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Are portuguese moors?

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Are portuguese moors?
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they're just fucking pieces of shit
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t. Sopa de macaco
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>>74787437
But they are still your fathers
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>>74787368

No, the moors invaded Sicily, it was another kind of peoples went to Spain etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_admixture_in_Europe#Admixture
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>>74787368
Iberians as a whole are a lesser race compared to every other Western European meta-ethnicity. No wonder every single one of their former colonies turned into dysfunctional shitholes.

Portugal in particular has worse development rates than Poland, a nation that was under communist rulership for decades and had many of its major cities destroyed by war, while Portugal had one of the largest colonies in the New World, an unimaginable amount of resources available, wasn't bombed to extinction in the 20th century, and basically had all the advantages to become one of the most remarkable nations on Earth today and still managed to become a shithole regardless.

The British on the other hand managed to create not only 1 exceptionally prosperous nation in the New World, but 4, one of them being The most powerful nation on Earth, despite having considerably less resources available compared to Latin America.

If that isn't enough proof of the racial inferiority of the Iberians I honestly don't know what is.
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>>74787368

the pope doesnt visit moors so no
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>>74788294
>That individualism map
Wtf
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>>74788294
shut up
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>>74788294
Jeez mate, we soooooorry.
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>>74787437
very rude
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>>74788294
>autism maps
>autism posts
>race obsession
you should go out more
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>>74796128
why is a disgusting spanish quoting me guys? Is it contagious?
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>>74788294
>trash talk
>wasn't bombed to extinction in the 20th century,
>more trash talk

What if you go study your father's country and understand what was going on during the early-mid section of the 20th century, zuca de merda com mania de inferioridade?
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>>74787368
No but Swedish surely are
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>>74796802
No need to project. I'm not an Iberian and I'm not quite a self-hater for that matter. On the contrary. And the only remotely livable places in Latin America are exactly those that received more non-Iberian European influence.

Both Portugal and Spain have the lowest development rates in Western Europe and are parasite states in the EU. The states in Brazil that received most Portuguese influence are also the biggest parasites within the federation and have the lowest development rates.

Iberians are an inferior race of Europeans and that's a fact, whether you agree with that or not it's an undeniable reality.
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>>74788294
You're welcome brazuca
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>>74797646
I am Iberian non iberians are trash.
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I SWEAR TO GOD I WILL KILL WHOEVERS BULLIES PORTUGAL
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>>74787368
no, Portuguese are Irish
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>>74797646
t. Adolfo Nuremberg de Garibaldi
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>>74797646
>Tfw former colonies jealous of your whiteness
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>>74802591
look at all those ingredients
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>>74802622
Uma delicia
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>>74802591
Iberians are an inferior race, you have literally nothing worth being jealous for. Brazilians are subhumans mainly because they're a product of your low IQ and lack of decency, and despite that hundreds of thousands of Portuguese migrate to Brazil looking for jobs. You unironically need your former debauchery colony in order to prosper. That's your certificate of failure as a race.

See >>74788294

It's hilarious to see Iberians mocking Latin America when Latin America is literally proof of your inferiority as a race. Anglos/Saxons have everything to be proud of for the powerful colonies they created. Iberians never created anything remarkably good throughout their entire existence, despite all the odds favouring them.
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>>74803452
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>>74803978
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>Portuguese """"""""""""white"""""""""""" nationalists
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Should I?
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>>74804427
should you what?
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>>74804745
Should I go for it, I mean. I have the roots and the ability to prove them.
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>>74804912
I think foreigners who own property and live here at least half a year every year don't pay taxes on said property
This is what you wanted to hear right?
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>>74805075
>property
Let's start with having one in my own country I guess
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>>74788294
Not all Iberian colonies turned into dysfunctional shitholes, just the ones with niggers. Real Portuguese colonies like the Azores and Madeira are better than any Brazilian state in question of quality of life. Of course the difference between say, the US and Brazil is that 2/3 of their population doesn't have nigger/injun blood, unlike Brazilians. That's because they were colonizing places with a way larger population than we were and they didn't have to rely on breeding with the locals.

Poland has greater growth than Portugal because they joined the E.U. just a couple years ago. Their level of European gibs me dat is still high because of that. Growth doesn't mean anything if you're not comparing countries in similiar situation. If you give Ethiopia a couple of billions and give Portugal a couple of billions, Ethiopia's growth rate would obviously be way better than Portugal's simply because they are going from 0 to something.

Portugal is in no way, shape or form a "shithole". Its HDI is very high and despite the crisis and austerity measures, has not declined, while many western nations like the Netherlands, and Sweden it has declined.

Portugal has the 17th largest gold reserve in the world and we don't like to touch them.

The Brits are good lads, their population being more than 4x Portugal's at all times, it's either questionable wether Portugal didnt do good enough, or if Brits could've done more.

We had the longest lived colonial empire, being the least populous western european country at the time.

>>74797646
>the states that received most Portuguese influence are also the biggest parasites within the federation and have the lowest development rates.
States with just Portuguese/other European influence and less nigger influence are the most developed in Brazil. Its niggers/injuns the problem. In any colony.

Iberian is not a race and that's a fact.
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For us, "moor" or mouro refers to anyone that's a muslims.

North african? Moor.
Arab? Moor.
Sudanese? Moor.
Indonesian? That's a moor too.
Converted Swede? Guess what. That's a moor.

For Sweden I think the word would fall more under North African/Arab.
Well, whatever the case, the answer is no, Portguese are not moors because they don't fit the definition of either.
Genetic studies show that Portuguese have a percentage of semitic blood which would be explained by the assimilation of the some part of the Jewish Sephardic population. After the reconquista, the muslims were expelled from Portugal, but the Jews were not, as long as they converted and stopped doing Jew stuff.
"North African" blood has always been present in Iberia. And I say "north african" because some of the places with no muslim influence in northern Iberia show more ammount of said blood than some southern parts of the peninsula which means that "north african blood" before the arrival of Indo-Europeans could've been as much Iberian as north african.

>>74803452
Portuguese people migrate anywhere and everywhere. From developed to shithole.
Don't feel special because of that.

Also, Rio was more developed than Lisbon when Brazil was part of Portugal. Its decline came after independence, so don't blame the shortcomings of Brazil on Portuguese. Brazil's failure is the sole certificate of Brazilian failure.
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>>74806630
Anglos/Saxons are superior to Iberians in every imaginable way, and that's not even up to debate.

Anglo nations as young as Australia and New Zealand far surpass Portugal and Spain. The United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and even the isolated Falkland Islands became prosperous British territories because Anglos/Saxons have higher IQs and superior work ethics compared to Iberians. Iberian people and their decisions created Latin America. British people and their decisions created the Anglosphere. That's an obvious fact.

The Portuguese even violated the Tordesillas Treaty just so they could hoard more precious metals, despite leaving a trail of failed settlements behind, completely forgotten by Portugal. And despite that, Portugal today is still a shithole by Western European standards. Low IQ people will always make bad decisions, even when they win a lottery game like Portugal did. They'll eventually make stupid choices and go back to being poor.

And the Polish are definitely putting their EU investments to good use, unlike Portugal. Poland has the fastest growing national industry and scores among the highest on PISA, despite their countless historic disadvantages. Portugal won the lottery game and remains a failed parasite state in the EU regardless.
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>>74788294
Watch out my sopa eating friend, here come the iberians roleplaying as romans and greeks.
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>>74806630
olha o cara para quem tu estás dando YOUS
Ele se acha alemão com essa cara mas é um índio misturado da porra
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>>74808869
El caxias seniores
>>74808554
>>74808554
>>74804080
>>74803978
>>74803850
>>74803715
>>74803559
>>74803452
>>74797646
>>74788294
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>>74806630
90% of Chileans have amerindian blood and they still better than Portugal. The portuguese blood and portuguese culture are the real problem of Brazil.
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>>74809377
Chileans inherited Prussian values, but their low average IQ will always keep them behind the development line for a legitimately developed nation. The poorest Southern Brazilian state is still on par with Chile, despite losing over 80% of its GDP to the Brazilian federal government.

And the Problem with Brazil isn't only the Iberian genes, but mostly the sub-Saharan African genes and the violent behaviour that came with it, as the African slaves brought to Brazil by the Portuguese weren't merely the average sub-Saharan Africans, but criminals who were already slaves in Africa. Brazil received some of the worst the world has to offer, it's really no wonder it became what it is today.
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TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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All of spains and portuguals population combined, 20% have jewish and arab roots.

>>74808985
Vai dormir.
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>>74806630
>States with just Portuguese/other European influence
Pará: 4 months old girl raped. Portuguese influence.
Favela de Janeiro: druglords and rape vans. Portuguese influence.
Maranhão: amateur football has referee beheaded. Portuguese influence.
Can't you just accept the fact that a good Portuguese is castrated, marked with red iron like other animals and thrown at its farm for forced works, and the others should be hunted with shotguns like wild animals?
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>>74810959
don't blame us for your nigger genes monkey
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>>74810959
And yet we're one off the most peaceful countries in the world, go figure.
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>>74787368
We're suebi nordic
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FUCK THE PORTUGESE
RACE WAR NOW
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>>74806630
Blacks haven power and little influence in Brazil.
genetics wise they are brown up in % swell.

Even then the reason you colonies area shit is because of bad colonial polices and rules, not because of the people contrary to what some chucklefucks say.
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>>74803452
On what website did you find the statistic that you posted?
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>>74809965

>Prussian values
>Southern Brazil meme

heh
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>>74811756
Not really a "meme" when facts back the arguments. And Chile did inherit Prussian Western values in regards to liberal democratic values and the free market.
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>>74811945
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>>74788294

Goa is the richest state in India, portugal was there till the 60s.

Argue with this bitch. DOn't try too look for scapegoats to excuse the fact that your country is laughable
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>>74788294
t. brainwashed commie
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>>74811362
Well yeah
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>>74803452
>>74812085
Brazil bro where can I see this statistic? I want to check it out it looks interesting
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>>74812182
It was taken down apparently. It was an interactive website with all the detailed information regarding migration in Brazil.

http://super.abril.com.br/blog/newsgames/conheca-dois-infograficos-multimidia-da-super-8220-republica-imigrante-do-brasil-8221-e-8220-mundo-mar-8221/
http://super.abril.com.br/multimidia/republica-imigrante-brasil-683294.shtml
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>>74808985
kek i'm whiter than you
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>>74808985
I thought the juninho meme was just a meme wtf
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>>74804286
>portuguese nationalism
>race based
We're a real nation-state. Race based nationalism is pathetic in comparison to ethnic nationalism.
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>>74804427
two countries fighting for your interests abroad is always better than just one
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>>74804427
if you want to why not
i miss sephardi bros
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>>74812866

Shut up.
Then they will do like they do in America. Promoting africans and other sub-humans to come to portugal
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>>74787437
>>74788294
Stop bullying Portugal.
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>>74813262
dumb portuguese
sephardis are not ashkenazi
there are no iberian jews in america you dumb idiot
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>>74813359
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>>74810959
Há um pequeno "detalhe" que destrói essa sua teoria ridícula:

- quando os Romanos invadiram o que viria a ser Portugal, 100 anos antes de Cristo, já os habitantes locais eram descritos tal e qual como hoje são os portugueses, maioria morenos, baixos, pele mais escura.

Os Mouros só vieram para Portugal 800 ANOS DEPOIS dos Romanos...
Mas até a História básica demonstra coisas:

Os Celtas ficaram em Portugal 4000 anos...

Os Romanos vieram e ficaram em Portugal 700 anos...

Até os Visigodos ficaram em Portugal durante 400 anos.

Depois de todos estes povos vieram os Mouros que ficaram em Portugal pouco mais de 200 anos. Nunca vieram em número suficiente para POVOAR mas sim apenas para ADMINISTRAR o território e os povos que já cá existiam.


Foram expulsos de Portugal no século 13, há mais de 700 ANOS...
Como é que um anormal burro e ignorante como você consegue dizer que os portugueses são "100%" mouros?

Mas a verdade é que já foram realizados muitos testes e investigações genéticas aos portugueses e o resultado é, de modo geral, este:

- mais de 80% dos portugueses hoje são descendentes directos dos povos pré-históricos que sempre habitaram o que hoje é Portugal. O que faz da maioria dos portugueses o povo europeu menos misturado com outros povos e um dos que tem os genes mais antigos
- 15% são uma mistura desses povos pré-históricos com os Celtas

- 4% têm uma pequena descendência africana (muito recente, a partir do século 15)

E, finalmente, menos de 1% da população portuguesa tem marcadores genéticos "mouros"... pode ser encontrado no sul do país. Na Europa são todos caucasianos, bem como no norte de África, no entanto na europa mediterânica o clima é mais quente e as pessoas são mais bronzeadas.
Ao contrário do que muita gente pensa, os portugueses são geneticamente mais parecidos com ingleses, irlandeses, gauleses

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Major_Y-DNA_and_mtDNA_Haplogroups
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>we wuz romanz n celts n sheit

Classic.
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>>74799261
t.Michael tsarion
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>>74813651
>was conquered by some Muslim niggers from North Africa
>remained a Muslim nigger colony for nearly 800 years
>had their women raped and bred by the BBC as if there would be no tomorrow

>white
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>>74813651
Ignora-o. Nós somos a mistura de vários povos (como o são todos os países mediterrânicos).
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>>74813703
prova-me que estou errado em vez de estares com esses argumentos de mestiço como tu deves ser, tu nem deves ser branco e estás para ai a falar, se o és tens descendencia portuguesa e estás a dar dizer o quão inferior tu és basicamente
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>>74813806
>Brazil is little over 500 years old
>Portugal and Spain remained Muslim nigger colonies for nearly 800 years

>Iberians are genetically Celtic and pure
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>>74813806
>being this ignorant of history and genetics
Brazilians truly are subhumans.
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>>74813806
lembrete diário que nós exterminamos os judeus e mouros, está aqui o teu (you) já agora
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>>74813899
Don't waste your time
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>>74811362
It's true. We shouldn't have had those fishing colonies in Canada. It has single-handedly made you cunts insufferable.
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>>74814032
we also kickstarted globalism but i'm glad everybody blames the jews instead of us
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>>74813871
The Iberian Peninsula was literally a Muslim nigger colony for nearly 800 years, and Iberians unironically believe they're pure, white, Celtic Europeans.

Are you even remotely aware of how incredibly delusional you are?

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>>74803978
>>74804286
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>>74812412
>>74812577
eu mostrei os posts do caxias que vive falando em iq e ser alemão, eu não sou o caxias caralho
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>>74814127
globalization =/= globalism
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>>74814134
>and Iberians unironically believe they're pure, white
Niguém diz isto.
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>>74814134
i wanna buy some of those slaves desu
what's with the portugal hate meme btw? is it genuine or is it banter?
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PAREM DE DAR YOUS PARA O CAXIAS
ELE É UM PSEUDO INTELECTUAL QUE SÓ ESCREVE MERDA
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>>74814127
Dude... We are the jews.
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>>74814166
literally one and the same thing
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>>74787368
Well Sweeds sure are
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definitely. the only white part of the portuguese is the french sex slave ancestors, who the poortuguese kidnapped enmass with their north african brothers.
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>>74814172
>>74814173
STOP FUCKING REPLYING
OH PUTA DEITA-TE
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>>74787437
Do the rest of the world a favour and keep your opinions to the rest of the former colonies, macac
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>>74814209
fátima - papa
futebol - benfica
fado - eurovisão - nome: salvador

5º império
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>>74814134
Well Brazil is a nigger colony now
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>>74814134
so according to that map almost no country in europe is white to you, nice logic you say that a whole population isn´t white just because of 10% and forgetting about the other 90%
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>>74788294
>male height
>no data
tfw the goyim don't know.
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This is the most autistic Brazilian I've ever seen
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>>74814479
he is an envy amerindian
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fodasse parem de alimentar o troll seus mentecaptos do caralho
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t. Self-Hating Butthurt Zuca
Zucabullet rapaz da favela
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>>74814557
estou só curioso, é um comportamento bastante invulgar para um brasileiro
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>>74788004
>wikipedia
That is bullcrap.... all refuted long time ago. You are just too dumb to even believe it.
The guy that did that conclusion didn´t manage to differenciate north-african caucasoid from ssafrican.
Portuguese people are obviously europeans, and genetically are not really related to moors.
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And it's always funny the complexed brazilians talking about euro-heritage. a multi-everything hellhole in the third world. LMAO
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>When u got to explain things on a very extensive manner.

It's a yes or no question.
This thread proves that we fail to convince eurofags that we not moors once again...
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>>74803452
>this level of inferiority complex

Portugal is what always have been. first world, good quality o life, very high HDI, identity, culture, folk, europids to the bone (pic related genetically).

About the colonies, we never had the number's to mass colonize any place, that's why brazil is all mixed and mud. But what about those great old british colonies like Palestine, Pakistan, India, Belize, Jamaica, Sudan, Nigeria... lel
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>>74817652
>thinking he is talking with other europeans and not with aliens from the third world.
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>>74817665
What is Sardinian
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It's been a while since I last saw this particular Brazilian shitposter, but this is a hilarious comeback. topkek 10/10 would read again.
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>>74817907
Sardinia, an island in the med sea.
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>>74787437
Does that make pieces of shit your mothers?
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