today france betrayed europe

>>74544994
Putin BTFO

Today France decided to revive Europe.

>>74545071
spbp

Actually, today France cucked Europe.

Fuck the alt-right. I hope this is a sign of things to come in my own country. If the GOP loses their house majority in 2018 that would be just great.

>>74545071
>>74545071

>>74545482
I'm cautiously optimistic about 2018, brother burger, but I just wish the dumber echelons of our population didn't have to learn everything the hard way.

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>>74544994

Nothing new.

>>74544994
>today

The next to watch is Italy.

>>74545071

This.

Fascists, commies and whatever the fuck Putin is got rekt'd

France is becoming a North African colony.

>shoot yourself
>"HA! take that putin"

>>74545071

You cant revive someone terminally ill.

im a normal guy
im a swell guy
im a nice enough guy
im a cool kinda guy
im a pretty groovy guy

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Fuck off Krelim.

Who won?

>>74544994
are you for real?
had le pen won, you would have to kiss all those sweet eu monies goodbye

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>>74545071

>>74546628
Macron with like 66%

>>74545071
Mudslime!

>>74546628
Everyone won except Russia. It was a pretty nice day.

>>74546628

The Eurocrat.

>>74546431
>becoming
In the 90s yes, you probably meant to type became. It's official now.

France is now Maroc et Plus

>>74546676
money money money money
kill yourself retard

>>74544994
Good
the french belong to Merkel

Is /pol/ tired of winning?

>>74544994
She lost because of sexism.

>>74546676
That's the thing Le Pen was a good candidate but a Frexit would not make any sense the French aren't as powerful as the U.K. Regardless of what other Europeans may think the U.K has a Commonwealth to fall back on and the U.S the French not so much. The EU has it's benefits for mainland and cohesive European countries. Final decision Macron was the correct choice in this situation.

>>74546938
Macron has never worked for EU.

>>74546870
Why are liberals so obsessed with Russia?

>>74545482
Dems will flop in 18 probably since the only thing they can say to promote themselves is "we're not trump!"

>>74544994
What the fuck, Latvians really are all Russian diaspora.

France just said "Nah, fuck you, this ends here, we want a strong and relevant Europe"

>>74547061
Why are conservatives so obsessed with sex?

But to answer your question, it's because they're a powerful nation that's meddling in western elections. It's rather troubling.

>>74547061
They have no vision of their own so they laughably try to pull McCarthyist shit.

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>>74546313
now it's time to take in refugees

>>74547155
You're meddling with foreign elections too, so what's the matter?

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>>74547075
Yes you are gonna get your relevant and strong Europe

>>74547040

Who says he hasn't?

>>74547061
They ignore the fact that the USSR infiltrated the Democratic party and the American Media yet they listen like obedient children when Carlos Slim owned NY times tells them Trump is Putins puppet

>>74547004
Do you think they really care the French are not about right wing politics?

>>74547249
Yeah that's troubling too, and people are right to complain about it and should complain more loudly and more often.

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>news keeps saying Macron is a young man
>44 years old
Does this make me basically a child at 25?

>>74547163
>the Russians, the Russians are everywhere!!1
Modern liberals are acting like conservatives did in the 70s

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Does french hacking protection goes so far?

>>74547315
Nobody outside of the west blames America for losing the election like you retards do with Russia, it's so laughable and pathetic

>>74547376
This. It's truly appalling. Can't wait for third wayist libs to die out. If they ever do I guess.

>>74546628
The muslims

>>74547004
you really think the Commonwealth countries were just waiting for their fomer overlord to leave the EU, so they can make free trade agreements?

>>74547478
Want to trade countries, Trumpcuck?

say hi to poltards:
>>>/pol/124529297

>>74547569
Stop assuming things, retard. I hate Trump

So, what does the new French King stand for?

>>74547678
macroni and cheese

>>74547245
we already have

>>74547702
Bit obvious that macaroni was going to win from penne.

>>74547187
glad this doesn't work like Betelgeuse

>>74547569
>lib media is being retarded and anyone that disagrees is a drumpf supporter
Really?

>4 more years of this
France YES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tSYGfEg1IY

Russia lost today

>>74547376
it's fucking hilarious given their history of being communist sympathising peaceniks. but i guess since the pidors hate gays now or something it's okay.

>>74547318
Honestly, yeah.

Tmes change anon, 13 used to mean you were an adult.

In the US it's 26.

>>74547061
because "it's the current year" man said so

>>74547459
The hackers managed to get the mails but found nothing incriminating so they dumped them mixed with (confirmed) fakes yesterday in a last ditch effort to influence the outcome.

Hon hon hom.

>>74544994
>t. putin shill
t. hate EU and nigger immigration

France is fucked

Literally will not care when they get attacked next

>>74547648
>>74547781
Well, sorry. In my defense, it's an easy assumption to make around 4chan.

>>74545071
Oui
>>74545482
Trump poisoned the well for the right internationally by being a retard like Bush.

>>74545482
If the Dems were stupid enough to fuck up in 2016, they'll find a way to fuck up next year too.

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>>74547762
guess its just my dumb eastern euro brain that thinks that if you're getting constantly attacked then maybe its time to do something about it, i dunno.

What's marcon's policies anyways

>>74547318
hes 39

>>74548002
Pro EU centerism. The Hillary of France.

>>74547946
They'll reap what they sow

>>74548002
He's a liberal. Pro-business and capital, socially progressive.

>>74548071
France is already socially progressive so i hate to see how further they are going to slip

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>>74547946
No no you just don't understand. We need to be more open and kind to them and they will change.

Conservatives/right wingers just don't understand

>>74547946
I'm not all that scared about a few retard coming in my country with rifles and killing a few persons.

Take away the political message and all you've got is a few dead people lost in a sea of statistics.

>>74547318
Well, he's the youngest president France has ever had.

>>74548187
Youngsters were a mistake

>>74547061
why russia so obsessed with my region?

>>74547946
Protip: Terrorists actually wanted and will still want Le Pen or whoever stands for the far-right to win, so more pressure is put on muslims and thus they can justify their brutal attacks against westerners because ''muh oppression against us''.

>>74548157
> just be nicer to them
But historically that has never worked..

>>74548170
You aren't scared that the next muslim country with nukes will be France?

>>74548232
I love you ;_;

>>74548170
Yeah, but the political message IS there. Fear that results from these attacks are much more of a threat than the actual deaths. I don't think the goatfuckers actually hope to take France out directly.

>>74548170
top kek.
Good on you France, if this is the future you want.
Just remember when it becomes summer and you get the opportunity to greet hundreds of thousands of Africans who will enrich your country.

>>74548232

National Security.

>>74548288
Yeah okay but this time it's different. It's like, 2017 now you know

>>74548232
Because Putin says that it belongs to them, always have and always will.

Asked a Russian guy this; he told me 'How would you feel if Texas decided to leave the USA?'

Also said there's no such thing as a Ukrainian language

>>74548313
We love you too, your government is what we have a problem with.

>>74545071
how do you figure

>>74548271
ah yes, if you kill your enemies they win

ancient canadian proverb

>>74548398
There's no such thing as Texan culture

>>74548439
this desu

>>74546526
Why are Spanish posts always so depressing? Don't you live in a happy sunny Mediterranean country?

>>74548506
Crisis and high unemployment for years

>>74548476
What about Coca Cola and good ole Texas bbq?

Why are no Frenchies posting?

>>74548271
extortion? lmao how much longer before the muzzies start charging a street tax to native french businesses?

>>74548506
He's probably depressed, why wouldn't he enjoy the nice weather outside

>>74547004

>>74547567
^ this

imagine you're the leader of any (not australia or new zealand) commonwealth country and britain comes crawling to you for a trade deal

imagine the PR value of rejecting it

>>74548473
You don't get it do you? You have to resort to memes to prove a point which doesn't exist?

>>74548599
They don't like tourists so they went elsewhere

>>74548589
American

>>74548599
Depressed

>>74548476
cowboys

>>74548613
That will never happen, and you know it, but I don't know why you reply to me with that.

>>74548661
Western from California to Idaho. Not specific to Texas

>>74545053

This. Why do all European far-right parties suck either Russian or Israeli dick?

>>74548506
This. Spain would be an absolute paradise land if it had jobs.

>>74548589
>coke is from ga
>bbq from kc and sc

>>74548476
This is equivalent to the "there is no American culture" meme

>>74548694
just wait until their population increases. jesus, even now they're a minor fraction of the population and look how many problems they're causing.

>>74548476
accent
hat
oil
cow with horns

>>74548793
Texas like the u.s. is really good at appropriating other cultures.
Surfing is a traditional Texan sport btw

>>74548774
it does have jobs, people is just whiny

well to be fair, getting a job here is objectively harder than in countries with lower unemployment, but the thing is, the crisis is also creating a culture of whining and doing nothing about it when you cant find a job, and people being ok with living with their parents at fucking 25, and that will fuck us up for years to come even after the recession, mark my words m8

Today, France decided to betray itself.

>>74548694
Look at the way Indonesia has been going.
Not saying it will definitely happen but you see it often, a big muslim population leads to many issues.

>>74548641
What was your point meant to be?

>>74548398
> Asked a Russian guy
I didn't expect something else
Still I'm sorry for ruining their desires

>>74548271
Lel they want the left to win. The muslims know that they are political prostitutes and all they have to do is play the waiting game

>>74548985
http://vocaroo.com/i/s09gA8EkMQUC

>>74548985
Your flag seems to be the wrong colors anon.

>>74545071
Revive it by letting Muslims takeover?

>>74547075
>"Nah, fuck you, this ends here, we want a strong and relevant Europe"
By voting for the guy fine with open borders and the idea of French culture being nonexistent?

It's so fucking sickening watching leftwingers try to act like their geopolitical positions represent strength to the point they post cringe inducing shit like this.

>>74549084
>questioning authority
Kek edgefag, just do as you're told.

>>74549127
>fine with the idea of French culture being nonexistent?

Uh-huh.

>>74549127
He's not left wing, he's a liberal. Mélenchon was left wing.

>>74544994
Dear diary,
Today France was a real cool guy :^)

>>74549216
No it's left wing. You guys just have a very skewed views on this.

>>74548746
wtf I always associated Texas with cowboys

>>74549301
>You guys just have a very skewed views on this
He's pro-business, privatisation, etc. He's not left wing.

>>74549305
He's a moron. Don't bother responding to him

>>74548170
They don't need to be terrorists to destroy your culture or country. They just need to be the largest demographic of a shop that stops serving women. They just need to form enough of a voting bloc to push blasphemy laws. They just need enough people to see them as victims and censor themselves and others with moralistic pretenses. Terrorism is just the most obvious result that everyone can see, but it's not the foundation and it's not what's going to kill your country.

>>74549359
Keep repeating that if you want but his social policies remain the same

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>>74549425
Yes he's a liberal you moron. Socially progressive and economically liberal.

>>74548170
Filthy Arabposter detected

>>74549397
I think I'm just gonna start filtering european flags. It's too saddening to see them like this

>>74548694
>tiny Muslim population causing so much fuss
>"Don't worry guys, this won't get worse if that demographic gets bigger."

It's funny how much you people just deny reality at this point.

>>74549465
So you you agree he's leftist

>>74548773
Russians have the right idea and know what's up when it comes to demographic changes

>>74549566
No. Mélenchon was leftist. Macron isn’t going to sing the Internationale and nationalise the economy. Are you trolling or just stupid?

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Thank fucking God we elected Trump. Europeans deserve their slow and painful death into Islam. I hope your daughters enjoy their hijabs you fucking retards.

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>>74545071
Based as fuck.

>>74545071
Viva la France!

>>74549624
He's American.

Liberal is synonymous with leftist there.

>>74549624
He's American

>>74549624
Give me an honest answer. Where would Bernie fall in the political spectrum in Europe

>>74549359
>Believing economics represents everything
And that's why you're ignoring people deconstructing your culture to nothingness to facilitate hordes of foreign cheap labor. Myopic devotion to the almighty dollar over your own society.

A country can come back from an economic slump. It can't come back from being erased.

>>74549456
:^)

>>74549734
Progressive

>>74549734
left/ centre-left

Our functioning healthcare systems would probably be considered straight up communist in America.

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>>74549697
rasheed

>>74545071
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo_-KoBiBG0

based frogs

now just stop the refugees and put europe before the rest of the world

>>74548845
>>74548972
>>74549554
1. There are 5-7% of French population that come from countries where Islam is the dominant religion,

2. Of those, 10% declare they are religious;
The fertility rate of immigrants is comparable if not equal to aboriginal populations in one generation: arriving generation have 5-6 children, next generation have 2.

3. Of those educated in Islam you have a) classic Muslims, b) not-so-classic Muslims who drink wine and eat pork (yes), c) a very small minority of strictly-purist zealots and d) a significant amount of atheists who left their country because of danger...

I mean, I don't even like Islam myself, but come the fuck on.


>>74549031
This is factually wrong. Several ISIS foreign fighters said having FN in power was part of the plan.

What has Macron said about taking in more people from Muslim countries and North African immigration?

>>74548773
Because they're against the establishment
Far-left parties are pro-russian too but nobody mentions them

>>74549833
>Rasheed
>In Lithuania

Sure thing, Pajeet.

>>74545482
muh altright, muh russian hackers, putin will never get inside my brain

>>74549833
You're just pissed because now Brexit involves more risks since you can't take France with you.

>>74549931
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Lithuania
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAA

>>74548773
the far left parties here are also pro russia

>>74549754
>>Believing economics represents everything
He's economically liberal and socially liberal. He's the whole package. He's not leftist. Left does *NOT* mean liberal ideology. Hate libs all you want but don't call them lefties.

>>74549698
I honestly never really hear anyone use the term "left" to describe anything related to American politics, and rightfully so since it hasn't really existed in over 40 years. At best you'll get someone described as Progressive like Bernie or Elizabeth Warren.
Really I only see the term come up so often among the nu/pol/ crowd that became politically aware with Gamergate.

>>74548928
If I were a young Spaniard, I'd learn computer programming. I know this is kind of a meme at this point but not only is the job in demand worldwide, but it's the kind of thing you can do from another country in some cases. Like if there's no work in Spain but you're not ready to leave Spain, you can still write code on a contract basis for a company elsewhere in Europe, or America.

I'm really not very imaginative so if that idea occurs to me, I'm sure it has also occurred to plenty of Spanish people.

>>74549990
Those are Lithuanian Tatars, though who never caused any trouble.

Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Latvia

>>74549874
That's fine and dandy for isis but most Muslims don't want to be part of a failing caliph that can't protect cities 30 miles from their capital from kurds

>>74549874
it's anywhere between 5-10% since france apparently doesn't keep proper records. but yes, keep letting them in and see what happens.

Marcon on immigration:
In stark contrast to his opponent, Mr Macron does not see France shut off from immigration in the future.

Mr Macron would rather implement integration programmes that would teach foreigners about the French language and culture.

His manifesto also outlines a six-month long processing time for asylum seekers looking for refuge in France.

The former Finance Minster also plans to reduce the time required to obtain a “talent visa” – a visa that allows skilled workers to wok in France based on their profession.

But despite this, Mr Macron has addressed plans to strengthen the borders with an additional 5,000 guards and people denied entry would not be allowed to linger within the borders any more.

>>74549798
The fact that he could be considered center left is enough for anyone to say that the politics in Europe are heavily skewed to the left

>>74550086
I guess Americans have a different definition of "leftist" than Europeans (and basically the rest of the world). In Germany Macron would be considered a centrist

>>74550266
Or that the politics in America are heavily skewed to the right.

Macron on European union:
“We are in the world; France is not a closed country,” Mr Macron said in a counter-argument during the heated debate.

The centrist politician is a well known supporter of the European bloc and has expressed his plans to create a European Security Council of military leaders.

In his manifesto he has described the EU as the best “guarantee of peace” and wants to bolster the EU’s defence measures together with NATO.

>>74549851
Your last line was a major part of this election and the reason everyone knee-jerked hard against Le Pen. Macron isn't going to do anything to stop refugees or migrants. If anything he's going to make it worse.

>>74549874
You said it yourself, the first generation has much more children than the natives who aren't having many at all. That's a demographic change whether you like to admit it or not. Moderate Muslims believe things that would be absolutely antithetical to the foundation of any liberal western democracy should they become a large voting bloc. You're also ignoring how easy it is for those so-called "integrated," second and third generations to radicalize or form their own ethnic enclaves.

Furthermore, you only need 10-15% of any given population with enough motivation in one ideal to sway the rest of a complacent society. Loud minorities get shit done. Silent majorities are just that. Silent.

ISIS wants a fight. Letting someone poison you slowly because his partner wants you to hit him is fucking retarded and you know this.

>>74550171
Its illegal to. Its also to assimilate people into french culture over there. Any demographic data comes from medical inquiries into genetic defects like sickle cell and tay sachs

>>74549874
7% of the French population in Muslim, but check out the demographics
http://www.ifop.com/media/poll/1479-1-study_file.pdf
Muslims make up to 15-17% among the younger generations

>>74550266
He would not be center left, a 90% tax rate would never fly.

>>74550339
Nah we are in the middle.

>>74550443
*of

>>74548187
yeah but he is supported and helped exclusively by old people

even his fucking wife is old, his apparent youth is an illusion

>>74550240
That is better than I expected, but still not good enough.
I wonder about the age demographics of the voters.
If people were able to see France in the 80's and compare it to what it looks like now, I don't see how they could not have voted for LePen.

>>74550472
Yeah only 60% like in Sweden would

>>74550086
>>74550296
Maybe that's your problem in Europe. You've shifted the overton window to the point people who hold anti-western stances and deny it has a culture beyond slavish devotion to shallow multiculturalism represent the center.

>>74550552
IT
IS
NOT
ABOUT
THAT
YOU ABSOLUTE THICK SHIT
Jesus I'm getting mad. I am not even endorsing the liberal ideology which encourages open borders, why can you not fucking read?

>>74550117
Yeah, all those communists in academia are totally just figments to everyone's imaginations. The left doesn't stop existing just because you don't put commie scumfuck on your apparel anymore. But please, tell me more how mayors can be members of Antifa with a "nonexistent" left.

>>74550489
Well from your perspective. You live here. It's all relative, anon.

>>74550518
Indeed, if Macron wants to be a good president he needs to do more alot more than that but its a good start. Listening to his opponents concerns is important. Thank god he is not a leftist retard.

>>74550518
It's funny because people who were alive in the 80s are the bracket where el penne is the least popular

How the fuck does France vote for the candidate that wants MORE immigration?

>>74550642
Maybe you should learn yourself given I was using a general you in reference to Europe, not you personally.

Le Pen's proposals were too extreme. She makes Trump sound moderate.

The US is more conservative than most of Europe as a whole though. Probably not a fair comparison.

>>74550747
These people in their 40's must have been able to see a big change in their country in these last years.
Why?
I was there in the 80's and the last time was 2001, I saw great change between those years that were not for the positive.

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>>74550804
>given I was using a general you in reference to Europe
No shit of course I got that. All I am trying to get you to understand is that you don't seem to know what words mean.

>>74550374
>You're also ignoring how easy it is for those so-called "integrated," second and third generations to radicalize or form their own ethnic enclaves.
Yeah well it only takes one Imam scumbag who gets money from ISIS to tell the kids that ''french people don't like you, they hate you and this is why you should go wage jihad in the barren desert wasteland that is Syria in exchange of a few dollars and eternal peace when you achieve martyrdom''. There is a root to radicalization, and it comes directly from the muslim scholars in Mosques. I entirely agree on that.

Most of muslims in France are actual fake muslims who drive old BMWs, sell cigarettes on the street and smoke weed all day and only claim to muslim once a year and that's during Ramadan.

t. have french relatives

>ISIS wants a fight. Letting someone poison you slowly because his partner wants you to hit him is fucking retarded and you know this.
Oh, don't get me wrong, ISIS would have had its fair share of fight if the FN was in power. All the attacks in Belgium and in France were likely all part of the plan.

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>>74546870

10c has been deposited into your shareblue account

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>>74550935
>mfw I was two of those
Do I get 20c then?

>>74550872
They are kids of the hippie generation. You know the people that voted to end France's colonial empire. The People that willingly believe literal communist propaganda about the US

meh, it's not like le Pen is far-right or something,
what's today far right was far left maybe 50 years ago

EU and political correctness castrated political scene, if you don't fill expected places you don't even get a chance. le Pen is enough on the right spectre to be deemed far right by today's standards, but if she was righter than that she would be even unable to compete, she would be either banned, ridiculed or ignored

>>74549601
Look up the ethnic and religious demographics of Russia fatty.

>>74551006
Some of her economic policy is pretty far to the left tbqh.

>>74551110
And they recognize it's a problem

Russia is actively trying to raise Russian birthrates, Are any other Europeans trying to do the same?

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>>74551177
no because of "muh women can do whatever they want"
>mfw

>>74551177
Russia has a giant Muslim population and constantly allows immigration from ex-USSR central Asian countries you dumb memeing fuck.

>>74551177
>Russia is actively trying to raise Russian birthrates
They suck at it then. European Russians still do have terrible fertility.

ahahahahahahahhahahaha

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/69s53b/libert%C3%A9_equalit%C3%A9_fraternit%C3%A9_le_pen/

>that speech
Crying desu

>>74551177
Russia has 19% of muslims where as france has about 10%

>>74551322
They are kinda trying at least. I mean when putin dies the Muslims are still going to take over russia as russians are huge pussies but it's still better than France with it's abortion quotas

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>>74544994
Is anyone really surprised that a race of degenerate cowards went with the obvious choice for their people?

>>74549601
This

>>74551294
Immigration to Russia is going down thanks to Putin's policies

>>74551322
And I said they were working on it

>>74551469
Russia conquered Muslim places, France lets in Muslims

>>74551577
Hint: European Russians

>>74551528
>They are kinda trying at least.
Pretty much everyone in Europe is trying, but you won't know about it, or did you studied European welfare systems?

>>74551177

I'd say that main problem for Europe with Muslims is uncertainty how much will they assimilate? Assimilation mostly means will they drop their birthrates and become secularized Muslims (Muslims on a paper, like with Christians)?

Answer is that most of them will. But minority surely won't. Since people easily get radicalized, especially if you're second or third rate citizen as Muslims are in the West, that will cause at least tensions with anyone who identifies as Muslim.

Now, if you combine it with unrest in Middle East, EU economy mostly being stagnant, dropping birth rates, Russia and so on... you might get Yugoslavia situation.

Yugoslavia was stable as long as economy was stable, once that dissappeared Yugo went away. Today most of people from that time say they didn't expect war would be so long and brutal, most of them didn't even think there would be war.

I'm skeptical about Muslim immigration, since how can I know they won't cause problems? I mean, most of reason for their immigration is based on presumption they will drop their customs and culture and integrate easily into society. I don't think so, mostly because they're destined to integrate into lower classes, and even that is hard since lower classes are more prejudical. And who wants to be the poorest guy around?

So I expect that any Muslim immigrant who fails to achieve his life goals in Europe is potential threat. EU can't even secure jobs for young Europeans, who are educated and speak the language, how would EU integrate mostly uneducated and people who don't speak the language?

Stop voting for fake nationalists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x4QfXf1yl4

>>74550880
The European left loves to hate itself. It's all for open borders and never fails to take any opportunity to shit all over the continent's history or culture. Macron is no different. Describing his social policies as leftwing is not whatever defining transgression you seem to think it is.

>>74551776
>And I said they were working on it

How?

>>74551853
Why is he always inside the car?

>>74551862
The European left is liberalised and a lot like Dems, you are a fucking moron.

>>74551776
Not all Russian Muslims are natives, there are also millions of Central Asian immigrants

>>74545482
this family

>>74551960
And also immigrants from Azerbaijan

>>74551947
Don't waste your time, Americans can't grasp that there is a difference between liberalism and socialism in the first place. For them, the two words mean exactly the same thing.

>>74551849
Don't know how your parents didn't see serbia gearing up to create greater Serbia.

>>74552064
Milošević was elected ca. 1986.
I also read army prepared coup against him but failed. He purged army from the unloyal people, but even that didn't prevent it from mostly crumbling away, losing moral. that being main reason they failed to successfully siege Vukovar, entrance point to Croatia. Army envisioned subduing Zagreb in few weeks, but Milošević didn't want that since it would mean restoration of Yugoslavia. He deliberately wanted bloodier war, to mobilize population and gear it to greater Serbia

It's not like Milošević said 'today yugo, tommorrow serbia'. there were hints for that, but no one knew that there would be war in few years.
It's easy to analyze things latter on, when you can see patterns that make sense.

>>74545482
ummm wasn't it the failure of your intelligence and security agencies to protect your elections from russian hackers? that was what your news was saying...

>>74550896
Don't care honestly. Muslims are muslims and until they loudly become apostates I'll look at these so called assimilated muslims the same way I look at all the violent asshats who were just like them six months or so before going nuts.

Even if they are moderate, what exactly is the point to facilitating such a massive exchange of humanity when it brings such pitfalls with it? The most secular, modern, liberal minded Muslim doesn't bring anything to a neighborhood a native couldn't without any of the potential Islamic bullshit.

ISIS wants two things. To fight. To win. With the Right they get the former, with the Left they get the latter. Leftwingers with this delusional idea they can roll over for any and all supposedly "moderate," Muslims to keep them from joining genocidal asshats and count that a win is fucking hilarious.

>>74551469
Russia also asserts itself, protects its culture, is regionally dominant, and doesn't believe in post-modern claptrap that undermines its society down to a nub till people question the most fundamental ideas of human biology. It's not prostrating itself to help foreigners like France is.

19% of a country that has shown what it will do to combat Islamism is a lot more impotent in that context than a 10% controlling the narrative and forcing others to bend to its will.

>>74550518
>>74550872
quite the contrary, old people support macron

>>74552258
More like you guys thought he was just going to beat up on Muslims and leave you guys out of his plans

>>74552364
Putin pays off Muslims so they don't attack. The best looking parts of russia outside of moscow are gronzy and kazan

>>74552424
?

nope, his goal was to unify serbs in one state, he massacred Muslims since they lived in pockets of his future state.
his goal wasn't to exterminate Muslims, otherwise he would start with Muslims in Serbia

>>74551947
That only reinforces my point. The Dems are no different.

>>74552055
You'd have a point if I said anything about socialism. You people don't seem to understand social policies matter and someone's stance on them is as much a factor into their classifications as their stance on economics. Macron lines up with the left on social policies, so it's not wrong to describe his social policies as leftwing.

>>74544994
a majority of french betrayed France today, civil war is comming

>>74545071
putain de traitre

>>74551902
Increasing their birthrate

http://russia-insider.com/en/russia-demographics-are-now-reasonably-healthy-birth-rate-highest-europe/ri2354

>>74551960
Yes but immigration to Russia is decreasing

>>74552568
But his hatred was geared towards Albanians and bosnaks

>>74552390
T H I S.

The stupid old people in France think that they should "let the yougsters do their thing"
And this is also the general way to think in business here (which is very wrong because senior workers are very important)

this is France

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You disappointed them france

>>74552872
he used hatred to achieve political goals
political goal was to gather all serbs in one state, without too many of minorities

>>74553189
Which would require killing Albanians and bosnaks

>>74552364
>Leftwingers with this delusional idea they can roll over for any and all supposedly "moderate," Muslims to keep them from joining genocidal asshats and count that a win is fucking hilarious.

Not demonizing someone is not "rolling over". And obviously if someone feels like they are hated, they are more likely to radicalize.

>>74553616
Bullshit. A man in Denmark being tried for blasphemy for the first time in decades because he toasted a quran is rolling over. Accepting the fact Muslim run cafes in Paris can throw women out is rolling over. Canada's PM coozying up to shitheads who want to make Islamophobia something the government targets without defining it is rolling over. The organizers of the Women's March being sharia slags is rolling over. The fact there are enough Turks in the Netherlands to win Islamists political enfranchisement is rolling over. The fact the vice-chair of the DNC is a Muslim faggot who orchestrated the #JusticeForJamar riots in Minnesota is rolling over.

The Western left is rolling over for Islam and telling itself its the enlightened and moralistic answer because its full of hubris and arrogance and assumes its way of doing things is so inherently superior that anything diverging is simply broken or stupid.

>>74551862
>Let me tell you about your country, which I have never visited and do not understand.

>>74554034
Literally everything you just said is fake or hilariously over exaggerated. You are fighting windmills friend.

>>74554034
Blah blah exaggerated breitbart, daily mail, etc. right wing clickbait headlines.

>>74554034
for the first time since 1971... it also led to backlash among the general population and several political parties trying to abolish the law

>>74554096
Doesn't stop people like you from doing the same does it? The European left is full of self-loathing.

>>74554358
>>74554406
>Danish man charged with blasphemy
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/23/europe/denmark-quran-blasphemy-trnd/index.html

Look at that, totally a Breitbart link.

>Muslim run cafes in Paris throwing women out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tSYGfEg1IY

>Canada's PM coozying up to Islamist shitheads to combat Islamophobia
See M103.

>Women's March organizers being sharia slags
See Linda Sarsour.

>Turkish Islamists winning political seats in Netherlands
See Denk. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denk_%28political_party%29

>Vice-chair of the DNC being a Muslim faggot who helped start BLM riots in Minnesota
See Keith Ellison's stint in the DFL party and his role in popularizing a hashtag for the piece of shit Jamar Clark killed trying to attack paramedics. He's a progressive darling now and a firm indicator of where the DNC is going.

Again, the Western left is nothing but apologism, excuses, fetishization, and weakness when it comes to Islam.

>>74554944
The communists pointed called them political prostitutes and said that they were only good for destroying nations. Afterwards they'd be lined up against a wall and shot. The Muslims know this as well

>>74547155
but they arent, literally everything your party has said about russia being involved has all turned out to be a lie.

>>74554944
>Doing the same thing

I have done nothing of the sort, but I guess basic reading comprehension is simply beyond the average graduate of the American education system.

>>74547762
(you)

>>74555551
The funny thing is, you just did exactly what you meant to deny you did in the first place. Talking about other people's countries despite never having visited it happens all over the internet. Bitching about it here is petty and childish.

>>74554358
>>74554406
>>74554944
>"It's all fake!"
>Shown otherwise
>No response

Figures.

>>74550266
That depends, eastern europe has right wing in such levels that dont even exist in USA

>>74550117
Then you don't live in MO, here it's common to hear people call dems leftists and GOP constitutionalists (assuming they're not career politicians)

>>74557414
Dems are leftists. The people running the party have histories being unironic Maoists. The identity politics and struggle session approach to institutional reform suggests it's not just a history at this point.

>>74555551
>I have done nothing of the sort

>Someone mentions all the shit happening in the Western defense of Islam
>NUH UH YOU'RE JUST MAKING SHIT UP!

You did EXACTLY that you fucking idiot. You, without knowing how shit is happening in Europe or Canada, decided to say that shit that is happening in Europe or Canada isn't happening because you, someone not from fucking Europe or Canada didn't hear about it. You don't understand Europe or Canada, you've never been to Europe or Canada, but by golly God, you're the authority on the subject.

>>74557505
>Dems are leftists.
Top fucking kek
They are centrists at best

>>74557802
Maybe on economics. On social policies they regularly court people who push Marxist nonsense in academia. Seriously, the vice-chair of the DNC is a Maoist. Just because these people don't call themselves communists doesn't mean they aren't.

Welcome to the club of rustling /pol/s jimmies, France.

WHITES AND FASCISTS BTFO!

>>74554944
Listen are violent Muslims REALLY that bad? I mean Christian terrorists have committed more mass rape and murder than any other religion in history. Especially when white european people were involved.

>>74557905
Actual communist here. I wish this were all true, but it isn't.

>>74557938
Very satisfied to have done my part of accelerating the Decline of the West

Contrarianism is a cancer, metacontrarianism is the answer

>>74558139
kek

>>74557802
Even if most leftists are central in nature, they give actual communist fedoras a platform to start their campaign of fuckall.

>>74558139
Who cares, we'll all be dead soon anyway once Yellowstone erupts and the human race becomes extinct.

>>74544994
yeah but luckily 65% percent of it didn't so it ended up ok.

>>74546991
underrated comment.

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>>74558139
At the very end of Western civilization. When cities fall, statues get destroyed and people enslaved.

The right wing man will say,'' At least I was right, the leftists would destroy us all.''

Then the left wing man would say ''At least I wasn't racist and was politically correct''

>>74558196
>implying the jewish rats wouldn't survive

anonymous please

>>74557802
And to add to that, look at the state of these people who advocate for open market solutions. They're corporatists and the private entities they all work to ingratiate all form the same political groupthink in the same small circles with government contracts and connections. That's not a free market and the people who support that are anything but confident in the workings of capitalism.

Take the tech industry as an example. Twitter, Facebook, Wikipedia, Yahoo, Google/Youtube, Pornhub, Reddit, etc are all HQ'd in a tiny stretch of the Bay, all staffed with the same people who regularly rub elbows and share the same opinions, all kept in place with tax and labor incentives provided by the local government. That's not capitalism, that's top-down corporatism and it's not a mistake they all side with one political party.

>>74558048
It is. You just don't like that those assholes are doing it for their own gain and greed and using your principles to facilitate their own interpretive view of those principles.

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Fuck France

I will now return to hating anything French

>>74558250
that's the main problem with the human race.

We don't even have the same """"""""""objective"""""""""" views.

What is "objective" is in reality subjective to many

>>74558260
> An American who knows what liberalism and leftism actually mean

what the fukk

>>74558170
Everything is basically in a holding pattern until someone seriously tries to introduce universal basic income

>>74548661
>cowboys
AKA white bois playing dress-up, and pretending to be vaqueros.

FREEDOM FRIES

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>>74558322

>>74558344
Wait no I'm drunk and misread you're an idiot too

Hope the complete collapse comes soon so we may build something new out of the ashes.

>>74558040
Islam is a political religion. You won't find Christians killing people on the same scale or in such a widespread way. You won't find moderate Christians doing the same things Muslims are right now in secular western democracies.

Secondly, because something is European does not mean it's Christian and atrocities committed by the former don't become the latter. Islam uses its belief to push itself. European governments haven't used Christianity to that extent in a very long time.

Lastly, if your defense of Islam rests solely on you being able to play this pathetic game of whataboutist deflection, you're showing you have no fucking argument against the point established. You abandon ground to try and change the subject because you know you're wrong.

>>74558379
That 56% has a working sense of self-preservation though, unlike France.

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>>74557905
American education folks

>>74558398
>Islam is a political religion
I D E O L O G Y
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>>74558492
I really want to kill every /pol/ack who brought these fucking redditors.

>>74558367
>bootyknackered mestizo detected
I bet you think all the cattle drove themselves.

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>>74558544
Prepare for even more, my dude.
This was on TV todag apparently.

All this thread did is remind me that Amerisharts don't understand what liberal means
I mean, why the fuck do you think the libertarians are named how they are

>>74548332
we're poor, they won't stay

>>74558544
These redditors aren't really here. They just watched the dumb memes spewed by /pol/tards who spammed twitter with it.

4chan still has a really low population compared to reddit or twatter or tumblr.

There would be have to be an act of god for /pol/ it's self to convert that many people.

It's like the summerfag theory all over again

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>>74558641
>The anonymous hacker known as 4chan

>>74558746
>The notorious anonymous hacker that goes by the name of /b/

>>74558492
Nothing but passive-aggressive nonsense and blatant ignorance of the point. Social policies matter. You communist faggots being able to obfuscate your intentions behind "but it's totally liberalism!" and staring down economics as if they're the sole defining characteristic of a politician's stance or a political ideology's label is done for.

>>74558652
You guys don't seem to understand the Democratic party isn't exactly liberal anymore.

>>74558641
aaaaaaaaAaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAA

>>74558826
I understand that full well though, if I ever move to your country I'll probably vote libertarian and be happy my vote never matters

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>>74544994
No surprise here,french always given up the should change there flag to white.

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>>74560176

>>74560260
Jesus Italy is worse than Belgium

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>>74560260
I rather lose to a true strong french,then soft handed french of 2017. I love how french get attack in your own national day with truck also in your election still voted for macron. Hahah

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>>74549601
>>74549601
>Russians have the right idea and know what's up when it comes to demographic changes

LOL

Are you retarded?

Is that why Putin supports nationalist groups in other countries but bans(and jails harshly) those in his own country?

>>74560374
Oh come on who could have guessed the germans would bring paratroopers to take your forts. I mean men jumping out of airplanes? This is not a thing normal people do.

>>74558826
What do you think Communism is? It's not whenever the government does anything. Try going a day without banging your cousin and read a book sometime, Cleetus. Because if you think the party that nominates Hillary Clinton is communist, you need to do some critical thinking.

>>74550650
>t. never went to college
If you went to a good school you shouldn't even see 1 communist professor. My only humanities professor (US history) was a rabid lolbertarian, and my school was top 40 (top 10 for comp sci)

>mfw /pol/ cites 1 insane person from some no-name school as an example of LIEberal brainwashing
They're probably the same percentage of the general population (re: jack shit)

>>74554358
It's real, I've read about some of these stories on Breitbart

>>74549359
Free market capitalism was historically a left-wing position, particularly in France.

>>74560703
Maybe you should read all the replies to the post you're jerking off before you blow your load there champ.

>>74557505
No such thing as a "Maoist".

>>74558700
>tumblr
I assume their userbase is tiny. I've never even seen anything other than really specific types of porn on tumblr.

If tumblr has anything other than galleries of BBW tits or extreme closeups of Asian girl buttholes I feel like I would have....tumbled across it by now.

>>74560539
That's not the point. The point was acting like social policies don't matter by deflecting to economic ones when those same economic proclivities hardly represent what you say they do is fucking silly. Acting like every tech firm run from one metro by the same people with the same politics due to the local governments actions somehow represents the principles of a free market is silly.

>>74560606
It's not hard to find crazy leftwing professors and you acting like they're unicorns is hilarious.

>>74560743
Mao existed. Followers of Mao existed. Acolytes of Mao's politics still exist. Maoists exist. Go gaslight somewhere else you communist faggot.

>>74560396
You guys let terrorists kidnap and kill your prime minister in the 70s

>>74560900
>gaslight
Any more terms you learned at community college that you'd like to use?

>>74561193
Any more arguments you'd like to ignore because you have no way to refute them?

Well, Macron's win is going to leave France overrun by Muslims that have no intention of ever integrating into European culture (See: The rest of Europe) or it won't. It'll be interesting though, I give you lot that much.

>>74561193
>>74560900
Maoist exist but not in the numbers he imagines or with the influence he suspects. They're his boogeyman, reminds me of the guy in War of the Worlds who completely lost his shit in the basement and was talking about digging tunnels to wait out the aliens and attack them when they least expect it.

It's what happens when you're paranoid, enraged, and powerless.

>>74561331
The vice-chair of the DNC was a literal Maoist. This isn't a conspiracy or rantings and ravings. Dude was a literal self-avowed Maoist. It's hilarious how many pinko sympathizers on this board try to act like their poisonous ideology totally doesn't exist despite powerful people having described themselves as such.

>>74561398
>vice-chair of the DNC
>powerful

Truly a next level omnilord. At least you can see the truth anon.

>>74545482
I hope so too, but neither side will let go of identity politics.

>>74561529
Yeah and I expected that. You can always tell when you're winning an argument with a leftwing faggot because this kind of apologism and "so what?" nonsense starts spilling out. Move the goalposts and obfuscate a bit more.

>>74561572
Learn some tact, there's a lot of people who wholeheartedly agree with you but can't stand to be around you because you sound like a bitter drunken autist.

>>74561680
I'm sorry if my tact starts to evaporate when I'm dealing with faggots who legitimately think there's no such thing as Maoism or think the prevalence of such people within one political party's leadership means nothing.

>>74561714
I would like to learn more about the maoist inside the DRC; can you provide some links regarding this information.

Le Pen fanboi btfo