21vs21 are going to start right now
Main live stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsYM1SLaiEQ
>What is Battle of Nations?
The Battle of the Nations is an international historical medieval battles world championship, first held in 2009, in Kharkiv, Ukraine and held in Europe, in April, every year since.
It is a full contact competition using metal weapons and a standardized list of rules. National teams compete in several standard events, with all being full contact - no stage reenactment battles are included.
Teams from up to 25 countries have entered the tournaments.
Come support your countries!
Discuss the battles and your countries armor and tactics!
first for Switzerland
Last year fighter still lurking. Will answer all questions.
Russian trolls hacked BotN pls join IMCF
Schedule:
>>74202187
Groups:
>>74202248
>>74202223
>>74214178
Most serious injury you've ever gotten?
>>74214149
Even your little flags are square? Weird.
>>74214264
Bruises and light concussions. Fractures and dislocated joints do happen but I got a good set and have been pretty lucky so far. Been doing this for 3 years.
>>74214290
Being contrarian is cool
>>74214376
how bad do sword or axe blows hurt?
>>74214376
How are the Finland teams 1/2?
Good shit?
the fug these lads aren't neckbeards most of them look like bouncers
>>74214376
were you the one accusing russians of rigging things last thread
Russia vs UK starts right now
You guys actually watch some guys larping as mount and blade??? lmao
>>74214051
Is Slovenia there and where is it being held this year?
>Russia won
What a surprise!
Just get to the Russia vs Ukraine for some fun.
>>74214516
>larping
those hits look pretty real, you try it, faggit
>>74214516
>mount and blade
wtf cunt, you think mount and blade didnt directly take from history?
>>74214051
russians need to be banned
>>74214527
Spain, m8. And yes, Slovenia has a team in 5v5s which start tomorrow.
>>74214632
I'm 6'2 and going to the gym for years. I'll probably roast some regulars.
>>74214664
There is only 2 million of us. Where do we pull this autists from?
Fucking bongs are getting meme'd on
>>74214482
>thinking neckbeards would have the strenght and stamina to this
why do Russians always win
>>74214719
like I said, try it
I thought the heraldic is supposed to be modern.
Why are Russians wearing Empire colors?
It's way outside of medieval period too.
Still, handling UK's assses to them.
>>74214453
Sword hits rarely hurt unless they hit a good spot. 2h axe hits hurt but you're in so much adrenaline that you can push through it. You'd still want to catch that axe with your shield rather than with your helmet.
>>74214474
Some from last years Finland 1 dropped out due to financial issues this year but they're still pretty solid. Finland 2 is mostly new guys.
>>74214493
You misunderstood. I meant that accusations of cheating were one of the reasons IMCF was formed. I don't think they have been straight up cheating, rather there's been misunderstandings due to language and cultural barriers.
>this commentator
>>74214744
Most experience / training.
>>74214744
professionals
>muh multicultarism
Seriously, I can't escape this shit even in medieval nationalistic competition?
>>74214759
>pay hundreds of euros for armour and a mace to just try it once
>tfw stream 1 is shite but the commentators talk about that one so looking at the other one is weird
>>74214761
cause its cool I guess
I liked those 1v1 americans earlier with the non-generic sort of costume looking gear, looked like 18th century formal wear
>>74214744
judges bought
>>74214744
they are spetsnaz
>>74214051
This is actually interesting content. That's why i come here.
>>74214839
Clubs usually loan stuff to new members and what not.
>>74214818
honestly yeah wtf
it's like they feel the need to apologize for something nobody even accused them of, something that they don't even need to apologize for even if they were accused
he said absolutely nothing of meaning either
That's a nice shot
What a shame, Poland.
21vs21 is so much better this year with the bigger arena.
Burgers vs spaghetti now
>>74214898
>>74214839
there you go, try it, tough guy
>>74214910
he's Australian so that's normal
>>74214178
You did this last year? War with Finland when?
>>74214945
Okay I will. I have no idea if those clubs even exist here. I only know of the cosplay kind of and that's something I want to stay far away from.
burgers btfo
>US vs Italy
>Some hugging, some pushing
>Ukraine vs Poland
>Full 2h axe swings into heads
ITALY STRONG
>>74215055
They're big guys though.
>>74215005
Seems to be most of your national team is from clubs "Ascia" and "Lions of Steel"
>>74215055
They are big guys
>>74215071
4u desu senpai
>>74215061
Slavs are animals. That's why they are so good at this. Will we see Russia vs Ukraine today and will there be dead?
>>74214959
the cunts autistic or something, he's being impartial and inoffensive as possible
doesnt sound aussie either, i think he lives in UK or something.
>>74214051
Lol amerisharts BTFO
>>74214969
Not me but it was brutal as hell. Too bad all finns felt pretty bad for it and got a bit demotivated as we thought we actually paralyzed the guy.
We later learned that his armor was actually faulty which is why the force penetrated so effectively. He's also fine nowadays.
fuck, that was fast
>Italy won
that's actually pretty surprising
>american
>charge 'n pray style
>die instantly
>>74215215
fucking hell they did it again one guy that instantly falls over
That fucking Czech with feathers.
>>74214969
What should I be looking at? There is too much going on.
>>74215274
real monster, he got like 3 takedowns this round
>>74215270
sad, because it was pretty close there at one point
1 guy more is a huge deal
Hi where are the burgers?
>>74215290
That guy who got hit in the neck with an axe was taken to a hospital l8r iirc.
>>74214051
fucking rip germs
LIBERATED
>>74214178
How much did you pay for your gear?
Betting on this would be so easy. Just bet the house on the team that comes from the more easterly country.
>tfw no cute slavic medievalboo gf
>>74215413
China is in this year
>>74215518
Well if I've learned one thing on /heem/ it's never bet on an asian fighter.
I can hear a spanish relator.... There is any stream in spanish?
>>74214051
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6ggbCoFcmo
>>74215413
Well, you just lost a bet
>>74215490
just kill me now
>>74215613
Yeah but it'd be balanced out by all the others I would have won.
Czech vs Spain fight was awesome holyshit
>that Czech guy front kicking the guy in the gut
Why are Russians and Ukrainians even allowed here? They should just fight between them for 1st and 2nd place, and let everyone else fight for the 3rd.
The Russian's overhand polearm game seems unbeatable.
I don't know why people bother doing anything else.
>>74215399
I'd say my current set is something between 1500-2000€. My first set was around 1200€ but I've since upgraded some of my gear (shins, helmet, gauntlets, gambesons).
The cheapest sets are around 800€ if you order from Russian armorsmiths and get them delivered to an event like BOTN.
>>74215595
I would assume so, the event is being held in Barcelona I think.
Czechs rolling out big guys
>>74215678
p i k e s
>>74214051
Roar.
Finns need more +190cm street fighters.
>Which seems to be the Russian way. ;^)
>Feather Czach is back
I hope Spaniards asses are ready
They need a few less camera changes.
It's hard enough following a 21 v 21 fight without the camera jumping to a new corner of the ring every couple of seconds.
BIG GUYS DOWN
REVOLUTIONARY WAR COMING UP.
Why don't they fight in formation?
What are the rules? How hard are you allowed to hit?
BIG
SPANISH
GUYS
They need to fucking fix their camera shit.
>OH THAT'S A BIG TAKEDOWN
>camera is zoomed out so you can't see shit.
>one commentator sounds like a girl
>seconds randomly screams
the JR&King of our times
>>74215871
They do initially, battle usually breaks up the formations though. Look at how polearms are positioned.
>What are the rules?
In 5v5s and 21v21s you have to throw enemies to the ground to get them out of the match. Thrusting is not allowed etc. I guess the finn (>>74214178) might be able to help out here with more specific questions.
>>74215905
>>74215822
Word.
>>74215957
The one commentator is making me miss Goldie again.
>>74215987
So it's glorified judo?
>>74215711
I found one in russian, but none in spanish :C
>>74216022
Not really.
Can we make state based teams? I want to make a team of Hoosiers called the "Hoosier Autists". We'll sporadically say Hoosier daddy throghout the fight as we get our shit kicked in
I think this would be more exciting if fence grabbing wasn't allowed. I mean leaning against it is one thing, but straight up grabbing it just slows things up.
1 vs 1 should be replaced in the middle and grabbing the "ropes" should be forbidden
>>74216022
Depends on the team. Russia, Ukraine and Belarus can overally just destroy people with or without judo
That Czech vs Spain was intense as fuck.
OH SHIT I'M LATE WHAT DID I MISS FOR 21V21
>>74216119
East Slavs OP, pls nerf.
American Revolutionary War re-enactment going on right now
>>74215905
if there was more money in it (is there even any?) im sure the camera work would be great.
>>74216154
You missed a spicy clanger between Spain and Czechia.
Other than that mostly Russia and Ukraine roflstomping whoever they were against.
>>74216154
you just btfod us
>>74215905
The operator work is absolute shit.
>Two 1 vs1 fights.
>Shows the one that's at stalemate and ignores the one tha tjust resolved.
Also those endgame grappling fights along the walls are pretty boring.
>>74216094
agreed
>>74216154
Czech v Spain proably best fight ever
Rewind the stream 10 minutes
>>74216154
You just btfo'ed butgers
>UKR v FRA
RIP frogs.
>>74216174
Can't
hohols pls no
>>74216236
>>74216229
Shiiiiiiiiit
I'll do it later because I don't want to miss the current stuff. Will 10 minutes back also include based Bonglads kicking the Burgers arse?
>>74215871
Pretty much what >>74215987 said. You're allowed to hit as hard as you can. There are rules on how rounded and how much the weapons weigh.
>>74216084
The Armored Combat League (ACL) is an american league for this.
why don't we have any big black dudes out there?
>France vs Ukraine
oy vey, not another terrorist attack
>>74216281
Yeah that happened right after.
>>74216281
Yes. US vs GBR just ended, second round of that match starting soon.
>this camerawork
Literally Kevin Dunn
STRONG AMERICANS
STRONG AMERICANS
>>74216291
We should make use of our American bred super niggers. Also wouldn't hurt to throw in some native Americans.
BIG AMERICANS
>>74214785
>I meant that accusations of cheating were one of the reasons IMCF was formed. I don't think they have been straight up cheating, rather there's been misunderstandings due to language and cultural barriers.
Why exactly Russians were accused?
Wish these commentators would come to the UFC. Shit's been weak ever since Mike Goldberg got axed.
This is the first time in 3-4 months that I've heard commentators who actually sound excited about what they're watching.
>>74216294
>>74216311
Thank you
BASED BONGLADS
>BIG GUYS
fug :DDDDD
STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
For you
This 21v21 is so much better the List is huge this time round it's not a complete clusterfuck
Why don't all of the polearm users just trip their enemies?
Any footage of where a ref is being hit?
rip Frenchies :(
>>74216406
great place to organize this, sadly not many spectators
>>74216414
I would assume because if you miss you'll get disarmed pretty easily by someone just stomping on your weapon.
>>74216367
>Goldie fan
Muh nigga. One of these guys has a voice that sounds too familiar.
Think it's one of the commentators from 4cc that sounds like him
>last year
>arena too small so it's a clusterfuck
>this year
>arena is great but divided into two rings and because of shitty camera work we often don't see most of the good action
>>74216414
Tripping gets used by everyone quite often desu. I'm not sure about tripping with weapons, it might be banned.
>>74216450
Probbly gonna be more tomorrow. First day is usually sorta barren.
>>74216420
there's a hohole in that armour
>>74216450
Not in the arena at least, but when you combine the streams there seems to be about 2000 people watching.
RUSSIANS AND UKRAINIANS SHOULD HAVE THEIR OWN EVENTS
LEAVE US ALONE
>>74216359
I'm not entirely sure, it all happened before I got into the sport and there seems to be some exaggerations and what not. But I heard it was shit like allowing russains to have pointier weapons, judges turning blind eyes on some illegal moves, lack of communication for non-russian speaking teams. But this is just what I've heard.
fug
I must leave
farewell for now thread
Embarrassing
Good thing there are Latin/Germanic nations so we can fight some of the fights
>italian literally trips without any outside interference
>>74216542
This used to be a Russan/Ukrainian event in the first place.
>>74216563
win*
>>74216591
He got confused and thought he was playing divegrass. Natural instinct took over.
Is there a Greek team and do they dress as eastern Romans?
>>74216605
also Polish
Can any retard just make a team and join this?
>>74216563
>>74216542
You'll probably get better fights tomorrow in 5v5s.
>>74216559
Cya m8
>>74216631
Nope and nope. Sorry to dissapoint.
>>74216666
You can make it through the qualifiers.
Why is the stadium so empty? So sad...
Italy is pretty good.
>>74216485
Would be nice if they combined the arenas and had one big melee the last day.
ROMA INVICTA
>>74216709
First day and apparently the organizers went full jew with ticket prices.
>>74216709
lazy spaniards
>>74216666
>4chan Clan
>Boromir Cucumber, Zitto Animale, John Feelerino, Alberto Barbosa and Roger Elliot
Like this?
>>74216591
They have football flashbacks.
""OH BERLUSCOONII! I WAS TRIPPED! REFEREE AAARGH I'M DYING!"
REEE CHEATING POLES
KURRRRWA :DD
POLAND STRONG SPAIN WE WAR YOU
>Russia v USA
This is going to be murder.
Time for cold war 2 electric boogaloo
fuck we lost
IT'S TIME
>>74216760
Boromir is dead, anon
>starting two fights at the same time
Get your shit together. Will nobody think of the spectators?
>>74216703
>Poland
>Ukraine
H E L P
>China
lolwut
It seems the shields have a max size?
>>74216703
>Israel
lolwut
>>74216872
Huh?
>>74216921
Most likely. If you're interested in details, try looking for the rules on botn page.
>>74216931
Israelis are mostly russians desu.
>>74216891
Japan also had a team like three years ago iirc.
Oh shit, USA actually handling Russia half-decently...in one corner.
Sheeit
>>74216744
How sad, what a waste of such a pretty stadium!
Wiedzmins are victorous.
>>74216931
Something wrong goy-kun?
>That onslaught of Russians
Lmao good job Burgers
>>74216970
I want French and Japanese knights to hug for 3 minutes
why does russia vs ____
always result in ___ being backed into the same corner and absolutely fucked by polearms?
also does USA win any round?
>>74216985
>literally a Russian cosplaying
BATMAN IS DOWN
>anyone against Russia
>>74217012
I don't know why the fuck other teams don't study the Russians' polearm game and imitate it.
>>74217012
US is weak af this year
Last year they were better
Are the Russians and Ukrainians here just to see how many people they can get in the hospital or what? It's nothing but headshots
Fucking scum
>>74217051
Memexico is this year? Last year they lose every fight lmao
>>74217072
>how dare they be effective.
Axes to the head is how you win. I'm just disappointed none of the other teams can seem to master that basic move.
>>74217012
Because Russians are masters of this game
>>74217047
Russian commentator said that Italian team was trained by Russians, so this year they are much stronger
Holy shit Stretcher
First death? What caused it?
F
>>74217095
Not in 21vs21
>>74217119
CTE via 3 Russian polearms.
>>74217072
Quit being a bitch nigger. This isn't the sport to get into if you're not anticipating getting smashed in the fucking face with an axe.
Winter War's over. Move on.
>>74216921
>>74216970
There's a limit to shield size but it applies mostly to 1vs1 sword&shield. In mass battle you just don't have any clear advantage to having a big shield, a small one that you can easily strike with is infinitely better.
>>74217072
That are you whining about? You don't complain about headshots in boxing either. It's part of the game.
Who pays for all of this? Those 100 spectators can't be enough to cover all the costs.
>>74217012
They're unable to properly reform after the line breaks and lone fighters are quickly picked off. Larger remaining groups get pushed into a corner.
What the fuck, Czechia?
>losing to frogs
The fuck pepiks?
>>74217214
I'll blame the hungarian mercenaries
>>74217164
>That are you whining about?
It's like in MMA where you down a guy but get in a couple cheap shots after he is already KO to give him permanent brain damage or break a jaw
One guy in the corner vs four polearms just smashing him in the head, the fucking battle is already over they are just trying to murder someone
>>74217214
>>74217234
They're probably still gassed from that war with Spain.
>>74217234
We're one of the best teams.
WE WILL KICK YOUR ASS, POLAND
>>74217108
but it's the same strat every match, why arent they countered and forced to do something else?
>>74217251
The battle is not over until the refs says so and the last man is down so technically it's still all legal.
>>74217251
The battle isn't over until the marshals stop it.
Same thing in MMA, if the ref doesn't stop it you keep hitting.
>>74217251
>One guy in the corner vs four polearms just smashing him in the head
That's literally not allowed. Refs break it up if it's more than two or three guys on one, I belive.
Also people don't hit with their full strength and they wear plenty of protection.
>>74217273
Because no tactic works against Russia. The only way would be to literally mirror their tactic but since no country is strong enough, they'll just win anyway.
I think Belarus actually managed to beat one Russian team last year but it could be my shit memory
>>74217303
>people don't hit with their full strength
Lol no, the Russians are clearly going at it with everything they have. If other teams aren't, that might explain why they're winning.
>>74217327
Sure, they're more hardcore than the others but they still aren't hitting with the intention of cuasing injuries etc.
>>74217251
As long as you're standing, you're in the game. Striking on downed opponents is against the rules though. If you can't take it you just let yourself fall down.
>>74214051
wouldn't grapple and clinch oriented martial arts practitioners adapted to this easily dominate everyone?
>>74217353
>they still aren't hitting with the intention of cuasing injuries
When it comes to Ukrainians and Russians thats what im doubting desu
>>74217353
Oh I'm not saying they're doing anything wrong, but they're definitely striking with full power. I.e. playing to win, nothing wrong with that.
>shit connection
>stream keeps sputtering
>144p
LA LUCHA HISTORICA
>>74217270
Do you have Belarusian Legionaries
>>74217326
Ukraine
I got my money on Italy this round.
>>74217379
Or a american football/rugby team?
>>74217326
>I think Belarus
It was Ukraine. Those guys can beat us this year. They're progressing really fast.
>>74217438
http://botn.info/national-team/en-national-team-of-france
Only one Slavic name
>>74217251
>permanent brain damage or break a jaw
Dude, that shit happens ONLY if you're extremely unlucky.
>>74217442
Well I just lost it. UK has a hell of a team this year.
>>74217438
>>74217461
Yeah, I mistook them for Belarus becase I think last year or two years ago Belarus actually went on to be pretty damn good.
GET REKT UK STRONK
just got back from work
what are the best teams besides russia and ukraine?
how is poland doing?
>>74217326
seems like shit sport if tactics stagnate to 1 idea, just means whoever has practiced the 1 idea most will win, i hope it gets more popular and tactics diversify/develop
>>74217516
Poland's doing fairly well, only lost against Ukraine. UK is also doing well. Italy fairly well too.
>>74217516
we lost 0:2 vs Ukraine, but won 2:0 with Spain
Czech vs Spain was best fight by far
>>74214178
This >>74217167
>>74217519
Western teams show pretty good improvement over the years desu.
>>74217450
definitely not, you can't tackle and as we've seen (especially as displayed by americans) charging doesn't really work unless it's short, well-timed and perfect balance is maintained.
>the Ukrainian mad axeman in the middle spamming overheads
That's how you get shit done. Why can't western teams?
so the finals will be russia vs ukraine?
>>74217612
Looking like it.
Where's /ourguy/ competing this year?
>>74217612
Russia has multiple teams in 5v5s. So there might be russia vs russia. But otherwise, probably.
>>74217573
Ukrainians also clearly have a formation, two lanes: frontline and polearmers behind them. Spaniards just charged in as a mob.
There's a huge gap between East and West here.
>>74217476
Well, I was misled by the colors of the form, you have fighters without yellow roses.
>>74217686
Yeah it's a simple strategy - front line ties them up, second line smashes them in the head. And it works every time.
>>74217660
Wasn't one tournament basically
1. Russia 1
2. Russia 2
3. Ukraine 1
4. Russia 3
>>74217699
...holy shit, that's not an edit?
What's his nationality?
I'd blame the Aztec gold.
>>74217660
If it's Russia vs Russia final one side better not immediately concede like last year.
>>74217699
>mio
wew
>>74217747
It's an edit.
Belarussian fighter.
>>74217639
At least not eating burgers.
>>74217785
>it's an edit
;_;
This is legit so fun.
I envy anyone discovering this for the first time because my first year I couldn't stop laughing
>>74217747
Belarusian, lol
>>74217728
Russia 2 did bad last year. Shame on them.
UKRAINE STRONK
>>74217808
>tfw discovered it the year it was in Poland but on the last day and I couldn't get there on time
>Ukrainians are keeping the formation even when walking around the arena
>>74217808
A couple of years back here on 4chan. Haven't watched it again until today, totally a coincidence I saw the thread up.
>>74217727
the main difference is just timing, and wherein russia and ukraine don't obscure each other, rather move as a blob where everyone knows the positioning and what's happening. You can pile on good consecutive polearm hits if your own team gets in the way and you don't have any rhythm or system.
>>74217808
I knew it existed but had no clue when I was on.
If you were the Brit who posted the link in /heem/ then thanks because otherwise I would for sure have missed it.
THE WALL
>>74217942
>can
can't
IT'S LIKE NORMANDY ALL OVER AGAIN
OMG the USA flag so funny, lol, they look so dubm aslo all fat
So Germany confirmed being weakest team
why are burgers so rude?
why are germans so shit? and why don't they wear their nation's colors?
Germany cucked by Burger superiority
>>74217967
It's me brutha.
/heem/ has moved past it this year it seems, webm Ausbro isn't around which is a shame because he actually quite enjoyed it too and I doubt he knows it's on.
/sp/ thread is dead af too, I started one on /int/ since I figured it'd be better off. Last year I think /sp/, /tv/ and /int/ had threads
Germoney BTFO
>>74214051
Woah, this is Finnish levels of autistic.
too many teams wear blue 2bh
>>74218036
>and why don't they wear their nation's colors?
das racis
>Poland and France almost surrendered to each other
>>74218012
>>74218036
>America wins 1 fight
>yuros promptly get triggered
You guys are worse than Canadians
>>74218097
ETERNAL FRIENDSHIP :3
>>74218069
Yeah I'm just following it here because the /sp/ thread was going nowhere.
ISRAELI MERCENARY
>>74218142
Which team is he on? Would be laff if USA
>>74218163
France
>israeli mercenary
wut
Man there are no breaks between action is there
>>74218163
That would be the other way round
America finally realizes how you use polearms.
BIG SHOTS
>>74218184
That's why it would be so funny. Top ironing.
Is Batman on the USA team?
>>74218182
Pretty much. Also one of the reason why hugging at end of some matches happens, people are just super tired.
Shame Japan doesn't field a team of samurai
>>74218197
Too bad they do that with Zweihandlers
>>74218249
China is in this year though.
Arent swords super ineffective with this ruleset?
>>74218249
I saw one of you fuckers steal this comment and post it in the youtube chat
>>74218283
Shit are they in this 21v21 round? Or do they just come in later?
>>74218205
You're the best, Poland.
>>74218111
americans are funny, that has nothing to do with where i am from
also remebering the biggest rekt https://youtu.be/Slu4MgS-Rzg?t=5m10s
>>74218249
Traditional samurai armour would be too weak for competition standards.
>>74218294
Nah, polearms and long hammers are the shit
>>74218076
Holy fuck those burger-torpedoes are deadly.
They looked at horses and saw great potential in stampedes...
Well done either way.
>One Pole charges against 5 French
>Well, I better film the hugging crowd
>>74218302
They're in 5v5s tomorrow.
>>74218294
Not really, a Czech using a greatsword did quite well earlier.
>>74218328
They could make metal gundam suits
>>74218384
Meant 1 handed swords
>we lost vs frogeaters
Italians getting thrown all over the ring.
New thread?
>>74218428
We're just too good, m8
We were top tier knights, back then
poland confirmed for not slavic at all
>>74218470
On it.
>>74217543
I've heard there might be some generous sponsors in Russia supporting these events but that you shouldn't ask too many questions unless you want to meet Russia 1 on a back alley.
Might be just some russian banter though. Most of the people working there are volunteers so most expenses are just for the venue.
>>74217639
Unfortunately couldn't make it this year. :(
Whats the cripple/death count for BoTN?
I could never find the stats and find it hard to believe noone has got permanent casualties in all these years.
>>74218484
Can I make it?
Kind of crazy how every Russian fight is the same. They just bulldoze the opponent and literally don't fall
>>74218489
lel
I like how Russia just fucking elbows and pommels everyone's heads to make them cover up
>>74218428
We're literally midcarders now
>>74218551
Announcers claimed a while ago that there have been no reports of serious injuries at any events.