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what if this was your wedding

>>74514035
let them fuck my wife

babestation

>>74513959
>>74513990
Do you believe in God and the Bible or is more of a community type thing? Honest question.

Every time I burp I think of rick and morty now

>>74514035
I actually had a nigger walk onto a private party once and he ended up being thrown out on his fucking arse because he couldn't understand us as we told him to fuck off. Hate non-whites.

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>I will never marry
>I will die alone

>>74514035
This is fake though, the text messages aren't what actually happened

thing can only get better

if you don't believe in god
you are saying that you don't believe in any gods
which includes the god of Islam: alah

>>74514035
I'd smoke a blunt with them beforehand

I love those smaller youtube/twitch channels where they interact quite a bit with all of the fans at a good level and they do regular content outputs
very nice

>>74514056
Yes I would say I'm a devout Christian

>>74514035
Batter every one of these amoeba

>>74514051
very odd that your gyms use kg when everyone talks in terms of lbs/st there. the longer you lift the more familiar you'll become with the weight. I know the conversion is just x2.2 so I don't have much trouble understanding kg

>>74514061
>>I will never marry
good feel
>>I will die alone
bad feel

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>I'd smoke a blunt with them beforehand

pretty sure most people just pretend to be christian on here because le 4chan contrarian

>>74514056
Started going completely on a whim. Distinctly remember feeling the community spirit stuff during the first mass but I felt the light of God the moment I left the church. Impossible to describe frankly. Like trying to describe love.

Can any of you pitiful fucking pathetic plankton recommend me a good documentary on conflict in the Middle East?

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>I'd smoke a blunt with them beforehand

>>74514023
do people live in the central regions of Australia? I thought it was uninhabitable desu.

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Hmmmm yes, the fabled 400 pound hacker strikes again, nothing to see here, braise mother russia

>>74514097
desu i think of bodyweight in kg now. I still have an idea what someone means if they refer to their weight in lbs and st though

>>74514123
which conflict?

>>74514123
Kingdom of Heaven

terrorist acts and atrocities committed in the name of god: countless

terrorist acts and atrocities committed in the name of atheism: zero

>>74514118
Are you taking the piss

>>74514143
Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, anything

NO Palestine or Israel

where's assange?
did he get doopin mental or did the Cia get him?

>>74514140
why should i give a shit either way, macron is a worm and i dont really care who's leaking his shit

did a GINORMOUS poo and can hear my flatmates moving about, bet they've gone to the toilet by now and smelt it haha

>>74514140
who cares, macron is going to win anyway

>>74514151
*tips fedora*

Lol christcucks !

why would anyone be religos!

>>74514165
>no Israel/Palestine
why not lad? it's the most interesting one haha

Hi lads :3

>>74514140
literal fake news

it could have been leaked and then some russian speaker went through it and made some spelling corrects

>>74514186
masha'allah my muwahhid brother !

bet the religious spastics in this thread are all from northern ireland

>>74514151
Are you baiting or just edgy and 14 years old

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>be me last summer
>standing around looking like a twat
>girl i had only met a few times before patted the seat next to her and says "come sit next to me [anon]"
>actually say out loud "alri lemme just squeeze in next to [femanon]. it's a dream come true haha"
>don't say another fucking word for the 30 minute car ride back to town

that was 8 months ago and i still think about it daily.

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what did she mean by this, the gf that is

>>74514207
I'm from NI and I'm Muslim

*invades and conquers France*

LMAO why are the French so cowardly CuCKS

WHY DIDN'T THOSE PUSSIES SUPPORT US WHEN WE OVERTREW HUSSEINFUCKING ARABS

>>74514186
if you check apostate muslim youtube channels all the sheeds there claim that they're actually christians trying to make muslims into atheists

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>literal fake news
>it could have been leaked and then some russian speaker went through it and made some spelling corrects

If everyone followed the ten commandments the world would be an infinitely better place

>>74514216
good lad

>>74514063
then what's the real story?

the russian federation? not a fan

>>74514162
Not in the slightest. I get that a lot as a devout 22 year old Catholic though. Remember having a cute girl who also goes to mass every week (because her mum makes her go) ask me with genuine interest what it is about mass that I actually like. Sat for a good 3 minutes trying to think of my answer and then when I finally answered her, she smiled and said "That's weirdly nice, especially from you" and now she voluntarily goes to mass. Weird thing is, I think she's the one who put the notion of popping into a mass into my head to begin with.

likes: clinton, rick and morty, atheism
dislikes: religion, trump,

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>>74514140
>notepad ++
>app.xml
it would have been so easy to add those in. that screenshot proves nothing

>russophobia should be your primary political motivation
>you should support a literal ex banker warmonger who's a big fan of merkel because russia doesn't like him
ah yes, neoliberalism

>>74514222
Can't wait for you cucks to be fuckin-

wait... that's just a fantasy...you should still fuck outta here

>>74514186
I could see myself doing it agnostically because I miss the community feeling of church. But you'd have to be delusional to think the Bible is God's word and should be taken literally.

Love the Russian Federation, simple as

>>74514222
accidentally miscegenated
happens to the best of us

>>74514239
The 7 Noahide Laws are all that is necessary.

>>74514097
Yeah you'll normally have 20kg plates that are 1lb lighter than the 45lb plates yanks uses, weird

>>74514123
>pitiful fucking pathetic plankton
I don't like your tone.

>>74514207
At least one of us is (me)

>>74514239
this desu
the world went downhill when people started engraving images of christ and doing exercise on sunday

oim oirish

>>74514210
neither

i just enjoy BTFOing religifags and hopefully educating some people along the way

>>74514273
Snortled and wanglechuffed at this scrabbelbopper of a post

>>74514260
yes but what does the russian translate to?
im not in the cia so i havent the slytest

>>74514186
You atheists are focusing your attention on the wrong religion.

>>74514287
you can't follow the ten commandments and actually worship jesus, that breaks commandments 1 & 2.

>>74514303
Don't worry lad I was 14 once too
you'll grow out of it eventually

>>74514303
hi

>>74514328
>yank doesn't understand the Holy Trinity
Here we go again. Someone grab us a shamrock.

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>>74514222
she accidently got willy instead of fanny

>>74514023
WTF a country that big should be illegal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYDfwUJzYQg

REAL YANK POWER HOURS

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Russians are panicking. First Trump turned out to have been playing 4D chess with them all along and fucked them in Syria, now Le Pen is getting beat so hard they're having to release fake news about Macron that reveals their meddling and ends up helping him.

COULD NOT FABRICATE

>>74514332
thanks father, i love god now
terrorist apologist

A potentially good thread, ruined yet again by Brits and Yanks.

>>74514345
christians don't understand it either
It's literally incomprehensible and meaningless

might do a quick howl at christcucks' expense

>>74514350
Agree whole heartedly

why do dumb people think that corbyn not being willing to press the big red button will lead to us getting nuked?

>>74514358
Went to their show once, pretty nice

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>>74514347
nice one

christianity is getting absolutely destroyed itt holy shit

>>74514347
if my detection skills are right, that's cassidy klein at the back

do people here actually have lives that revolve around religion, whether they're athiests or not? don't give a single think about it at all because I'm not insecure

What are some of your favourite classic /brit/ arguments of times gone by?

Mine:

>Don't eat oven pizza because it has fake cheese
>Does a margarita pizza need to have basil
>At the end of the day should pint pulling ability affect effect your chances of being prime minister?
>Which is the second city. Rorkechester, birmingsheed or radical Edinburgh?
>The lad who had the same argument every single day for around a month about Hitler conquering Danzig

>>74514386
Because that's how MAD works

>>74514404
hey

>>74514138
70% of the population lives on the coastal capital cities

The largest inland city is Canberra with 500K, but then it goes downhill to 120K as the next largest.

Alice Springs is right in the centre and has a pop of 25K

>>74514411
same. I only ever think about religion when someone mentions it on 4chan. couldn't give less of a shit
t. agnostic

>slavs
>saviours of the white race
Ummmmm they're not even white for a start sweaty :) x

>>74514416
>>The lad who had the same argument every single day for around a month about Hitler conquering Danzig

One of the biggest displays of autism I've seen here

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>>74514387
thoughts on uma delicia gimmick? most brazilians actually seem to be enjoying it

>>74514380
>>74514350
I could hide both of your "countries" inside of mine and nobody would ever know

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>>74514416
>oven pizza
as opposed to?

>>74514372
>if I don't understand it then nobody does
What a strange post.

>>74514419
but we're in NATO
and who's to say he wouldn't change his mind?
russians wouldn't take that chance
also economics tie the world together too much
nobody's going to start a nuclear war, it'd be silly

>Yanks on /cum/ say "buds" in place of "lads"

LMAO the fucking state

*gunshot*
*screams*
*explosion*

>t. agnostic

completely missed the point of my post

>>74514416
Yes a margarita needs basil by definition

>>74514467
Home made pizza

>>74514467
steamed

>>74514430
wonder what australia would be like if it had an inland sea
could have enough irrigation to support a population of 100 million i reckon

now that I have everyone arguing about religion I'm going to go do my laundry

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ready to say "fuck reality and shit" and start swallowing some redpills

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>>74514472

>>74514477
dumb christcuck

>>74514408
dani daniels la

>>74514496
c u l8r ;0

>>74514472
it's a canadian thing and very cringey

>>74514419
t. offensive realist

>>74514471
t. liberal/complex interdepence theorist

>>74514457
yea well we both live near the the coast of our cunts the difference being there's a really big hot red bit full of snakes in the middle of yours

>>74514472
We don't say lads in real life unless you're an old person or from the maritimes. Why would /cum/ say lads?

>>74514496
Can you take the garbage out after you've done that

>>74514457
ahh yes a billion square miles of uninhabitable desert shitehole
what a country

>>74514515
ttyl xx

>dumb christcuck

completely missed the point of my post yet again

yanks sure are thick

should really be in bed

>>74514537
did that yesterday

>>74514530
You wouldn't, only when you're over here LARPing as le anglo gentlesir but bud is fucking cringey

>>74514525
Thing is you don't hear "buds" in plural form that often. "Bud" or "buddy" you do.

>>74514416
>What would happen if you got drunk on a plane?
>>74514484
Maybe in Italy you fucking autist
If you order a margarita pizza you won't get any basil

>>74514544
you are the worst aussie posters

rest of them are good

you're atrocious

>>74514553
*tucks you in*

>>74514467
Can't tell if you're memeing, foreign or have autism?

>>74514538
>>74514528
*teleports your country into the giant shit desert part of the country*

>>74514527
>t. liberal/complex interdepence theorist
>theory

umm sweetie xxx

>>74514544
>thick
is this a fat joke? epic dude, not the lowest hanging fruit or anything

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>tfw all my buds itt

>>74514573
Bradleyposter has a sever case of 'tism and Marfan syndrome

Leave him alone

>>74514562
Don't remember this one, what would happen if you got drunk on a plane?

>>74514573
What is oven pizza and how is it different from all other types of pizzas (which are baked in ovens)

chavs only exist because of FAS

ban alcohol/smoking and chavs would disappear within 50 years

scots say pal far far more than mate, but lad is still said sometimes
in london i cant remember ever hearing someone say lad in the 'vocative' way

>>74514562
Even DOMINOS serves it with basil mate

Obviously the british cuisine memes are true, sad!

you know which word should make a comeback

"radical"

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>tfw smoking good buds

>>74514559
So are 9/10 Irish posts

>>74514456
It's gimmick because that shit is from Angola, but thats not a bad meme

>>74514467
deep fried

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>lads

need a blowie in a dark alley by a bloke who's possibly HIV infected

>>74514563
>you are the worst aussie posters

pardon?

>>74514606
Refers to premade pizza you get in supermarkets x

business idea: read the norwegian general and try and make sense of what's being said

gutta....

>>74514612
that's a small pepe

>>74514606
It's shorthand for one you buy at the supermarket and heat up in the oven rather than making one from scratch or ordering a takeaway

Pretty sure you already know this and are just being an autist though

>>74514580
i agree it's a strong idea but it's a theory init
everything in IR is

Would probably throw up if I ate a premade pizza desu

love going down to the sports bar with my buds and watching the game

>>74514607
bit hard to ban drinking when it's so simple to make

>>74514614
Coming from a fucking leaf

Atrocious post BTW

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eeeyrRITE yootoob
*sips tea*

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>>74514637

>>74514607
t. tarquin

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where my buds at??

the irish are actually okay posters. the one who used to get really mad was funny and 3 inch willy is a good gimmick. they don't like yanks though

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>ireland unironically has blasphemy laws

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39830447

>lad

You have to be a fairy pansy faggot to say that unironically

>>74514601
They'd cut you off before that
>>74514609
Dominos don't here, I literally ordered one earlier and there was no basil in sight

really hate russiaboos desu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkiio2xKY-k

interesting video

>>74514670
what a bunch of sheeds

>>74514676
ok bud

>>74514644
Weak stomached pansy, won't survive the winter

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brit more like shit

>>74514606
> (meme arrow) implying people don't use microwaves
> (meme arrow) implying the vegan types don't use some shitty open air flame contraption

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>>74514638
>rather than making one from scratch or ordering a takeaway
How do you think they're cooked lad

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>>74514607
rich people drink far more than poor people

>>74514687
*freezes to death in the 15-degree cold*

have a spot of lesions lads
think i have the hiv herpes gonorhea

The yanks are extra baity tonight and you're all falling for them haha

Anonymous 05/07/17(Sun)02:20:22 No.74514669 ▶
the irish are actually okay posters. the one who used to get really mad was funny and 3 inch willy is a good gimmick. they don't like yanks though>>74514670

FOY

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>>74514676
t. california

cowabunga dude... totally radical... *votes hillary*

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NEED a quebecois porn gf

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>The yanks are extra baity tonight and you're all falling for them haha

Hey BUD!

Wanna catch a cold TALLBOY (500ml of pure American piss) and watch the NFL game where the 'GROIDS ram one another at HIHG VELOCITY?

Let's go for it woooo BUD!! We are gonna get CRUNK and WASTED my BUDS!!1

>>74514693
Did you move here 2 months ago or something? Everybody else knows what it refers to yet for some reason you think you're special

>>74514711
tubular

>>74514724
mammi
suomi
sauna
vittu
viina

>>74514695
yes, they drink wine, they don't smoke

and they don't binge drink during pregnancy

Just discovered I can buy a pound of cannabis from my nearby dispensary for only $1300. The legal market is outpricing the black market finally.

>>74514727
fuck off stop shitting up the thread

>>>/int/cum
>>>/int/eire

out with the buds tonight
gonna wear my best cargo shorts

>>74514736
>they drink wine, they don't smoke
lol sure

>>74514734
burger
fries
deep-fried
butter
motorized card

london is nice in that there are 0 chavs but then you have to deal with the roadmen

>>74514723
Name of the madame

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Just drove on the car road to the product supermarket and bought myself an oven pizza. Once I get back to my human house I'm going to put it in the food oven and cook it.

vittujen
kevat
ja
kyrpien
takatalvi

things sub-human brainlets do:
-watch SPORT
-like GOD
-drink BEER

Rinse and repeat until you've retired/pensioned your family out of a future.

Just watched the new Extra History (yes I know they're cucks whatever fuck you) on the US revolution and... FUCK WHY DID WE MISMANAGE THINGS SO BADLY?!?! Just imagine the greatness Britain could have achieved if we simply reconciled with them.

https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1493740038836.webm

need brazilian gf

>>74514758
t. muhamed abdul abu salami

>>74514762
Kek lmoa normies BTFO XD

>>74514759
cherry potter
>tfw she'll never swear at you in french and call you an anglo cunt
JUST

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*drives past this general*

DORKS!

gonna have some cheese in the hope it gives me a scary nightmare

this mong is showing himself up
everyone knows what an oven pizza is

>>74514775
>gif
No thanks (not yet)

>>74514762
can you start timestamping every facial twinge and expression this literally who you keep posting?
would like to add it to a secured archive file for later

>>74514748
hei Hajosiko Toyotasi

>>74514776
dont think you understood my post

Just the open road, my buds, my tall boys and a fine pair of cargo shorts

This is what the U-S of A is about! Woooooo

out with the dudes tonight

gonna go iron my finest tapout shirt

BIT offended by this paddy here

most beautiful village near ur ends lads?

>>74514775
those tits are an abomination

>>74514775
But that's a boy

>>74514785
Thank you mate

>>74514775
would look MUCH better without the breast lumps

>>74514792
>>74514784
Nice samefagging you fucking retards, where do you think takeaway pizzas are cooked LOL?

Hey buds remember to tip each others paypals at the end of the thread!

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really into ukrainian girls lately lads

>>74514803
Fuck off, truck boy

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anyone been to budapest? is it worth a visit?
got a long summer ahead and i hear it's cheap

>>74514820
logan city

STOP RIPPING ON SUPERIOR AMERICAN CULTURE, BROS

>>74514820
>Triplet is an unincorporated community located in Brunswick County, in the U.S. state of Virginia.Triplet has one operating general country store called "Triplet Junction", Triplet Recycling, and the "Triplet Vol. Fire Dept. Triplet is a quiet, safe, christian community, and some people believe that Triplet will grow to reclaim its long lost "town" status.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triplet,_Virginia

>>74514829
gf(male)

Tell your whore mother that me and the buds are getting rinsed and wasted on tall boys to night so she can stick her alimony payments up this American ass!

Woo0000! USA USA

>>74514800
i mean you're an immigrant and all i understand english is not your first language, but come on you have to learn it

>>74514852
Ukranian girls are a uglier version of polish ones

>>74514844
think everyone knows what oven pizza means though

>>74514852
Love ukrainian girls
Hate nazis
not a lefty, just don't like rorkes simple as

>>74514852
that's hilarious

"oven pizza" wasn't that odd. nobody calls them that but I understood what he meant. It was the instant defensiveness over making a mistake and the projection calling the other lad an autist that I found funny.

Just my 2p on the matter :3

wow brit is really gay

*sees you oleave without tipping at dinner*

hey broski, here's a tip. leave a tip!

hahah save some pop tarts for me, buddy!

bf just tried putting it my arse again
starting to think he's gay

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>>74514820
this one probs desu

>>74514855
My father went. It worths a lot, a really cheap city and with lots of thigs to visit and do

>>74514876
what is?

>>74514896
literally been there

anyone here want a brojob hahaha

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>>74514875
You're the only mong who keeps pushing 'oven pizza' they're called premade pizzas you stupid spazmoid

>>74514887
What! You foul harlot!

DUDE you spilled CHEETOS all over the driveway! lol pick your face up man

am I doing it right?

>>74514896
old fishing town with small harbour is easymode desu
does look nice though

>>74514852
https://youtu.be/3WM50U5f5u4?t=54s

>>74514918
so, are you Chinese are Japanese?

clothes are in the washer, can someone give me a reminder in 28 minutes that they're done

bro am i being detained

>>74514871
poles are west slavs

different ethnicity from ukrainians (east slavs)

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>when you spend your Christmas bonus on oven pizzas

tim is getting really upset at oxford health
he says they're trying to mess with his head

>>74514878
What do you call them then?

>>74514899
yea it's probably cheaper than most other destinations in europe, problem is the capital will have a lot of other brits in summer which I want to avoid, but the non touristy parts are probably shite

>>74514914
same

>oven pizzas
>atheism
>communists

lot of 14 year olds here today

>>74514926
that was my only post on the matter but whatever
i dont hear em called premade pizzas either
not a fan of your avatars

>>74514958
pizza

As a good American me and my buds adhere to the three T's of life, it's totally tubular:
Tall boys (500ml of American piss, home brew baby)
Tips (you Gotta tip broski!)
Tapout (t shirts)

This is how to be a good American dudebro! Thx 4 listening buds

when you are doing a wank with the lads, is it rude to look at them cumming or rude not to look?
asking for a friend

>>74514972
thanks for not including agnosticism lad x

>>74514958
'za

>>74514977
shut the fuck up cunt

>>74514958
runt fodder

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>>74514958
I just call them pizzas mate lmfao

Do you call burgers grilled burgers? Do you call tea boiled tea?

>>74514935
what an amazing arse

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>>74514973
Nice try you fucking mong, guarantee you're ABSOLUTELY seething when you realised how fucking stupid 'oven pizza' is LOL

>>74514951
it's just a linguistic group though

Dude chuck me a Bud Light™

>>74514959
Non tourist parts are not that good and safe, if you want to avoid brits go to Krakow, really comfy place

>>74514977
tallboy's are 700 ml dumb ass!!!

>>74515003
steamed hams

>>74514926
>premade pizzas
no they're not

>>74515003
>he's never had a grilled pizza

>>74515009
sorry bud only got a 6 pack of Miller™

>cornwall and norfolk have no motorways

farting and screaming

I don't like the Americans in here, trying too hard to fit in

>>74515009
here you go breh lets turn up!

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0Kyz8R7LfMR

Dude I blew my last five bucks on a tallboy

Hey, atleast I'm wasted!

business idea: make a new in 160 seconds

it's called a frozen pizza you mongs

>>74515035
nice

>>74514935
>open the vid and see the comments
>some poor Brazilian trying to hook up her
Jesus i love my nation

>>74515035
pooing and weeing at this vocaroo

>>74515033
I've been around brits online for 14 years, you pick up habits

>>74515046
What if it's not frozen

television rules the nation

bro we're gonna do tequila shottss woooooo

what the fuck is a tallboy

>>74515029
>wanting a big ugly road tearing up your countryside

oh wait
what countryside as you're probably a paki londonder runt. howling at your life

Everyone just calls them pizzas. If you had to differentiate them from homemade or takeaway pizzas you'd just call them a supermarket pizza or a frozen pizza (if it was frozen) or a premade pizza or something. Not a fucking oven pizza unless you're a spastic who doesn't know that all pizzas are cooked in ovens.

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going to bed

night lads

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>>74515003
>He's now using Brad images to pretend to be me

SCREECHING, absolute state of oven boy

>>74515062
then it's a pizza

if you make it yourself it's a handmade pizza

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>>74515007
...
alright

>>74515046
think there's a distinction in that oven pizzas are refrigerated whereas frozen pizzas go, well, in the freezer

>>74514935
>>74515052
Btw he post his cellphone number... it's +55 (45)9831-3884

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they're called frozen pizzas you utter trogs

>>74515082
then it's just a pizza

can we talk about phimosis

>>74515080
>handmade pizza
but doesn't the person in dominoes make it by hand

can't believe you're having this argument

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/features/10-best-oven-pizzas-2354175.html

BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

>>74515033
but none of this fratboy posting is even remotely bothersome
i've got a ton of good laughs
*turns up Michael Savage while sipping a Busch*

Dude we gotta lose our V-cards before prom!!!!

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>How could you eat oven pizza? That's fucking disgusting!
*makes a pizza from scratch and bakes it in the oven*
>Ahhh yes, delicious non-oven pizza

Right this poll will sort out these mongs pizza argument

http://www.strawpoll.me/12911433
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>>74515054
reckon you need a nappy

>>74515113
>before prom
it's after prom dumbass

Hey buds it ain't an oven pizza and it sure as shit ain't grilled

It's a good old fashioned Italian American sloppy joe calzone, rinse one of em nasty fuckers down with a phat tallboy

>>74515113
dude i snuck 3 of my dads buds. we're gonna be so wasted for prom bro!

>>74515098
they're all 'just a pizza' i guess, oven pizza's how they're commonly referred to here
i mean it's not like someone's gonna think twice if you call one by the wrong name

>>74515104
it's not really an argument when everyone calls it frozen pizza and the other guy is memeing/arguing for the state of arguing

>>74515100
yes they even call it handmade

>>74514775
Name? (asking for a friend)

MOM'S GONNA FREAK

>>74515038
my god mate you are really obsessed with tallboys
*turns up Godsmack*

>>74515135
I take my pizza very seriously

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motorway density is linearly correlated to paki density. FACT.

>microwave pizza
>oven pizza
>stonebaked pizza
>grilled pizza
it's not uncommon to call pizza by the way you cook it desu, and it carries important information about how runty it is

>>74515125
Naww dude you gotta be experienced or else stacey will think you're a LOSER!

>>74515161
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>>74515110
>The Independent
Tears literally streaming down my face

>>74515123
8-0
Bradley posting mong will never recover

HEY! JERKOFF! This is the last time I'm gonna say it, it ain't pizza, it's sloppy joes bud

>>74515189
the irony here is most of those guys have names like Halloran and O'donnell but they are at least not harmful like the niggers and will help people on the side of the road broken down, etc.