Which language is better?

italian

>>74166366
French

t. British who went in both countries

French.

Spanish spoken by a mexican is fucking revolting

>>74166366
Greek

>>74166366
French, Spanish has too many unpleasant New World connotations

Portuguese
French sounds gay as fuck and spanish is just a crippled version of portuguese

>>74166457
>Spanish spoken by a mexican is fucking revolting
true.

>>74166366

better as in more useful? better as in some kind of grammatical feature one has over the other?

In Europe French is more useful, more people speak it, Frenchmen, half of Belgians including the capital of the EU, almost all Swiss as first or second language, and also north african, syrian and sub saharan immigrants who are quite common in Europe.

Romance languages are very similar to each other (except romanian or sardinian), and there is nothing you can do in French that you cant do in Spanish or vice versa except for Puns/Word Plays which are almost always unstranslatable for any language, and also the fact that Spanish and Portuguese have two verbs for being, Ser and Estar which is the biggest difference between them and French-Italian.

French also has a better literature, at least from the 1700s to the 1970s.

Also, IMO, French is easier after you cross the pronounciation/spelling filter.

>>74166896
>including the capital of the EU
>ayayay lo hablan en europa distrito federal mi cuateee

spanish
french sounds faggy

>>74166366
Spanish, even though I speak French.

Spanish is far more relevant and I think easier.

Spanish - language of conquistadors and spic druglords

French - language of faggots

the choice is obvious

J'ai appris à parler français parce que le climat de l'Amérique du sud ne me plaît pas. Il y fait trop chaud. Et je suis sérieux, il n'y avait aucune autre raison.

I learned to speak French because I don't like the climate in South America. It's too hot there. And I'm serious too, there was no other reason.

>>74167195
French is the language of the Encyclopedists and of Napoleon.

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>>74166366
Both are major languages of Europe and are both as interesting as the others and will open a huge pan of literature as interesting as the other.
They're both worth learning.
You like omelette ? Learn French
You like tortillas ? Learn Spanish

>>74166588
/thread

>>74166366
Spanish

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>>74167446
>You like tortillas ? Learn Spanish
THIS

French, absolutely no competition

French is the best language in the world.

spanish

>>74169690
>the Australian Frenchboo
Classic

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>>74169884
Vive le Québec libre

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Is there a linguistic difference between the Spanish spoken in the US and Mexico, and the Spanish spoken in Spain and every other Spanish-speaking country?

I feel like Spanish is actually a great language, but I also feel like I have a negative connotation against it. I hear about it being the second language of love, but when I hear it in person, it just sounds like shit.

Spanish has nothing on French. Hell, it just sounds like retarded Italian.

French, without a doubt. Spanish might be grammatically and orthographically easier but not a single one of its accents sounds good.

>>74166457
>>74166625
too bad is the only spanish that matters though

>>74170141
Bien dit

>>74170179
>I feel like Spanish is actually a great language, but I also feel like I have a negative connotation against it
this

>>74166457
i agree
its a shame you guys only know the mexican

>>74170584
explain that

>>74166366
hard choice

Spanish - Sudacas
French - Negros and Arabs

>>74170179
>Is there a linguistic difference between the Spanish spoken in the US and Mexico, and the Spanish spoken in Spain and every other Spanish-speaking country?

Yes.

>>74170387
Is this the Mexican equivalent of the poos' "superpower by 2030"?

>>74170934
Sudacas are immensely superior to the religion of peace.

>>74171222
But thete's an american "presione 2 para eapañol" thing already Lmao

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>>74166366
Catalan

>>74171565
I believe CHIs will move away from Spanish as they become more integrated/successful though, simply because of the class connotations of the Spanish language in the US. It's perceived as low-prestige so I bet in a generation or two you'll have CHIs pretending they can't speak Spanish.

>>74166588
>gay

When will this meme end

>>74169884
kek I genuinely am becoming one now that I think about it
love the food, the cities, the people, the history, the literature and the language

Australia is still better though

>>74167081
So is Finnish desu

>>74167195
But also the language of the toplads who tried to liberate you

Ungrateful poles

>>74166366
What's the point of learning french? It will be a dead language in 20 years when their muslims overlords rules it out.

>>74172333
>""""""Tried"""""""
Try harder. You could've stopped appeasing Hitler and prevent them from ever thinking about touching Poland.

You could've helped them in the Warsaw Uprising but instead let the Soviets """"""liberated"""""" them.

>>74172776

Cause Muslims speak French.

>>74173203
I was thinking of the Napoleonic era

>>74166366
written: french

spoken: castillan spanish

>>74171684
perritos scatalonenses

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French.

I love Spanish (there is some countries with horrible accents tho), although the Arabic influenced Spanish words like "ojalá" kinda rub me in the wrong way desu

>>74168127
that's a terrible looking tortilla ctually

>>74166366
SPANISH
IT'S PRETTY USEFUL

>>74179457
for you

S P A N I S H
P
A
N
I
S
H

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>>74166588

>>74166434
>t. British who went in both countries

>t. British
>went in

fuck off Pierre
but yea i'd probably go with frogspeak

>>74169884
we call them ouiaboo's, anon

I think both languages are pretty cool desu

Also if we're talking Spanish, you Spaniards can claim yours is better and all, but Mexican Spanish movie dubs are still superior and able to show human emotion

>>74180029
Mexicans don't have feelings.

spanish is easy to pronunce for japs.
I always wish it was spoken in all over the world like english.
french sounds cute but more difficult to pronunce and spell it out for japs(or everyone who doesn't speak it) than english

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Yet another thread that has absolutely nothing to do with us where the conversation shifts towards our country. I sometimes wonder what it's like being irrelevant.

>>74179884
Literally nothing wrong with that sentence, matey.

'Went' is the past tense of 'wend', meaning to wander about. 'Go' literally has no past tense.

Read more.

>>74180168
>I sometimes wonder what it's like being irrelevant.
but, YOU are irrelevant, you're basically the poor us neighbor with gangs and hoes

>>74180205
FOP (fuck off Pierre)
I would legit glass anyone who I heard saying "I'm a British who went in Spain"

>>74180256
You need to learn how to make emphasis on the right word using caps lock.

>>74168127
Stupid venacio, there's like 190 countries where tortilla means a flat, thin corn bread the others are memes

>>74180375
>everything is Mexico

Sure thing, Cuauhtémoc "Saltamuros" Contreras

>>74180371
as long as you're a so good english speaker, why don't you migrate to the states to do what you're used to ? like raping girls and selling drugs to youngsters ?

>>74170179
You have only heard the Spanish of the Mexican lower class, listen to our dubs from before 2010 or the ones from Spain if you like the lisp

>>74180465
Reminder that France lost a war to Mexico :^)

>>74180524
Reminder that France btfo Mexico with a bunch of soldiers first

>>74166366
Ladino is the pinnacle of the romance tongue

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>>74180594
>France btfo Mexico
>still lost

>>74171711
implying amerishit culture doesnt glorify being a uniqeu special snowflake

>>74166457
agreed

>>74180069
You say this yet Spaniard dubs are shit

>>74180089
I have also noticed how easy it is to pronounce Japanese for a native Spanish speaker. Pretty cool if you ask me.

>>74180360
Bellicose ill-educated pleb?

You surprise me.

>>74167195
Guy from fucking "i suck Germany's dick and Russia takes me from behind" Poland talks about fagottry? That's pretty fucking rich

>>74181759
Watch this video and try not to get second hand embarrassment.

https://youtu.be/tyq3J4DtCCY

Spain needs to get their shit together when it comes to their voice actors kek

I personally love the Mexican, Colombia and Salvadoran dubs that you can hear in channels like discovery channel, animal planet and history Chanel.

>>74183939
>discovery channel, animal planet and history Chanel
I though those were from Venezuela

>>74184017
Some of them, I guess, but I've heard some that have been translated here, or in Colombia, special when they are specials like the ones from "shark week" and "la semana de la tierra" and shit like that.

Spanish and French both seem like each got assigned their half of the Portuguese phoneme book.

Spain got the open vowels and nice-sounding verbs, but it's very hard to take serious because it feels like what Portuguese kids speak until they get a better control of their mouths.

French feels like it got all the nasal sounds and the harsh consonants that sound like shit without the balance of the softer and more assertive open vowels. It feels like valley girl to the extreme so it sounds so passive-agressive and bitchy. Like you're always stating a back-handed compliment.

Italian seems the same as Spanish, but the musicality of it makes it have a bit more charm and get away as playful as opposed to retarded.

Portuguese is a beautiful language once you speak and control it, but I imagine it sounds like slurred drunken Spanish until you get the different nuances in the vowels (or lack thereof)

>>74184355
Portuguese sounds awful to my French ears, Spanish sounds way better

>>74184439
I can understand that.

Which would you say it's the manliest Romance language? I feel like it's Portuguese because of the closed vowels and being very stern, but I can admit it may be carried by a huge bias.

Keep in mind that even our women have moustaches, though.

>>74184355
>>74184439
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCCGQ9SBTuI

>>74166366
GALICIAN
ALICIAN
LICIAN
ICIAN
CIAN
IAN
AN
N
T.Swabia

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French all the way

French would be the best language if English didn't exist

>>74184595

Yeah it's a shame galician got cucked by spanish and now sounds like siesta party.

Portuguese - s = x

Galician - x = x

you'll find this a lot in galician, but it's basically the same as portuguese.
plus, the r, ss, x, ch, lh and low tune vowels, makes us prone to speak germanic and slavic languages.


we really speak and sound like russian.

>>74166457
Yeah...

>>74184529
Not him, but I have no idea

I don't think any language is "gay" or "manly"

>>74185360

Italian - a bit gay sounding, but requinted as fuck

French - full gay mode, that's how it still sounds to me.

Spanish - childish, hyperventilating siesta party

Portuguese - Дeтcкaя, гипepвeнтиляциoннaя cиecтy

Romanian - Is this even romance anymore?

>>74183766
such a french post

>>74185718
Why is it gay? Nasal sounds? Too "soft"?

>>74185766

It's the way you pronounce the L's and the words ending in "ui" often make it sound like that.

gay is just the word we chose to describe it.

It's an okay language overall, portuguese verbs follow a french pattern rather than a spanish one (I know that spanish =/ portuguese, and that they didn't come from one another).

The more you know...

>>74185885
>the L's

You mean the R's?

>
It's an okay language overall, portuguese verbs follow a french pattern rather than a spanish one

based

OP here, I kinda know both languages though my French needs a lot of work. I prefer the sound of Spanish desu, especially the typical Spain accent with distinction.

>>74177418
I kinda like words with Arabic origin like "ojalá" and "ataúd" (not a muslim).

>>74180089
Spanish, Italian, and Japanese are all easy to pronounce for Greeks too.

>>74184355
Portuguese sounds like fake Spanish 1, and Italian like fake Spanish 2 to me.

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>>74174920
FUCK OFF TERRONI

>>74185766
No, we have nasal sounds too and if anything it makes us sound drunk.

To me it's the very pronounced "u" tending ever so lightly to the "è" and a lot of the words ending with é or è, which are fairly gayer sounds than a strong sound like the open "Ah" or "Oh".

The way you always scratch your "R" is also a bit gay. We also scratch some, but not all (half the time it's like the Scottish r).

>>74185952
Portuguese has an undeniable French influence. Also, like French, the main component to our accent is Celtic, not Roman, so that compounds a bit.

It just sounds very delicate and effeminate in a way. Like it's being spoken in cursive with tones of loops, if that makes sense. It'd be gayer if it had the "th" thing castilian does.

>>74166366
French > Italian > Spanish

>>74186114
Oh, and the fact that you usually accent the last syllable of the words, for some reason. Sounds like Hedonismbot from futurama.

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>>74186249

THIS

THIS IS WHAT I MEANT WITH THE "UI" THING

>>74166366
ROMANIAN

>>74186114
but the way spaniard make their R are way more gayer as they most use they tongue like if they were sucking an anus

>>74186249
>>74186279
what is Italian langage then ?

>>74183939
Reminder that Dragon Ball was dubbed in Andalusia hence the so bad it's good acting and butchered translation.

>>74166588
this

>>74186279
Yeah, took me a while to pin it down, but that's definitely the biggest component, isn't it?

English always stresses the first:
>STRAW-bry
Portuguese usually stresses the penultimate:
>straw-BEH-rry
French stresses the last:
>straw-be-REE

Obviously when forcing your own accent on English.

>>74186323
We use either varying by region (and even person). It doesn't sound gayer, but the rolled R is generally considered a bit less classy. But classy doesn't mean manly, I think.

The short Scottish rolled "r" is ubiquitous thoughout the country and it balances out the strong R, rolled (Spanish) or scratched (French) so neither sounds too bad.

>>74186379
I'd describe Italian as flamboyant as opposed to gay. It sounds camp, but playful and self-aware, so it's more charming that way. To me at least.

>>74186323
>but the way spaniard make their R are way more gayer as they most use they tongue like if they were sucking an anus

rolling r? [r]
some people use it in southern portuguese regions, but with less gay power than the spanish people do.

the tap ins are the same for portuguese and spanish

>>74186557
>southern portuguese regions
It's not a southern/northern thing. It's an Urban/Rural thing. I'm from the Coimbra and everyone in the city uses the scratchy R and everyone from the countryside uses the rolling R.

It was tied to class at some point (the nobles wanted to sound more French), but it's diffused to just the cities vs. countryside.

>>74171684
That's just a bastardized French with Spanish pronunciation.

>>74186711

É o sotaque de Setúbal! Eles falam todos assim.

Fodese is spanish or portuguese ?
I always thought it was portuguese, but my spanniard bro aften call me like this.

>>74183766
Boo because only cucks and Muslims call themselves British in the u.k

>>74186820
É o sotaque da Beira toda também. O que define Norte é o Mondego, não o Tejo, e mesmo em Trás-os-Montes enrolam o R.

>>74186859
It's "Foda-se" as it "Fuck it". Often exhasperated into a dsss, as is Portuguese tradition of avoiding the vowel taxman.

>>74186859
>Fodese is spanish or portuguese ?
Portuguese
>>74186859
>but my spanniard bro aften call me like this.
then he is not Spanish ,

>>74186323
The Spanish and Italian R is the same as the Latin one and it doesn't sound gay, it sounds like a growling dog.
Also, most Frenchmen still used it in the 1800 and there are plenty of recordings from the 30s of Frenchmen singing with the Spanish/Italian R.

The French R is a recent Parisian fashion that spread like cancer and sounds like you are gargling, like you put something in your mouth that is touching your throat.

>>74179884
> Fuck off Pierre
Not him but I bursted out of laughing
Oh, gotta love /int/ sometime

>>74180029
>>74180069
Both can btfo, Spanish emotions are nonexistent and Mexican neutral expression are painfully cancerous and stupid. Plus Spain uses a 45 year old to make the voice of a 15 year old, wtf.

Spanish is spoken more.

>>74186910
ok, he often say something like "carrai" which i translated to canaillou
>canaillou
ok i understand why you think our langage is gay

>>74187059
>Carai
If it's carai, he's probably Brazilian.

We usually say "caralho" which means dick, but it's just the go-to expletive used for emphasis (much like the English "Fuck")

French

Always choose the white language over the non-white language

>>74187131
yes Carai, with the rolling r. and i realsied he's really mean kek

>>74187229
chicano

>>74187229
>t. chicano on denial

>>74166398
This

>>74166366
they are basically the same compared to english

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>>74166366

>>74166366
Rioplatense Spanish :P

>>74189419
How is French and Spanish the same? Don't be a moron.

They have nothing in common

>>74192359
Both are lazy forms of Latin: one with more German, the other with more Arabic.

>>74184355
>valley girl
French sounds like God's angel speaking to you ear

Spanish sounds like a priest giving a sermon

Portuguese sounds like a merchant trying to sell you his fruit

Italian sounds like a Spanish homosexual trying to speak French

french is the best i think

>>74192541
hjksajksajkajksjksajka

>>74192502
holup

we wuz germanic, son

probably our Frankish genes

French

I've decided to learn it over Spanish. Mostly because I don't have any interest in going to where they speak Spanish. Whereas I do with French.

>>74180029

Your soap operas are more bizarre and retarded than ours which is really, really saying something.

>>74192541

>Italian sounds like a Spanish homosexual trying to speak French

I laughed, but I disagree. Italian sounds really cool in romantic songs.

>>74192502

I don't want any brit talking about lazy forms of Latin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFxOqFRgD8o

>>74193699
I agree that Italian is awesome but to be honest sometimes they do sound "too romantic" so to speak.

To me spanish has the right amount of romanticism and seriousness, couldn't find a perfect example to show what I mean because I can't remember for the life of me some good old Spanish balads but this song was one of those that actually made me realize how beautiful the Spanish language is, even though it's sang by a Mexican emo band.

https://youtu.be/-ggd6Dk0aq4

>>74166366
objectively spanish t.b.h. simplicity is perfect.

Español
Las Europeas se mojan cuando nos escuchan hablar a nosotros

>>74166398
Both french and italians produce top tier kino which makes learning easier

>>74195175
Un kilo de mierda la canción que posteaste animal

>>74197117
Publica una vos entonces, puto, que yo no sé mucho de baladas y esas cosas.

>>74166457
The gringo

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>>74197325
Pero si tu eres el que anda con >muh feelings quieres que te lea la mente y te edite los posts río de caca? Linda la wea

>>74197507
Damn

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>>74166457
LOL of course it's gonna be revolting most illiterate idiots who have the need to go to America can't even tell the difference between roto and rompído.

Mexican Spanish from Northwest is the better watch dbz in Latino then in Spaniard and see the difference

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This discussion was solved a long time ago

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>>74197595
The Mara is wrong

>>74166457
>>74181594
Not agrred!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJqlA_HTEU8

>>74193616
>I don't have any interest in going to where they speak Spanish. Whereas I do with French.
> Goes to Paris
> Nobody speaks French
> Pure Arabic shithole

0/10

> Go to Spain
> Based

10/10

>>74187229
>France
>white
kek