There are 1.3 BILLION chinese people in the world. Think about it.

>>74763531
It's pretty weird growing up as minority but knowing that you're the statistically most likely human.

大家好( •̀ ω •́ )y

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There can only be one.

Yeah it's a pretty big problem

>>74763564
They're our next masters. Be careful with what you say. I should probably start learning mandarin.

hello :3

>>74763614
Take off that proxy, Zhang.

if dubs i will get japanese gf

>>74763549
>>74763620
Ni hao. How do I get chinese 屄

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Chinese century

>>74763667
>tfw you were too stupid to learn chinese from your parents
>tfw I had to look up the character on google translate

What race are you? Assuming you look white, all you have to do is exist.

Brazilians eat sopa de macaco.
Think about it.

i hate being here in america.
i wish i was back in china.

>>74763667
stop thinking with your dick

>>74763714
sopa de macaco doesn't have any macaco on it
Think about it

>>74763714
But we got this practice from your, father.
Reminder that we descend from portuguese people who colonized the land.

>>74763531
all because of Mao, pre-Mao numbers was 500m, should have stayed around that number. A billion is too much to handle.

We need another great leap. And to kick anyone who isn't Han

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>>74763733
>>74763751

han chauvinism is the stupidest thing ever
only idiotic banana people would be retarded enough

Chinks aren't human beings, they're some kind of weird ant colony.

>>74763713
I'm probably 75% white 25% ameridian/black
That's one of the few characters that I memorized, I actually memorized the pinyin bi1. I also once tried learning Japanese and read Remembering the kanji but the autism required to move on was too much. The grammar seemed easier though(yeah I know that japanese is totally different from mandarin).

Portuguese/Chinese mixed hybrids are surprisingly very good-looking and modestly humble.

>>74763823
hey man, i'm a real human bean just like you

>>74763823
This

Just crush their Queen (the chink commie party) and China will collapse once again

>>74763549
it's weird growing up as a majority but knowing you're actually a minority

Germany is a weak and powerless country.

>>74763876
Shut the fuck up Zhang Remember that time when you were out slaves and you chimped out so we had to genocide you

>>74763876
What does that have to do with anything, ameriman?

>>74763910
No
>>74763912
Weaker countries should not badmouth stronger, superior countries.

Germany is a pointless and garbage country

>>74763832
Yea, Japanese is harder than chinese as far as I can tell. The only hard thing stopped me from learning Chinese was memorizing characters/vocab. Everything else was easy for me (probably because of growing up with my parents).

>>74763936
Yes I recognize that you're a superior country and our country is currently a joke but I don't recognize that every American as an individual is superior to me. My IQ is decent and I've seen Americans who say they can't even learn Algebra.

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>>74763692
>implying they won't get BLACKED too

>>74763910
All your country can do is produce nice cars.

Your military is shit.
Your economy is also shit.
Your politics is next level shit evolved.

>>74763956
>My IQ is decent
Are you over the 95th percentile of the population in intelligence? If not, don't reply to my message.

>>74763943
>>74763963
t. Jiao-long

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>>74763958
>implying they aren't RICING africa as we speak

>>74763985
I've done only online tests and in English and my IQ always showed 120 but I realize it might be less than that. All people also always say I'm intelligent even the foreigners I've met.
I should also say that I lack social skills and I'm very autistic-like.

>>74763819
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_chauvinism
"Han chauvinism is a term coined by Mao Zedong in 1956 to criticize ethnocentrism among the majority Han people of China."

Feel like I am about to get sniped by an angry german kid.

>>74764040
Point being?

>>74764040
yes

>>74763819
>only idiotic banana people would be retarded enough
What do you mean?

Brazilians eat sopa de macaco (uma delicia btw)
Think about it

>>74764168
not latinos of what not

bananas are yellow on the outside and white on the inside, deluded yellow americans

Can someone vocaroo uma delicia in chinese?

>>74763692
They look kind of happy. Is it because they are middle class of China?

>>74764184
Man, I watched one of the most fucked up shit ever recently. A cartel guy in mexico chopped off someone's leg with an blunt axe. How are people even capable of that? but Latinos should be bros and fight the gringo menace. I've studied our people and I've seen the greatness the pardo people are capable of that convinced me that we can do it. Most of the great people in my country are mixed even when we have the south we the muh pure german people. We just have to elect the right politicians.

>>74764220
Continuation: the fact that Chile has the highest HDI even being very mixed should be a counter-argument against the obsession over white people on this board.
Look also at the beginning. People who founded civiliziation were non-whites. They mock our indian blood but it came from asian people who are capable too
even in America they built civilizations like Maya, Aztec and built the inca civilization in only 100 years.

>>74764219
yes

>>74763531
The printing press was invented by the Chinese.
think about it.

>>74764253
It's a cultural thing, which transcends into the mentality of the average member of a society imo. For instance, you wrote "the fact that Chile has the highest HDI even being very mixed". The fact that you used the word "even" shows that you still think that being successful has to do with your "race" (which in latam is nothing more than the outer look, because this whole continent is mixed to oblivion) and not with your upbringing. Besides, every race chart in america self reported, so talking about race (even self reporting yourself as indian) is meaningless. We are an isolated country which helped us to develope a strong sense of nationality, and a work ethic, because nobody ever gave us nothing, and even if anyone would ever do it, it will have no significant effect because next week we will have a major earthquake, fire, flooding, volcano exploding, tsunami or whatever, and nobody is going to help us build it back again.

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>>74763860
and the CCP menbers are more than your Germany population.

>>74764453
CHINA IN THE HOUSE!!!

>>74764220
>>74764253
>responding seriously to a meme

>there are more people in a random city than my countries entire population

>>74764450
I used even because I was thinking of /pol/acks arguments saying that progress is race based and I used Chile exactly to beat that argument that's why I used "even". I should have said "Chile is very mixed and is the country with the highest HDI"
Remember English is my second language

>>74764450
>>74764602
I'm also very mixed and I'm trying to defend latam so it'd make no sense if I had used even to mean that mixed people are inferior.

>>74764450

the blue eyed Frenchman Pinochet who saved your country from the hell of communism

>>74763531
chinese are subhumans

Huaxia tribal confederation was a mistake.

>>74766573

some of them are. Some of them are bearers of a very ancient and successful civilization.
And I think you are not the glorious German with the asian girl foot fetish but, at least here, second generation chinese girls are good looking and very thin.

>>74766622
That's Ikibey, bro.

>>74766622
>some of them are.
stopped reading

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Don't mind me. Just dumping some jiffs.

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>>74764008
>Chinese women

>>74766622
He is Greek

>>74766964
Hey, prostitutes built the American West, maybe Chinese prostitutes will built the African africa

>>74763531
I hate Asians and especially the Chinese people.

But I love CCP and their values. I think they do totalitarianism the right way with the original Marxist values (Reaching socialism through capitalism)

Just sad that the average person living in the country is barely human.

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>>74763531
niiice

>>74764040
Oh my fucking god fuck mao

>>74763531
China is bigger than Europe. So, no problem.

>>74764220
>>74764253
You're wasting your time typing all this autistic shit out

Nobody here and nobody in the world claims white superiority. Meme all you want on me, it's just the truth. Nobody espouses that attitude.

>>74767646
You're acting like half of them live in Tibet though

>>74767298
>>But I love CCP and their values. I think they do totalitarianism the right way with the original Marxist values (Reaching socialism through capitalism)

Nigger what? They've been moving away from socialism for quite some time.

Wrong. There are exactly zero Chinese people as Chinks are not human.

I'd rather not tbhwy

So we often get mistaken for Chinese when we travel for other countries.

>>74767681
No. They have been moving more and more towards the original Marx steps to socialism.

Not a lot of people have actually read the communist manifest so I get why you are confused.

But Marx is actually a proponent of capitalism. He says that capitalism is absolutely needed because capitalism progresses to socialism out of itself when it is developed enough.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx%27s_theory_of_history

This was the original theory of Marx. See how it is actually just a timeline with capitalism being a vital step.

Deng Xiaoping (that defined current Chinese government and economic policies) was a big fan and student of original Marxist thoughts of pro-capitalism. So he made China more Marxist by introducing more capitalism to China.

It's also funny to note that Marx said that the US should be praised for being a nation that has sufficient capitalism to progress quicker to socialism than other nations. He also hated lenin and other people that tried to skip the capitalism part which Marx said was impossible.

The ultimate Joke and irony is that Ayn Rand and Marx would 100% agree in ideology. With the difference being that Marx thinks Capitalism is just a form of pre-socialism waiting for automation to replace human labor before it turns full socialist. (And capitalism makes automation develop the fastest)

>>74767785
How are we supposed to tell you apart?

>>74767797
>capitalism will collapse by itself, just you wait

>>74767992
Not collapse it will naturally transform into socialism to stay profitable.

The basic premise is that when a lot of jobs get automated a lot of people will lose their jobs.

Now the sales of those companies are dropping because a lot of people don't have work so they can't buy products. To compensate this they will need to find a way so that unemployed people can keep consuming just to keep capitalism going. This will be a universal basic income... otherwise known as socialism.

The more capitalist a society is the quicker this happens. Because capitalism wants to maximize profit thus they need to cut costs (machines are a cheaper labor force) and maximize income (more sales). This just gives the perfect scenario where socialism becomes more profitable for companies than capitalism so it naturally evolves to socialism because of greed.

I agree that it probably wouldn't be called socialism though. Soviet Union ruined that word forever.

>>74768057
Except the more capitalist the society is, the more opposed to basic income it's going to be. Take Switzerland. Rich as fuck and capitalist too. Resolutely denounced the basic income.

>>74767817
uhhh..... but East Asian(China Japan Korea Taiwan) people is so like(We can tell them because of their language)..
So would you stop judge east Asian are Chinese from first when you see east Asian and hear them ''Where are you from?''?

>>74768119
That's because it's not ready to go into the socialist part yet. Like I said it's automatic.

It won't come from democracy. It will come from companies. When capitalism isn't profitable enough anymore companies are going to demand national socialism such as basic income just to keep profitability up.

I'm not naive enough to think that people will vote for it. But I am sure enough that companies are greedy enough to ensure their profits stay up and they will need to enact this when automation makes the majority of people jobless due to AI/robotics improvements.

Marx in late 1800's said that it would probably take ~200 years for society to reach the state where most of the people are jobless due to automation (then called Mechanization)

So that's around 2080. But Marx didn't expect the PC revolution to happen of course which has pushed the timeline a lot quicker.

https://youtu.be/7Pq-S557XQU video about current pace of automation.

Look up the mechanization because it's funny to know that a lot of economists in the 1800's already predicted all work being done exclusively by machines back then. That was the entire basics for Marx's thoughts.

>>74768215
>companies will push for basic income
>even though the only source of that income are going to be taxes the state levies on them

I don't see that happening

>>74768496
You would be correct in a world where there would be only 1 company.

But remember it's a capitalist society with a big number of businesses and almost 0 human workers to buy products.

There's still competition. So the companies get in a dilemma. "Either I support this to ensure a steady stream of income or I oppose this with a chance that my competitors are going to trample me"

This makes the 1st option of universal basic income really attractive for companies. Again remember that they are going to lose 100% if they don't have customers. But only have a chance at losing money if they pay taxes (because they can get more customers than they paid taxes)

>>74768562
>because they can get more customers than they paid taxes)

HOW? Zero human workers, where are they supposed to get the money? I can see a big business oligarchy springing up and the companies giving out products and money to keep power. If you want to call that socialism, be my guest, but that's moving the goalposts to the other side of the field.

>>74768682
Ah I thought I was clear.

Let's say you have 100 companies.

Situation A: They don't pay taxes= they lose customers because no one can pay their products, they all go out of business

Situation B: They pay taxes= There is only enough money to buy products from 20% of the businesses 80% go bankrupt due to not enough income

Because of the competition the companies will still choose option B because they at least have a chance. And yes over time more and more businesses will go bankrupt which will eventually turn the socialism into communism when this process is completed.

Of course in reality this is a lot more complex. There will still be scientific advances which might make businesses profitable for longer and in reality there are a lot more businesses than 100 meaning that it will take far longer before all get bankrupt.

But still companies will never ever pick option A because it is guaranteed bankruptcy. They also can't hire human workers because they will lose out to competition. They also can't stop AI progression because a competitor might advance and take all market share. So companies just have to see the inevitable coming and try to stay on top as long as they can.

>>74768057
The existence of wage laborers and consumers is a temporary phenomenon. A world where automation makes most people unemployed doesn't have to lead to socialism. An entirely possible outcome is that the group who owns the means of production start producing directly for themselves. No complex economic cycles and relationships, just machines and a low number of servants and specialised technicians taking care of the rich in their isolated settlements while the world burns. Of course this model isn't sustainable either because it won't be able to recreate the specialists who are necessary to maintain the level of technology we have today, the knowledge and skills will be lost without an organised society with functioning institutions.

>>74768802
>Because of the competition the companies will still choose option B because they at least have a chance. And yes over time more and more businesses will go bankrupt which will eventually turn the socialism into communism when this process is completed.

Nope. This just leads to one company monopoly. Nevermind the fact people have so far been able to come up with ways to make themselves useful to society and get paid for it. so this 0 worker nonsense is false to begin with.

>>74768915
>able to come up with ways to make themselves useful to society and get paid for it

This will not always be the case. Humans basically only have skills you can categorize in 3 real ways. Physical,Mental,Artistic or a combination of these things. The industrial revolution automated most of our purely physical work. And people say "we just find new work" this is untrue we just switched to Artistic and mental work or some mix between mental+physical work.

AI is going to automate mental and artistic work and all the mixes in between those 3 skills.

There is nothing left for humans to do once this is reached. There is 0 ways for humans to contribute when this happens simply because we would be inferior in every way.

>>74768867
There's still a democratic government in place which still is decided based on votes. I'm just going to go out and guess that 99.9% of the people are going to vote for socialism in such a scenario like what happened in the 1880s in Europe to form welfare agencies.

But I don't even think it will come to that. There's still competition with other companies. Technology is still progressing so companies will still scramble to get an edge over their competition in any way possible even if it would be a short-term loss. Isolating and producing purely for yourself would make you ineffective in innovating for competition and power consolidation.

>>74769070
>once this is reached

The thing is it won't. Also, people would hire people just for the virtue of being people. You can hire a robotic butler or a human one. The robotic butler doesn't need the job, the human one does and is far more personable. Which one will you hire?

Another thing, what's more probable are human worker quotas/robotic work taxation.

>>74767817
if they bump into you without acknowledging it, or if they cut in line, they are Chinese. If they apologize for something that your didn't even notice, they are Japanese. If they look disgusted that you are talking to them, they are wealthy Koreans.

>>74769255
If they sell me groceries, they are Vietnamese

>>74769247
I'd rather have a robot butler so I don't have to make awkward small-talk, ask about their life, etc. Also, so I can be a slob or walk around my house naked without getting sued.

>>74769247
>The thing is it won't
Why not? It doesn't break the laws of nature or anything and all signs point towards it happening eventually
>Also, people would hire people just for the virtue of being people
Competition. When profit margins are going to become thinner and thinner due to automation producing a huge supply it will lead to companies trying to be as efficient as possible to compete. Humans are just too expensive. Unless humans somehow produce more income which I doubt if they would be inferior in every way which would happen eventually given enough time. (We aren't some holy creatures touched by the grace of god or something, just biological flawed machines)
>What's more probable are human worker quatas/robotic work taxation
I agree 100% which is why I said at the very beginning that a capitalist society as possible would lead to socialism Ayn Rand style. We don't have a fully capitalist society they are always meddled with (imo bad) government stuff that will slow down the development of capitalism and therefor disturb the transtition towards socialism. This is why China is moving towards capitalism. So that it progresses quicker towards mechanization like Marx said in 1800's

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>>74769404
>>74769070
>>74768802
>>74768215

>>74763531
Another nanjing and sok ching doesn't sounds so bad now.

>>74769457
the reddit spacing is a nice touch

>>74769457
>>74769502
You better hope it's correct because the alternative is most of humanity dying because the means of production was concentrated in the hands of the people that controls the AI of the future and we won't be the people that control it.

"reddit spacing" actually generates more (You)s you should try it some time. People are actually more likely to read your shit when you space it in that way.

>>74769404
>Humans are just too expensive.

Humans are as expensive as the demand for them. If everyone is going to be unemployed, that price will go down. This whole thing is a game theory construct anyway.

As for the signs, art seems out of reach of any AI so far and a lot of craftsmen labor also.

>>74769587
>Art

https://youtu.be/mQO2PcEW9BY?t=55s

Not for long. Shit is advancing more rapidly than people are expecting.

>>74769638
55s fucking timestamping doesn't work.

>>74769638
You think human art isn't going to be more valuable just for the simple fact it's human art and therefore more scarce by definition?

>>74769760
Eventually you'll have AI produce art that's personalized specifically for you based on all your preferences. Entertainment such as music/film/games/books and even things like paintings would have no value when it will always generate something that caters 100% to you and be your personal 10/10 experience. Art is subjective. But when you make art for 1 specific person you can make art that is subjectively good for that person. That is impossible for humans to do simply because it's not cost effective and also because it's impossible for humans to analyze a persons preference and create a piece that fits to that person 100%.

>>74769873
>people want to be 100% catered to

I don't think you understand art

>>74763531
yeah, even a smallest bomb can kill a million of those fucks

>>74767298
>I think they do totalitarianism the right way with the original Marxist values

very wacky notion and ill informed af. this line can solely prove all of your wall of texts are utter garbage, a waste of space. literal spergging-out

>>74767298
kek of all the people saying they hate CCP not chinese people or they hate both, you're the only one I've seen saying the opposite, keep up the good work netherland

>>74769957
> >people want to be 100% catered to
> I don't think you understand art

he does tho. it doesnt have to be comfortable to 'cater to needs'. you can cater the needs in existential feelings, sadness, dread, butthurt and so on too!

>>74770241
Surely not biased. Come with some arguments. And yes the cultural revolution was flawed but CCP Since Deng Xiaoping has improved tremendously and Hu Jintao basically perfected the party.

But I'm pretty sure you're just a weeb ranting from your eikaiwa teaching job.

>>74770241
I guess he's kind of left wing accelerationist. one of his most important presumption is that the three kind of human's abilities,physical, mental, artistic(I think this could be categorized into mental) will be superseded by automaton and AI in the future. There are too much uncertainty and game theory involved in his theory, but that doesn't mean they are all bullshit

>>74770473
>A number of philosophers have expressed apparently accelerationist attitudes, including Karl Marx in his 1848 speech "On the Question of Free Trade"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerationism

Thanks you China. I know that what I say might sound like random rambling to people that never actually read anything about communism so it's hard to talk about it on 4chan.

>>74770371
I can guarantee you art types and so on will go on how machines can never be art and how art is about artist's vision, not about catering to people.

>>74770799
Well, I just thought the Japanese poster know something about Marxism judging by his tone, so I tried to explain to him.
btw, how do you know this much about Marxism? Is your major related to philosophy or sociology?

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Any study material anyone can recommend for Mandarin beginners?

>>74771212
Haha no. I'm an electrical engineer always thinking about automation and AI in the future and it led to me reading a lot of scripture from Marx and that also gave me interest in the history of the industrial revolution and how the movement of socialism & communism grew.

A lot of people in the west seem to think that CCP is a government that is bad and gave up on communism and is slowly becoming fully capitalist. But I think that the CCP is actually really smart using acceleration from capitalism while also having a lot of engineers and scientists within the party to make long term plans for the nation.

What do you think about CCP?

>>74763657
if dubs your mom is my gf

>>74771358
Well, ccp isn't aware that itself is a living case of accelerationism. Deng indeed attempted to introduce capitalist to help resource allocation and income distribution to improve the efficiency and productivity of the whole society, but things got out of control during Jiang's rule. The regime eventually turned into an oligarchical capitalism one and cruel exploit phenomenon during the development of European capitalism reappeared in China. People got severely exploited and sometimes even enslaved. Things only get a bit better in recent years (labor rights barely guaranteed) In another word, history repeats itself. It seems to be too utilitarian to applause for accelerationism at the cost of that many workers' health, rights or even life.

>>74771358
>What do you think about CCP?
A gigantic organized crime syndicate whose main purpose is to enrich the CCP leadership while oppressing and stomping on the people.

>>74771925
In western news it's shown that Xi Jinping's government actually solved a lot of corruption and some rich Chinese corporation CEOs also get pressure from the government.

Do you think that china will become fully communist when automation and AI fully develops or do you think that the capitalism that is now active within China will prevent that from happening?

Also if you aren't using a firewall are you even free to talk about any of this?

>>74771343
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>>74771343
Hi, there

>>74772184
I don't believe this. Especially when you read the things people like Deng Xiaoping says it looks like he was genuinely trying to find the best solution to help his country at the time. Also things like needing a degree in an exact science/engineering to become part of the inner party and their investment into green technology seems to me like they actually care about the long term prosperity of the nation.

But yeah hearing the Chinese guy being mildly sceptical kinda makes me want to go to China and ask the actual people what they think. But I don't think it'll be such a responsible plan to go and ask people in an authoritarian nation what they think about their government and expect a fair answer.

and no one here
magic of communism

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>>74763531
There will be 2 billion Africans in this century.
Think about it.

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>>74772426

I visited China last month and stayed for about 3 weeks. The last few days i just wanted to come back home but now i'm starting to miss it.

China is an amazing country to visit. Not sure how it is living there though.

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>>74772560

>>74770381
do you even know what mao and ccp were doing. its nothing short of a bunch of shitfests, the governments official chimpouts. i wont tell the details because its too long. you ought to read actual inside stories of the national fuckfests described from the viewpoints of rational chinese normies who actually experienced those days and were objectively watching it back then.

not only that but also the ultimate forms/hivemind of the autistic struggle sessions and the red guards' chimp-outs/lynches/violent acts which are beyond the rule of isis's sharia-law, and how fooled a bunch of naive poor rural youths were and how innocently hyped they got in droves. its how a collective euphoric, and uneducated, mindset goes. the consequences were actually utterly pathetic, ludicrous, and sad. you gotta know about these at least.

sorry, our grandpas' fault. they failed to kill em all

>>74772250
>>74771925
>>74770473
Hey China anon
What's the opinion on North Korea these days?

>>74773002
Cultural revolution and great leap forward yes. They were clusterfucks. Also the Chinese civil war and mao power consolidation were harsh.

But under Deng Xiaoping in the 80s china returned to the original Marxist roots. Corruption actually gets dealed with within the party such as a general being arrested under the current chairman etc.

China is a lot more Marxist than Soviet union ever dreamed of being. Especially now.

>>74763531
How about 1.2 billion INDIANS?

>>74772224
>Do you think that china will become fully communist when automation and AI fully develops
Too many factors are involved. But imo there will be a major stagnation of the development of socialism when automation get fully developed because at that time people can still be engaged in intellectual works such as scientific research. Since the utmost abundance of material has been realized at that time, people will design a better institution that reduce the degree of exploitation to a very low level which can still maintain capitalist's much better life quality than average people though the exploitation still exist. I guess this institution will help the society smoothly but slowly transit to communism. Although a necessary presumption is that speed of population increase of developed country is much more lower than the development of technology

>Also if you aren't using a firewall are you even free to talk about any of this?
Chinese people are free to talk anything online as long as your words are not involved with subversion of the government. Also Western Marxism is widely discussed about academically

>>74773244
ordering shit online like clothes for example, do you get slapped by customs or not?

>>74773244
Thanks for answering my questions.

>>74773002
Cultural revolution is indeed Mao's worst social experiment, but Marxism is not the one to blame.
and this>>74773139

>>74773060
they are trying hard to blackmail America into normalizing their bilateral relations

>>74773329
>do you get slapped by customs or not
no

>>74773486
How do you think that's going to turn out?

>>74773530
America cancel some economic blockades in exchange for NK not developing (intercontinental) ballistic missiles.

>>74773766
I'm reading on wikipedia about subversion "颠覆" but it's really wide definition. It's not really clear what can be said and what can't be said.

>>74773139
>But under Deng Xiaoping in the 80s china returned to the original Marxist roots
no. what 鄧小平 was doing is basically being open minded about capitalism such as japan while getting mao untouchable. he visited japan to look into what happens there, how capitalism works, and was pretty blown away, overwhelmed by modern technology like japanese shinkansen and the prosperity of capitalism. heres the actual funny shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKd3nK6_ZhQ

this isnt an exaggerated story but the fact. he was maintaining the ccp's regime as communism but at the same time he isnt really against capitalism, if anything he was actually trying to absorb it. you still get the wrong idea.

one thing i can value him is he wasnt an expansionist, was still pretty moderated as a political leader, unlike the current arrogant one.

>>74772414
I'm a leaf I don't think, I shitpost.

>>74773919
To be more exact, from my experience, the following are forbidden to discuss openly:
1. organizing terroristic activities
2. organizing anti-government activities in real life(saying overthrow ccp online is fine but parade is not allowed)
3. Tienanmen square protest of 1989 particularly

>>74774056
>one thing i can value him is he wasnt an expansionist
He is the very guy who launched Sino-Vietnamese war and fetched land territory and islands in SCS and re-insisted China's claim on the whole SCS. Guess what you would say if all these happen nowaday.

>>74774578
I dont know much about the war 2bh but I'd say he was still motivated by the traditional values of communism in carrying out shit like that or by a historical rivalry. He wouldnt have had an attempt at involving Asia as a whole for the good of CCP at least.
And yes, I've thought the problem of modern days China is just the corruption and the chimp-out of the CCP as political elitists, an interest group, power. CCP wasnt like that in the 80s. They werent anti-Japan but were even friendly to it for instance.

>>74773244
are you a marxist?

there are more humans out there than yourself

Think about that

>>74778630
I can't get a grasp on what did you mean by that?

People only matters when they are close to you. If all those chinese will remain in China, I have totally no problems with that.

>>74772414

the parts where africa and china are balloning make me think of a flexxing thiccc butt

so i fapped to it

>>74775558
>the traditional values of communism
one of the traditional values of communism is Internationalism FYI

>They werent anti-Japan but were even friendly to it for instance
The rise of capitalism is bound to result in the emergence of nationalism. Geo-politically, two capitalist countries in the same region with different status in World-system (china on rising as a periphery country while Japan is a core country) definitely will have conflict in national interest especially for economic interest just like Europe before world wars. Anti-japan propaganda is a result of it instead of cause. On the other hand, there is also anti-China propaganda in Japan, don't pretend like LDP is innocent.

>>74778126
Yes, kinda close to Maoist

Would be interesting if they could get into captchas here. Would become a much more asian place I guess.

>>74779128
>close to Maoist

You didnt starve enough people yet?

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>i see all those Chinese qts in São Paulo
>i'm too autistic to talk with them

Halp.

>>74779363
Not an apologizer for the famine at all, but I have to say the famine should be attribute to the lack of economist at that time (most ccp cadres were cultured in army. also inb4 KMT, they've already fucked up China's economy before they were defeated). Shit always happens when a country lacks well-educated bureaucrats or should people blame British king for the Irish famine and all kind of Indian famines.

>>74779817
>Chinese qts in São Paulo
Are you sure they are not Japanese?

>>74780168

They have their own neighborhood and its people are being replaced by Chinese anyway.

Why aren't there more Chinese posters? There are way more South Koreans and Japs on here than Chinese

>>74780550
being unable to get captcha and many ips in China get banned

>>74780656
你是谁

>>74780737
四川人 我建了个sino群 你要加么

>>74779128
>Anti-japan propaganda is a result of it instead of cause. On the other hand, there is also anti-China propaganda in Japan, don't pretend like LDP is innocent.
You might hate it but I was talking about based on the western values of human rights. I hate pretty much every censorship, and that's another problem under the propaganda. Especially, the regimes of China Russia those Islamic states and all that shit have still used it to not let their political faults out and keep people shut up about it, and even strengthened it day by day. And Im sure that such a conflict wouldn't have happened if CCP didnt start the censorship and took the basics of the concept of human rights, along with the rise of capitalism. At this point, All I can say about Chinese politics is this. I know you wouldn't like these things tho.

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*thinks*
Hmm, hmm, yes...

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>>74781454
well I dislike censorship as well but still, imo the national interest conflict is the cause instead of result

>>74780737
暂且先把二维码放上来吧

>>74781454
>Falling for the Democratic Peace fallacy

Fukuyama pls.

You cant eat democracy. Human rights won't let arable land, fresh water reservoirs and raw materials magically appear. Human civilizations need living space, and thus they fight and kill for it.

Sino-Japanese antagonism is structural, not ideological. There can't be two kings on the hill. And there can never be a powerful and wealthy China alongside a Powerful and Wealthy Japan. Only either one can claim the constrained Living Space of East Asia for itself, with the other one suffering full spectrum decline.

If democracy and human rights made people forgive Japanese Crimes, why is South Korea still not forgiving you? Hell, and they are even being actively pressured by the Americans to forgive you for the sake of an unified anti-chinese front.

The answer are again structural reasons.
SK is also a competitor for living space in Asia. And they won't give you anything voluntarily.

>>74780942
Sichuan is objectively one of the nicest Chinese provinces. I really love the food (although I got the feeling that Sichuan cuisine is kinda the Chinese equivalent to Italian food in Europe, in term of being so ubiquitous).

Fuck Korean
Marry Japanese
Kill Chinese

>>74763531
And there's still no a single real Chinese person on this board. Think about it.

>>74780168
True, but it was the maoist attitude towards intellectuals that caused the removal of ecnomists in that scape. I understand why Mao is idealised in China as he wrestled western control off and introduced a hard cut to build the country up from scratch. You would probably look like India today if not for him.
You can be glad for Deng.
Take the DDR for example-many educated people, order and support from the soviets did not prevent an economic downward spiral that led to people hording the scarce goods they waited for in line and the obscure shenanigans such as the population only hearing about the fact that a death penalty was in place after its removal was announced for goodboy points in the west. Communist states rarely had a very transparent way of governance as you dont need it if everything is centralplanned for the people anyway.

>>74782854
我是一個中國人,privet.

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Do Chinese hate Americans or will they show us mercy after they conquer the world?

>>74783658
我不為中國人發聲但我不喜歡美國人,translate it.

>>74783725
I support Taiwan and Hong Kong independence.

>>74783825
我支持新加坡港資公司給我一個高薪的工作

有錢就有妹

>>74783868
taiwan jobs arent good?

>>74784210
穩定但是薪水不高 我在國營企業上班

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>>74763531

Uuuhhh prease CHINA! not so hard CHINA!
MMMhhh yes. CHINA!

>>74784416
du bist so schoen.

>>74784283
穩定就行了

It is glad to see more china-flags in /int/. /int/ will be more fun and interesting.

>implying theyre not chink proxies

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Is the tonality of Chinese super important? I can't even HEAR the differences in speech I listen to.

so when does china take over the world and start putting white people into ovens

>>74785806
Chinese aren't niggers.
They value white people and will offer a apropriate cooperation.
Propably not for Anglos tho.

>>74785509
You will still be understandable.

>>74786298
>They value white people and will offer a apropriate cooperation.

Lol what bs chinese don't value whites. They aren't flips

>>74782442
>muh moral high ground
>muh ethic
>muh oppression
>muh tragic history
>wuz victimz n sheeit

being such a giant moral compass SJW machine that comes with all these pieces of shit has nothing to do with the concept of human rights. if anything its to get over it, and thats what you, westacuked zhangs, cant realize in the slightest. too bad im gonna go off to bed, but your nazi inspired "muh lebensraum muh ethnic cleansing now" reasoning is merely just another internet hivemind, nowhere near the reality. youre just being competitive as usual, such terrible sjw alt-right hybrid scum,

>>74763531
*thinks about it*

huh, you're right

>>74786866
漢字

>>74786861
I told it doesn't account for anglos.

>>74787324
vielen Dank für die investierte Zeit und Energie

>>74787324
No they don't really care at all anglo or not.

That's why people bitch about traveling to Japan or China. It's one of the few places that don't suck white tourist dick or mentally associate whiteness as a demi god status.

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>>74796239
I (white) was treated really well in China. I'd notice Chinese people treating other Chinese people like shit, then being much nicer to me. My black colleague was treated like shit, because they thought that he was an African (we were in Guangzhou, which has a large African diaspora). When people discovered that he was a black American, they treated him better, and asked him silly things like if he knew Kobe Bryant.

Most Chinese people don't seem to love whiteness for racial reasons. But they do love richness. And if you're white, they might assume that you are rich (compared to most of them, you likely are).

However, there is subculture of chinese europhiles and chinese ameriboos bred on american pop music and Hollywood movies, who genuinely think the white physiology/culture/personality/etc is superior. It's not even close to the majority of Chinese people, but they still outnumber white tourists/expats in any tier 1 city. So it's easy to be surrounded by them, and it can seem like all Chinese people love whites if you stay in that bubble.

>>74764008
god i love the RICING may may makes me chuckle every time i see it

>>74773139
>falling for the feudalism/capitalism/socialism meme
If china had to be made more capitalist in order to reach communism, why did countries like eastern germany never liberalise their economic policies? Eastern Germany was even an industrialised, capitalist state before the it became communist

看點漢字白人

吃飯了

>>74810897
貴方わ日本人ですか?

>>74811276
我是一個中國人,願阿拉保護你

>>74811384
我明白了,谢谢

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>>74811384

媽說政治是管理眾人的事

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>>74783658
>after they conquer the world?
And they will do this with their 1980s military how?

>>74811681
在台灣基督徒都是藍的,他們都在美國爽歪歪。我只是低薪勞工我也不投Dpp,他們一樣是炒房集團。

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>>74812018
You forgot their terrible birthrates and the completely spoiled one-child generation.

台灣是中國的一省

我基本上絕育 沒女友哭哭

只要打繁體中文就沒有人說話了,讚美阿拉,讚美中華電信4G,我不用買4Chan pass .

誰會理一個黃種男人。不就是為了錢嗎?

華裔美國人萬歲

我從出生的那一刻就死了。

>>74783577
You are not real Chinese.
I mean Taiwan isn't real China :P

>>74813306
Real china is rural and polluted, people are dumb and controlled by the money and the party.
Is FSB watching my post?

>>74812242
And how the PLA is really just a border guard/internal security force rather than an effective army that can project power.

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>>74813612
Are you saying thousands of warehoused 1970's tanks and submarines aren't effective? :^)

中國一定強

>>74813947
Not when their subs are noisy chugging diesel-powered hunks of shit.

>>74769873
In real life AI can't even translate sentences correctly.

>>74772414
I don't want to

>>74814213
My mom hated to deal with American companies sell us stupid shit, 1950s shit.

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>>74815636
We don't sell any weapons but old junk to Taiwan because we don't want mainlander spies to get ahold of the good stuff.

Is there a single outstanding thing about China?

>>74766831
Requesting more from Redpilled Samurai Man

I would find china really cool if they had a sort of "cool culture" like japan does but they seem kinda lame

1.3 billion people and none of them came up with anime or cyberpunk or any cool things japan has

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>>74768057
This is the thing with commies, I mean, yeah everything you said is all well and good, but it never ever fucking ends there. It's not just about economic policy, you all have got to talk about religion as the opiate of the people and how families must be torn down so that people can live in communes in every sense, how nationality isn't real, how everything has to be looked at through a totally pragmatic eye, how genders aren't real, how culture doesn't matter, how history doesn't matter, etc.

>>74818756
countries that are poor are not good at exporting culture

china has only recently gotten to a point where per capita incomes can support a consumer market, however you do see some things emerging in their infancy. there's a chinese e-sports anime airing now that's surprisingly good, and as china gets richer it will produce more cool things (assuming shanzhai culture doesn't get in the way)

also chinese coastal cities are about as cyberpunk as you can get. places like shenzhen are at the vanguard of cool tech shit

>>74763531
90% of 1.3BILLION Chinese people hating China.
Think about it.

>>74769873
fucking dropped

>>74818756
>1.3 billion people and none of them came up with anime or cyberpunk or any cool things japan has
The CCP stomps out any individual expression or creativity. Whaddya want?

>>74818945
What the fuck you post makes no sense.

>>74819016
Jaimaica is an exception which is pretty interesting.

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>>74819343
What doesn't make sense about it

I'm saying commies like to talk about the future of economics and collectivist socialism as the next step for mankind after capitalism in the same sense that agrarian society came after nomadic society a fucklong time ago. But it's never actually about that, since it's really a bit esoteric.

For some reason, internationalism, anti-theism, anti-culture, and lately SJW shit always accompanies communists. If they were just all about economics none of them would care about that. But they all do. So fuck them.

>>74763531
There aren't 1.3billion people in china, there are 1.3billion commie drones in china. Learn the difference.

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>>74763963
>military is shit
Because they are restricted. We all know what the germans can do if they chimp out.

>politics
they are a very stable direct democracy.
China is a communist shithole

>economy
Again, much higher productivity and GDP per capita.

China is rich because they fuck like rabbits. If their populations wasn't so big, they would be a thailand level shithole.

>>74767562
ayyyy LMFAO