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This country is falling apart. USA and Russia are clashing in the Balkans again, Macedonia is the victim.

Realistically, this is even less country than a Kosovo, Kosovo at least is 90% Albanian.

There are riots, and there was a clash in parliament few days ago.
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hang in there our brother in rising sun
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can't wait to see it being split between albania and bulgaria
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They're getting KAWAII'ED
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>>74248530
nobody actually wants independent macedonia.
albanians want to split it, bulgarians take the slavic parts, greek nationalist see it as former greek lands, and serbs as origin of ancient serbia (capital of middle age serbia was in skopje)

if this shit really escalates bosnia's next, i don't even want to imagine it
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>>74248268
Only your flag will continue to live forever in a place in the internet of Japan.
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Finally.

This pathetic cyst has existed for far too long.
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>>74248724
>greek nationalist see it as former greek lands
not really, we just want Constantinople and Smyrna desu
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>>74248268
Orbán's wall will come in handy once again.
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>>74248268
its just another useless slavic shithole
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>>74248788
that's impossible

how do you greeks see this with erdogan, in bosnia they celebrated when he won on a referendum, since muslims there know only he can support them in case shit in bosnia escalates again
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everything is fine

nothing is gonna happen

there will not be a civil war (sorry portu/spain bros)

albanians and macedonians live in peace here

we will join eu and nato within 5 years

we just have a problem with a few corrupt politicians which will be prosecuted in the following months

thats all
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the balkans have been on eternal life support since the fall of the ottomans
literal tribal mentality infects the balkan mind
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>>74248842
but croatia will help bosniaks again, like when serbs tried to remove them
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I WILL BLOW MYSELF UP BEFORE GIVING SHIPTARS ONE CM OF LAND
THEY SHOULD ALL DIE

DEATH FOR MUSLIMS
GLORY TO EUROPE
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>>74248889
This

Zaev will keep Peace and make Macedonia Great
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>>74248842
turkey is dead
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>>74248889
>we will join eu and nato within 5 years

nah, you were supposed to join NATO with croatia 10 years ago. You won't join NATO until you solve problems with all your neighbours. And that can't happen.
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>>74248901
we must revive the byzantine empire, its our only hope
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>>74248889
I don't think so. We've never had masked nationalistic mobs storming parliament and lynching minority politicians.

Macedonia is a powder keg.
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>>74248889
Basically this.
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>>74248929
Macedonia is already great because it is Greek.
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>>74248948
can't the strongest in the balkans just chimpout and conquer the rest of them to end this cycle once and for all?
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>>74248973
we dont want that landlocked piece of clay, bulgaria can have it
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>>74248954
>>74248946
>let me tell you about your country
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>>74248908
of course, serbs tried to take parts of croatia, couldn't let that happen

now, things are bit different, if bosnia starts falling apart, serbian and croatian parts will automatically join with mother countries. But question of borders would remain. That would make us enemies again
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>>74249023
you could just revive yugoslavia and all your border problems will be solved
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>>74249004
It is better to replace the slavic subhumans with animals.
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>>74249008
>country

there's a problem with Macedonia, it's most unstable country in the Balkans. At least Bosnia is kept together by Croatia and Serbia, and EU
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>>74248889
>we will join eu and nato within 5 years
>a good thing
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>>74249069
yugo never worked, it would just freeze problems for some time
i think balkans can't be solved, since it's never left alone, some power always messes with balkans.

Left alone balkans would stabilize
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>>74249103
Macedonia is a stable region in Greece.
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>>74248954
>We've never had masked nationalistic mobs storming parliament and lynching minority politicians.
Minority as in nonwhites and stuff or minority groups?
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>>74249231
No, "minority" as in Albanians are 40%+ of the population of FYROM.

That kind of "minority".
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>>74249174
>german humour
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>>74249231
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/04/macedonia-parliament-zaev-nationalist-violence-eu-europe/524733/
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>>74249307
oh boy here we go again... Guess where he is from...
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>>74249307
I am a Greek
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>>74249340
umm... Germany?
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>>74249287
>>74249323
Wtf what savages. Are they third worlders or something.
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>>74249420
Gruevskists are 4th worlders
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>>74249420
What side?
Albanians or Bulgarians pretending they are Alexander the Great?
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>>74249457
yeah, that identity building is really strong now in Macedonia
they refurbished Skopje to make it look more antique + they're renaming places + building statues of Alexander and Philip

Macedonians were shaped to Macedonian identity by communists, who also gave Muslims in Bosnia ethnicity, which is supposed to be separated from religious identity, but in reality, you can't be Bosnian if you aren't Muslim
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>>74249569
WE WUZ ALEXANDER AND SHIT
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>>74249569
Macedonians are Greeks
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>>74249652
Greeks are Turks durrr

Macedonian ITT is a guy from FYROM
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>>74249690
no
Greeks are Greeks
turks are subhumans
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>>74249569
Walking around in Skopje would be cringe festival right about now.

I can already picture the big eyed tourist guides trying to convince the 10 yearly visitors to the country how fyromians are the sons and daughters of Alexander the great and then show some stone on the city flor where he could or could've not pissed on.
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>>74249569
>who also gave Muslims in Bosnia ethnicity, which is supposed to be separated from religious identity, but in reality, you can't be Bosnian if you aren't Muslim
This fucking meme again
>Bosniaks are people live, mostly, in Bosnia. They belong to southern Slavic peoples, speak Bosnian language, which belong to Slavic group of languages. Bosniaks are the inhabitants of Bosnia for centuries, almost for thousand years.
>Unlike the Serbs and Croats, who have given the name to their lands by the name of people (so Serbia got name by Serbs, and Croatia by Croats), Bosniaks have got the name by the name of land – Bosnia. Bosnia is Illyrian word, Illyrians took that name from river Bosnia.

http://www.bosanski-nacionalisti.org/bosniaks-faq.html

Stop projecting you subhuman faggot
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>>74248773
>coming from Portugal
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>>74249457
>>74249569
>>74249601
You need to know something. I, and with certainty I can say many others, don't give a shit about Alexander. I don't give a shit about history, about the stupid statues about the stupid we wuzery.
I don't give a shit.
You can call me a Macedonian, Bulgarian, Serbian, Slav, I don't care about that either.
What I care is to make Albanians disappear one way or another. THIS is the most important thing. Nothing else.
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>>74249927
Albanians won't disappear. They're expanding, that would be non-historical that expanding nation loses.

I expect Albania in natural borders, Albania + Kosovo + some kind of federated Macedonia (basically dual state) + what they can get in Montenegro in minority rights.

Bigger issue is can Macedonia ever function as a country? I doubt it, this is why I think Bosnia and Macedonia are destined for some kind of war, it simply can't be solved any other way.
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>>74250070
Macedonians want to stay in Greece.
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>>74250070
They can get that when you restore Serbian Krajina. Until then you can eat shit.
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>>74250160
there are no Serbs in Croatia anymore though.4

that did solve problems, but you can't do that with Albanians.
Krajina is natural part of Croatia, it can't function separately, it chokes since it need to be part of Croatian infrastructure to survive. After 4 years it simply exhausted, enthusiasm dwindled and when Croatia did something decisive it fell apart as house of cards.

That can't happen with Albanians in Macedonia, since they're directly linked with Kosovo and Albania. They can't go away. Serbs could, only those directly linked with Serbian border stayed.
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Macedonia needs to change its name to North Macedonia or something similar before they can join NATO. Otherwise Greece will reject it again.
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>>74250309
North Macedonia is a part of Greece.
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Macedonia is Bulgarian
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Alexander is Greek.

Macedonia is Greek land

What else is to discuss?
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>>74248268
>USA and Russia are clashing in the Balkans again
their issue has nothing to do with US/Russia
its entirely "internal"
none of this Soros shit
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>>74250989
Macedonia is Greek
bulgaria is a filthy slav shithole
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>>74250309
Change it to Vardarska.
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>>74251264
>Russia supports one guy
>USA supports other guy
...
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>>74250309
>>74250382
Greece actually suggested the name to them but they refused it.
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>>74251377
there is absolutely no significance to this, these are internal issues primarily with minor international relevance
neither VMRO nor SDSM will alter EU or NATO ascension, they are both ostensibly Atlanticist puppets

difference is, VMRO, like Serbia's SRS, is prepared to disingenuously paint its Western benefactors as the real enemy to sublimate the antagonism of its ultra-nationalist base, because they're fucking morons who'll follow whoever screams "ALEXANDER" loudest.
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>>74251436
And then they try to convince us that they don't care about we wuzzing...
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>>74251332
Macedonia is Bulgarian you filthy roach
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>>74251436
proofs?

>>74251514
Macedonia is Greek you slavshit
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>>74251866
http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/macedonia-pm-addresses-northern-macedonia

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/bulgaria-says-no-to-name-northern-macedonia
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>>74252005
very weak of Greece
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>>74252131
It's the Romans and Ottomans fault for being lazy with their regions desu
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>>74252324
that gif can destroy their whole meme nation
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>>74252515
>Byzantines defined Macedonia as most of Thrace
What?
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I am of Hellenic extraction
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>>74249732
>Walking around in Skopje would be cringe festival

Nah it's normal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOvg2SzxZJg
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>>74252621
They moved the Macedonian Theme because of Slavic invasions
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>>74248842
Turkey vs Greece (again) who wins?
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>>74252738
looks like a meme place like las vegas
show it at daylight or some of the rotting plastic buildings
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>>74252819
Greece
turkey is dead
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Just make another Alexander the Great, you macadamias.
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>>74252836
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>>74252879
Greeks seem to have a big navy, bigger than ours since the labour budget cuts which scrapped 6 destroyers and 3 frigates, although our stuff is bigger and more advanced.

Is Turkey vulnerable by sea?
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>>74248889
why

do you

space your post

like this??
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>>74249652
t. bin grieche
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>>74253205
turks underestimate the kurds a lot
the capital of belgium is 25% muslim
1 in 4
is a muslim
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>>74248268
Please god let the Alboos start a balkan war so that I can die without suicide.
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wiki says their motto is
freedom or death
any other cunts have "death" in their motto?
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>>74253481
Why would you die when you're over there..
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>>74253522
They took it from Greeks.
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>>74253684
sure

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Give_me_liberty,_or_give_me_death!
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>>74253814
slavshits took it from Greeks
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>>74248268
Yes..
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>>74248268

nothing of value was lost so no one gives a shit really
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>>74254008
>>74254095
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>>74254238
why so serious, sashko?
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>>74248948
Byzantium is dead, but we survived. We won in the end, suck it greeks.
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>>74250070
>I expect Albania in natural borders, Albania + Kosovo + some kind of federated Macedonia (basically dual state) + what they can get in Montenegro in minority rights.
>supporting subhumans in their creation of Greater Albania
you are either retarded or a shqiptar yourself, there's no other explanation
and also you don't know what you're talking about. NO ONE of their neighbors loves them, except maybe Montenegrins. so that fantasy would NEVER come true as long as we live here
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great, more albanian refugees for us
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>>74250070
the more they expand the more Albanians seem to flee it.
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>>74248724
>greek nationalist see it as former greek lands
nope
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>>74248724
We actually don't give a shit about their land.
Our only concern is that they are trying to steal our history.
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>>74258754
your women suck dicks on every highway slav subhuman
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