How can we get Mexicans to stop murdering one another?

>>74697617

Killing all the mexicans.

>>74697617
military occupation
make sure tgat the mexican people feel you are a liberator

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Ah yes the power of """"""""""americant media""""""""""""

Cue Mexicans blaming the US for not wanting Heroin and Meth in their country and saying we should just legalize everything to solve Mexico's problem of having people that want to kill each other to make money selling life-destroying drugs to people in our country.

>>74697617
I know this country is suffering right now of violence issues, but that's sincerely total BULLSHIT

for every maxican killed 2 more spawns

>>74698187
How can the virgin islands have such a high murder rate? Wasn't there only like 100 people there?

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>>74698542
It is, they choose to pick our crime conflict as a war/crime hybrid so they could ignore all other murder statistics in the world and just compare us to Syria
>>74698651
Low population fucks up all statistics

>>74698696
Dude fuck americans, we should really do something

>>74698187
>st. pierre

what the fuck?

>>74698568
"Spawn more overlords"

>>74698187
What the fuck is wrong with mestizos, why are their countries so violent? How do we stop the spic menace

>>74698789
*nods photon cannon towards you*

>>74698651
You'd be angry too if you were a virgin.

>>74698805
No culture is better than any other anon thats just our way of expressing. You like shitty food we like to kill people. Please respect our way of life.

>>74698805
You're viewing them in the context of modern western society. We used to be just as violent, if not more so really.

If you took early 1900s Britain, people and everything, transported them to 2017 and exposed them to modern technology and culture, they wouldn't just immediately adapt to our standards. It'd take decades for them to look like 2017 Britain, and by then 2050 Britain would be critizing now 2017 Britain for not having adopted Sharia law yet.

>>74698356
It IS the fault of the USA, though. If your culture wasn't full of such selfish, cancerous people, there wouldn't be a massive drug industry in Mexico, which both the cartels and the American government ultimately benefits from.
Your nation is a stain on the entire continent.

>>74700366
>It IS the fault of Australia, though. If your culture wasn't full of such selfish, cancerous people, there wouldn't be a massive drug industry in the Philippines, which both the cartels and the Australian government ultimately benefits from.

>>74697617
>How can we get Mexicans to stop murdering one another?
stop the war on drugs, seriously our situation is no different than that of proxy wars between RUS and USA, except is USA against itself this time.
Is a fucked scenario.
>american citizens buy drugs from cartel
>cartels get enough power to bribe both mexican and american officials
>US government sells weapons to cartels
>Mexico's government has to declare war on drugs because US told us so
>US funds mexican's military with logistics, intelligence and equipment
>US sells more weapons to cartels
For the US it's the most profitable thing to keep on with the war, privatized jail system thrives with drug dealers arrests meaning government can rise taxes through fear, more arrests = more backlash from cartels meaning US gets to sell more and more weapons to both the mexican military and cartels.

>>74700366
The irony of Australia posting this where there is a huge black market for cigarettes because they are so heavily taxed there.

>>74700366
Your drug usage levels are similar to ours you dolt and you beat us in certain hard drugs and alcohol

>>74698187
Why south america is such a shithole ?

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>>74699894
>2050 Britain would be critizing now 2017 Britain for not having adopted Sharia law yet.

>>74703549
>only two south america countrys in the list

>>74698187
>2016

>>74701250
>stop the war on drugs
this. americans artifically raise the price for drugs, thus basically funding the cartels

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>>74697617
STOP FUNDING THE FUCKING DRUG WAR AND LEGALIZE DRUGS ALREADY YOU FAT FUCK

>>74698852
underrated

>>74709923
Can't do, tobacco and alcohol industry has too much moneys for lobbying and would not like it if legalized hard drugs started cutting into their profits.

>>74698187
I thought Panama was developed?!?! Turns out it's just another violent central American shithole

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>>74709051
That's not the reason, you idiot. OP pic is talking about exclusively armed conflicts (i.e. wars), and it's counting the total number of deaths, not the rate. Why do you think Brazil is missing in there?

>>74710425
mmm yes this image has enlightened me to how disgustingly brutish canada and the rest of yurop is

>>74710546
So you are an idiot then. Ok.

>>74700366
You have to go back, Wang.

>>74697617
remove drugs

>>74698356
>the US for not wanting Heroin and Meth in their country
If only this was fucking true, there wouldn't be such thing as cartels.

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>DUDE JUST LEGALIZE DRUGS LMAO

The only time people will blame drug users over pushers are when it's the US involved.

WE should be chiding YOU for destroying our communities.

Hehe, you're just a baby.

Watch this:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2016/10/28/as-crime-wave-hits-brazil-daily-death-toll-tops-syria/#e0475b51b7f7

Give the cartels more guns. Fast and Furious was a huge success

>>74698187
>Brazil
well they need the ingredients from somewhere

>>74698356
>Cue Mexicans blaming the US for not wanting Heroin and Meth in their country

tfw there are people this delusional in my country. Drug money pays for too much shit, if it's not dope and coke it'll be opioids.

>>74713276
I really don't get it, we're both the user and the pusher.

>>74715475
CHI

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>>74698187

>>74698956
>No culture is better than any other anon
>Implying goatfuckers are even as good as homicidal mestizos

>>74709923
How about you stop selling drugs? Marijuana is one thing but we're never going to legalize heroin or amphetamines.

>>74709923
LMAO just relagizse da drugz..

>>74709923
That's degenerate. No fucking way

>>74697617
I don't understand how you can be so angry when you have so many tacos

>>74716106
>STOP SELLING DRUGS EVEN THOUGH WE WONT STOP BUYING THEM!

>>74715574
That accounts for a murder rate of 20, still far from being second. OP pic is not about rate, is about the total number of deaths in fucking wars. Out of all the countries on that list, only Mexico is at war, along with Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan.

>>74716339
CA

>>74716412
NC actually

>>74716106
>>74716212
>>74716273
What Mexico should do is stop the war and let cartels reach the border as they please. You can do whatever the fuck you want inside your degenerate shithole.

>>74716339
Yes this is what I am suggesting

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Just go live in non shithole Mexico.

>>74716375
Most of our murders are drug war/gang war related too, should it not count? Also US media does the same thing here. Chicago is considered the muder capital even though the murder rate is like 8 something and not in the top 10 but in terms of raw numbers a lot more than any other city.

>>74698187
>2013
>op's image clearly says 2016
are you retarded?

>>74716631
>drug war
you don't have an ongoing war familia.

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>>74716631
Guess when the Drug War started.
>>74716712
OP pic is talking about a different thing, not murder rate.

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>>74716620
enhance

>>74716723
Are you kidding me? We've had a war on drugs since the 80s.

>>74716736
>2013 again
>op pic is talking about 2016
please tell me you're not this stupid

I think we should focus on improving economic conditions in Mexico so that people don't have to resort to illegal shit for higher standards of living

>>74716764
Troops are not being deployed in cities, curfews are not a thing, it doesn't even classify as a conflict. You don't have to deal with high ranking bosses, instead you only deal with petty drug dealers and addicts. Your president saying war on drugs doesn't automatically make it one unless a war is actually declared by the congress like in Mexico.

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>>74716764
War on drugs and Drug War are not the same thing, you fucking idiot.
>>74716773
It is not talking about the same thing. OP pic is talking about ongoing armed conflicts, ignoring everything else. Yes, 2016 was way worse that 2013, from a murder rate of 15 to one of 20, still not second deadliest by fucking far.

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>>74698805
There is no stopping us, your women will be jumping the brown pogostick for cheap thrills and your men will be seduced by STD ridden bundas, by the time you realize your errors 10k of us would be born(from which 5k would die by the hands of organized crime)

>>74716473
Do that and you'll get a trade war Mexico will never win or recover from. We will stir up, arm, finance, and guide every single hostile agent and group in Mexico to turn your country into Somalia 2.0

Think carefully about what you want

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>>74716865

>>74716736
1971

>>74716917
>thinking it's in our interest to make a failed state out of a nation we share a continent-sized border with

you didn't think too hard about this one, shartboy

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>>74716917
Illegal under WTO law. You are going to lose the same way you lost the tuna battle.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/25/news/economy/mexico-us-wto-tuna/

>>74716953
War on Drugs =//= Drug War (literal war with armed troops deployed on the streets).
The Drug War, (not the war on drugs) started on 2006.

Why nobody blame shitty Latin American laws?

I don't understand.

Not a single Latin American country have death penalty, neither life imprisonment.

We have subhuman homicide rates because our elites want Western European laws for unneducated people

Muh human rights

>>74716917
>We will
you have no power over shit cletus, stop day dreaming and making mental jerk offs on shit you have no control over.
No one said a thing about the human rights violations in our soil and no one made a trade war when were doing shit for 14 years after the signing of NAFTA, no one will say shit if we just stop the war on drugs.

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How do we stop Americans from shooting up schools?

>>74717053

Because you always fall into /pol/ maymays of crime = race related.

Please just ignore /pol/.

>>74717053
The Drug War is basically a death penalty for narcos. I don't get why Duterte gets so much acclaim on this meme site for doing the exact same thing we have been doing for the last 10 years. Guess what, literal death squads exterminating cartel members left an right has barely scratched the drug trade, while increasing the murder rate.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/27/world/americas/mexican-militarys-high-kill-rate-raises-human-rights-fears.html
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2016/05/mexican-military-most-efficient-killers.html
http://www.inquisitr.com/3135597/mexican-military-kill-rates-leave-people-fearful/

Death penalty means jack shit.

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>American war on drugs since the 70s
>Mexico provides illegal drugs to Americans
>trillions (!!!) of American dollars pour into the Mexican economy over the last 40 years
>no legitimate Mexican industries arose from the influx of cold hard cash
>40 years later and the best they can manage with all that money is still selling drugs to Americans

The problem isn't America, Paco. Mexicans are a thoughtless slave people enslaved to the master race. This fact will never change.

/thread

>>74716862
Semantics. The vast majority of murder and prisoners are due to the war on drugs. These are not petty dealers only. Gangs control all of illicit trade and are highly powerful, even if not as much as cartels. But even then cartels funnel the drugs through these gangs.

>>74716865
Of course it is. It is just reserved to ghettos. If it was plaguing easy street guaranteed the response would be similar.

>>74698741
>count 1
they're ike 15

>>74717298
>the difference between deploying armed troops who function as death squads in a declared war which is an ongoing armed conflict, and enforcing laws are semantics
You are retarded

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>>74717202
Better pic.

>>74717287
>trillions (!!!) of American dollars pour into the Mexican economy
wut?

>>74717053
>>74717272

The homicide rates of Philippines dropped more than 40% after Duterte.

Why don't you stop pretending being Western and copy Asian laws?

>>74717493
Why do Koreans kill themselves?

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>>74717485
>t. Mexican intellectual

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>Mexicans are part Native American and part Spaniard
>Native Americans are part Siberian and part East Asian
>therefore, Mexicans are hapas

woah

>>74717493

Only rich and middle class Latin Americans suck European dicks. They are the vast majority of leftist lawyers and politicians that make the laws.

>>74717428
This is missing a ton of shootings

At first I thought it only counted the west but then there's Kenya in there

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>>74717603

>>74717392
Certain communities are warzones.

Serious question. Are Mexican troops killing cartel members on sight or in retaliation. Basically do they give them a chance to surrender first every time they come across them or just start shooting.

>>74717544
hey don't make fun of sandals and sombreros Tyrone, I'll fuck you up good.

>>74717703
>Are Mexican troops killing cartel members on sight
do americans shart in mart? do brazilians eat macaco?
the answer is yes

>>74717809

You are too butthurt to speak seriously.

>>74717493
Ah yes, it is incredibly peaceful. Have in mind that the first year of our 10 long year ongoing conflict saw 2000 related deaths, way less than the one in the Philippines. Pic related is not counted in the Philippines murder rate, whereas ours is.

>>74717703
>Serious question. Are Mexican troops killing cartel members on sight or in retaliation. Basically do they give them a chance to surrender first every time they come across them or just start shooting.

Read
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/27/world/americas/mexican-militarys-high-kill-rate-raises-human-rights-fears.html
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2016/05/mexican-military-most-efficient-killers.html
http://www.inquisitr.com/3135597/mexican-military-kill-rates-leave-people-fearful/

See
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmh9mgHLMOA

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>>74717847
Forgot pic

>>74717833
I was trying to make some silly joke just numb things down a lil, dont get too offended João

>>74717896

If you don't agree we need tough laws, death penalty and life imprisionment you are a disgusting gommie and Euro wannabe.

>>74717809
So then it's a meme?

>>74717847
I'll read it later when I have time but I have a question. Do you really want to leave cartels alone and do you think even if the US legalized all drugs that they still wouldn't be terrorizing your population and fighting other cartels for control and intimidating all facets of government?

>>74717703
*miniguns you and everyone around you from the air*

>>74718143
I'm aware of the video but not the context. Could have happened after a firefight.

>>74717972
the fuck?read again familia, have no idea what you talking about.
>>74718106
>So then it's a meme?
nope, we have hard evidence that brazilians do eat macaco and americans shart in mart, we also have hard evidence that military execute narcos on sight.
>also about the other question
narco is just business, plain and simple, as long as they have their profit they're happy, what's the point on bribing officials and making mayhem if it's more profitable to lay low and sell drugs to americans? If you cut the head of a cartel 7 others rise up, if you let that sole head to sell their shitty drugs everywhere but in mexico they get their profit and let everyone be.
Stop the war on drugs doesn't mean to stop enforcing law, it just means that a fucking chopper won't gun down an entire block.

>>74718143
Btw Mexican cartels also shoot down military helicopters.

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>>74718106
I want to stop the war, because it's stupid.
>>74717493
Made this just for you.

>>74718372
So then it's a meme.

Unless the government itself sells the drugs and leave it within private citizens hands, the criminality will always be there.
And you're nuts to ask for the US to legalize drugs. Even if they legalized possession they would never legalize selling. No first world nation does(excluding weed).

>>74718493
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_Portugal

Do whatever the fuck you want. If drugs are legalized, cartels lose 30 billions of dollars overnight, don't legalize them, the war on our side should stop. As simple as that.

>>74718553
I know about Portugal but you are still not allowed to sell. Only consume.

>>74718493
>And you're nuts to ask for the US to legalize drugs
don't give a fuck on what US wants or don't want to do, but in our side of the border we make our own rules and most if not all of us want the war on drugs to end.

>>74718584
And nothing has fucking happened. I already told you, if you want to keep giving away a 30 billion dollar market into the hands of psychopath murderers for literally no reason, we shouldn't be fighting a war FOR YOU.
Bottom line is, no matter what you choose to do, the war we are fighting is pointless and has costs us thousands of lives for literally no reason and with 0 benefits for anyone.

>>74718655
>>74718666
It's either you or us. Your government knows that.

>>74718720
Piss off already.

>>74718745
Nope. You are essentially Afghanistan but with drugs. Except right on our border.

>>74718720
i don't want to sound like a fanatic but i'd rather see a nut party taking over the country than watching any more mexican blood being spilled under US commands.

>>74718775
The war needs to end, period.

>>74718803
Then the US military will take over. Not sure if you guys understood what I was getting at.

>>74718852
are you 12 boy?

>>74718797
Where is the onus on cartels? They are killing your people, beheading any politician who speaks out, kidnapping women and children. You just wanna leave them be?

>>74718890
>>74718775

>>74718911
Ending the war is not leaving them be. And you know what? Leaving them be like Morocco does, is better than what we have now.

>>74718852
>if you don't want to be at war we will invade you!
America, everybody.

>>74718969
>Ending the war is not leaving them be.
What do you suggest

>>74718911
we don't even consume drugs, why do we have to spare lives in a war that is not ours? The kidnappings, the murders, the beheading started when we declared war on them.

>countless dollars trafficked to mexico for drugs
>50 years later mexico still hasn't utilized it

>>74718890
Not him but if the United states took the leash off it's military (war not world policing) Mexico would surrender in less than a month. Pray to God you retards never aggravate the average American to that point. You're an annoyance at best.

>>74718992
That's how it works. If a nation has a large criminal network aimed at another nation it is on the former nation to take care of it. And if not, then the nation affected must step up.

That's what happened in Afghanistan, which most of the world widely feels was justified.

>>74719054
>>74719088
Kim should nuke you already desu.

>>74719014
persecute them like in the US, tear down local organizations, arrest criminals, use letal force when necessary and take over narco assets.
Not the fucking shit that's happening down here, not choppers gunning down entire blocks, unreported mass killing, IED's, insurgency tactics and kill on sight policy.

>>74698542
i for one enjoy the drugwar. thx for the coke mexibros

>>74719110
He's talking about something else. I'm purely talking about US vs cartels. Even in Afghanistan we were allied with the government. Unless you guys wouldn't except it. Then it's a different story and would probably become a full out war.

>>74719054
if the united states were to end the world they fucking would, but what's the point of that?
What's the point on taking over a foreign country with 120 million people just because 1% of your population can't stop snorting coke and smoking meth?

>>74719054
>Not him but if the United states took the leash off it's military (war not world policing) Mexico would surrender in less than a month. Pray to God you retards never aggravate the average American to that point. You're an annoyance at best.
wow your country is full of yards with superiority complex, you're worse than frogs in europe by far senpai

>>74719127
That's a fair viewpoint. How many Mexicans feel that way and are they fighting to end it? US citizens got the US out of unpopular wars multiple times.

>>74699894
Yeah 1500+ years ago maybe, not now. The reason they're so violent is because Amerindians are violent subhumans who had an entire culture based on blood sacrifices. They're just doing what they were doing back in Aztec times.

>>74719195
It is illegal under Mexican law to allow foreign troops to be active in Mexican soil. Do you have any idea of why we even have that law?

>>74719306
Legalize it!

Why don't Mexicans just build their military and kill all white people?

>>74719351
>allowing am*ricans in mexican soil ever again
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastry_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican%E2%80%93American_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_War_(1910%E2%80%9319)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Veracruz

No

>>74717847
>>74717879
>dead drug addicts and drug dealers

Is that deathcount supposed to be bad or something? If you had the balls to do the same with your cartels, you wouldn't be in this shit situation.

>>74719110
I'm going to be honest, I actually wish he would. After all was said and done America would be better off with the twats in California or Washington gone. Plus it would unify the country against it's perceived enemies and set us on an unstoppable warpath.

It'll never happen but you should pray it doesn't for your sake.
>>74719207
It's a matter of what the American people would feel is appropriate if you stepped too far out of bounds. Which isn't likely but anything's possible.

The only reason we've been unsuccessful in places like Iraq and Afghanistan is because there are a handful of powerful Americans profiting off the situation. In a a true U.S. vs. Mexico war? Like I said, you'd lose big time, you'd better pray it never comes to that.
>>74719224
>Spain
lol

>>74697617
Fix our problems with marijuana and heroin. If we take away the cartels' main source of funding we destroy their power.

Kim hurry the fuck up!! Nuke the ameriroaches!!

>>74719421
Then stop telling us to change our laws to suit your cunt lmao

I think the Indios should run Mexico instead of the Mestizos 2bh. They are very peaceful compared to the rest of the country and rarely harm anyone.

>>74719511
People have told you multiple times ITT to do whatever the fuck you want. We need to end the war on our side in the mean time.

>>74719550
How would ending the war benefit your cunt?

>>74719460
>you'd better pray it never comes to that
I'd better pray for you not to choke on your own drooling saliva, I think is several times more likely to happen than an active invasion by a country that absolutely fails every time at invading other countries.

>>74719550
That was after 100 milliom thousand posts telling us to legalize drugs. Also answer this please >>74719252

>>74719596
how would keep it going benefit either of our countries?

>>74719601
We're bad at occupation, not invasion

>>74719516
This. Mestizos/criollos are trashy, violent, and corrupt

>>74719637
I mean presumably shooting cartel members reduces their ability to sell narcotics.

>>74697617
Start with killing everybody with drugs

>>74719688
Beat you to that for about 10 years, buddy >>74718478

>>74719678
and that has worked so well over the last decades right?

>>74719688
How is it working out so far by the way

>>74719724
What will allowing cartels to operate unmolested accomplish?

>>74719768
Reduce our murder rate around 3 times.

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>>74719601
>that absolutely fails every time at invading other countries
Ah, so you can't read. If it's any comfort to you, God protects the illiterate as well as the literate. I hope he loves you.
>>74719650
Honesty, we're not bad at occupation either. The Iraq occupation was a Donald Rumsfeld experiment to see if it could be done with a skeleton crew. That experiment failed obviously. Same reason we lost the Vietnam war, inept/incompetent politicians who wavered.

America has never lost a war it's people were committed to win.

>>74719799
And what about your rates of opiate addiction and overdose?

>>74719799
I thought it doesn't count towards the murder rate

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It's the war on drugs. As long there is some degenerate in US or Europe wanting to get high (demand) there will be still a lot of people who'll kill for all the cash (offer).

A kilo of coke can cost here 3.5k USD, but when it's sold to someone in the final destiny, the price raises 5x and even if we crack down on crime here (like we did in Rio years ago), the prices will go even higher (lack of competition = higher price tag at the end).

I personally don't give a shit, literally most of those murders are Narcos killing themselves for more money and selling routes. Your average LATAM Joe is more worried about getting robbed by Junkies.

tl;dr as long as you're not some impoverished nigger, you're fine. (not all times tho)

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>>74719868
Not a problem

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>>74719883
Oh, yes, yes it does.

>>74719747
During first 6 months, atleast 20 dead bodies are found every day

Now its just one or two per week.

Million of drug addicts are now in big ass rehab center

>>74719914
I meant for you. Weren't you arguing earlier that it shouldn't count because it is stemmed from the drug war.

>>74719937
So do you feel it was a success and are most citizens happy

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>>74719688
>fascism just works
dis nicca know

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>>74719889
Hm. I suppose then that the drug war is waged more for our security than for Mexico's.

>>74719957
It shouldn't but it does.
>>74720036
Trafficking =//= consuming.

Why won't Mexiflags answer this question.
>>74719252

It's not a gotcha in any way. It's a legitimate question.

>>74720104
Narcos can die for all I care, nothing but subhumans.

>>74719252
I have not seen polls regarding this subject. It is noticeable that a great deal of Mexicans are already tired of the war, and for great reason. But a bunch of other Mexicans have not being affected by, I personaly haven't, but they are not even informed about the ongoing conflict. A ton of Mexicans are not even aware we are in a literal war, so they want to continue the idiocy. On the other hand, I posted a video of some soldiers executing suspected unarmed criminals in Puebla a couple of days ago, and there has been public outcry because of it.
>the government ever doing what the people want
That's not how it works here.

>>74720176
Did you just come in this thread because this answer is completely different from every other Mexican post ITT who say they want the war to end.

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>>74720104
You already know why. Mexicans are little more than cattle that only exist to serve for the pleasure of lowly American degenerate trash. See >>74720176
>I don't gives a shit about my countrymen

This has become the ultimate truth of their entire society at this point.

>>74720225
Of course he is, the Mexican right wing loves the war for some reason. I couldn't care less for narco lives either, but when killing them with death squads doesn't work and makes things even worse, it has to stop.
>>74720236
>the country with the most prisoners on earth is talking
>the country where police kills thousands of citizens and it's ok because they are niggers and spics

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>>74720268
>the country with the most prisoners on earth is talking
>the country where police kills thousands of citizens and it's ok because they are niggers and spics

Yeah, and our crime rate has been dropping steadily for decades. lol, correlation?

Turns out when you lock up niggers and spics the crime rates drops across the board.

>>74720211
>>the government ever doing what the people want
>That's not how it works here.

Well that's a bigger problem than anything that has to do with the US. The responses in this thread make it seem like it's up to us. I always see Euro cunts complain about their government doing things because of the US but that is on you guys. And if your government won't listen then it's still on you.

I'm not going to pretend like the government is at our whim but we literally have ended wars.

>>74720236
>I don't gives a shit about my countrymen
Not for those who kill, steal and murder.

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>>74719884
this tbqh

>143 painkiller perscriptions per 100 people
>some states have an average of 1.43 painkiler scrips per person, averaged with every man women and child

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>>74720526
And by extension all the innocent people those monsters victimize.

You're admitting you're cowardly piece of shit.

>>74720367
They don't listen to us, but they listen to you.
>>74720326
And there has also never been so many Mexicans in the US than ever before, while it is the safest it has ever been. Coincidence? I think not.

>>74720618
It`s a shame but in all wars die innocent people.
>You're admitting you're cowardly piece of shit.
How so? I´ll rather die that let those piece of shit go unpunished, and to send the massage that being a savage is okay as long as the goverment says so. We are not being harsh enough.

>>74720798
What percentage of our population do you think illegals account for? You sound like a fucking idiot.

The truth is that if we had as many Mexicans in America as you do in Mexico we'd have a comparable crime rate. Luckily for us the U.S. is still majority master race.

>>74720932
>whites in usa master race
jajaja son alto chiste papa

>>74697617
Is Drump behind this fake news or this is a new level of americans being dumb?

>>74721160
>jajaja son alto chiste papa
>Argentina
poetry

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>>74720932
Here are your Mexicans senpai. You don't have to thank me :^)

>can't increase the war aggression because we're not right-wing enough, "DO YOU JUST WANT TO START CARPETBOMBING OUR CHILDREN?!"
>can't decrease the aggression because that would be seen as backing down, "NO SOMOS MARICONES"
We're kind of fucked either way family.

>>74721332
Pretty much, but increasing aggression wouldn't work unless you literally kill millions of poor people. And you would have to be a fedora edgelord pseudo-Stalin wannabe to agree to that, let's be honest.

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>>74721298
>Hispanic = Mexicans
>t. Mexican intellectual
lol

>>74721422
>Mexican americans
>11.14% of the total population, 2015
>lowest murder rate in history

>Hispanics
>1% of your population in 1920
>Mexicans are even less than 1% as not all Hispanics are Mexicans
>higher murder rate in history

>More Mexicans (11% total) = lower murder rate
>Less Mexicans (<1% total) = higher murder rate

Seems pretty straightforward to me, senpai. But no worries, it's a pleasure :^)

>american intellectuals

>>74721393
Increasing aggression would turn us into a Syria-tier shithole, but I'd argue it's not outside the realm of possibility to severely reduce cartel influence and basically end the war that way through brute force, like ripping out a tumor with a hacksaw. What I meant in the first scenario was that, while we'd have to be a crazy right-wing populace to actually want that, it would serve to close out this conflict. But no, instead we just keep wasting lots of money and not making matters better.

>>74721298
>happy about being depopulated

>>74721546
>angry that he is safer while having more Mexicans than ever before
lel

>>74721298
>>74721521
>late 70s
>that spike in crime when all those Mexicans started invading the US
>that drop in crime as they're slowly imprisoned
lmao, did you forget about the part where you said we were locking up all the niggers and spics?

>>74721584
Mexicans have been going into the US since 1840's when you invaded. And they spiked in the 90s-2000s, at the same time your murder rate was decreasing. You are welcome, m8.

>>74720798
>They don't listen to us, but they listen to you.

Did you miss the whole post? That's your problem. Do something about it.

>>74721630
What do you suggest?

>>74721625
>>74721584
>both of these fucking idiots drawing meaningless parallels and trying to cite causation instead of simple correlation
You both need to leave the thread and take 5. Acting like retards doesn't help conversation.

>>74721669
I'm playing with his retarded logic. Worst part is that there have been studies in the US, done by peer reviewed research, directly correlating the decrease in the US crime with the amount of immigrants there is, as they commit less crimes than native born Americans on average, whether legal or not.

Now, do you really think you can have a decent conversation with this idiot? >>74720236
It's better to mock him.

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>>74721625
>chart shows crime spikes as late 70s Mexican immigrants start poring in
>crime rates slowly drops as we start imprisoning Mexicans
I know, observable facts are hard though.

>>74721758
Mexican immigrants started pouring in since 1840, and spiked in the 90s after the Mexican peso crisis and the signing of NAFTA. At the same time your crime decreased. Nice try sweetie, you don't need to keep being an ungrateful cunt, you can leave now.

>We will never live in a time when America starts to utilize drones onto the battlefield against the Mexican drug cartels and America starts doing some cool operator shit again like in the 60's
Imagine if America wanted to get serious about curbing the drug cartels.

>>74721830
Why don't you stop them on your side of the border? What is stopping you from doing that?

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>>74721729
>there have been studies in the US, done by peer reviewed research, directly correlating the decrease in the US crime with the amount of immigrants there is, as they commit less crimes than native born Americans on average, whether legal or not.
>>74721798
lol, pic related. What woulds a Mexican intellectual know about propaganda?
>White (Hispanic)
http://www.dps.texas.gov/Texas10MostWanted/SexOffenders.aspx

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>>74721758
why are you grasping at straws so desperately?

>>74721830
Or you can drone the shit out of your drug consumers firts and stop selling guns to cartels

>>74721884
You're right, causation is causation. Hence the drop in crime as we locked up the niggers and spics.

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>>74721924
are illiterate?

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>>74721924
>>74722082
*are you illiterate?

>>74697617
>93% Christian
RELIGION
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>>74722082
>>74722120
See >>74720268
>the country with the most prisoners on earth is talking
>the country where police kills thousands of citizens and it's ok because they are niggers and spics

Exactly. Because we locked the shit from your country up tight. What exactly don't you understand about this fact?

>>74721651
That's up to you.

>>74722273
Stopping the war seems like a good start, the candidate who is the most likely to win seems to be against it as well.

>>74720932
>U.S
>master race
Welcome to /int/, my brown comrade.

>>74722333
Well I don't think there is a better time than now with Trump's rise where people are their angriest about things imvolving the US.

Btw, if the policy is to shoot on sight why was El Chapo captured. Especially after he already escaped once. I don't think the plan all along was to give him up to the US so that can't be the reason.

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>>74722601
The plan is to shoot on sight at the bottom of the barrel among them. Drug lords are usually captured alive, unless they die during a shootout, and this often happens when the army doesn't know that the narcos they are currently engaging have high-ranking leaders among them.

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>>74722213
you seem incredibly dense

>>74721909
If you wanted to be comparable you would say our drug dealers and gangs and a lot of tough on drug US people would wholly support that in the US(not that I would). Also you said earlier that you are in a real war and we aren't.

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>>74722601
>Btw, if the policy is to shoot on sight why was El Chapo captured. Especially after he already escaped once. I don't think the plan all along was to give him up to the US so that can't be the reason.

because he's going to be america's salvation

>>74722770
So the most famous Mexican boss in the US is only number 31 in Mexico? That's surprising considering he is the most involved in the US.

>>74722875
That list is not in order of importance. See how there are drug dealers with a 15 million dollar reward above drug dealers with a 30 million dollar reward.

>>74722915
So he is the big dog over there then

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>tfw CHI- living comfy as fuck in the US

>>74722950
At the end of the day druglords don't matter in the grand scheme of things, they die or get captured = they get replaced just like that, which in turn makes the fights even more deadlier as they intensify the struggle for power within the cartels. Also, almost all of them are either dead or in jail, and the drug trade has continued almost the unscratched. The thing that has hurt them the most in all these years, was when several US states legalized marijuana.

>>74723037
That is similar to what happened in Chicago. Some people argue that taking out all the gang leaders caused a lack of structure and made things worse because gang members have no accountability to a higher power. For you it seems there is still a strict hierarchy though.

>>74701250
>US government sells weapons to cartels

>>74716339
the supply is so huge it boosts demand.
these narcos know what they are doing. you crack down on light drugs, they will literally flood us with hard drugs instead. fuck them.

>>74717202
right, let's go full whataboutism mode

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>>74723293
>the supply is so huge it boosts demand

War on drugs is the most retarded shit ever...that being said, population culling is necessary, specially in Brazil.

>>74697617
We need Mexican Stalin to send all criminals to Mexican Gulag.

>>74717603
>mexicans are mixed
>'woah'

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>>74722782
lmao
You don't like this at all, do you? You're citing studies that are extremely flawed/skewed because Hispanic crimes are counted as "white" in America. Someone's high up is protecting your cattle as far as national crime statistics are concerned. They'd pull hugely disproportional numbers if they were separated into their own individual group. The fact is that crime has fallen is due to criminal spics getting locked up, just like I've been saying all along.
Pic related.
>White (Hispanic)
Which brings me to my next point: you're trying to use facts that aren't fact at all and have nothing to do with what's being argued. See >>74722082
>All immigrants are Mexican/Hispanic
You don't have a leg to stand on so your trying to avoid the substance of the argument by pivoting into unrelated (and incorrectly collected) statistics.

>>74719110
We should let Kim build his bases here. Just4teh lolz

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>>74723723
now paco you know your american overlords would never let that happen

>>74723533
Funny that you mention Russia's commies.
Didn't you have some sort of Trotskistas movement in Mexicao and Trotsky was also killed there?

Apparentl this report was endorsed by drumpf

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/11/mexico-deadly-violence-international-institute-strategic-studies

>>74716106
They'd just be replaced by criminals from another countries if they stop selling them. Someone used to sell shit before Mexican cartels, and someone else will be there after them.

>>74723844
yeah I'm sure someplace like yugoslavia would step in and fill the void
you know because much like mexico they have all that easy access to our boarder and all

>>74698187
>Panama

wew I thought that with their relatively high GDP per capita and HDI they were doing better off

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>>74723814

I swear this faggot wants to do to us the same shit Bush did with Pakistan

>>74717428
>only one shooting near me
>and it was one muslim vs. marines
ABSOLUTE MADMAN

>>74723963
well it is going to be four long years... unless he gets impeached and thrown in jail and ass raped there

>>74700444
The phillippines produces our ice?