Europe monarchies

under 70% = cucks

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>>74452358
>21 century
>monarcy
>kingdom in countryname

>>74452246
We already hate our presidents i can't imagine much shit a king would get here.

so u be sayin
that we
are
kangz?

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>>74452397
>l1.jpg
Nicolas Cage's haplogroup is E1b1b-M84

>>74452246
This is why we can't have nice things.

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>>74452246
>More than 0%
DISGUSTING

>>74452397
>21st century
>creating cults of personality around elected leaders, half-blinding opposition figures and barring them from standing in elections, and then calling it a democracy
>using le current year argument on countries which are far more modern than yours in every respect

>>74452246
>The countries that have monarchies generally support their own monarchies.
Wow, this really stimulates the cranium.

>>74452397
t. Glorious eternal leader Putin I

>>74452246
>57%
new kingdom of georgia when

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>>74452531

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>>74452399
That's the thing about Monarchs, they don't do anything other than charity events and ceremonial duties, it's basically just a head of state that the entire country can rally around because they don't do anything that can piss you off, usually they do shit that makes you like them such as serving in the military.

>>74452544
>elected leader
>british comprehension of reality
literally africa tier elections and democracy

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>>74452246
>Majority of Georgians want monarchy back
>They're not a monarchy

>>74452397
I heard Russia was fireproof but then >>74452544 applied le Brit burn.

>>74452246
Why is Germany so low? I would like a comfy Hohenzollern kang

>>74452358
Support for the monarchy in Sweden will become stronger when the kings heir takes the throne since she is way more popular. How will it look like in UK when the queen dies?

>>74452615
>the stalin dynasty will take the throne of georgia in our lifetimes

>>74452544
absolutely savage

>>74452690
>if King Charles
support falls to the 50% range, Australia and Canada become republics
>if King William
probably stronger than ever before

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>>74452690
/ourguy/ will take the throne

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>>74452544
>far more modern
Is this a joke?

>>74452397
Being an dictatorship isn't better Ivan.

>>74452690
Nothing will change. Charles is nowhere near as unpopular as >>74452744 claims. Having such a massive public servant like the Queen die will probably result in a bump for support.

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>>74452745
>Prince Harry will never restore absolute monarchy in a bloody military coup
why even live

>>74452965
You just know her death will spawn an ocean of documentaries.

>>74452684
Wilhelm II abdicated almost 100 years ago and he was first and foremost the King of Prussia, now that Prussia is gone and Germany hasn't had a king for a 100 years, why would they suddenly want to change it? Not to even mention that the current pretender to the German throne is pretty much unknown to the majority of the public

I would be more interested in Austria, considering that the last Emperor Otto Von Habsburg was quite popular and a known public figure until the end of his days, but since that his son hasn't really had any publicity

>>74453042
he'd have my sword tbqh

>>74452246
Georgia wants to restore the monarchy even though they never were succesful kindgom or anything. Funny people.

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>>74452544
Navalny zaloginsya.

>>74452358
So supporting someone who has power to do anything he wants with you isn't being a cuck?

Did you ever heard about prima nocta right?

>>74453291
>What is the Georgian Golden Age

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>>74453291
>north ossetia-alania
reminder that south ossetia will never be yours

>>74453291
They're one of the oldest and most consistent nationalities, they didn't succumb to Islam or Russians.

You don't have to own huge amounts of useless land like Russian's did to be a successful monarchy.

>>74452690
I still can't believe you chose a fucking Bernadotte as your new king

>>74453353
what is it
that part of eurasia was always shithole just like balkans

>>74453291
>even though they never were succesful kindgom or anything.
Ah yes, Russian """""""""""""""""education""""""""""""""""".

Look up David the Builder, pidor.

>>74453513
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_Golden_Age

>2017
>giving peasants a saying

>>74453376
it already is tbqh famalam

they have a habit of taking bites out of neibourghing countries if they forget to send the kremlin a christmas card, that way they cant join nato

>>74453513
12th-century Georgia was a surprisingly powerful and wealthy kingdom (for the time)

Also, unlike pidorussians they actually survived the Mongols.

>>74453165
I was told the Habsburg's died out. Idk man just seems like a comfy thing. Some German I talk to said he met a prince of Saxony though so that's cool

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>>74453783
The main branch of the habsburgs died with this guy. The others are just cadet branches.

>>74453930
Does Spain miss them? Your under house bourbon atm and that is a cadet of Plantagenet actually

>>74453930
>>74454046
Capet* sorry

>>74453679
>survived the Mongols.
this meme again. all that "mongol invasion" bullshit was just a propaganda to make europeans hate us and see us some sort of violent asiatic tribe. the influence of mongols here is negligible.

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>>74454738
Sure Ivan.

Maybe stop acting like asiatic niggers for one.

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What does France and /int/ think of this guy, legitimist Louis XX

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>>74452246
>Spain
BUT WHY?

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>no data for France

THEY'RE AFRAID OF THE TRUTH

>>74455426
im a bonapartist myself so fuck him

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>It's a people like their own shit episode

>>74455789
>bonapartism

no legitimacy. only children of Capet can rule

>>74455789
I don't get how anyone could be a Bonapartist after the Napoleon III disaster. At least the Bourbons have centuries of semi-competent rule backing up their claim to the throne.

>>74455696
Catalans and Basques

>>74452246
It's 70% here tbqh
And only 8% want us to be a republic cunt.

>>74455912
Half of Europe may rule then.
Hugo Capet is a common ancestor

>>74455696
Reminder that the spanish kingdom is keeping the Breeching tradition.

Those are not little girls, they're little boys

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breeching_(boys)

>>74452744
Australia might become a republic if Charles becomes king, but I'm not so sure if Canada will.

He's not really that unpopular, at least not here, support might fall slightly but probably not to republic levels. Support would go through the roof though if William becomes king.

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>>74452674
>>74452714
they want the tsar back, obviously

>>74455975
come home Capetian KANGZ

Current Capetian rulers

Henri, Grand Duke of Luxembourg (since 2000)
Felipe VI, King of Spain (since 2014)

Current Capetian pretenders

Louis Alphonse, Duke of Anjou, Legitimist (Blancs d'Espagne) pretender to France since 1989.
Prince Pedro, Duke of Calabria, Calabrian pretender to the Two Sicilies since 2015.
Prince Carlo, Duke of Castro, Castroist pretender to the Two Sicilies since 2008.
Carlos, Duke of Parma, pretender to Parma since 2010.
Prince Sixtus Henry of Bourbon-Parma, Carlist pretender to Spain since 1979.
Henri, Count of Paris, Legitimist (Blancs d'Eu) and Orléanist pretender to France since 1999.
Prince Pedro Carlos of Orléans-Braganza, Petrópolis pretender to Brazil since 2007.
Prince Luiz of Orléans-Braganza, Vassouras pretender to Brazil since 1981.
Duarte Pio, Duke of Braganza, pretender to Portugal since 1976.

>>74456031
I find it hard to believe that racist shitposting Aussies would not want Charles tbqh

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>tfw no Monarchy

>>74455696
After Franco a lot of people continued to support the second republic, specially in the left wing.
I unironically prefer the king though. It's role it's basically as some sort of special ambassador able to regulate the democracy if anything were to happen.
If we could vote a president of the republic I'm sure we would put another corrupt retard in there that achieved it's position in the party through connections and without the most basic preparation like speaking foreign langauges. At least this way the guy in charge had an appropiate education.
>>74455912
I'm directly related to Capet, give me the throne pls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5TmhKY5nfc

How can you hate this?

>>74455696
Why would I want a king?

>>74452246
if violet is "no data", then what the fuck is light grey?

>it's..
That was a trick question, because I shouldn't even need to ask it because the colors should be explained in the map legend. I unironically think mods should start banning people for posting maps like these.

>>74456240
I'm Capetian too! Maybe we can become close friends? I'm sure our king has some Capetian blood too, because somebody from the house of Nassau married to the daughter of my ancestor.

>>74456270
Can't watch it, forbidden for my country....

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after over 400 years, we finally have a king to call our own again and the overwhelming majority of the country loves it

feels a bit good man

>>74456274
Spain was a world superpower under monarchy but has been nothing but irrelevant and poor since the republic.

>>74456240
>>74456358

wait wait wait, having blood isn't enough, all the male descendants must be members of the house of capet

>>74452246
>79%
>Dutch at 65%

Bullshit. If anything it's the other way around.

>>74456427
Spain was poor already long before the second republic was established

>>74456432
I will give up then. louis IX was based though

>>74455950
How could anyone be a royalist after the Louis XVI disaster?

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>>74456432
delet

>>74456630
>Louis XVI disaster

nice joke, debnts happened often. revolutions always happen because the elite wants it, the nobility was behind the revolution, the revolution was never about a republique it was about constitutional monarchy but then republicans showed up and took over.

>>74456490
wrong, retard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_miracle

Spain had one of the highest GDPs in the world, with second highest economic growth in the world, which was immediately halted in 1975 after the transition.

>>74456769
it had one of the highest growth solly because spain modernized, what does it has to do with anything?

>>74456907
the point is that political absolutism combined with economic liberalism works and it works very well

>>74456427
>Spain was a world superpower under monarchy

Spain was poor and weak long before the second republic was established. And the only countries that have ever been superpowers are the US, USSR, and arguably the UK.

>>74452246
The support here in Spain went to shit when the king abdicated, the heir got promoted to king and they and every important political party decided to ignore the masses that wanted to have a vote and having or not a monarchy. Even national TV didn't show the people grouped in all major cities.

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>>74456955
I disagree, only world superpowers were USA, UK, and Spain, in that order. USSR was totally irrelevant outside its immediate borders, whereas Spain (at its height), USA, and UK had global and often irresistible influence.

>>74457082
WE

>>74456954
the point is that modernization would have happened sooner without an absolute leader desu

absolutism is a coin toss, better hope for the guy to be smart of you're screwed for a long time.

I'm for an absolute leader that got elected

>>74457082
>USSR was totally irrelevant outside its immediate borders

The USSR had bases in Germany, nuclear missiles in Cuba, satellites orbiting the earth, and the ability to destroy any other country at the push of a button. You can't compare 18th century Spain to that.

>>74457216
Obviously any 21st century country has technological advancements that far outstrip 16th century ones. You have to analyze these things proportional to their time, and compared to other countries in the world during its lifetime, USSR was hilariously irrelevant. the same can't be said for historical Spain, especially when there was a Spanish pope.

>>74457216
yes you can, dummy, adjust for technology inflation

>only 21%
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, the first part of the last century was the most glorious of our history.

>>74452615
> kingdom of georgia when
>>74452674
>>74452714
>>74453291
>>74453353
>>74453376

Meme map, support for monarchy wouldn't even be 5% here

>>74457271
>>74457272
The whole point of the term "superpower" is that it was used to describe 3 countries that had an unprecedented ability to project power worldwide (then just 2, when Britain collapsed in the 40s and 50s, and finally 1 when the USSR collapsed in 1991). You can't separate that from technology, technology is what gives the term any sort of meaning.

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>>74452358
This.

>>74457271
>and compared to other countries in the world during its lifetime, USSR was hilariously irrelevant

Can't tell if this is bait or not

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>>74452397
Come back to the brotherhood, friend.

>>74452246
Republicanism is overrated tbqh

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>>74452965
If he's really unpopular or not is nearly irrelevant. People will suffer through him because afterwards it's William and Kate, and they're very much liked in the UK and the Commonwealth.

Odd how nations with great kings (sweden, netherlands, spain) score lower than nations who had shit-tier monarchs (denmark, norway, england, belgium)

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>>74457532
And in the US, for whatever that's worth. They're basically walking/talking good PR for your whole country over here. Plus, our king also struggles with premature baldness.

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>>74453042
He's a good lad.

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>>74456390
>a king to call our own
>it's a dane
hmmm

>>74453342
It's not different than a President who has the power to do anything that the oligarchy tells him to do.

>>74457871
he's a norwegian, his grandfather was a dane. besides, wont this mean your king is a frog?

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>>74458088
Frog in name, German in everything else.

>>74453042
When was the last time Britain had absolute monarchy, anyway? Like 500 years ago?

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>>74453042
we were so fucking close
>tfw the king refused and deescalated the coup

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23-F

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>>74457660
I find it funny how much Americans love the British monarchy when our country only exists because our ancestors told the British monarchy to fuck off. They're basically celebrities over here.

>>74452544
muh gays

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>>74453469
Well he wasn't our first choice. But still I'd say it was a very good one.

>>74459086
>"very good"
>kissed Russia's ass
>made zero (0) attempts to retake Finland even though that was why he was picked
>gave up Swedish clay to put us in a stupid union with norway that gave us literally nothing but trouble
>was so hated he nearly got thrown out
>never learned swedish
bernacuck a shit

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>>74453291
>what was the golden age

kys

>>74456390
Why is the monarch so popular in Norway compared to Denmark and Sweden? Is it just the king that is loved or is it the entire family?

>>74459736
I imagine that Norwegians just like everything. Nothing bad ever happens there except for that one time, it's hard for them to get upset.

>>74452690

>she

>>74452246
and proud of it.

>>74459837
lol nothing bad happens in Denmark and barely in Sweden either, what's your point? I have heard of numerous scandals happening in the Norwegian royal family, many being about the heir to the throne Haakon. Is he even popular?

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Kaiser Wilhelm, kehr hernieder
Und regiere du uns wieder
Lass in diesen schweren Zeiten
Lieber die Angela reiten

>>74459736
Because they've been independent for just over 110 years? It's hard for us to understand since we've been free from Denmark since 1523.

>>74459736
the kings we've had since we put that dane in charge has been pretty based

for example, our previous king, when asked by some foreigners why he didn't use any bodyguards in public, he said that he had 4 millions of them. he walked around with people in public and took the train like a normal citizen

might also have something to do with us having to share our kings with other people for a really long time and now we've got our own

>>74460274
How popular is your heir though? In Sweden our heir Victoria is far more popular than our king and will most likely boost the popularity when she takes the throne. Will it be the same in Norway or the opposite?

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>>74460274
>norwegian king is intelligent and based
>swedish king is literally a retard

>>74460334
I found an article from 2014 that said his heir keeps getting more and more popular. Harald definitly got that grandfather of the entire country vibe which gives him an edge but I'd say the heir is fairly popular too

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>>74452246
Monarchy is disgusting, all people are equal, blacks whites, Muslims and Christians.

Vote Corbyn.

>>74452358
useful idiot

>>74457276
It sucked, Transylvania missed the opportunity to become Switzerland of the East

>>74452246
>modern European """"monarchies""""

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>>74459086
The matter was decided by one of the Swedish courtiers, Baron Karl Otto Mörner, who, entirely on his own initiative, offered the succession to the Swedish crown to Bernadotte. Bernadotte communicated Mörner's offer to Napoleon, who treated the whole affair as an absurdity. The Emperor did not support Bernadotte but did not oppose him either and so Bernadotte informed Mörner that he would not refuse the honour if he were elected.

>Hey Monsieur Napoleon, would you mind if we take one of your shittiest marshals as our new king? Yes, the very same guy you've been trying to get rid of lately


I mean i'm very much a monarchist but I would never support a king who'se only claim would be "He treated us nice in the war and Napoleon would accept him as our king"

I would've loved to have this man as my king

>>74456334
light grey means that the country has never had a monarch of it's own, although we actually had a king for 4 months but he never even arrived in finland

According to the latest polls only 8% of the Dutch population wants a republic.

20% wants more power to the King.
While 16% wants less power to the King.

>>74459242
>>made zero (0) attempts to retake Finland even though that was why he was picked
That would've been rather humorous, Swedes attacking Russia only to go back home with their tail between their legs again.

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>2017
>still having a monarchy
LOL

>>74461511
And the "support for the monarchy" in the sense if he does his job well is 70%.

>>74461682
Yes, I'm sure it would've been. Now if we're being serious Sweden did have a couple of opportunities at which it could've attempted to retake at least portions of its former territory.

>>74452397
At least they have democratic governments and human rights Sasha

>>74452246
>our border lines have disappeared
Why did the Dutch one get edited? Into some wrong numbers even.

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>>74461205
>my king
Should I break the news to him?

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>>74461943
>calling him Per-Sven
>when he's talking about a son of Kaiser Wilhelm II

Anyhow, the Kaiser wasn't into it.

>>74461742
Republicanism is Communism.

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>>74452397

but really Russians are such idiots it would be better if they would have Tsar with family ties to existing crowned families abroad.

>>74452246
We almost ended up with a prince on the Prague castle, except that he would have become president.
We also are calling him 'the sleeping beauty' except that he is neither pretty, nor a Kolowrat.
But that is as close as we have ever got. And our monarchist are not really helping, wanting either the restoration of Habsburgs, which is bordering treason, or for UK to lend us Charles, once the Queen skips over him in favor of William.

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Monarchs are so aesthetic, as long as they don't have real control.

>>74452657
Russian education

God save the Queen, monarchy is the most civilized form of government. Any monarchy is better than none.

>>74453342
Prima nocta didn't actually exist you goof

>>74460702
Based Corbs

UP THE RA!

>>74463857
Sure, but if an absolute monarch wanted to fuck your wife, what the hell are you going to do to stop him?

>>74458462
approximately

>>74465540
Legally there is nothing you can do if the Dutch king rapes anyone.

>>74465848
Because he's inviolable he can just run around with an assault rifle and nobody is allowed to defend himself.

>>74465958
funny
i think the queen can be arrested if she murders someone

whether she would be is a different thing entirely

>>74465958
The King is a trained jet and apache pilot though. So getting shot by an apache is more likely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO-9h6jGgUw

>>74466040
The constitution says the ministers are responsible for anything the King does.

>>74466091
>king kills someone
>house of parliment collectively get put in prison for murder
>absolute monarchy restored

hmm

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>prince philip being 95 will be doing fewer royal duties
>it'll mean more strain on her majesty

>>74466150
Technically all Dutch ministers have equal powers. And the King and one minister together can sack the other ministers, the parliament, take control of the army, mayors/police and judges.

>>74466292
tacticool rent boy with a shite moustache

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all the legitimate heirs to the throne are dead, we can't restore the monarchy

>>74466455
theres always another heir

>>74457082
Is this the power of common core?
The most powerful nation in the world after World War 2 (the USA) fought a crypto war with the USSR for almost 50 years which almost culminated into a nuclear war BECAUSE the USSR had global influence. Nowadays Russia has close to none global incluence I gotta admit, but then again how important has Spain been since the loss of their empire?

>>74466629
imagine if all the spanish speaking world united

>>74466539
William of Orange his original title was actually "placeholder" because we had no King.

Only in the 19th century we elected a King.

>>74455696
Since Franco killed the second republic and reinstated the monarchy, all leftist parties are against it.

Since being leftist is supposed to be cool among the young, most of them are republicans.

>>74466816
>we elected a King

kek

>>74466816
isn't william of orange and william the conqueror the same dude

>>74466882
Napoleon had conquered us and turned us into a monarchy.
It worked pretty well.

Because the Dutch republic was as more bureaucratic than today's EU, with politicians from each region going home to their own province to discuss things before every vote. The democracy is in our republic was so bad that we even gave corporations governmental powers because they did a better job.

So after Napoleon was defeated we decided to get our own King. Who could make quick decisions if needed.

>>74466883
No, William of Orange is William the Silent.

>>74467027
During republican times we also had like a dozen armies because each state was doing their own thing.
Pretty much how you would imagine the USA without a functioning federal government.

>>74463570
i thought the habsburgs were well liked in czechia

>>74466883
Get out.

>>74454738
russia wouldn't have appeared without mongols allowing moscow to have a lot of influence to collect taxes efficiently.

>>74467027
>was as more
was even more
>democracy is in our republic
democracy in our republic

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>>74452397
Why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHQWpcpJVM0

>>74454738
are YOU D I Z Z Y
BLAD

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>>74466539
the last King left no heirs and the current """"""claimant"""""" is a fraud and a foreigner

there's also some Italian faggot claiming to be the descendant of some bastard daughter of Carlos I


if we restore the kingdom we should just take a Spanish Infanta our Queen since the Spanish Monarchs are descendants of the 2nd Dynasty, the best Dynasty to ever rule Portugal

>>74463618
>>74462239
The people of a nation can somewhat effectively elect a group of representatives to simplify discourse and reach political consensus. The public can DEFINITELY not elect a single sovereign as head of state, that shit does not work.

>>74467543
Our monarchy was elected. Your argument is invalid.

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>>74465540
>Amerilard literally argues against first-night practice

>Georgian Golden Age
thought you joked when you said this

>>74467597
Your monarchy, or your current monarch?

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>>74452246
People in Britain are disgusting, servile runts

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>>74467543
i wouldnt mind a monarchical system where a king would replace our president, with the sole exception that the king couldn't pardon anyone, and that he wouldn't have as much power in foreign policy as our president has

>>74467709
Originally. Not our current one.

But he was de facto the King already anyway. Because he led our troops against the French and everyone just listened. And the ministers and senate listened to him as well.

After all, he was descendant from the founder of our nation.

All monarchists deserve the Nicholas II treatment.

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>be Amadeo
>get elected king of Spain
>tfw you doesn't understand Spanish
>tfw they guy who believed in you and made you king gets killed before you even arrive to the country
>tfw when everyone hates you even though you try your best
>tfw you abdicate out of hopelessness because politicians will keep ruining the country no matter how hard you try
>tfw Spain is so retarded it elects a Bourbon king AGAIN afterwards

Never 4get.

>>74467812
Actually, the government wanted to make him King.
But he refused, and made himself Prince instead. :^)
And then senate changed the constitution to grand him absolute power.

>>74453353
>Georgian Golden Age
actually thought you were joking when you said that

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>>74452531
Tercera República Española?

Love my Queen

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>>74452246
This guy is our king.

>>74453304
Punished Navalny?

>>74460372
Knugen is alright.
His heir is another story, and i don't get the idea of prince and princesses acting like degenerated.

>>74452246
Monarchy is so disgusting and childish