Is Marine Le Pen going to call for a recount? She really should.

>>74558484
No, it's not the same than in the US here.

>>74559015
What outlet does she have?

Theres no way she lost that badly, in a fair election.

>>74558484
What for? To be humiliated a second time?

She lost so brutally hard that no amount of poll rigging could have accomplished this. They would have had to fake 10 million votes.

>>74559064
What the fuck is wrong with Americans

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>>74559111
>there is no such thing as election fraud

Actually depressed about the result.

Didn't think I'd care. Goodbye France

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>34.2%

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>>74559131
>>74559140
I dont expect brits, who STILL live under a monarch, to understand much about this topic.

>>74559134
If you think there is some conspiracy controlling the election that can fake millions of votes, then why the hell would they not fake the recount too?

>>74559064
Actually she did the best score since the existence of this party.
there are also something you clearly not understand: Lepen is rejected by all medias and normies because considered nazi, not even a joke, people think like that on this retarded country, it was mostly because of her father Jean-Marie before.

It's not like Hilarry Clinton which was cocksucked by the establishment.
Lepen is an outsider and a lot more rejected than Trump.

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>>74559064
You underestimate just how much the FN is shunned in this country
I tried to warn you but you didn't listen
For half a century, it's been hammered in every french brain that FN = nationalism = nazism
People are fucking happy today, they're absolutely persuaded they saved France from the fascist menace
They don't particularly like Macron but they're absolutely sure selling France out this way to Rothschild's bastard child was better than handing it to Literally-Hitler

>>74559140

sad day for europe.

>>74559181
What are you babbling on about?

Let me be sad about France in peace.

>>74558484
More people didn't vote at all than voted for Le Pen.

She managed to go third place in a two people race.

>>74559182
>then why the hell would they not fake the recount too?
If votes are missing, they could be found. Its happened before.

>>74559213
>Lepen is an outsider and a lot more rejected than Trump.
I-is this true?

>>74559223
>You underestimate just how much the FN is shunned in this country
But she got this far? That must account for something.

>>74559276
>She managed to go third place in a two people race.
NOT TRUE, she wont in my eyes.

>>74559064
>>74559134
What the fuck would you know about it?

I'm sure you've got a perfect grasp on the French political system

Oh I'm sure you know all about how the average French person thinks and their beliefs because of all the time you spend overseas you fucking burger.

>>74559302
>If votes are missing, they could be found. Its happened before.
Again, if they managed to make 10 million votes be "lost", then why would they allow them to be found?
That just makes no sense. Either the freemasons rigged the whole thing, in which case recounting does nothing, or they didn't and recounting does ntohing because there was no rigging going on.

>>74559276

That's not true.

Abstention was around 25%.

>>74559348
This
Why rigging the votes when you can rig the voters' brains?
It leaves no material proof and it's as easy as that

>>74559302
>But she got this far?
Her dad also got this far.

Also, just so you don't get your hopes up, even if Macron fucks up, she'll lose to Melenchon next time.

The Le Pen name is way too stigmatized and she is too much of a unstable psycho to wash it clean. Thats why she dropped by 3-5% in the polls right after the debate where she completly fell apart.

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>>74559348
>then why would they allow them to be found?
Why would even allow Le Pen to run at all?

If what you're saying is true Le Pen would have been jailed a year ago.

>>74559328
I know enough to ask a question, I'm not pretending to know anything.

>>74559171
Even less, actually. With all districts counted, she's at 33.94%.

I didn't think I'd be happy, but I am. Macron absolutely crushed her. Polls were wrong again.

>>74559407
>That's not true.
You forgot to count blank votes, which were 8%.
Hell you can literally just do basic math of subtracting the amount of votes for both of them from the total eligible voters.

>>74559467
>If what you're saying is true Le Pen would have been jailed a year ago.
Actually you are the one speculating on the conpsiracy that can fake 10 million votes, I'm saying you are retarded because if they could fake on that level recounting makes no sense.

>>74559504
Cuck.

A "gommunisd" lost

Righties should be celebrating

>>74559504
>Polls were wrong again
In which world?
No poll ever gave Le Pen winner, at most it was 60/40

>>74559450
>she'll lose to Melenchon next time.
But she beat him round 1?


>>74559539
>you are the one speculating on the conpsiracy that can fake 10 million votes
No, I havent said 10 million votes have or were faked. You are making suggestions for me.

>if they could fake on that level recounting makes no sense.
You would never know if anything was faked without a recount or reassessment.

>>74559302
>I-is this true?
OF COURSE IS FUCKING TRUE
WE HAVE LITERALLY AN ANTI-LEPEN PROPAGANDA SINCE THE 80's.
everything started since Jean-Marie Lepen said something about some lobbys abusing using the shoah and gas chambers propaganda for some political interests.
since it, Medias and Television people started to constantly repeat he's a nazi, a racist and a fascist, and french people are fucking sheeps so they started to massively believe it.

and now it's the same with her daughter, the nazi-racist stigma and also some new stuff about the EU, like abandonning the currency and the union will ruins us.
Macron was the candidate of the establishment, competly cocksucked by every mainstream medias, even being a ridiculous puppet, it worked and still can't believe it.

you know burgers, in front of all this retardation, I want to genocide my own people because in fact we completly deserve this to be so stupid, this year they were a huge variety of different intersting choices and they elected the worse.

>>74559504
>Polls were wrong again.
but they weren't

the only ones that were were some Swiss exit poll, but all the other polls painted the same picture

>>74559589
That's what I mean. They over-estemated her.

>>74559213
>s-she is n-no nazi, I swear
Tu ne le crois pas vraiment, j'espère.

>>74559615
>OF COURSE IS FUCKING TRUE
Le Pen a bigger outcast than Trump?

i dont know.

>>74559603
>No, I havent said 10 million votes have or were faked.
Thats what it would take for her to have won though.

>>74559603
>But she beat him round 1?
Not next time. And even if she gets first next round 1, everyone will again back whoever she is up against. To the average french, there is literally no advantage to voting Le Pen over Melenchon.

>>74559603
>But she beat him round 1?

I don't think you get it. She would have probably lost against him in the second turn if he had been qualified.

Most French still consider her a a Nazi and will never ever vote for her.

She can try all she wants, at the end of the day she will still be Jean-Marie's daughter.

>>74559627
Sure, exit polls were pretty accurate.

>>74559663
They were some fascist influence on the roots of the party during the 70's (Ordre Nouveau) but it was removed and remade in the 80's with just Jean-Marie and some new crew.
the FN was a tiny little shit during the 70's and impopular as fucks, also the fascists inside it separated from it and created their own fascist group which disappeared.

>>74559627

Swiss exit polls were saying exactly the same thing actually.

At least the ones I've seen.

>>74559697
>she will still be Jean-Marie's daughter
She would be more credible if has she not just affirm that Frenchies had no role whatsoever in the Shoah.

>>74559677
Trump was not even a politic on the first place and appreciated like some television funny guy.
Lepen was fucking hated since the beginning.
and same for his daughter, just because she's his daughter.

>>74559693
>And even if she gets first next round 1, everyone will again back whoever she is up against.
If as the terror attacks continue?

Paris is literally under military protection; how long can that go on?

>>74559697
>She would have probably lost against him in the second turn if he had been qualified.
But she already beat him once? By a lot.

Shes got more qualifications in the 'final round' category.

>>74559728
well, there was one specific Swiss one that kept being posted by /pol/tards that had Le Pen winning, I can't remember which exact polling firm it was

Anyway, the result is pretty much exactly what the polls predicted.

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>>74559761
>Lepen was fucking hated since the beginning.
>and same for his daughter, just because she's his daughter.
And for her to have gotten this far is promising.

Its not impossible for a candidate to lose their 1st run for Presidency.

>>74559754
*had she not, duh

>>74559725
"Some fascist influence", you're so ridiculous it hurts. They were literally a group of neonazis and you know it, Jean-Marie has always minimised the Holocaust and Marine still denies all the responsibility of France.

>>74559754

She did not say that actually.

She said that FRANCE was not responsible for the Vel d'hiv.

Implying that for her true France was in London.

She did not denied the involvement of Vichy France.

That's actually something Mitterrand said and a lot of others politicians.

>>74559763
>If as the terror attacks continue?
And how is she going to convince people that she can make them stop exactly? She fucking can't.

And since thats her only platform and Melenchon is even more anti-EU than she is, she has literally no platform against him.


>But she already beat him once? By a lot.
She beat him by less than Macron beat her.

>>74559763
Believe me when I say a fucking giant squid would win an election against Le Pen
This is HOW BAD she is hated

>>74559829
>And how is she going to convince people that she can make them stop exactly?
By removing Muslims

:DDD


Or at the VERY VERY least, not let anymore refugees and immigrants in.

>>74559763

In the Second round Mélanchon would have been backed by a lot of voters that voted for other candidates in the first round.

That's how it is in France. There is a coalition against the FN whoever is against even if it worked less well this year.

>>74559763
You don't get it. She has to win over 50% of the votes in order to win the presidency. But there's an invisible ceiling she can't overcome.

It's called cordon sanitaire - everyone from the centre-right to the far-left bands together to keep the far-right candidate out of power.

>>74559878
>By removing Muslims
Except she doesn't want to do that. According to her "french" muslims are okay.
so basically all muslims because most of them already got french citizenship anyway and you won't know their allegiance until they stab you in the street.
Le Pen isn't even extremist enough to properly garner extremist right votes except by association with her dad.

>>74559835
Well I liked her, at least.


>>74559902
>There is a coalition against the FN whoever is against even if it worked less well this year.
Doesn't FN have control of French chambers and legislatures?

>>74559924
>But there's an invisible ceiling she can't overcome.
Not funny.

>>74559937
>Le Pen isn't even extremist enough to properly garner extremist right votes
Thats a damn shame.

Why are Europeans so sexist?

>>74559794
>Its not impossible for a candidate to lose their 1st run for Presidency.
But it's not her first run to presidency.
she was already a candidate on 2012 and was third.
>>74559807
you know nothing stupid macaroni, they were fascists inside Ordre Nouveau (and actual people from the Division SS charlemagne) but not neonazis with le skinhead maymay, also that people separated.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_national_(parti_fran%C3%A7ais)#Origines
and he minimised the holocaust for good reasons, because there are some jewish lobby here who use it to avoid every critics.
not my fault if you are a fucking kike obsessed by the holocaust.

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>>74559969
>she was already a candidate on 2012 and was third.
Third time is charm, she is getting better and better.

Don't lose hope, froganon.

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>Marine Le Cuck

This disgusting whore needs to be shot.

>>74559968
FN has 2(two) senators and 2(two) deputies. It's likely they're going to get more in June, but they'll remain a marginal minority.

>>74559878

On the top of the coalition against her, two things are wrong with Le Pen.

1) She is affiliated with her father and that repulse a lot of left wing people.

2) she followed Phillipot in his economic policy which is left wing and scares a lot of right wing voters.

She can't win

>>74559969
>and he minimised the holocaust for good reasons, because there are some jewish lobby here who use it to avoid every critics.
>not my fault if you are a fucking kike obsessed by the holocaust.
Everyone knows the holokek is just a political instrument, but 'saying' it is completly retarded.
Its not so much his political stance that discredits him there but his lack of sound judgement to talk about it.

Even here in holocaust guilt-land most people think its retarded bullshit, but we kept our head low and now our media celebrates politicians for BTFOing isreal politicians because they played it smart.

>>74560078

The father had never want to be elected in the first place. He did not give a crap about what he said.

>>74560027
They better hope for Marion to not be a psycho like Marie and Marine so they can have a electable right-wing candidate in ten years.

>>74559969
>he minimised the holocaust for good reasons, because there are some jewish lobby here who use it to avoid every critics.
>not my fault if you are a fucking kike obsessed by the holocaust.

Here it is, the typical FN voter. And you wonder why people still think that you're nazis?
For the record, neonazi doesn't necessarily imply meme tattoos.

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>>74560066
Le Penis kicked her father out of the party to be more kosher.

Le Penis refuses to discuss Jews. The whole reason Muslims are raping France.

Le Penis is shit.

>>74560141
>Le voting meme

You can't change a Jew run """democracy""" by voting you stupid fucking retarded shit

>>74560123
Well he fucked it up for his daughter too, so tough shit then.

Honestly if Marine would have had a ounce of brain in her head she'd have agitated for more power to the European parliament where she can actually get elected into and can team up with other eurocritics to bust the whole thing from inside.
But the eurocritics and extreme left and right in europe is a bunch of morons.

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>>74560066
>She can't win
>>74560141
>They better hope for Marion to not be a psycho like Marie and Marine
LEAVE MARINE ALONE

>>74560166

She might have kicked him out and yet she has his name.
In the mind of a lot of French that makes not difference.

>>74559134
>American lecturing the French on fair elections

>>74560223
I'm not lecturing anyone on fair elections, just making a reasonable suggestions to re access what happened.

The US has the fairest election system in the world, any bimbo knows that.

>>74560182

That would be a PR suicide for her.

>>74560212
I'm saying that she and her niggerloving friends are worthless. Only dumb meme nationalists like le pen(is) and everyone else isn't buying it

>>74560264
>crappy two party system that elects leaders no one likes

phew.

>>74558484
2bh marine le pen seems batshit insane. I don't blame the french at all. Although if it were me living there, I don't think I could vote for anyone else after those terror attacks.

>>74560287
She could easily sell it as part of her "Europe of nations" shit. Afterall she only needs to get power from the Commission and Council to the parliament, not new power into the EU.

>>74560223
>>74560296
>(((democracy)))

Ah yes

Where's that wall? :^)
What prison is Hillary held in? :^)

>>74560148
>POINT GODWIN LULZ

>>74560148
Wait, are you saying there aren't political lobbies using the holocaust as excuse and attempt to pressure people?
Because really, thats not a conspiracy theory, thats just obviously true.

Hell, even most jews are fed up with this shit by this point.

>>74560338

Probably not actually.

She somehow managed to have voters think she is not for the "system" (whatever that means).

Playing with EU rules would automatically associate her with the system in the minds of her voters.

>>74560419
I'm not french, so you probably know better than me if you're from the Romandy, but I figure she could retain some people and get some new ones on the "prettier" image of a reformer, afterall she wouldn't need millions to become president, just enough to become EPM (or stay EPM as it were).

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>mfw /pol/

>>74560524
Only shame about this being over is that there isn't any election where I can enjoy /pol/ tears again for years.

>>74560524
>>74560628
What the fuck is wrong with you mentally ill people?

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>>74559213
So will france's new president fuck your country up by letting in more refugees

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>>74560524
It's a sight to behold at the moment.

>>74561011
They're all Germans
Germans are irredeemable

>>74564690
/pol/tards deserve to be given shit for being the largest source of cancer in over a decade. When there is a specific incident which can be taken advantage of, it makes sense to use it.
The fuck is irredeemable about that?

>>74559302
To be fair Macron is more similar to Trump. He won with marketing.