedish sounds similar to Fennoswedish. Also if you listen to Icelandic you can hear similiarities as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v641uRBW9_4
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>>74917676
Freudenthal was German you absolute fucking retard, you are not in a position to comment on anyone else mental capacity if you fly into a fit of autistic rage over bait this obvious, and neither is>>74917800
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>>74917879
>Not really. It's what Swedish used to sound like.
That's just your own psychosis, Fennoswedish is literally Swedish with a Finnic accent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJlJZOQICME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl-fDQPRUQA
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>>74911784
True story, Tolkien claimed the purpose of the LotR universe was that he wanted England to have its own folklore.
It's kind of interesting to imagine that being how it's seen a few centuries from now.
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>>74917962
>I was just pretending :^))))))))
I'm going to enjoy your upcoming genocide to the full.
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>>74918021
Like I said earlier, it's not my fault you are incredibly insecure and enormously autistic.
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We got Heimskringla, a collection of stories about our old kings, written by the guy who wrote down stuff from Norse Mythology
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>>74918080
I'm not going to take it lightly when somebody shamelessly insults my country and its foundations, nobody with a backbone will. Swedes don't know what it's like to have a spine, though, so explaining this is pointless.
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>>74918128
The stories are about Swedish and Norwegian kings, but it's written by an Icelander
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>>74918217
Heimskringla focuses on the Norwegian ones though

>Heimskringla is a collection of sagas about the Norwegian kings, beginning with the saga of the legendary Swedish dynasty of the Ynglings, followed by accounts of historical Norwegian rulers from Harald Fairhair of the 9th century up to the death of the pretender Eystein Meyla in 1177.
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>>74917962
Yes but that's how they identify themselves, i don't care if he was a martian. it doesn't nowwhere proclaim he's an ethnic finn.

You're the one getting uppity about half a dozen things you know shit about to begin with.
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>>74918195
Elias Lönnrot was a Swede and so was Gustav Mannerheim.
And by the way, having autistic fits and screaming on the internet does not equate having a spine.
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>>74918195
>Swedes don't know what it's like to have a spine
*tips*
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>>74918596
>Elias Lönnrot was a swede

Guess again. As to mannerheim, as he'd like to consider himself he was a finnish patriot with high admirability to the Russian empire. Actually he's affection for Russia hindered military operations more than just few times.
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>>74918682
>born to Fredrik Johan Lönnrot and Ulrika Wahlberg
>Finnish wasn't his first language
If this is what you count as a 100% pure ethnic finn I'm not sue what to say.
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>>74918596
>Elias Lönnrot was a Swede and so was Gustav Mannerheim
No they weren't.
>And by the way, having autistic fits and screaming on the internet does not equate having a spine.
Refuting your baseless claims does not equate to screaming or having a fit. And maybe not on its own, but defending your people's honor is an aspect of having a spine; one which Swedes seem to lack.
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>>74918598
You don't.
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>>74918930
Most Fennoswedes were Finns who shifted their language and changed their names to climb up the social ladder in a society that was anti-Finnish; Finnish speakers had no rights. Even the Westernmost Fennoswedes in their fully Swedish-speaking villages are 60% Finnish.
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>>74919106
>Most Fennoswedes were Finns who shifted their language and changed their names to climb up the social ladder

uhu
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>>74918995
It's hard to tell from the blurry pic but it looks like he's wearing Sami clothes?
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>>74919135
No, just your average Swede.
>>74919127
Had that not been the case more than >5% of our paternal lineages could be traced to Swedes, but at their peak Swedish speakers made up 16% of the population.
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