And also, what is the best way to learn Arabic, without the same problem?
>>74469854
Bump.
>>74469854
Turkey produces a shitton of series and movies. You can try them if you can watch them without feeling cringy
Also i think songs are the best way to learn a language and memorize words
Turkey produces a good deal of songs too so picking a song up and following the lyrics would help you a lot
>>74469854
who cares, you wont be able to understand ottomanese
>Also i think songs are the best way to learn a language and memorize words
bs, i have been able to speak English fluently ever since i was like 13 and couldnt understand songs until recently (im 20)
>>74469854
if you're trying to not sound formal, you should find someone to practice while learning. Because Turkish has a hard-ish grammar most of the words used in daily speech are somewhat transformed to better fit the flow (thus being easier to pronounce and having a sense of informality at the same time)
so the best way to learn about is would be actually engage in daily conversations whilst talking to a real person
learning without sounding overly formal is a little too vague of a question. could you elaborate, why are you learning and with whom are you planning to speak Turkish?
>>74469854
Ya allah bismillah allahuekber
There it is m8
>>74470381
Understanding the songs alone is about listening comprehension
But i offered him to follow the lyrics, which doesn't require much listening comprehension skills
kim /diaspora/
>>74470302
>>74470381
>>74470456
Thank you.
Any recommendations?
>>74470342
Elaborate?
>>74470431
I'd like to learn a language that I somewhat have use for, ordering a kebab and chatting with them.
>>74470484
Wat?
>>74471765
Ah so your not diaspora
>>74471765
Modern Turks can't understand Ottoman Turkish, so it's kinda lame that you won't be able to understand historical/cultural pieces from the empire.
>>74471852
Why did their language change so much and how?
>>74471883
atatürk
>>74471821
Lord no, why would an Englishman move to Turkey?
>>74471910
So, he utterly rebuilt their national image out of spite?
What a twat.
>>74471968
he removed the arabic words
>>74472022
Because he was a prick who liked destroying history?
>>74471968
He's the equivalent of Mao + Varg cultural revolution - anti Abrahamism except he get praises for it
>>74471923
I meant the other way round
>>74472116
Sounds like a right bellend, to be honest.
>>74472143
Ha ha, very funny. Are Turkish women beautiful?
>>74472087
what?
>>74469854
italki
>>74470381
>>74470302
I think that may depend on the kind of music you listen to.
Music is basically how I learned German pronunciation and grammar