Which Country has The Worse Society and People? I Bet China.

pffft Russian society might be rude, sometimes cruel etc but it's not near as bad as china's

>>74728570
Both countries got fucked over hard by communism.

I'd have to say China just because Ruskies have contributed so much to mathematics/physics though

USA is worse than China. We pretend to be the good guys then we bomb people for no reason and elect a piece of shit TV celebrity. The world would be better off had we never existed.

>>74728662
(You)

>>74728570
When will you pay for the THADD?

>>74728570
china
>shittiest pollution
>shittiest censorship
>shittiest culture
>shittiest subhuman animals
>shittiest shithole

russia
>nice architecture
>beautiful nature
>wonderful literature
>nice booze
>hottest women

russia win no doubt

I don't even have the ability to express how brain damaged we are. Killing us would be the merciful thing to do. All that I ask is that you hit Washington DC first. I am sorry for everything that we have done to you and your country. NEVER AGAIN

>>74728662
Take off that proxy, Xiang.

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>>74728706
>shittiest shithole

>Between China and Russia?
China without a doubt, but Asia on the whole are cruel societies like Korea, Vietnam...

Russians are corrupt, easily brainwashed bydlo but Chinese are this weird, creepy, angry Borg collective.

>>74728992
>t. jean-claude mamadou

China

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why don t ppl in china wear pic related instead of hospital masks? gas mask looks better and is better protection from bacteria and smog

Russia is depressive just for the cold wheater, but chinese are shit by nature

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>>74728660
>Both countries got fucked over hard by communism.

How exactly did China get 'fucked' over by communism?

PRE-COMMUNISM : China was weak nation that couldnt defend itself ruled by an ineffective government that allowed foreign powers like Japan / West to come take land from them
AFTER-COMMUNISM : China is strongest it has ever been in the last 300 years since at least the 17th century (maybe even longer) and still rising.

>>74728662
T. Xi Jiang

>>74729061
>easily brainwashed
Less than amerilards

China.

>>74728706
Care to explain your shitty opinions?

>>74728570
china

China? It isn't even a fucking competiton

>>74729574
america dark red
germany deep red
arab dogs high empathy

this map is trash

>China

Anyone willing to explain? By most measures of societal health Chinese society is better than Russian.
Just look at crime statistics, average lifespan, or number of terror attacks.

>>74729913
chinese are subhumans

Meh, chinks are total assholes. We're rude, emotionaless but still way better than those Ching Chongs, at least because we're a bit more close to white society therefore our mentality feels near to yours

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>>74729942
Calm down Adolf, or are you thinking that "third time's the charm"?

>>74729978
I am a Greek

Slavs>chinks

>>74729996
Planning revenge for your country's economy there? Top tip - tell them you are syrian after getting caught, they'll let you out in no time.

>>74729387
a powerful country doesnt necceseraly meean a good country
the people live in awful conditions
Equatorial Guinea also has one of the highest GDPs per capita of Africa, but only because of the top 100 richest people while the rest live in misery.

>>74729574
dont make fun of autism, its rude!

>>74728797
>Shittiest Shithole

Honestly it's India

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>>74730119
Spain population : 45 Million
China population : 1.4 billion

More people in China live in conditions that is first world and have better lives that the entire population of Spain x 10. You know that China is fucking huge. Here is HDI of the various regions of China

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_administrative_divisions_of_Greater_China_by_Human_Development_Index

>>74730338
>>74729387
I don't know if you try to troll but you convinced me
I /sinogreko/ now

>>74729824
of course

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>>74728570
no such thing

>>74728570
both are basically equally shitty, especially rural areas would be a literal hellhole of the worst kind. you cant have anything to do other than to commit suicide, along with mega closed minded rude people.

>>74728706
both censor all dissident things and menaces/public unrest against the regimes. culturally speaking, russia has some talented artists/musicians while china has weeby things.

>>74728570
nor even a competition, hands down to slavs, but still better than gooks

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>>74731568
forgot to upload the shithole where those AIDS-carrying subhuman live

>>74729978
He is Greek

>>74730338
chinese are subhumans

whites dont understand how filthy asians are

>>74728570
japan and your country

>>74728662
...and China pretends to be non-interventional isn't but Tibet, Vietnam, Korea, etc. would probably disagree.

>>74729574
How do you estimate empathy?

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>>74730338
>More people in China live in conditions that is first world

>>74730401
>t.Papadopulos Hung

>>74731885
>1949, 1950, 1979

>>74731916
How do you estimate a "worst society"?

>>74731885
They continue to prop up the worst government on Earth for the selfish reason of securing the border of Manchuria.

>>74732073
>1949, 1950, 1979
What's your fucking point most people use Vietnam as an example of our fuckups and we don't claim to be non-interventionalist (in fact after WW2 it's part of our strategy).

>>74732125
I'm saying all those actions were many decades ago while the US has engaged in repeated unprovoked aggression in the Balkans and Middle East since that time, they've also threatened China with THAAD.

>>74732116
>>74732125
China hasn't been at war since 1979. The USA has been at war continously since then. I'm not a retard who claims "HURDUR CHINA GOOD USA BAD" but you are a fool for acting like you two aren't the same imperialistic pieces of shit.

Can someone please explain why people keep saying China and not Russia.

By practically every measure of societal health, China's society is better than Russia's.

HIV
Lifespan
Crime
Murder
Terrorist attacks
Armed conflict within borders
Movie production
Number of patents
Amount of books written
Abortion rate
Drug use rate
Societal homogenity
Percent of muslims

Chinese society isn't good by any measure, but it appears far healthier than Russian society.

>>74732339
China scores better on some of those figures only because it is a totalitarian state with strict social controls* and did not go through a massive socioeconomic collapse in the 1990s. When it comes to factors like life expectancy and media/culture, the country is a bad joke.

*North Korea has very little crime or HIV either, but that doesn't make it a livable society

If you guys didn't know, this Spanish flag is a known CCP proxybot.

Russians actually have souls while chinks are automatons.

>>74732423
You addressed exactly 3 of the 12 indicators I posted.

Furthermore, China's life expectancy is higher than Russia's.

>>74732454
You are a newfag if you don't know who I am.

>>74732496
Do you have any source for that? Any explanation? Any evidence?

>>74728570
I don't know but Chinese food > shit >>>> Russian food

>>74732496
Russians are quite self-hating and painfully aware of their country's shortcomings. I've never heard a chink say same about China because they're not individuals, they're a giant insect colony.

>>74732546
You are hilariously ignorant if you haven't heard a Chinese person criticize China.

>>74732511
>You addressed exactly 3 of the 12 indicators I posted
They were all addressed.

>HIV
>Crime
>Murder
>Terrorist attacks
>Armed conflict within borders
>Drug use rate
Totalitarian state with strict social controls.
>Percent of muslims
Poor argument since China has historically never had a large Muslim population while Russian absorbed millions of them during 17th-19th century territorial expansion.
>Abortion rate
Is mandatory by law in China (you can't have more than one kid)
>Movie production
>Number of patents
>Amount of books written
Is completely a joke, as is expected in a totalitarian state that denies people any form of free expression.

>>74732194
>The USA has been at war continously since then.
The USA has been at war continuously for over 100 years. They're basically Mexican Mongols.

>>74732602
Diaspora and chinks who don't live in the PRC (Hong Kongers and Taiwanese despise mainlander Chinese).

>>74732652
>Is mandatory by law in China (you can't have more than one kid)
That's a very good thing. Idiots shouldn't be breeding. I wish more countries followed their lead in this regard.

>>74732546
what do you expect from the chink subhuman animals? they don't even have some balls for get democracy they are fucking delusional even their quality of life is the 3rd world shithole they never gonna bullshit abut their own 3rd world shithole china but russians

>>74732658
>over 100 years

>WWI
1-1/2 years
>WWII
3-1/2 years
>Korean War
3 years
>Vietnam War
8 years
>Gulf War
6 months
>Afghanistan
10 years
>Iraq
7 years

That's actually just under 35 years.

>>74732652
>Russia is not a totalitarian state with strict social controls
Are you really this retarded?

>poor argument
Except China has 60 million muslims and conquered a lot of muslim land. Russia imports most of its muslims and doesn't fuck while muslims do.

>it's mandatory
No it isn't. This shows how fucking ignorant you are. Kill yourself.

>it's completely a joke
>hurdur Chinese don't produce cultural products

(You)

>>74732652
>China has historically never had a large Muslim popul-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghurs

>>74732166
>unprovoked aggression in the Balkans

ah yes, genocide isn't a provocation

>>74732769
>Are you really this retarded?
Today Russia is just a garden-variety banana republic where the ruling class doesn't otherwise care what you do as long as they can steal from the people unchallenged. China however still very much has old-school communist social controls and media and whatnot are strictly regulated.

>it's completely a joke
>hurdur Chinese don't produce cultural products
Maybe it did before Mao Zedong happened.

>>74732686

>capped at one kid
>parents still prefer male children
>abort female fetuses
>end up with a horrid gender imbalance that threatens your society

I wouldn't expect Australians to have an intellect greater than a bumblebee, but then again you're probably not even Australian

>>74732764
Umm we were in Afghanistan for 13 years at least, and still have 10,000 soldiers there.

>>74732919
Although the one child policy has never been entirely watertight and is not enforced in rural areas so much.

>>74732808

>10 million of 1,300,000,000
nice, that's 0.07% or thereabouts

meanwhile Russia is 7% Muslim.

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>>74732652
>since China has historically never had a large Muslim population
>Is mandatory by law in China (you can't have more than one kid)
JUST

>>74732454
He's actually an American leftist studying in Spain, possibly with some Trotskyite faggots whose grandfathers got executed by Franco.

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>>74732913
You are amazingly ignorant of how Russia is today. China and Russia are similar rankings (not free) in all media freedom ratings. I'm not gonna argue with you on subjective issues so I'll give you this
https://rsf.org/en/ranking
https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-press/freedom-press-2016

>le China has no culture

>>74732919
You are literally wrong. China doesn't even have the one child policy anymore.

>>74732984
Russia is 15% Muslim. The survey methology of the data you see on Wikipedia is flawed.
https://www.rt.com/news/349499-fitr-moscow-muslims-celebrate/

>>74733036
No I am a US airman deployed in Spain. I've proven this multiple times, but I honestly don't care what you think I am.
It doesn't change the facts.

>>74733094
Why would a US military serviceman be shilling CCP propaganda. That requires some considerable suspense of disbelief.
>>74733036
Far more likely.

Russia has lost 10% of its population in the last 2 decades to emigration (14 million out of 145 million)
China has lost .2% (20 million out of 1.4 billion).
China's population has risen from 1.25 billion to 1.4 billion since 1997.
Russia's has fallen since then.
Russian's have a death rate of over 18 compared to China's 9. Russian life expectancy is 3 years less than Chinese.

Now which society is healthier?

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>>74733065
>You are literally wrong. China doesn't even have the one child policy anymore.

No shit captain. Do you think the ~2 generations that were affected by it just randomly up and died, you dumb nigger?

http://www.newsweek.com/2015/06/05/gender-imbalance-china-one-child-law-backfired-men-336435.html

The gender ratio of men to women was 1.22 in 2008 and 1.16 in 2015. At its worst, that meant there were 22% more men than women... if you can't see what's a problem, I'm afraid nothing will penetrate your thick skull. That's a recipe for societal instability. The baser men lash out due to unfulfilled sexual urges, going on knife-killing sprees (just like Chenpeng, which happened in 2012). The honorable men look at their life and realize that there will be no prospect of marriage to them, so they buy into the PRC's neocolonial propaganda and work in Senegal and Ghana and spawn half-black babies there. Even for the men who are successful enough to operate in China, it's a woman's dating market. If you don't have a house and a car, you will never get permission to marry someone's daughter.

In societies that have large populations of young unmarried men, you get powderkegs like Syria, Egypt, Tunisia. The only way the CCP controls the situation is by being authoritarian and breaching human rights. That is not respectable.

>>74733166
Believe what you want. Facts don't change based upon who you are.

Every single thing I write has factual basis. Furthermore, I provide sources when asked because I study these issues extensively.

>>74733242
Did you completely forget about these two posts>>74732919
>>74732652

If you aren't this anon, then fuck off.

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>>74733166
why do you call facts CCP propaganda?
what if I tell you the life expectancy has been rising steadily since CCP took over China, is it communist propaganda too?

>>74733212
The Russian society is anything but healthy, it would be stupid to deny that. Russia has one of worlds highest rates of drug abuse, alcoholism, abortions, suicide rates and murder rates. The birth rates are low and on average people die 10 years younger than in western countries

>>74732454
everyone is starting to get it. whether hes chinese or not, its a lie or not, its certain that hes a total pro-china and deny anything bad about china all the time. hes also very competitive and loud, and always makes china out to be better than the opponent.

this guy is like a chat bot to parrot the same tropes. its literally endless. when you feel like killing your time, it might be good you play with it.

>>74733890
You are pathetic. I have criticized China hundreds of times and consider their pollution, population control, and debt issue to be huge failures.

The difference is that I hate myths about China as well. Stop assuming because I post facts that disprove myths, then I must only support China.

I never have been there and probably never will visit.

Meanwhile you only post anti-China things and peddle myths that have been proven wrong many times. I use facts, you use lies.

>>74733306

I posted the first one and nothing you've said counters it. So you can fuck off, you uneducated peasant.

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>>74733411

Did the CCP also take over Japan, USA, and Canada as well, or maybe, just maybe

medical practices have improved? Not that communist China ever contributed to that. It was all capitalist companies.

>>74733890
whether he's chinese or not isn't important, is it? You attack ideas to win the argument, not the poster.

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>>74728570
The one that didn't collapse embarassingly and changed their flag.

>Be USSR.
>have shitloads of economic reforms.
>[COLLAPSE]

>China
>Watch this: Communism with """"Chinese Characteristics.""""
>Prosper.

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>>74734299
>The one that didn't collapse embarassingly and changed their flag.

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>>74734345
>Unified China prior 1949
Lol.

To this day, Russians so can't into economy, thinking M-M-MUH OIL will solve everything. Pathetic.

Russia is the embarrassment of the white race.
>mfw Russian society is SO SHIT, their women marry Chinese men.

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>>74734243
medical practices have improved by whom? so in your logic, Japan, USA and Canada have higher life expectancy means communist China doesn't contribute to it? Then how do you explain communist Cuba has ranks higher than capitalist USA with much lower money spent on individuals? Did capitalism failed?

>>74734461

Russia is also an authoritarian shithole like China, no issue there.

>means communist China doesn't contribute to it?

Link me to one medical practice that was pioneered in China. Seriously. Do it. One that extends life expectancy.

China is a talentless nation that copies instead of innovates.

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>>74734475
source for per capita expenditure on health care

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>>74728570
Of those two? China. Of all countries? Somalia or something.

China:
>lacking in creativity
>never made a useful piece of software
>engineering consists of blatantly copying other designs and calling it their own
>buildings look good on the outside but are absolute fucking trash on the inside, deteriorate after a few years
Russia:
>creative
>made many useful pieces of software
>known for being good engineers
>buildings were built 50+ years ago, look depressing on the outside but still work fine despite little to no maintenance

>>74734461
But Russia isn't white.

>>74734569
>Russia isn't white
>said by a country full of sandniggers

>>74733166
IIRC he's some hapa airman(welfare queen unless he's a pilot) who for whatever reason is anti-U.S., I imagine he's ostracized.

>>74734784
>Trying to discredit a fact with a meme.

>>74734127
i dont hate you in all seriousness because you are up every time every single day overnight and always let me play with you. i unironically think you are pretty tolerant.

>>74734251
its because my post is just like that. as long as hes such a bot/spammer to show up on pretty much every thread china related, whoever can expose it. there're no such unspoken rules to overlook such zany trolls. same goes for I am a Greek and that cringy "another day wasted on 4chan" leaf. they always get mocked for being wack.
i wasnt going to make an argument this time but just outright criticize what he had been doing on /int/

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>>74729061
>easily brainwashed

Funny to see that from a person who lives in the country where people believe literally in everything the media tells them.

>>74729771
>>74729913
>>74730119
>>74732073
>>74732166
>>74732339
>>74732511
>>74732535
>>74732769
>>74734127
Hey there, ain't you the guy who said you have live in China for half of year or something right?

Really in every thread talked about China, it was alway you defend China to the point very bias. Can't you take any of criticism about China or not? Heck, even HK or China posters I see occasionally shit take about their country.

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>>74734893
okay /int/ peacekeeper

>>74734537
>Link me to one medical practice that was pioneered in China
I suppose this reply was for me, can you prove there's a direct relationship between pioneered medical practice and life expectancy? Again how do you explain communist Cuba?

>China is a talentless nation that copies instead of innovates.
if that's the case, why did NSA try to steal technology from China via cyber attack? Is wikileaks lying or being controlled by communists?

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>>74734537
also why your capitalist govt so evil? I thought it's a democracy? Does it mean an average american is this sneaky?

>>74732194
You're a fucking idiot by missing my point. The OP was saying the U.S. is worse because it pretends to be good but bombs people (I didn't even touch on the fact that if he has a problem with us bombing ISIS, the Taliban, Al Qaeda he's a moron), I said that China pretends not to get involved in other countries but has annexed and invaded neighbors to benefit their interests meaning they are just as shit in that regard. If you have a problem with U.S. military policy maybe you should have never joined the U.S. military.

>>74732339
>HIV
True.
>Lifespan
This is only because of Russian men dying young due to vodka. Female life expectancies are almost the same.
>Crime
Yes, heavily controlled society
>Murder
See above.
>Terrorist attacks
>Armed conflict within borders
But China has separatist movements too.
>Movie production
Low quality popular culture.
>Number of patents
Chinese "engineering" still remains terrible.
>Amount of books written
See above.
>Abortion rate
True.
>Drug use rate
This is caused by Russia being a depressing cold country and China having extremely strict drug laws. Sweden and Finland have large alcohol issues, and Sweden only sees such a low drug use rate due to sharia tier drug laws.
>consumption/possesion/purchase of marijuana: $200
>selling small amounts (up to 60g): 6 months
>selling large amounts: up to 10 years
>Societal homogeneity
Russia is a federation.
>Percent of muslims
Misleading statistics, they're mostly concentrated in Dagestan/Chechnya.

>>74735224
>if that's the case, why did NSA try to steal technology from China via cyber attack?
You answered it yourself, to fake China as the source. They've done this to other countries too.

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>>74735438
nope, the target of NSA attacks is the institute of high energy physics in CAS, they made a breakthrough in controlled nuclear fusion and NSA tried to steal it

>>74734251
Your right his ethnicity or nationality is irrelevant and the points are what is important. Unfortunately, many of his arguments are b.s., conveniently leaves out facts or when he's clearly wrong he moves the goalposts.

>>74735379

Men dying young mostly due to suicides, accidents and car crashes. Suicide rate among children and young people in Russia is the highest in the world.