Americans, what did she mean by this?

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>>74231087
I think she's stupid. Right-winger cucks and alt-right faggots and racists vote for these useful idiots for Russia because those idiots are racist, they don't care about their policies they just want to vote in a racist because it makes them feel in charge in a time where being wh*te is no longer relevant

>>74231087
American cuckservatives are traditionally libertarians, while Alt-Right Conservatives are pro-big government and support nationalization of a countries industries.

>>74231087
who's pete

she's pointing out that many conservatives don't have conservative values

>>74231160
>>74231196
there is nothing conservative about hatingyour own race, you cucks

>>74231087
She doesn't understand the difference between neoliberals and nationalist reactionaries.

t. American on vacation here
Do right wing politicians in Europe have any stands on issues outside of immigration, it seems like that's all they really care about

>>74231418
immigration is the most important issue

>>74231196
>alt-right
there's that word again

>>74231470
Not poverty, education, and the economy?

>>74231667
They're all related. If you take in a fuckton of niggers, they'll be unemployed and poor, do really badly in school and ruin the economy.

>>74231667
The US has tremendous racial tensions more than pretty much any other country, seems like the melting pot experiment isn't working out.

Naturally immigration is one of the most important subjects.

>>74231667
assuming how you SJWs want to give "refugees" everything at the expense of the natives, yeah.

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>>74231704
>invade and destroy random 3rd world nations
>they immigrate to your nation
>"damn immigrants taking my wh*te wimmens"

>>74231790
A lot of the racial tension is artificial though, from what I understand. For example if they stopped touting that all races are equal, they'd have less issues there.

Niggers are dumber and perform poorly because they're dumber, not because the white man is keeping them down.

>>74231822
What's wrong with destroying random 3rd world nations if they only breed criminals and terrorists? And why the hell should we let them in?

>>74231548
But they actually call themselves that

>>74231790
>The US has tremendous racial tensions more than pretty much any other country,

Are you retarded? There are countries with active genocides and legally enforced discrimination against gypsies/Muslims. The US barely registers on the scale overall.

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>>74231822
>this is what leftists actually believe

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>>74231897
t.raceriot every other week

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>>74231874
>this is what /pol/ actually believes

>be Africa/India
>prosperous empires and kangs
>make so many shekels that it makes wh*tey jelous
>europoors invade you for your shekels
>suddenly the dark ages end in europoor due to the influx of kang monies
>europoors use those monies to destroy even more nations
>start several world wars
>kill millions of people
>invent nigger culture
>invent criminal/gangsters
>invent homofaggotry
>europoors parasites have sucked dry all their hosts
>europoors are collapsing
>wh*tey blames you for everything

>>74231948
Didn't know Sweden also had Faux News. Is that what the media tells you is happening? That the ebil blacks are killing whites en masse?

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>>74231913
>he thinks I'm a liberal leftists

>>74231994
Are you memeing or what the tits is this about?

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>>74231790
>seems like the melting pot experiment isn't working out
It went alright when the peoples we were adding to the common stock were compatible and of average intelligence.

>>74231897
Yep, everything's just fine here.

>>74231822
No one mentioned Donald Trump though. Also that "meme" is far too long.

>>74231897
>>74231994
>>74232034
Okay this is trying too hard. Here's some (you)'s but this is desperate now.

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>>74231994
>europeans invented nigger culture

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>>74232045
The reason there is immigration and poverty is because you wh*teys destroy other countries, and when your done with their nations you go back to destroying each other.

Terrorism would not exist if wh*tey never attacked the Middle East for oil. Immigration wouldn't be a problem if wh*tey didn't kill Gaddafi.

What's wrong with Achmed from Somalia having sex with all the whIte women? Wh*te penises are small. Why the hell should they not have sex with wh*te wimmens?

>>74232137
Right, you're trolling. Gotcha.

>>74232087
Nigger culture is something that originated from white nations. You don't see rap music/pop culture in Africa do you? Where did it all start with the "muh pussy money bitches" in white nations.

>>74232076
I didn't say there was no problems, but /pol/ massively blows things out of proportion like every single day is the LA race riots, completely ignoring the fact that the overwhelming majority of black folks contribute substantially to society and are only held back due to cultural barriers to our success that have been ingrained in us for generations.

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>>74232079
It's a picture.

>be wh*te
>the niggers of the world
>destroy hundreds of countries for colonalism
>cry like faggots when you get colonized back

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>>74232011
quite the opposite

>>74232184
All shitty slum cultures are shitty slum cultures

>>74232228
It's not colonisation when dumb leaders are letting them in voluntarily.

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>>74232177
>we should get to destroy other peoples countries but it's wrong if they destroy ours
>mongol intelligence
Just kill wh*tey already

>>74232011
>Didn't know Sweden also had Faux News. Is that what the media tells you is happening? That the ebil blacks are killing whites en masse?
why is this leftypol cuck defending niggers?

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>>74232270
Then that's even more legal. They are legally coming in whereas wh*tey illegally invaded other nations.

>be some wh*te NEET who doesn't even contribute to society
>complains about law abiding non-white hardworking taxpaying immigrants
>>>/pol/

>>74232272
Yes, it is wrong when they destroy ours. But what makes it really annoying is the fact that the political leaders of europe are the ones doing it to us, not the dumb shitskins.

>>74232332
If they weren't ugly, smelly, dumb and prone to violence and crime there wouldn't be anything wrong with them.

>>74231087
we don't gives a shit about what do you think fucking anglos.

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>>74232334
>this is what wh*te """""people"""" actually believe
So you're just some wh*tey savage. This is why I support the genocide of wh*teys. This is Allah's divine punishment on you beta cucks.

It's rightful judgement on the crimes of wh*tey. More and more non-whites should immigrate to e*r*p* to participate in the extinction of wh*tey cucks

>>74232329
>Waaaaaaaahhhhh! I can't kill blacks en masse based on my primitive fear of being replaced by people who look slightly different than me!

>How dare someone defend these savages who were walking down the street, unarmed, minding their own business!

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>>74232185
>are only held back due to cultural barriers
I know it's comforting to imagine that your failures are due to a vast invisible conspiracy rather than personal incompetence, but it's just not true. Maybe in 1943 you could whine about systemic racism, but in 2017 blacks are objectively the most privileged ethnic group in all of Western society. Elite universities, the media, the government, the justice and welfare system, thousands of non-profits, and virtually every cultural and social institution on the planet openly discriminate in favor of blacks to advance black success. Being born black is living life on easy mode, where every complaint you have gets a headline story and every failure in life is written off as somebody else's fault. If you're black and not successful then somewhere along the way you fucked up HARD, because literally all of society is working collectively to prop you up.

>>74232415
t. we dindu nuffin

i keep forgetting that my fellow posters are also non-whites

>>74232415
You're trying too hard. Go to bed.

>>74232332
you aware "colonization" and "invasion" are pretty much the same thing and were performed by every peoples in the world?
don't worry Tyrone, even your nigger ancestries did it.

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>>74232394
>>74232394
But wh*te people will never be beautiful, smell nice, intelligent or civilized. So their whole existence will always be wrong.

>>74232427
>this is the logic of a cuckold
fascinating

>>74232452
>facts
>reason
>hurr durr your trolling we wh*teys da best

>>74232487
Nice projection. How many gigs of cuck porn are you going to spam at me to try and prove your point?

>people are actually getting b8ed by this guy

>>74232522
I don't know why I'm responding to you at this point.

>>74232536
>the leftists wants to brag about how much cuck porn he has
amazing

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>>74232475
I don't remember anyone else but wh*tes destroying the whole world with several world wars, wars for oil, colonalization on a global scale, destruction of the enviroment, several dozen genocides on 6 continents. And now on the verge of a nuclear world war.

>>74231087
American conservatism is just about being a libertarian autist. They have no historical context of the long history of political struggle in Europe and don't understand the reactionary European ideology being based on the times of monarchy.

>>74231897
Why are burgers so fucking stupid and solipsistic?

FUCK DRUMPF AND FUCK WH*TE "PEOPLE"

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>>74232571
>>>/pol/ desu

>>74232627
It's literally 1 guy

>>74232604
yes Whiteys, (((Whites))), Gooks and Mudslimes.
so everyones else except niggers :^)

>>74232744
What are you sperging about. wh*teys as in e*ros(Russia not included since they are honorary non-wh*tes)

>>74232700
He appears to be an extreme-NEET

>>74231237
This.

>>74231822
but thats what america does
the difference is that they are too far away to take the refuges

>>74232965
We take Mexicans and Latin American refugees. However this is mostly the fault of Britain and France for the Sykes-Picot

>>74231087
Americans are the biggest classcucks on this planet (with the Alt and Far right being worst offenders) so if see anything that is remotely socialist or anything that is restrictive to the free market they will go full autistic screeching over it.

Because of that the American far/alt-right will see Le-Pen as "too irredeemably socialist" for their liking (this applies to Winnie as well)

>>74232228
Yeah it was so terrible how we made Amerindians wear pants and stop cutting the hearts out of living people.

>>74231087
>Americans, what did she mean by this?

That she's a dumbass who truly believes she has a say in this World or how it's ran. Same as all of you idiots.

>>74233120
>>74233120
>this is what he actually believes
>instead they now get cucked by tyrone and have racemixed with all the imported slaves
How terrible that the Muslims want wh*tey to stop being beta cucks and mentally ill faggots and put on some clothes instead of being (((cultural marxists)))

>>74233107
>he sees a random post from someone from a country with over 300M citizens
>hurr durr ALL MURRICANS ARE DUMBASSES! SEE! LOOK! SEE! LOOK! SEE!

Could repeat for 2000 characters and you'd still be a dumbass. Stay obsessed and retarded.

>>74233107
This kiwi is a notorious anti-white leftist and admitted Pajeet diaspora. Please do not feed it.

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>>74233217
He's right though.

>>74233274
Congrats you just took the bait

Then again i'm guessing that you are a nigger by the name of Tyrone so i'm not surprised by this

>>74231160
At wich point she is racist? i liver here and it's totally new to me? what sort of racist thing did she do?

>>74231087
Americans don't know they cant vote in other countries

>>74233275
You dumbasses will never realize. It's not about giving Americans universal healthcare, it's about giving niggers and others this freeies which is already more than they deserve at all.

What? You think if we get freebies, the niggers won't be included? LOL niggers make up so much of our hospital bills and those to come.

You think anyone wants to pay for 1,000,000 heart attacks, etc right off the bat if such retardation were to be put in place?

Sure, we fucked ourselves freeing niggers, but what's done is done, we have to stop it as much as we can. The last stop to this is healthcare and other government freebies, if we let this go, the entire country goes.

You really think Pajeet and his crew want to work for minimum wage taking care of mostly niggers when they worked their asses off at American universities only to be told they're literally going to be spending their careers caring for even more sub-humans?

Our country is fucked, realize that. All we can do is keep the bonefire from spreading. Realize this. You have no fucking control.

>>74231087
Why is this a bad thing?

Corporations do whatever the fuck they want, at least nationalizing critical industries means you, the people, can have some say over how shit is operated.

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>>74233633
>>>>/pol/

>>74233633
Maybe Pajeet shouldn't have come to your country if his only goal was raking in cash to send back to his family in India, you don't realise how capitalism actually creates more immigration. Big companies love Pajeet because he's overqualified for the job they're offering him, but he is more than likely to accept it though.

Black people never had a chance to begin with, they were slaves for fuck sake, uneducated monkeys who never did anything but pick cotton, did americans really think they would find a place in society or did they just not care at all? Shifting the blame on them is just ignorant. They should've been giving money to educated themself or start a business back in the days, it's too late now to fix black crime rates.

>>74233633
>You dumbasses will never realize. It's not about giving Americans universal healthcare, it's about giving niggers and others this freeies which is already more than they deserve at all.
this is textbook narcissism. You'd rather not have something you can easily afford that provides healthcare to everyone, just because you don't think everyone "deserves" it. You don't deserve shit.
>Sure, we fucked ourselves freeing niggers
thanks for letting me know you're a helpless waste of space so you don't also become a waste of my time.

>>74233977
Niggers are dumber than whites. It isn't as simple as saying "get them an education" when they can't get passing grades.

>>74234036
stop falling for his bait pls

>>74234036
>you don't deserve shit
there's your answer to your own question

>>74233956
>this is the pinnacle of SJW debating skills
pathetic

>>74234036
>thanks for letting me know you're a helpless waste of space so you don't also become a waste of my time.
your a sack of shit for worshiping niggers

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>>74233977
>>74234036
I have a man from a country which bred whores to fuck our troops during WW2 and a half niggers from a former slave port telling me about how my own country works?

I shit out all of you.

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>>74234160
>not wanting to enslave blacks is nigger worship

>>74231790
Lmao we just put our racial tensions out in the open unlike other countries that try and subvert it's existence with dystopia laws.

Obviously we have disagreements, but because we're allowed to vent our frustrations, we can eventually better understand each other. The rest of the world just tries to sweep their racial tensions under the rug.

>>74234051
>isn't as simple as saying "get them an education" when they can't get passing grades
they can't get passing grades without proper education for generations, Mr. white Zhang. They've only recently started to be treated like humans, and African countries are STILL being exploited, and even former colonies which are in the shitter like Haiti are still getting fucked over.
>>74234110
he doesn't deserve shit but I'd pay for his healthcare for the sake of everyone, because I'm not a dumb selfish cunt.
>>74234160
so actually reading history and seeing the root issues instead of shouting "dumb niggers lol" is worshipping them.Fuck off
>>74234169
>I have a man from a country which bred whores to fuck our troops during WW2
We went to war with you, you complete retard
>a half niggers from a former slave port telling me about how my own country works?
Yes. You should feel ashamed that a person from your own colony (did you even know we're your colony?) is less ignorant than you are.

>>74234132
>debating
>SJW
I don't have such ambitions :s

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>>74234132
>muh SJW boogeyman
>implying he wants to waste his time debating with an asinine cunt on an anonymous imageboard

>>74234286
Bruh you niggas literally go all "RACEWAR KILL ALL WHITIES NOW" over a black criminal getting killed by police.

Racial tensions in the US are NOT okay

>>74234262
you leftists want to give everything to niggers, you want to their slaves
>>74234300
you didn't read shit, you cuck faggot

>>74234300
>they can't get passing grades without proper education for generations, Mr. white Zhang. They've only recently started to be treated like humans, and African countries are STILL being exploited, and even former colonies which are in the shitter like Haiti are still getting fucked over.
No, they can't get passing grades because they're dumb, not because they don't have an education. Although not having an education because they're too dumb to pay attention in school and instead prefer gang culture does contribute.

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>>74234051
They don't have to be heart surgeons, they could be blue collar workers instead.

Detroit used to be heart of the car industry, many blacks were blue collar workers before those jobs got exported to low cost countries, the remaining blue collar jobs are worked by pathetic mexicans who would even sell their mother for a few dollars.

But of course it's the fault of the niggers, big corporations are completely guilt free and there is nothing wrong with capitalism and globalism.

I wish socialism wasn't fucking dead and buried, all you have now is dumb upper middle-class students chanting about race, gender and gay shit, while the heart of the problem has always been social class.

>>74234348
>being a nazis is bad
>but being a black supremacist is fine
this SJW right here is following the party line

>>74234366
I love this Patty acting like he knows things about American politics

>>74234300
>We went to war with you, you complete retard
I'm talking about the Netherlands you idiot. You didn't do shit but be a colony we won in an ass kicking contest, you're a half-nigger, always will be. See how quick you are to come to assumptions. Dumbass nigger.
>Yes. You should feel ashamed that a person from your own colony (did you even know we're your colony?) is less ignorant than you are.
You were literally WON. We didn't want you, we saw you as a prize. If we wanted you and the rest of the Carribbean. WE WOULD HAVE FUCKING TAKEN YOU HUNDREDS OF YEARS AGO. YOU STUPID FUCK.

>>74234406
I'm not saying that race is the only factor, but it is a big factor nontheless.

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>>74234406
according to you ""people"" the working class is a racist institution

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>>74234408
Do you really have black supremacists in Ireland?

>>74234446
Why do you keep putting words into peoples mouths? Perhaps because you can't actually argue anything?

>>74234464
you leftists all want the same thing, I know what you ""people"" really want

>>74234456
I think they do, but they're just called Irish.

>>74234353
>>74234353
>Bruh you niggas
that's like saying "bruh you ckrackas all shoot up schools". Stupid generalization
>black criminal getting killed by police
ah yes, the evil the unarmed, nonthreatening criminal. Don't get me wrong, they're not fucking saints; some of them really are criminals. But you're right, it is a US problem. Notice how this is only really a problem in the US. It's a classist and police brutality thing more than a race issue

>>74234492

Please enlighten us Seamus, it's not like there are different types of leftism... oh wait...

>>74234508
class isn't an issue, race is

>>74234446
>the juden beast

>>74234437

And /pol/ says leftists get triggered.

>>74234544
tell me why antifa is funded by liberals and the top 0.1%

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>>74234548

>being this much of a class cuck

>>74234353
And has a race war happened yet? No. Americans are hyperbolic about everything.

Meanwhile Sweden has a literal grenade epidemic right now and France has had an insane number of terror attacks because just mentioning the word Muslim puts you in jail.

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>>74234492
>>74234492
>all leftists are like (Je)Western leftists
In a traditional socialist nations, degenerates, cucks, homos, sexual deviants, drug addicts, whores, sluts adulterers, fat people, lazy people, beta males, those who believe beta cuck ideologies that promote weakness instead of strength and, subhumans would be sent to the labor camps to work or be exterminated.

>2017
>still can't distinguish the difference between the political left and right and the economical left and right

>>74234599
Europe is simply experiencing that because they were too stupid to understand the consequences of invading another nation for it's oil. France killed Gaddafi and now they are being attacked? Is that a surprise?

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>>74234633
>2017
>believing in the left/right dichotomy

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>>74234595
class is literally a non-issue, on the other hand you leftists literally want to murder white people

>>74234408
>being black supremacist is fine
yeah show me that quote in my post where I'm saying kill whitey, mentioning Malcolm X or idolizing Black Panthers. I'll wait.
>>74234437
sorry for not paying enough attention to your abhorrent post.
>You didn't do shit but be a colony we won in an ass kicking contest, you're a half-nigger, always will be. See how quick you are to come to assumptions. Dumbass nigger
t. a fucking american, king of making assumptions, generalizations jumping to conclusions
>You were literally WON. We didn't want you, we saw you as a prize.
ah yes, tell me more about how you were there in 1898 and didn't capture us for our geographical and naval value. Retarded cunt. Yes I bet your government still owns us, with $70 billion in debt and all, because we're a trophy, not because youR jews use us as a tax haven and we give you $68 billion annually.
>all caps
stay asshurt dumb burger

>>74234286
>>74231790

What leaf is forgetting is that the US has handled assimilation for all of its history and we've kept our problems under control. It's been worse before.

Europe gets less immigrants then us and starts chimping out kek. I'm not sure what'll happen to Western Europe but us burgers pretending like this is anything new proves our stupidity.

>>74234572
Not even white, by your assumptions, I can't even be a /pol/tard, you dumb degenerate Brit castaway fuck.

>>74234682
>yeah show me that quote in my post where I'm saying kill whitey, mentioning Malcolm X or idolizing Black Panthers. I'll wait.
you were literally defending cop killers earlier, you rat

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>>74234606

>nazis
>socialist

https://realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2013/09/16/hitlers-finances-and-the-myth-of-nazi-anti-usury-activism/

American """"education""""

>>74234679
Nothing wrong with killing wh*tey

>>74234508
Id say it's more of a culture issue. The whole "fuk u whiteboi fuck the police" thing only exists in the US tbqh

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>>74234715
>wordpress blogs

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>>74234679

>you leftists want murder white people
>this is what far right wingers actually believe

>>74234682
>t. a fucking american, king of making assumptions, generalizations jumping to conclusions
You're clearly a half-nigger. Don't play the "I'm a white American from New England" bullshit with me Carlito.
>ah yes, tell me more about how you were there in 1898 and didn't capture us for our geographical and naval value. Retarded cunt. Yes I bet your government still owns us, with $70 billion in debt and all, because we're a trophy, not because youR jews use us as a tax haven and we give you $68 billion annually.
We don't owe you shit. If anything, at this point, you owe US. Without our bases you'd be swallowed up whole you ungrateful nigger.

>>74234652
They needed it t b h.

Fucking Sweden can't handle a few fucking Somalis without rampant grenade attacks and creating no-go zones while the Texas panhandle takes in a higher % of Somalis, and effectively isolates them, and life goes on just fine for everyone else.

Europe unironically needs diversity because they're sheltered faggot bitches.

>>74234712
He's a confused fuck like he is genetically. Exactly why I'll never trust any Caribbean scum. Born rats for the trade, both slave and tourists. They don't realize this.

>>74234768
>this is what far right wingers actually believe
and we're right about everything we believe
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/16/black-lives-matter-cashes-100-million-liberal-foun/

>>74231087
>give a shitload of tax payer money to JP morgan and Goldman Sachs
>Doesn't even take an equity stake in exchange
>lol guyz we totally saved capitalism now those bankers can make more profits than ever on interest we pay thanks to us
>god bless usa! free market yeah XDDD

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>>74234749

>az quote

The nazis were socialist in name as the "Holy Roman Empire" was a Holy Roman Empire

>>74234841
The worst part is that the Amerifucks only think they're two options - Communism and Capitalism. They don't realise there's a third option, one that you never hear on the media.

>>74234682
>sorry for not paying enough attention to your abhorrent post.
clearly said you were a dumbass for assuming the multi-post was entirely directed towards yourself.

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>>74234833
This is known as schizophrenia, signs include thinking people are after you and are trying to harm you.

>>74234833

>liberals are leftists

Oh my

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>>7423463
I'd imagine a national capitalist would advocate for having his own people make jeans in some cramped sweatshop locally instead of exporting it to bangladesh?

You like capitalism because it isn't you who is getting abused by these greedy jewish corporations, you merely are a pawn who is there to buy their shit.

>>74234548
yes it is.
>>74234575
yes mr.
>>74234712
>you were literally defending cop killers earlier
yeah? Why can't you quote it then? Right, because I fucking did it you lying cunt. I emphasized that they aren't all saints, but many are in fact innocent.
>>74234769
>You're clearly a half-nigger. Don't play the "I'm a white American from New England" bullshit with me Carlito
When did I ever imply I'm an American?
>burger reading comprehension
or are you that new?
>We don't owe you shit. If anything, at this point, you owe US. Without our bases you'd be swallowed up whole you ungrateful nigger.
your vulture hedgefunds and corrupt jews already made our country barely inhabitable. I don't owe you shit. All I owe you is my sweet latino semen, and don't worry I will spread it in your country as much as I can. I am an American Citizen after all.

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>>74231897

>The US barely registers on the scale overall.

Seriously?

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>>74234871
Your confusing Western liberal socialism for Eastern Socialism. In the 3rd Reich, socialism meant doing what was best for society. Socialism isn't communism so there is a free market as long as they aren't negatively impacting society like Jewish banks. Nor does only capitalism allow a free market.

Don't confuse the National Socialist party with the libcuck pro faggot/LGBT/queer "socialists"/edgy yuppie communists

>>74234883
>calls others cucks
>wants a massive soviet style government
>wants to be attacked for being a white male to make up for his "oppression"
leftists are the definition of cucks
>>74234898
there is no left political spectrum, your all controlled by the top 1%

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>>74234967
I'm not wh*te. wh*tey needs to be punished for his crimes against humanity.
>>>/pol/

>>74234915
>When did I ever imply I'm an American?
The second you started bitching about everything like a nigger
>>burger reading comprehension
You actually went that low and pathetic? You aren't a yuropoor. You don't get to say such things, which we will then throw in your face like the nigger you are. You don't get shit but this reply. You really don't get how low on the chain you are? Not just to Americans, but the entire World? You're literally a cheap vacation spot. NOTHING MORE. KILL YOURSELF (in all caps, just for you sweet pea)

>>74231790

Why doesn't Canada have ANY tangible issues with minorities? We have 2 major cities that are less than half white and literally NOTHING ever happens save for the occasional BLM angry protest that never goes further than the campus of the shithole uni is spawned from.

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>>74232185

>completely ignoring the fact that the overwhelming majority of black folks contribute substantially to society and are only held back due to cultural barriers to our success that have been ingrained in us for generations.

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Fuck banks. A good bank is a dead bank.

>>74235018
>this is what white guilt cucks actually believe
you people are fucking pathetic

>>74235014
Different culture desu? Id say it's also pretty bad in Canada but with natural segregation over literal violence.

>>74234841
>JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs actually pay taxes
>Get bailed out while lazy minimum wage retards who have complete tax exceptions complain that they aren't given free equity stakes

Societal leeches are lucky that their votes are worth just as much as a real taxpayer.

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>>74235045
He's right
Brooks‐Gunn, J., Klebanov, P. K., & Duncan, G. J. (1996). Ethnic differences in children's intelligence test scores: Role of economic deprivation, home environment, and maternal characteristics. Child development, 67(2), 396-408.

>>74235077
>1996
why does that matter if crime stats from the same time apparently don't?

>>74235077
The difference isn't entirely by environment or genetics. There's a reason why poor whites get higher SAT scores than wealthy blacks though, there is a racial factor.

>>74235072
I didn´t know about economic cuckoldry until now.

>>74235118
This is a controlled scientific study comparing children under different factors. There are virtually little to no differences between negros and whites when accounting for these. These also aren't crime stats, their IQ and success stats.

>>74235045
Our society has been groomed into believing that anything against pop-culture, is negative, thus, racist, thus, wrong.

You have no idea how fucked we are.

It's not even us losing power, it's what in the fuck is the World going to do once all the sub-humans have inherited Earth? I don't care which Western Society takes hold, just fucking hell, please start a fucking genocide.

>>74235129
Any sources for this meme? Modern studies state otherwise.

>>74235147
>my private study trying to prove my SJW shit is right
>but crime stats are always wrong
you SJW damage control is pathetic

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>>74235014

You guys have a small fraction of the minorities the US has and don't have nearly the number of historical grievances.

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>>74235129
Why do hispanics in Texas test much higher than hispanics in Commiefornia though?

Because gibmedats are cancer.

>>74235045

>you people

Was quoting the other guy you mong

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>>74235166
>meme
>modern studies
Is a 20 year old study discrediting all genetic factors not a non modern meme study?

>>74235129
Blacks are perpetually butthurt over slavery and segregation, and are encouraged to be as vengeful as possible by race baitors like Al Sharpton for money or white liberals for political advantages.

>>74231087
le pen and her party are zionist

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>>74235166

http://www.cshe.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/shared/publications/docs/ROPS.CSHE_.10.15.Geiser.RaceSAT.10.26.2015.pdf

tl;dr race is the strongest predictor of SAT scores, more than any other factor including wealth.

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>>74235196
>my /pol/ screenshots supercede actual peer reviewed scientific studies
This is from The Journal of Child Development which explains the reasons for these crime rates
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8625720

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>>74235200
>mfw when a Cancuck or Ausshit complained about having Asians as the biggest minority

>>74235261
>disregarding genetic factors
It accounted for genetics, there virtually was no difference.

Meanwhile your pic had zero sources, not to mention all those SAT scores are literally inbred tier.

>>74235312
what screenshots did it post?

Why are you denying that niggers commit more crime?

>>74231237
I'm pete

>>74235209
Because we're Tejanos, not Mexicano nor Chicano scum.

We're white descendants from Mexico's oldest ancestors who got caught up in a border battle and decided to choose the obvious better side.

We chose logic over emotions. Something no sub-human Mestizo nor nigger will ever comprehend.

Now, those who come over from Mexico see us as "white" and thus "the enemy". If by "enemy" you mean we're actually American and not confused scum like you? Abso-fucking-lutely.

Fought for this country which gave my family a home, we will fight for it.

>>74235353
>screenshots
>this is what consists of a source at /pol/

I posted the whole study
>Brooks‐Gunn, J., Klebanov, P. K., & Duncan, G. J. (1996). Ethnic differences in children's intelligence test scores: Role of economic deprivation, home environment, and maternal characteristics. Child development, 67(2), 396-408.

As well as a screen shot from it's conclusion >>74235077

>>74234728
because when you live in a country that still has people waving confederate flags and deliberately using the word nigger, racial tensions remain. And where there is class divide, there is crime culture
>>74235003
is that your way of admitting you're a retard and that I never implied I was an am*rican?
>You actually went that low and pathetic? You aren't a yuropoor. You don't get to say such things, which we will then throw in your face like the nigger you are. You don't get shit but this reply. You really don't get how low on the chain you are? Not just to Americans, but the entire World? You're literally a cheap vacation spot. NOTHING MORE. KILL YOURSELF
I bet that sounded really cool in your head, but really you sound like a fat manlet who cries when he gets angry. Isn't it funny that "one of the lowest in the chain" has better reading comprehension than you do, with all the resources you have? mm, maybe that chain isn't that real after all.

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>>74233107
>it's another a kiwi thinks he knows everything episode

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsCFCh5JpoE

>>74235454
the poster to whom you're replying has literally admitted to being 17

>>74235385
Why are you denying crime stats, but trust your flawed study?

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What did she mean by this?

>https://twitter.com/BMacronOff/status/858369132772904962

OP's post could be a clever post

>>74235428
>bet that sounded really cool in your head, but really you sound like a fat manlet who cries when he gets angry. Isn't it funny that "one of the lowest in the chain" has better reading comprehension than you do, with all the resources you have? mm, maybe that chain isn't that real after all.
>im playing shadow games, i'm this i'm that, i'm going to type the voices in my head and make it seem witty, i won! yay!

You didn't win shit, barricua scum half nigger faggot

Take another 20 minutes to think of a retort. I'm sure your nigger brain cells are all fucked. So take your time. I won't be here. it's dinner time here on non-half-nigger hours. Later.

>>74235311
>>74235311
You know this is saying that SAT scores differ due to blacks being more poor while whites being more richer.

---------------------------
The last 20 years have seen an extraordinary volume of research on the black-white “test score gap” beginning with Jencks and
Phillips’ The Black-White Test Score Gap in 1998 and Magnuson and Waldfogel’s Steady Gains and Stalled Progress in 2008,
among many others. Yet that research has produced no consensus about the underlying factors. Explanations that appeal to
genetic differences cannot explain why the black-white gap narrowed significantly in the 1970s and 80s (Neal, 2006).
Explanations that appeal to differences in income or SES cannot account for the large residual disparity that remains after
controlling for those factors (Phillips, et al, 1998; Magnuson, Rosenbaum & Waldfogel, 2008). And explanations that emphasize
the role of the schools founder on the fact that the test score gap appears before children enter school and persists even when
black students attend the same schools as whites (Phillips, Crouse, & Ralph, 1998; Jencks and Phillips, 1998). “What explains
these achievement gaps? It should come as no surprise that the issue has defied simple explanation” (Magnuson and Waldfogel,
2008, p.1).

>citing studies you haven't even read
Also it goes full SJW in the end talking about how UC needs more affirmative action because of this, ironically you didn't even read and thought it was some pro-rightwing study

>>74235348
See>>74235311
Also the scores are out of 1600 you dumb nigger

>>74235492
What crime statistics? pol pictures and collages of cherry picked graphs is not evidence. This study is from Columbia University(literally Ivy League) and is peer reviewed by a board of scientists and psychologists and published in a very respected Journal of Child Development.

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I think it's hilarious when non-Americans pretend like they can understand anything about the racial tensions in the US when they live in countries that are 90% one race just because they watch our media.

Fucking plebs lmao.

>>74235583
So your LITERALLY denying reality, you SJWs are pathetic

>>74235583
Fbi crime statistics for murder and shit are ridiculous for blacks, for one.

If all blacks suddenly left America... (keep in mind blacks only make 13% of the US population)

The prison population would go down by 37%

There would be almost 50% less gang members

Rape would go down significantly

Overweight and obesity percentage would go down by 10%

Average IQ would go up 7 points, putting the USA tied for third with Japan

SAT scores would go up by about 100 points

ACT scores would go up by 5.5 points

AIDS and HIV would go down by over 67%

Chlamydia cases would go down by 50%

Gonorrhea would go down by 69%

Syphilis would go would go down by 58%

The average income would be over 20k more per year

The amount of people in poverty would go down by over 30%

Homelessness would go down by 57%

And the number of welfare recipients would go down by about 40%

It just shows you how much of a better life we would all have without them

Sources: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States

www.bop.gov/news/quick.jsp#1

kff.org/other/state-indicator/adult-overweightobesity-rate-by-re/

www.nytimes.com/books/first/j/jencks-gap.html

www.amfirstbooks.com/IntroPages/NonToolbarTopics/IdeologicalQuiz/Quiz-3-Commentary/IdeolQuiz_Answer_02.html

aids.gov/hiv-aids-basics/hiv-aids-101/statistics/

www.cdc.gov/std/stats11/gonorrhea.htm

www.cdc.gov/std/stats11/syphilis.htm

www.cdc.gov/std/stats11/chlamydia.htm

www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0697.pdf

kff.org/other/state-indicator/poverty-rate-by-raceethnicity/

homeless.samhsa.gov/ResourceFiles/hrc_factsheet.pdf

www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/

www.nationalgangcenter.gov/survey-analysis/demographics

nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=171

nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d10/tables/dt10_155.asp

Anthony Walsh (January 2004). Race and crime: a biosocial analysis. Nova Publishers. pp. 23–24. ISBN 978-1-59033-970-1. Retrieved 1 October 2011.

>>74235610
Pro-tip: They do. They're just confused still.

>>74231160
this post reeks of underage

>>74235546
Even here it says that being in the same income range and going to the same school is not even enough for black students yet you still claim that it's a factor.

Their only proof in saying that it's not a genetic factor is by saying since the gap narrowed that means it can't be genetic which is illogical.

Meanwhile they have absolutely proven in this study that socio-economic factors cannot explain the gap.

They have actual statistical data to disprove socio economic factors while they discredit genetic effects by using wishful thinking

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>>74232184
I wonder how black people would be like if they never met whitey.

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>>74235617
What reality? I posted actual studies looking into these subjects and they disproved your /pol/ memes. Here's a tip, REAL LIFE is not 4chan memes.

>everyone I don't like is an SJW
Kek

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>>74235621
B*n really went downhill, he's an actual racist now

>>74231470
lmao

>>74235610
joke's on you because new zealand is 69% white

>>74235678
If all blacks suddenly left America... (keep in mind blacks only make 13% of the US population)

The prison population would go down by 37%

There would be almost 50% less gang members

Rape would go down significantly

Overweight and obesity percentage would go down by 10%

Average IQ would go up 7 points, putting the USA tied for third with Japan

SAT scores would go up by about 100 points

ACT scores would go up by 5.5 points

AIDS and HIV would go down by over 67%

Chlamydia cases would go down by 50%

Gonorrhea would go down by 69%

Syphilis would go would go down by 58%

The average income would be over 20k more per year

The amount of people in poverty would go down by over 30%

Homelessness would go down by 57%

And the number of welfare recipients would go down by about 40%

It just shows you how much of a better life we would all have without them

Sources: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States

www.bop.gov/news/quick.jsp#1

kff.org/other/state-indicator/adult-overweightobesity-rate-by-re/

www.nytimes.com/books/first/j/jencks-gap.html

www.amfirstbooks.com/IntroPages/NonToolbarTopics/IdeologicalQuiz/Quiz-3-Commentary/IdeolQuiz_Answer_02.html

aids.gov/hiv-aids-basics/hiv-aids-101/statistics/

www.cdc.gov/std/stats11/gonorrhea.htm

www.cdc.gov/std/stats11/syphilis.htm

www.cdc.gov/std/stats11/chlamydia.htm

www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0697.pdf

kff.org/other/state-indicator/poverty-rate-by-raceethnicity/

homeless.samhsa.gov/ResourceFiles/hrc_factsheet.pdf

www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/

www.nationalgangcenter.gov/survey-analysis/demographics

nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=171

nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d10/tables/dt10_155.asp

Anthony Walsh (January 2004). Race and crime: a biosocial analysis. Nova Publishers. pp. 23–24. ISBN 978-1-59033-970-1. Retrieved 1 October 2011.

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>>74235678
see >>74235639
Also nice meme, you are sure to defeat the alt-right. Never give up anon!

>>74235621
>you will never get your ass kicked by Marine Le Pen
why live?

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>>74235678
Here's fbi crime stats.

Looks like blackies aren't very good people

>>74235714
Ahaha, what in the hell happened to Vice? Jesus Christ

>>74232334
Uh no. Syrians and Somalis choose to move to Sweden.

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>>74235678
Link:

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-43

>>74235261
What this suggests is that either genetics or culture is a factor, but can be equalized by income

>>74235743
This shows that whites commit more crime than blacks. wtf?

>>74235819
It's a mix of environment and genetics like anything,

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>>74235546

>You know this is saying that SAT scores differ due to blacks being more poor while whites being more richer.

No it's not. The study actually specifically addresses that.

>A key implication of this finding is that racial and ethnic group differences in SAT scores are not simply reducible to differences in
family income and parental education. At least for the UC sample, there remains a large and growing residual effect of
race/ethnicity after those factors are taken into account. Whatever mediating factors may be involved, it appears that their
effects are different and more pronounced for students of color. If true, this conclusion has important implications about the
efficacy of race-neutral policies for redressing racial disparities in college admissions

Nice meta troll though. And if it's not a troll, you ironically didn't read the study, skipped to the 'alternate explanations part' and thought that that was what the author found/argued.

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>>74235639
>this /pol/ copypasta from
>https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/110806852/


>www.nytimes.com/books/first/j/jencks-gap.html
>Anthony Walsh (January 2004). Race and crime: a biosocial analysis. Nova Publishers. pp. 23–24. ISBN 978-1-59033-970-1. Retrieved 1 October 2011.
Literally who? I could not even find this study in my university library and

I googled it and this is the closest I found
https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=vgHgNsmZ3vsC&oi=fnd&pg=PR7&dq=Anthony+Walsh+(January+2004).+Race+and+crime:+a+biosocial+analysis&ots=PD1X9SVLlc&sig=iV0WjmesZwjG25hr2jd9h_bvZEU#v=onepage&q&f=false

Apparently he's a literal who's who nobody. I'm gonna need some actual peer reviewed studies published in criminology or behavioral journals.

>>74235834
Well yeah there's like 4 whites for every 1 black person

>>74235834
Not proportionally, there are 5 times more white Americans than black

>>74235834
Because blacks are only 13% of the population. Ever heard of proportions?

>>74235699
In case you're serious, that's obviously fake.

>>74235743
Didn't I already address this. That poor people commit more crimes. Lmao it's like you /pol/cucks just parrot the same thing over and over again.

Here's tip, people have actually studied the reasons for the higher crime rates of negros, the conclusion is always, they are poor.

Brooks‐Gunn, J., Klebanov, P. K., & Duncan, G. J. (1996). Ethnic differences in children's intelligence test scores: Role of economic deprivation, home environment, and maternal characteristics. Child development, 67(2), 396-408.

>>74235872
>>74235876
>>74235885
Shouldn't that have been part of the table too? Makes sense though.

>>74234946
Look at places like South Africa, Sudan, Myanmar, Ukraine, Russia, Northern Ireland etc if you want to see real ethnic conflict gone array.

>>74235867
>gives multiples sources
>picks out one of them and criticizes it for being real
Retard

>>74233120
>less advanced in various fields than amerindians
>burnt almost every piece of culture left
>genocided north amerindians
>"WE GAVE EM MUH-"
Nope, sweetie. You got from us.

>>74235743
Yes blacks commit more crime than whites but what the fuck are you trying to achieve by constantly shitposting about this? Are you trying to justify your racism or are you just a bot?

>>74235532
>You didn't win shit,
lmao you think this is some sort of game to win, what a pathetic guy

>Take another 20 minutes to think of a retort
holy shit you thought I was still in this thread, refreshing every minute waiting for this all important man's reply, and all the time I wasn't here I was scheming my perfect comeback? who the fuck do you think you are? you don't matter, anon.

>>74235610
don't worry USA its on its way to 69% latino :)
>>74235710
>if a struggling demographic with a history of slavery, institutional oppression, restrictions and lack of access to education left America...
Incredible! Who would have thought?! thanks for the useless input

>>74235919
>gives one questionable source
>complains that his credibility is damaged
White people
>record scratches

>>74233120
>we made Amerindians wear pants
That is a bad thing. They didn't need them.

>>74235915
You keep on posting the same two decade old debunked study when literally everyone else here has contributed and given a newer study that has disproven socio economic factors as explaining the gap. How desperate are you?

>>74235955
Look at the post I'm replying to, it's completely ontopic.

>>74235743
>most poor people are black
>blacks are raised in a more tense environment than any other race
>in a country that encourages and embellishes crime culture
>turns out, poor people can be mentally ill and/or desperate for money, who would have fucking thought
stellar post, please keep the stats coming, I totally wouldn't have known if it weren't for the stats

>>74235857
You didn't read the explanations for it did you?

>Explanations that appeal to
genetic differences cannot explain why the black-white gap narrowed significantly in the 1970s and 80s (Neal, 2006).
It even cites to other studies showing the black-white gap decreasing among youth. You do know how APA citations work. Everything with a (Name, Year) is a scientific citation to another study to back up that sentence with scientific evidence.


>All data sources indicate that black–white skill gaps diminished over most of the 20th century, but black–white skill gaps as measured by test scores among youth and educational attainment among young adults have remained constant or increased in absolute value since the late 1980s. I examine the potential importance of discrimination against skilled black workers, changes in black family structures, changes in black household incomes, black–white differences in parenting norms, and education policy as factors that may contribute to the recent stability of black–white skill gaps. Absent changes in public policy or the economy that facilitate investment in black children, best case scenarios suggest that even approximate black–white skill parity is not possible before 2050, and equally plausible scenarios imply that the black–white skill gap will remain quite significant throughout the 21st century.

>Neal, D. (2006). Why has black–white skill convergence stopped?. Handbook of the Economics of Education, 1, 511-576.

Nowhere did they use wishful thinking, you are literally a fucking retard and probably never have been to a university so you can't read a paper in this format.

>>74236026
>>in a country that encourages and embellishes crime culture
Except White Americans have the same homicide rate as Belgium

>>74235662
>he hasn't even read the whole paper

>Yet that research has produced no consensus about the underlying factors. Explanations that appeal to
genetic differences cannot explain why the black-white gap narrowed significantly in the 1970s and 80s (Neal, 2006).
Explanations that appeal to differences in income or SES cannot account for the large residual disparity that remains after
controlling for those factors (Phillips, et al, 1998; Magnuson, Rosenbaum & Waldfogel, 2008). And explanations that emphasize
the role of the schools founder on the fact that the test score gap appears before children enter school and persists even when
black students attend the same schools as whites (Phillips, Crouse, & Ralph, 1998; Jencks and Phillips, 1998). “What explains
these achievement gaps? It should come as no surprise that the issue has defied simple explanation” (Magnuson and Waldfogel,
2008, p.1).

Since you can't read heres(Neal, 2006)


>All data sources indicate that black–white skill gaps diminished over most of the 20th century, but black–white skill gaps as measured by test scores among youth and educational attainment among young adults have remained constant or increased in absolute value since the late 1980s. I examine the potential importance of discrimination against skilled black workers, changes in black family structures, changes in black household incomes, black–white differences in parenting norms, and education policy as factors that may contribute to the recent stability of black–white skill gaps. Absent changes in public policy or the economy that facilitate investment in black children, best case scenarios suggest that even approximate black–white skill parity is not possible before 2050, and equally plausible scenarios imply that the black–white skill gap will remain quite significant throughout the 21st century.
>Neal, D. (2006). Why has black–white skill convergence stopped?. Handbook of the Economics of Education, 1, 511-576.

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>>74236026

>most poor people are black

That's wrong you fucking mongoloid.

>>74236070
... so? what the fuck is your point?

>>74235710
>copy and pasting from /pol/
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/110806852/

>the sources do not even say that
Please show me where in the that Wikipedia article it states any of that?

>>74236099
most black people are poor*. That's better

>>74235919
>multiple questionable sources
>sources that do not even state any of that
This is copy and pasted from /pol/, kek
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/110806852/

It's trash desu. But plz show me where in that wiki article it states any of that.

>>74236103
That you're excusing blacks being 20x more violent with >I-it's due to poverty! When that's clearly not the case.

You're also wrong, more poor people are white.

>>74235978
>debunked study
Can you show me where it is debunked? When studies are flawed the authors of that study retract it and state it is outdated. You have literally given no studies on this subject.

Here's one from 2006
Neal, D. (2006). Why has black–white skill convergence stopped?. Handbook of the Economics of Education, 1, 511-576.

Which states how the gap between white and black has shrunk.

Protip cletus you fucking retard, this is called APA format, which makes it easier to search up, it includes the author, date, the title, the book/journal and the page of that study. You copy and paste it onto Google Scholar or your university library and you can read it.

>>74236109
>>74236136
>>74236185

>the anti white SJW is still butthurt after getting btfo
All the sources you posted were 29 yr old debunked trash

>>74236144
>When that's clearly not the case
except it is. Well, it's actually more than that. Poverty and past generations being enslaved/segregated, having nothing but bad habits to pass down to the generations of today. It's not rocket science.
>You're also wrong, more poor people are white.
I already corrected my sentence.

>>74231087

Putting banks under the control of the government is the worst, and best idea at the same time.

I have a better one. Audit them like Iceland did and throw those fuckers in jail. See, they could do that because nobody depends on their economy. If we decided to audit our banks people would go insane, kill each other, that whole nose dive that's fun but a little played out.

>>74235261
>tfw black and got better scores than all of these
And not because I'm smart, these are some bad fucking scores.

>>74236217
>having nothing but bad habits to pass down to the generations of today.
That's a poor excuse for being a murderous cretin. It's simply due to their shit culture and lax moral values that have developed, like you said, as a result of slavery.

>>74236033
>>74236082
Man, you're pretty fucking dumb but it's okay I deal with people like you a lot.

First off you replied to the wrong person idiot.

As for never going to university I studied Economics and dealt with papers like these all the time in my econometrics classes. To really understand the study we'd have to look at the data they used and the model and all the different statistics it produced but of course you wouldn't know this, you're probably some freshman political science major that takes any accredited study as facts from Gods without understand how they're done or caring for that matter.


I can tell by just reading the abstract that they were searching for a particular result but it's not like that matters, they tell you straight out that they can't explain the gap fully and then they go back to trying to dispel what they created the study for to begin with, that it's not due to genetics by claiming that because the gap has shrunk it must mean it can't be genetic when it reality all it means is that it's not completely genetic as I said before.

I wish I still had my old projects because I created models about his exact subject, with twin studies involving adopted whites and blacks where differences couldn't be explained by socio economic factors.

>>74236212
>pointing out bullshit
>proving posts as literal copypasta from /pol/
>butthurt
>STILL shouting "muh SJWs!!!1
please keep posting, you're successfully making your side look like a herd of retards

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>>74236212
I'm definitly anti-wh*te but am not an SJW, kek. Western liberals are subhumans desu.

Who debunked it? Plz tell me? Here's another one stating how the gap between black and white is decreasing among the new generations.


Abstract
>All data sources indicate that black–white skill gaps diminished over most of the 20th century, but black–white skill gaps as measured by test scores among youth and educational attainment among young adults have remained constant or increased in absolute value since the late 1980s. I examine the potential importance of discrimination against skilled black workers, changes in black family structures, changes in black household incomes, black–white differences in parenting norms, and education policy as factors that may contribute to the recent stability of black–white skill gaps. Absent changes in public policy or the economy that facilitate investment in black children, best case scenarios suggest that even approximate black–white skill parity is not possible before 2050, and equally plausible scenarios imply that the black–white skill gap will remain quite significant throughout the 21st century.

Neal, D. (2006). Why has black–white skill convergence stopped?. Handbook of the Economics of Education, 1, 511-576.

>>74236234
That's an older version of the SAT, I believe. When did you take yours?

>>74236217
>I corrected my sentence
Only because you got caught
>>74236271
>>74236272
The SJWs are still clinging to their debunked studies, sad

>>74236272

I'll stop eating tacos with lime on them and you can stop driving cars, faggot.

I'll wish I could find a taco sometimes but you'll be stuck at home.

>>74236272

You just cited one of the most worthless people of all time. Cite yourself with cyanide.

>>74236262
>That's a poor excuse for being a murderous cretin.
hardly an excuse, but a result of history. I doubt blacks go around saying "I murdered this man but its actually not my fault you know" (except some hood dindus).
>It's simply due to their shit culture and lax moral values that have developed, like you said, as a result of slavery
glad we're on the same page. It's not "muh genetics" like some people say

>>74236266
I've already graduated. I didn't goto a normal uni tho, I went to the US Naval Academy and graduated a medical officer. It's a simple fact that the condition of negros is due to them being poorer.

>differences couldn't be explained by socio economic factors
Please cite these studies because modern studies state otherwise. There is an entire volume of books and research on this compiled into a book that explains the socioeconomic reasons for this.

https://www.brookings.edu/book/the-black-white-test-score-gap/

>>74236272
>>74236185
The answer is right here in the study

>educational attainment among young adults have remained constant or increased in absolute value since the late 1980s

The gap shrunk because of changes in socio-economic factors until genetic factors were the only influence left which cannot be changed in the same fashion

Also the author has a well known bias, so of course he interprets this data by claiming without evidence that it's controlled by problems in public policy his study didnt even test for.

>>74236307
Who debunked them? Plz tell me? I don't want to use debunked/fake studies, I'd probably lose my credibility like the right-wing.

>>74236356
Scientists are not celebrities. That study concludes that /pol/ is simply wrong and just memeing to hard to the point where they have a hard time accepting the fact they were wrong and that it isn't da niggurs and da esjewdoubblus

>>74236397
BTFO
>>74236393

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>>74236033
>>74236033

Oh boy it's about to get ironic again :^)
Actually got two master's degrees and am in a top law school but ok

Let's go back and find out what was being argued.

>You know this is saying that SAT scores differ due to blacks being more poor while whites being more richer.

>Explanations that appeal to differences in income or SES [socioeconomic status] cannot account for the large residual disparity that remains after controlling for those factors

So I know this is very difficult - very, very difficult - but bear with me, we're going to trace back what was actually argued, and for the record, I wasn't the first guy you replied to in this chain:

>The difference isn't entirely by environment or genetics. There's a reason why poor whites get higher SAT scores than wealthy blacks though, there is a racial factor.
>Any sources for this meme? Modern studies state otherwise.
>[study showing racial factor in SAT scores]
>[this just because of income disparity you didn't even read the study]
>[the study specifically controls for income]
>Yes but genetic differences can't account for.... [completely irrelevant shit]

So let's simplify everything down a bit:
>The difference isn't entirely environment o genetics. There's a racial factor.
>No there isn't.
>Here's a study showing that there, very specifically, conclusively, is.
>No it's due to income
>No, it's not.
>No it's not due to genetic differences [this point wasn't argued by me at any point] and ur a retard lul
>And yet somehow the paper still shows a racial factor in SAT scores.

The study was literally about there being a racial factor in SAT scores. There IS a racial factor. WHY there is a racial factor is irrelevant and not a point I was arguing. The entire reason for the 'alternate explanations' part of the paper was because the author doesn't know why there's a gap either and points out that neither genetics nor SES account satisfactorily for the differences.

This site sometimes I swear.

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>>74236307
>debunked studies
fake news
>sad
holy shit, I can't help but imagine a manlet with an irish accent talking like Trump, you're so obsessed you unironically talk like him

>>74236135

Still wrong. Only 1/4th are classified as 'in poverty'

>>74236422
Your the one in the wrong, stop defending niggers you white guilt faggot

>>74236422

I've met intelligent black people, but they were conservatives. Not crack-smoking retards that end up on COPS. Which, if you ever watched has a bunch of white people on it too.

>WE'RE IN PRISON

Stop, breaking the fucking law.

>>74236393
>only 37 years later, with the same problems still existing, genetic factors are the only influence left
yeah nice bullshit you got there

>>74236440
> SJWs are actually this obsessed
Holy shit you people are pathetic

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>>74236513

Not seeing any arguments 2bh

>>74236393
>>74236423
What a fucking retard. This guy is a PhD economist at the University of Chicago.
https://economics.uchicago.edu/directory/derek-neal

Second that is the abstract not the conclusion. And third they are questioning why the skill gap isn't being measured accurately.

>All data sources indicate that black–white skill gaps diminished over most of the 20th century

>but black–white skill gaps as measured by test scores among youth and educational attainment among young adults have remained constant or increased in absolute value since the late 1980
>as measured by test scores

This is stated that the tests are not accurately reflecting on their skills. I'm guessing you don't have uni accounts. So here is a free pdf I found
http://public.econ.duke.edu/~hf14/teaching/povertydisc/readings/neal2006.pdf

The skill gap was decreasing as measured by test scores before 1990, as in blacks and whites of similar background took these tests they would get similar scores with no gap. However after the 1990s these tests weren't measuring correctly even though economic data showed that the skill gap was still decreasing.

1/2

>>74236393
>>74236423
2/2, here is his conclusion

After some experimentation, I conclude that even the most optimistic projections
imply that the black-white skill gap will be large throughout much of
this century. To construct a best-case scenario, I draw on NAEP-LTT data
from the late 1970s and the 1980s. Between 1978 and 1986, the black-white
test score gap in math for 13 year old students shrank from 1.08 standard deviations
to .79 standard deviations. Further, between 1980 and 1988, the reading
gap for those age 13 shrank from .91 to .53. These gaps of .53 and .79 are
the smallest gaps ever recorded in the NAEP-LTT for reading and math respectively,
and the rates of convergence between black and white test scores during
these eight year periods are more rapid than rates observed during any other
periods of equal or greater length. What would happen if test scores for black
and white youth converged at these rates throughout the 21st century using
1999 gaps as baselines?57 The black-white test score gap among teenagers in
1999 was roughly .75 standard deviations in reading and .9 standard deviations
in math in 1999.58 Given the rates of convergence observed during the 1978-88
period and the 1999 baselines, one would expect the black-white reading gap to
remain above .1 standard deviations until roughly 2030 and above .05 standard
deviations until after 2040. For math, one would expect the gap to remain
above these thresholds until after 2055 and 2070 respectively.
http://public.econ.duke.edu/~hf14/teaching/povertydisc/readings/neal2006.pdf

>>74236551
It's a fact
>>74236560
>the anti white leftist is this butthurt after getting BTFO

>>74236378
>There is an entire volume of books and research on this compiled into a book that explains the socioeconomic reasons for this.

Of course there are. There are hundreds of hundreds of economists who study public policy, inequality and crime etc. Most of them are registered democrats and are firmly on the left of the political spectrum. Their whole careers are based on affirming that these social changes are real because that gives them a job, without it they'd be useless. So they create models that give unclear results often not adjusting for omitted variable bias and then give a conclusion that doesnt even match what their study found. Then other economists look at it, call it bullshit but keep quiet because if they don't then it's their career or they are unsettled by the results themselves.

Pro tip:

You have to look at the data. Always look at the data. What they left out and how they performed their analysis. The abstract is bullshit that they make up. If you can get your hands on the data you can often make better models than the """economists themselves""" because most of the times they create the models looking to get a specific results

>>74236424
>larping as a law student
>he isn't citing in apa format like a normal student would
>he's just meming
>he's confused the study for his own delusions
What is this rambling? I think your confusing "racial factor" with genetic factor. Which the UC paper cites to various other studies.

> Explanations that appeal to genetic differences cannot explain why the black-white gap narrowed significantly in the 1970s and 80s (Neal, 2006).

>>74236471
>>74236593
I hate wh*te """"people"""", I'm simply defending actual science on this. I'm not even a liberal kek, no everyone who thinks /pol/ is retarded is some red haired SJW leftists.

>>74236628

Most college students have impostor disorder. Mostly because high school didn't teach them anything other than asking when they can take a shit.

>>74236560
>This guy is a PhD economist at the University of Chicago
Again you're using an appeal to authority, you have no ideal how this guy performs his econometric tests. Stop treating economists as Gods, it's a social science lime psychology or sociology and people make mistakes(sometimes on purposes) all the time because their results have real world impact on policy.

Derek's career is all about influencing public policy about inequality and he is a well known liberal, what do you think his results will look like? There is a conflict of interest here and everyone in the business knows about it, most are okay with it though because they are on the same side, everyone else just keeps their mouth shit and grimaces at the models they create.

>>74236628
>the SJW is still in damage control mode
This is pathetic
>>74236657
You're defending an ideologically driven study

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>>74231087
>neoliberals
>conservative
I wonder who could be behind this post

>>74236451
turns out I shouldn't have corrected my sentence
http://www.irp.wisc.edu/faqs/faq3.htm
>Blacks and Hispanics, for example, have poverty rates that greatly exceed the overall average. The poverty rate for all blacks and Hispanics remained near 30 percent during the 1980s and mid-1990s, while the overall poverty rate was closer to 15 percent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States#By_race.2Fethnicity_and_family_status.2C_based_on_data_from_2007
while there are of course more poor white people than poor black people, 10.1% of all white non-Hispanic persons are poor and 26.2% of all African American persons are poor

>>74236659

To add- they will accept any level of nonsense you feed them because of it. They're insanely dumb and college professors are mostly insane molestation assholes. American colleges and universities should !)0% be purged.

Liberal arts universities are seeing a severe drop in enrollment. It's like watching the beast eat it's own shit and wonder shy it's doing it.

>>74236672
I actually do, he states it in his paper. If you actually read his paper you wouldn't need to rely on wishful thinking and assume so many things hoping one of them is correct.

The proper term for what your referring to is called "methodology". You're claiming he has a flawed methodlogy. First it's absurd considering that his paper was peer reviewed by a board of economists and scientists who do not approve the papers if they find a flaw in it. Second if you really do think that please point out where in his methology he was flawed.

http://public.econ.duke.edu/~hf14/teaching/povertydisc/readings/neal2006.pdf
It's always at the end of the papers after the conclusions next to the references.

>>Derek's career is all about influencing public policy about inequality and he is a well known liberal, what do you think his results will look like?
This is called wishful thinking. The irony when you claim my logical fallacy is "appeal to authority" when you make a fallacy of your own. Also these fallacies are not used the way Reddit uses them. Appeal to authority would be if Neal, an economist started talking about biology. In this case he is staying in his own field on something he is a professional at.

I'm going to take a guess you literally just made all that up. And this is the first time you heard about Derek Neal.

>>74236696
>SJW
>BTFO
>damage control
>sad
>this is pathetic x4
are you a bot?

>>74236696
>ideologically driven study
>it is backed by facts and evidence
There are hundreds of papers on this. It's even been compiled into it's own volume of books aggregating all the papers on the Black-white gap
https://www.brookings.edu/book/the-black-white-test-score-gap/

They all come to the same conclusion.

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>>74236628

Alright. You're impossible to talk to. I'm done. I'm not the one conflating a "racial factor" with genetic differences, you are. You asked for proof that a racial factor exists. I provided it. I'm not arguing the reasons for it (other than insofar as you are trying to dismiss the existence of a 'racial factor' by pointing to SES factors) or that they're attributable to genetic differences. You're arguing against a point I've not made and haven't been making. As a side note if you're honestly expecting me to cite shit in a 4chan post in meme American editing formats instead of just linking the bloody thing then I have no words.

Also,
>larping as a law student

Pic related. Blow me.

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>>74236781

>turns out I shouldn't have corrected my sentence (most poor people are black
>while there are of course more poor white people than poor black people...

What did he mean by this?

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>>74237187
>UCL
>top law school
>American flag while attending a college in London
>he went this far to prove he wasn't some autist

You provided that a racial factor exists? Again let me explain. The race you are thinking of does not exist. Races do exist, but not ad defined by /pol/. What you're thinking about is genetic factors. Regardless whether your larping or not. You clearly have no cited any proof. /pol/ memes are not proof, neither is wishful thinking or Reddit tier arguments where you make stuff up off the top of your head.

If you're claiming that there is a genetic factor in this then you cite those studies that show the link between specific or a group of genes and the results of test scores. Which you have failed to do. Currently genetic factors do not explain this, as the black-white gap is decreasing as measured by economics and test scores, but after the 1990s the trend as measured by test scores stagnated and stopped decreasing but measured by economics it continued to decrease. This study states with facts that this is the result of societal factors.
http://public.econ.duke.edu/~hf14/teaching/povertydisc/readings/neal2006.pdf

I also posted part of the conclusion here >>74236587

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>>74237231
I knew there was something wrong with that post
read the links and you'll understand my actual point

>>74231087
>nationalizing the banks
>bad

GOOD GOY

>>74236272
>being a spic

>>74231087
>implying American conservatives give a fuck about the bank
American politics focuses way more on left–right than authoritarian–libertarian. Just look at Trump and Hillary: both support the NSA spying on people, both want to have some form of control (whether through taxes, tariffs, etc.) over economic activity, etc.

>>74237636
>being a big government shill
Easy when your country has a low proportion of welfare recipients and retards and enjoys a much higher portion of well-educated workers.
In any country with a normal economic situation, a central bank means being able to fuck over the working man.

>>74238823
half of the banking mess of your country is that your "federal" reserve is actually privatized and holds private interest