Friendly reminder that Germans are a mongrel race

>>74494294
reminder that you surrendered to mongrels

>>74494294
Fuck off Trojan/Pannonian Celt/Frank/Hebrew

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>>74494294
Friendly reminder that same goes for Brits

danes are just swedes

>>74494344
I'm Hebrew

>>74494294
all these people in the map excelpt poles came from the original "Germanic" people
get it "Germanic"
read that again
even Frenchies are a branch of the original Germanic people

your argument is completely wrong
if anything the fatherland is your original father
stop your BS froggy

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>>74494608
>even Frenchies are a branch of the original Germanic people

R1b is Celtic and French are Celtic in fact they're the father of all European R1b carriers

Germanic are a meme people created by the Prussians

>>74494895
Celts?!
anyone but a scientist would use that name
the Celts are a myth
the French atleast are not Celts
thats the same layman mistake of European descended burgers calling themselves "caucasian" while at the same time classifying e.g. Armenians and chechnyans who fekkin live in the caucasus as non caucasians

know real science not layman terminology
we had almost a similar thread yesterday as well

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>>74494399
Well, less than Swedes, but Swede-ish nonetheless.

>>74494294
>>74494349
and there is nothing wrong with that

>>74494294
>muh ydna

it's time to stop posting

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>>74494343
>>74494344
>>74494399
>>74494608
>>74495085
>>74495159
>>74495290
>>74495420
Reminder that this is OP, a 15 year old pubefaced beta

>>74495521
>muh 15 years old


Fuck off amerimutt

>>74495552
t. Romano-Celtic mutt

>>74495552
>telling people to fuck off because you can't actually dispute that you are a lonely neckbeard who shitposts about DNA on an Algerian 3D-printing social network

>>74495521
kek.

Jawless faggot

>>74495552
Shave your face kid

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Everyone is mongol?

>>74495674
I'm an Hebrew, and 23andme will soon prove it


>>74495679
>He is a lonely arabo-german mutt who believe the Third Reich was Multiracial and that Napoleon and Hitler were muslim


Go read the Quran,

>>74495733
>faggot

LMAO

Go prep the bull, blond cuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88uhseigTpI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsOLYjYomAw

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>>74495890
what the fuck are you on about mate

it's time to stop

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>>74496070
I'm not blonde and I don't have a gf that could cuck me.

Get fucked you chinless neckbeard beta loser.

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>>74496316
>implying you didn't say that you were a descent from a Nazi who fled to the US

>implying i you didn't say that the Reich was multicultural and posted pic related

>implying you didn't repeatidly praise islam


I was there, Hans al Germany

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>>74496348
>German
>Is not blond

So you're a French/Russian/Hun rape baby

>chinless neckbeard beta loser.

Speak more politely to your father, lowly crossbreed

>be german
>be not blonde
>fight for an ideaology that promotes your extermination
>prep the bull
>be happy with that
>call others cucks

>>74496574
didn't read lol

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>>74496481
>implying I said that I was a descent from a Nazi who fled to the US

>implying i said that the Reich was multicultural and posted some pic

>implying you repeatidly praised islam

Not all American flags are the same you fucking mongol

>>74494294
>dna haplogroups = ethnicity

Nice meme

>>74496672
implying you're not the only american who follow every threads about haplos and germans

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And they say finnish haploautists are wacked up.

I should've never ventured in this thread.

>>74496842
>doubling down

you do realize that this is a public forum, right?

Everybody is a mongrel in today's europe. You cannot claim that you are ethnically pure. Only your ethnic identity is left to you.

>>74494344
Not OP, but I'm Basque

Does that I mean I get free rein to make fun of you?

>>74496999
redpill me on basques pls

>>74497045
Only pre-Indo-Europeans to keep their language which is admirable, but they got cucked by superior Aryan R1bs to the point where they now have one of the highest R1b frequencies in Europe. Quite pathetic, really.

Oh look, it's the Polack with a new proxy

>>74496999
You can

Lowly crossbreed must know their place, and aknowledge that the only pure people in Europe are the Celts(Irish, French, Spaniards, Portuguese, Welsh, Scotts) and the Hebrews

>>74497086
The R1b thing is muddled and difficult to understand, this is no conclusion as to how it entered the Basque Country. When looking at autosomal tests there's very little Indo-European influence on the Basques, same with Sardinians.

Small scale Intermarriage would have been enough to spread it if the persons married into powerful Basque families, who would be having the most kids. The Basque Country being with Sardinia the most genetically isolated would make it extremely easy to spread it.

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>>74497120
I'm an Hebrew

>>74497407
They are cave men speaking aryans simple

>>74497407
It makes sense. Conquering R1b Indo-European men take multiple Basque women as wives. The resulting R1b male children are 50% Basque and 50% Indo-European. They are high status so they fuck lots of Basque women and produce lots of R1b male children who are 75% Basque and 25% Indo-European. This goes on until the Indo-European blood is diluted significantly and R1b becomes dominant. They only kept their language because there were very few Indo-European women involved and in ancient Basque society language was probably inherited from the mothers.

>>74494294
How do they know the DNA of Germans from Eastern Prussia when they were all expelled and replaced by Russians/Poles?

>>74497504
>taking a photo at the library just to LARP about being Jewish
embarrassing

>>74497868
By testing the male descendants of people from those regions who were expelled to modern day Germany.

>>74497670
There's no evidence of actual conquering, only trading amongst Basques and Indo-European speakers.

Thost marriages probably formed out of necessity for maintaining positive trade relations. Several Basque towns served as major trading points between France, and Portugal, and for a trading line that went all the way up to southern Scandi.

>>74498028
Irrelevant, they still got cucked to the highest degree.

>>74497868
Those Germans were R1a-M458 and Z283 anyway.

>>74497868
They used German diaspora


>diaspora comes from "x city" and is "x haplogroup"
>so "x land" was mostly "x haplogroup"

and so on

>>74498050
Basque matriarchal amazons raided r1b settlements to get their males you cis scum

>>74497917
>LARP about being Jewish
I'm not a Jew but an Hebrew and jews are Khazars and not genuine Hebrews

>>74498050
A group of people could have the haplogroup of one or two ancestors, while having 0.2% of those ancestors genetics.
Which in the case of the Basques, is evident by their autosomal DNA. E.g. the Indo-Euros traded potential dominance and conversion of this region over for literally nothing.

It's the rest of Europe that genuinely got cucked by Indo-Europeans.

>>74498344
Yeah but we are the Indo-Europeans, Basques are not. So we are the cuckolders, and Basques are the cuckoldees.

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Since the burger sperged out in the last thread and I had no way to respond due to personal matters, here it is. That should end this forever, if you deny it, there is truly no hope for you.

>The Nordic Bronze Age (also Northern Bronze Age) is a period of Scandinavian prehistory from c. 1700–500 BC. The Bronze Age culture of this era succeeded the Late Neolithic Stone Age culture and was followed by the Pre-Roman Iron Age. The archaeological legacy of the Nordic Bronze Age culture is rich, but the ethnic and linguistic affinities of it are unknown, in the absence of written sources. Some scholars also include sites in what is now Estonia, northern Germany and Pomerania, as part of its cultural sphere.
Which year does the Kurgan expansion and take-over of Scandinavia happen? You know the answer. Nordic Bronze Age culture was l1 and R1a mostly. l1 were obviously the native tribes, R1a Aryan invaders.

>Many finds indicate a strong sun worshipping cult in the Nordic Bronze Age and various animals have been associated with the suns movement across the sky, including horses, birds, snakes and marine creatures (see also Sól)
Exactly, a typical sun-cult. What happened after R1a Kurgan expansion? Aesir worship. - Worship of the Kurgan conquerors.
Same with war-culture and heroism cult. Notice the chariot, obvious R1a influence.

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>>74498412
As for the Germanic language and its origin. The basis for it were obviously those of the native cro-magnons, some of it came from R1a Kurgans and the rest, that finished the job came from ending R1b expansions. But it wasn't like you say that Germanics carried R1b because they had it in them since the begining, no it was brought to them, when R1b was already in Britian.

You will obviously meme about Ancient Proto-Kangz l1 and l2 Germanics, but that's simply silly. There was no Germanic or Proto-Germanic culture before Kurgans colonized Scandinavia. And they did a pretty good job, since East Germanics(carriers of R1a and l1 mostly) did the most and shaped Europe in the biggest way(creating old kingdoms that later evolved into modern kingdoms of Europe we know)

And here's also a pic of the subject you hate the most. Lusatian, Przeworsk, Wielbark and Pomeranian being M458.

>>74498406
We're the cuckolded children of the Europeans who got cucked by the Indo-Europeans into adopting their culture.

What you're saying is much like saying black people are Germanic.

>>74498412
>Which year does the Kurgan expansion and take-over of Scandinavia happen? You know the answer. Nordic Bronze Age
You absolute retard.

Corded Ware: 2900 BC - 2350 BC
Nordic Bronze Age: 1700 BC - 500 BC

The "Kurgan expansion and take-over of Scandinavia" happened during Corded Ware. Nordic Bronze Age peoples were NOT invaders, they had been there for many centuries.

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>>74498559
Another one to collection.

>>74498466
>since East Germanics(carriers of R1a and l1 mostly) did the most and shaped Europe in the biggest way
False. Anglos and Germans did (and continue to do) the most.
By the way, many East Germanic Kingdoms were killed off while essentially all West Germanic Kingdoms still survive to this day.

>>74498619
?

>the NEET pole returns with his psuedo science

@74498412
>l1 were obviously the native tribes

Really? If it is so obvious how come there are zero samples of I1 from ancient Scandinavia? How come it only appear during the Nordic Bronze age? How come it first appears in mainland Europe?

>b-but it has to be because I said so!
Nope. That's not good enough to hold to the scientific model. Everything you say is complete speculation and yet you treat it like fact.

@74498466
Germanic culture is a mix different cultures just like any other's not sure what you're trying to say here. Seems mostly to be mumble butthurt about east germans

>And here's also a pic of the subject you hate the most. Lusatian, Przeworsk, Wielbark and Pomeranian being M458.
What? All I said was Lusatians weren't slavs. There are not genetic samples from the Lusatian culture either so that is just more speculation on your part

>>74498559
>>74498619
Okay, since you're like an emotionally unstable ex-gf. I will stay calm and just assure you.

Nordic Bronze Age was R1a and l1. It came from Corded Ware, not from Venus mate.
>>74498715
lel

Even heard of the Visigoths, Ostrogoths? Who were the basis for Portuga, Spain and Italian Kingdoms.
>>74498763
You act like a little girl.

>>74494608
french are celts
>>74494349
so are the english

>>74498808
>Really? If it is so obvious how come there are zero samples of I1 from ancient Scandinavia? How come it only appear during the Nordic Bronze age? How come it first appears in mainland Europe?
It doesn't matter. l1 were the native cro-magnons from Doggerland.
>What? All I said was Lusatians weren't slavs. There are not genetic samples from the Lusatian culture either so that is just more speculation on your part
Neither Germanic were German.
Wielbark, Przeworsk, Lusatian were continued without any interruption. No Germanic or Slavic expansions changed that.

Rest of your butthurt post is just crying. So I won't even bother. The only thing I was always saying is that Germanic culture was a mix of cro-magnons, R1a Kurgans and R1b Celts, but you always cried about ethnic germanickangz from Venus.

I'm sorry Kurgan "hypothesis" hurts your feelings.

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>this kills the psuedo scientist pole

>he calls Kurgan hypothesis pseudo-science
>expects anyone to take him seriously
Either autism or just real stupidity.

Wouldn't be any different than Aussie larping as Germanic, French as a Jew and that other guy as a Frank.

I don't give a shit about my origins, they're clear to me. But you do everything to disprove work of people that were clearly smarter than you and did more than just larp on the computer.

>>74498810
>Nordic Bronze Age was R1a and l1.
You have no proof, they could have also been R1b. Europe was hardly "settled" during the time between Corded Ware and the Nordic Bronze age - migrations were still ongoing an groups like "Germanics" and "Celts" were not defined. It's likely that R1b-U106 entered northern Germany and Scandinavia during this tumultuous time and led to the creation of the Nordic Bronze Age.

>>74498996
> from Doggerland.
Proof? I1 is too young for Doggerland. Experts in this field mostly agree that I1 spread to Scandinavia from Jutland or possibly Funnelbeaker culture. Either way, it was most likely spread to Scandinavia from mainland Europe during the Aryan expansions after it was assimilated into Aryan culture.

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>>74499169
Pic related - I know you just love using Eupedia as evidence, so I got an Eupedia image to prove my point about R1b-U106.

>>74499226
Eupedia is shit

First Maciamo continue to say that R1b in Italy is not from the Gauls secondly he still maintain like an autist that R1b U106 in Britain comes from the Saxon while we have U106 in Pre Germanic Britain

>>74499226
R1b came after R1a.
Kurgans already shaped cro-magnons before it happened. War-culture, Aesir and "style" all came from the steppe.

And so far there's zero evidence that R1b-M269 originated on the Pontic steppe.

>>74499349
>And so far there's zero evidence that R1b-M269 originated on the Pontic steppe


This

R1b comes from Anatolia as Balaresque study proved it

>>74499349
R1b didn't have to originate there. It merely had to be there and consequently be spread to the rest of Europe. Which it was.

Surely you are aware of the R1b findings in Yamanya?

>>74499334
>First Maciamo continue to say that R1b in Italy is not from the Gauls
It's not, it's from the italic tribes

>t R1b U106 in Britain comes from the Saxon while we have U106 in Pre Germanic Britain
Maybe he isnt a child like you are and has nuanced views about things. He said himself that he believes the majority of R1b-u106 came with germanic people but that there were non germanic subclades in Britian beforehand too

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>>74499334
True.

Maciamo is a butthurt pan-germanist, just like the burger in here.
>>74499443
>R1b findings in Yamanya
Of course.

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>>74499471
>italic tribes

Why does the AREA SETTLED BY ITALIC TRIBES HAVE NO R1B THEN ????

>and has nuanced views about things


LMAO

He has no nuance he literally say that "U106 IS GERMANIC N SHEIT N P312 WUZ ALSO GERMANIC N SHEIT" "WE WUZ R1B R1A I1 I2 AND E3B WE WUZ EVERYTING N SHEIT"

>>74499349
i think it's clear from your posts that you view R1a kurgans has some kind of warrior god culture and you try to connect yourself to it in replace of not having a real life yourself

>>74499484
>DA GERMANS DEY KEEPIN US DOWN NIGGA
This is pathetic, Maciamo isnt even german, he is a Walloon

>>74499560
>Why does the AREA SETTLED BY ITALIC TRIBES HAVE NO R1B THEN
>NO R!b
They do, it even says it your own fucking picture. italy is a huge mix of other cultures as well though

>"U106 IS GERMANIC N SHEIT N P312 WUZ ALSO GERMANIC N SHEIT" "WE WUZ R1B R1A I1 I2 AND E3B WE WUZ EVERYTING N SHEIT
What is this inferiority complex with Germanics? It's like they all fucked your mothers or something

>>74497045
The only people who will survive the collapse of France.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-UhSAJBm9E

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>>74499471
>It's not, it's from the italic tribes
Tbf a fair amount in northern Italy is from the Celts, but essentially all R1b in Central and Southern Italy is from the Italics as you say.

>Maybe he isnt a child like you are and has nuanced views about things. He said himself that he believes the majority of R1b-u106 came with germanic people but that there were non germanic subclades in Britian beforehand too
This. I find it enraging how everything in their minds has to fit into nice little perfect labels like "Germanic" and "Celtic" and so on. Hang on, what if R1b is shared by both Celts and Germanics, and isn't specific to either? No, that's too complicated for them to understand. R1b in Britain must be either ENTIRELY from Celts or ENTIRELY from Germanics. Absolutely retarded.

>>74499560
>Why does the AREA SETTLED BY ITALIC TRIBES HAVE NO R1B THEN ????
Try again, sweetie.

>>74499578
>i think it's clear from your posts that you view R1a kurgans has some kind of warrior god culture and you try to connect yourself to it in replace of not having a real life yourself
My family settled in Poland during Prussian rule. I'm most likely more "Germanic" than you are. And probably R1b not R1a, I don't care.

R1a was the first step in creation of Germanic culture, whenever you like it or not. And it was R1a Germanic tribes that nailed Roman Empire to the ground.

>This is pathetic, Maciamo isnt even german, he is a Walloon
He completely ignored West Slavs in Eastern Germany in his article about Poland.

It doesn't matter who he is, he's retarded.

>>74499701
>Tbf a fair amount in northern Italy is from the Celts, but essentially all R1b in Central and Southern Italy is from the Italics as you say.
The Gauls that settled in the Po river valley weren't from Gauls though, they were Boii from the Czech region. He is trying to claim that ALL of it was from Gauls

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>>74499701
And if that pic isn't proof enough, here's another.
Look at all the R1b in Central and Southern Italy were Italic tribes settled.

>>74499681

I have nothing against Germanics as long as they docilely accept the fact that they do not exist genetically speaking unlike Celts, and they keep in mind that they're mostly a mix of Old Europeans/Celts/Slavs

>>74499737
>My family settled in Poland during Prussian rule. I'm most likely more "Germanic" than you are. And probably R1b not R1a, I don't care.
I'm not even germanic, sure you are germanic than me congratulations.

>R1a was the first step in creation of Germanic culture, whenever you like it or not.
They were a piece

>And it was R1a Germanic tribes that nailed Roman Empire to the ground.
Even the info graph you love posting says that these east germanic only had R1a only at levels of 33 percent

>He completely ignored West Slavs in Eastern Germany in his article about Poland.
I don't even know what you are referring to here. Some East Germans probably have Polobian ancestry though

>>74499882
You do realise that Celts and their descendants are more genetically "Old European" than northern Germanics, right? Haplogroup frequency doesn't say anything about autosomal admixture.

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>>74499922
>They were a piece
A large one.
>>74499922
>Even the info graph you love posting says that these east germanic only had R1a only at levels of 33 percent
Goths and Vandals carried both Z284 and l1.
In case of Vandals(since they became a confederation) it was also original Przeworsk M458, which can be found in Sardinia.
>I don't even know what you are referring to here. Some East Germans probably have Polobian ancestry though
>some
:^)

>>74499922
>My family settled in Poland during Prussian rule. I'm most likely more "Germanic" than you are.
According to you, Prussians were merely Germanised Slavs and not Germanic at all.

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>>74499882
>I have nothing against Germanics as long as they docilely accept the fact that they do not exist genetically speaking unlike Celts, and they keep in mind that they're mostly a mix of Old Europeans/Celts/Slavs
They arent though, celts, slavs did not exist back then and who knows what you're referring to when you say old europeans.

>>74500057
Once again, amazing reading comprehension.

Congratulations.
>>74500087
Neither did the Germanics.

>>74500027
>A large one.
I'm hoping the pic you posted isn't an attempt to prove that statement.

Look at how much more frequent R1b is in Scandinavia and northern Germany/Jutland, aka the Germanic urheimat.
>>74499701
>>74499785

>>74500125
Cultural? A HUGE ONE.
Genetic? Not so much, they were the elite, their gods. Satem names, not Kentum.

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>>74499991
>Celts and their descendants are more genetically "Old European" than northern Germanics

It's the contrary

West Europeans are mainly R1b(IE) while North Euros are I1(Old Europeans)


>>74500087
Proto-Celts were a thing, see Bell Beaker

>>74500183
Why did you post that pic then? What were you trying to prove? It's unrelated to the other point you were trying to make as well.

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I'm R1b-U198 and better than all of you.

: ^ )

>ywn be descended from a coastal Germanic tribe whom sailed the North Sea and cucked Celts

>>74500027
>A large one.
Okay?

>In case of Vandals(since they became a confederation) it was also original Przeworsk M458, which can be found in Sardinia.
Okay but they werent related to you or to poles. Also you still havent given any sources of where they found ancient dna from the vandals

>>74500117
They existed before slavs and celts. Slavs don't appear until after christ and the celts around 500bc. Meanwhile the Germanic culture had existed since 1400bc

>>74500242
>West Europeans are mainly R1b(IE) while North Euros are I1(Old Europeans)
Germanics are autosomally more Indo-European than continental Celts and their descendants.

>>74500242
>bell beaker
Were also ancestral to Italics and Germanics, it's not like it was ancestral to only celtic people.

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>>74500249
It was to the Burger that claims that only "some" East Germans have typical West Slavic M458. Not you.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germania_Slavica
>>74500273
>Okay but they werent related to you or to poles. Also you still havent given any sources of where they found ancient dna from the vandals
Only Vandals and Romans went to Sardinia. What do you see there? M458, exactly.

M458 belongs to West Slavs. Doesn't matter if they were called that yet or no. Veneti, whatever. The cycle of Pomeranian Culture, Wielbark, Przeworsk, Lusatian was never severed. Not by any "Slavic" expansions.

Whatever.

>>74500318
>autosomally
So they do not descent from them unlike Western Euros


>>74500324
mmm

>>74500394


>M458 belongs to West Slavs. Doesn't matter if they were called that yet or no. Veneti, whatever. The cycle of Pomeranian Culture, Wielbark, Przeworsk, Lusatian was never severed. Not by any "Slavic" expansions.
A haplogroup doesnt belong to a certain modern group of people especially when the Lusation culture was heavily influenced by the Nordic bronze age cultures

>The cycle of Pomeranian Culture, Wielbark, Przeworsk, Lusatian
Yes by both the germanic people and slavs, they had distinct material cultures from both

>>74494294
>south
>french
say that to my face not online and see what happens

Also why do people call I1 cro-magnon?

Most samples from the Paleolithic aren't even from haplogroup I, the majority are from other extinct lineages.

Also Y-dna I1 has not even been found in any paleolithic or even Mesolithic group, it first appears in the neolithic

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>>74500684
>muh violence

Typical germnegroe

We will train you to make you civilized again

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>>74496672
>>74496904
>>74496316
>>74495679
>>74495521
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

TRY TO DENY IT NOW

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>>74501945
Sine I was included here I'll just say that only one of these posts are mine

>>74502055
Sure thing paki