How would your country do against *insert neighbor X here* in

we win everything

>>74164589
inb4 angry finns

>Russiia
>China
hmmmm

Sweden would surrender before the first shot had even been fired

Netherlands vs Belgium
>lol

Netherlands vs Germany
>lol

Netherlands vs UK
>Netherlands wins an offensive war
>Netherlands wins a defensive war
(inb4 butthurt brits saying otherwise even though its yet to happen)

Netherlands vs France
>Netherlands loses an offensive war
>Netherlands loses a defensive war

nobody would be winner in any of the cases apart from austria but then we would rebel till they collapse so they stopped trying to invade anyway

>>74164767
Let's assume we wouldn't, because in that case we would win

>>74164589

heh

>japan vs china, russia or koreas in a difensive war
win

>offensive
can't start the war in the first place

>>74164946
no war is ever offensive, you are defending yourself from the impending aggression

Army vs army we would win against everyone in a defensive war. We would have problems invading Croatia due to the modern military they have, Bulgaria due to similar strength and invading Romania is outright impossible for us due to geography , economy, resources and numbers

>>74165039
Oh forgot Hungary would be a problem both offensively and defensively, probably a bloody stalemate

>>74164589
We can btfo everyone in the general area in both offensive and defensive except maybe Indonesia.
>defensive
We'd definitely win in defensive as we have much better tech and plenty to work with, Indonesia (and most countries) really aren't equipped to invade. In fact, it's very unlikely they would even be able to reach Australia as they'd get fucked by superior navy and air force.
>offensive
I don't think we'd be successful, too many Islands and too much population. If you had some key, round-about strategy and were really lucky, then maybe but in general, probably not.

>>74164589
>sweden
>winning against norway in an offensive war
good luck occupying anything west of akershus

>>74164806
C'mon now, our military is like ten times your size

>>74164589
>60k mobilized swedish troops vs 83 mobilized norwegian troops

>>74165418
meant 83k

>>74164775
>netherlands vs uk

How exactly would you win?

Dutch: 59,300 active men, 32,200 reserve

Sea:
4 submarines (2,800t)
4 destroyers (6,050 t)
2 frigates (3,300 t)
4 patrol ships (3,750 t)
2 amphibious dock (12,700-16500 t)
1 joint support ship (27,800 t)

Air
-61 F-16
-35 F-35 ordered
-28 apache helicopters

armour:

>Prior to 2012, the army also included armoured regiments equipped with main battle tanks. One of these, the Regiment Huzaren Prins Alexander (former 3rd Hussar Regiment), was disbanded in November 2007 due to budget cuts. The other two, the Regiment Huzaren Van Sytzama (former 1st Hussar Regiment) and the Regiment Huzaren Prins van Oranje (former 2nd Hussar Regiment) were disbanded, along with the army's full armoured capability, in 2012 as a result of further cuts to the Dutch defence budget.[13]

now:
18 leopard tanks
149 CV IFVs
200 Boxer AFVs

artillery:
57 PZ2000 howitzers

vs

GB: 153,700 active, 81,850 reserve

Sea:
2 elizabeth class aircraft carriers (70,000t) (yes theyre built)
4 vanguard class submarines(15,900 t)
3 astute class submarines (7,400 t)
4 trafalgar class submarines (5,300t)
3 Amphibious warfare ships (19,500-21,500 t)
6 type 45 destroyers (8,500 t)
13 duke class frigates (4,900 t)
4 patrol (1,700 t)

Air:
81 Pavia Tornado
141 Typhoons
138 F-35 ordered
50 Apache Helicopters


Armour:
249 challenger 2 tanks (originally 403)
654 CRTV AFVs
770 Warrior AFVs
859 Bulldog AFVs

UK vs France
>win defensive
>lose offensive

UK vs Dutch
>win defensive
>win offensive

UK vs Ireland
>win offensive
>win defensive

UK vs Belgium
>win offensive
>win defensive

UK vs Spain
>win defensive
>may or may not win offensive

UK vs Greece (via cyprus)
>win defensive
>win offensive

>Poortugal
They have like 10 bullets in their entire army? Lyl.
>France
No chance at all, they have nukes and their own aerospace industry.
>Morocco
Would beat their conventional forces, no way we'd be able to occupy and subdue resistance/insurgencies.

>>74165883
won 100% of the invasions and 100% of the defensive wars so far against the uk

>>74166088
didnt portugal btfo'd you already?

>>74165343
>>74165418
Stay mad LMAO

>>74164589
We would crush you neutral pussies!

>>74165343 #
>>74165418 #
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ns8WURiW9jE

>>74164589
>Greece, Bulgaria, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan
Easy steamroll
>Iraq, Syria
Already have troops there, managed to acquire a decent swath of territory just with some armor, special ops and absolutely useless Syrian militia who deserted the moment they were engaged by ISIS
>Cyprus
Already beat once and got half the island
>Iran
Would be similar to Iran-Iraq war with a long stalemate ending in a white peace with millions dead for nothing

>>74164589
Nuke is the only true answer.

>>74166118
Cant win against an invasion if the British use rising sea water lmoa

>>74164946
Ah yes the mighty champion of receiving nukes and and carpet bombing. Japan the mighty in getting bombed.

>>74166215
>Would be similar to Iran-Iraq war with a long stalemate ending in a white peace with millions dead for nothing
Just like every other time you fought them? The Persian army would just run away into the Iranian heartland and avoid battle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman%E2%80%93Persian_Wars

Today probably worse since Iran has nukes and you don't.

>>74166174
>>74166206
>victory in offensive war
>untrained army
>using human wave "tactics"
expect heavy casualties and strong guerilla war in captured terretory

>>74166342
What I meant by stalemate was there wouldn't be a victor to that hypothetical war. Though since the Treaty of Kasr-ı Şirin (1639) there hasn't been a war between Iran and Turkey, so any conflict besides diplomatic is an almost impossibility.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Zuhab

>>74166118
Its the current year

>>74166008

>UK vs Ireland
>win offensive

top lel m8, you couldnt do it in 800 years

>>74164589
>current year
>winning an offensive war and long term occupation
ok, maybe if youre basically the same country like russia and ukraine but this doesnt work any more.

>>74166571
ireland, you cant even win a war with yourself. Your shitty island has literally never been independently united. All you micks do is fight constantly - youre practically niggers.

>>74165362
they have stronger air force. but then again our anti air systems are strong as well.

>>74166571
You dont even have fighters, or submarines, or heavy tanks, or destroyers, or frigates. It would be like invading an african country.

>>74166514
>Though since the Treaty of Kasr-ı Şirin (1639) there hasn't been a war between Iran and Turkey

Check the Wikipedia page more closely. There were four wars in the 18th century and the last one was in the 1820s.

>>74166565
>>74166589

>>74164589
Portugal
>Spain wins defensive war
>Spain wins offensive war but struggles to occupate the country
Morrocco
>Spain wins deffensive war
>Spain dominates the strait and could (permanently) take some positions in the Morroccan coastline but fails to occupate the whole country.
France (assuming nukes are used)
>lol nope
France (assuming nukes aren't used)
>Spain wins deffensive war (possibly giving away some northern parts)
>Offensive war
>lol nope
Andorra
>lol yep
UK, Gibraltar (assuming nukes are used)
>lol nope
UK, Gibraltar (assuming nukes aren't used)
>Status Quo either way unless one country goes full retarded and decides to invade the other one via amphibious assault (in 2k17 lul) with possible spanish occupation of Gibraltar (may, or may not be devolved in peace talks)

>>74164806
Finnish 19-yo reservist officer commanding his infantry platoon has more artillery at his disposal than your whole army has combined. There are hundreds of like him.

>>74165078
Technically you resisted Hungary during the Balkan front in WW2, but then again that was mostly due to Habsburg retardation

>>74165362
We have stronger air force and navy. That leaves you with the option to invade through Norrland, which is extremely cold and Takes tons of Miles to traverse until you reach the core of Sweden

Your supply Linda would end up becoming overextended

That's just dumb. Our military is trained to defend. It would suck offensive
>all these armchair generals

>>74168542
It'd take less than a day for one of our heavily mechanized battlegroups to reach outskirts of Stockholm.

we stomp everyone obviously

>>74169270
But Sweden has a good defence to prevent you from reaching it in that time

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Win all desu.

>>74169418
Yes, I took account the time needed for 4 bathroom breaks.

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>>74169517
>brazil
you jungle monkeys are still using propeller planes. Go play with the bolivians or something and leave warfare to the adults.

>>74168542
Lmao trust me your navy is shit, we found all your boats in a joint exercize in about 2 hours

Yeah your submarines are good but apparently you dont know how to use them

t. 2015/I playa del pansio

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>>74169724

:^)

>>74170130
>not a combat plane
>>74169724
>combat plane
hmmmm
do we also use the hms victory in battles? I mean, she is registered as an active ship.

Swedistan

>Actually thinks the swedish "army" would be able to defeat danes in combat.

>Vid related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBhOzRvkERc

Every neighbour: LOL
USA: LoLoLOlLOlL *NUKES UShArt*

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>USA vs Canada
Canada gets fucked
>USA vs Mexico
Mexico gets fucked

>>74170806
We'd launch our refugees towards you in war as well, watch out for the pirates

>>74171010
We have to destroy storebælt, then sink the ramshackle somali boats in the strait afterwards.

>defensive

>china
>japan
>korea(s?)

>seek help
>withdraw troops
>surrender

>offensive
>kek we don't have an army

Belarus vs Russia:
>Belarus wins a defensive war
>Belarus wins an offensive war
Belarus vs Ukraine:
>Belarus wins a defensive war
>Belarus wins an offensive war
Belarus vs Poland:
>Belarus wins a defensive war
>Belarus wins an offensive war
Belarus vs Lithuania:
>Belarus wins a defensive war
>Belarus wins an offensive war
Belarus vs Latvia:
>Belarus loses a defensive war
>Belarus loses an offensive war

>>74164634
>doubt

>>74171010
Also, weaponized aids would be a serious threat, but we would still win to reclaim clay.

>>74171296
very good post

>>74164589
Well done getting back the conscription.

You might be a nation after all. :?)

>>74164589
We were occupied by everyone of our neighbours, so we would probably lose, but come back in a decade or two.

>>74174590
We didn't get occupied by Croats at least.

>>74176181
We did though https://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neodvisna_dr%C5%BEava_Hrva%C5%A1ka

>>74176273
Damn.

>losing wars
lmoa

>>74170872
>Every neighbour: LOL
dont you boarder with China?

>>74167153
>hapsburgs
>ww2


>>74166793
He is referring to major countries

>Mexico
Win an offensive war, though it would be long, bloody, brutal, and pointless
Win a defensive war, though if the hispanics in this country side with Mexico it would be brutal
>Canada
Would win an offensive or defensive war. Force disparity is too great, though I would trust our northern neighbors to give us a hard fight if we invaded

>>74176958
the smaller you make us the more emberassing your defeats are

Vs Guatemala

Win
Win

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plz...obviously we crush Greenland, UK, Ireland, Faroe Isles, Norway, Denmark, Sweden in any sort of war....

afterall we crushed UK last three times

>>74165883
Don't forget the Belgian navy and other parts of the Belgian army are under Dutch control, the Luxembourgish army is under Belgian control and that we have special defence policies with Germany. We use German tanks in our ships and German ships are under Dutch control whereas the Dutch ground forces are under German control.

>>74164775
You're right, Germany and Belgium will never attack us and we will never attack them.

>>74177414
>implying

>>74178554
wtf how does that work

>>74166164
basically this.

but we couldn't get spain if we invaded

I'd rather just stay in the barracks until our Commander in Chief gets us some new working humvees

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>>74179933
Our countries have strong cultural ties. All four countries are on former Holy Roman Empire territory and most of us speak similar languages. We couldn't do this with France for example, because the cultural differences are just too big. I don't think an European Army would work, but this one seems effective.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yNiQrUkr8gs

>>74181837
So why don't you just

You know

>>74181837
So...whats the problem with...you know.. a king? If the countries you are joined with this closely have one

>>74177140
>Win a defensive war, though if the hispanics in this country side with Mexico it would be brutal
All those German-Americans didn't side with Germany in either world war, no?

>>74182759
d-d-daddyyy....

Mmmmhhhh

>>74182735
Should specify i meant germany, i know N has one

America Vs. Canada
>offensive win
>defensive win

I'm not even going to bother writing more things down, it's been theorized that the entire planet could attack us and we would still win in spades.

>muh vietnam

We killed over 3 million of them and lost 40,000.

We'd annihilate every enemy

>>74182935
I don't think seperate forms of government would be a problem. We still keep our own laws and each soldier has to follow the laws of his commander. Besides, our monarchs are really popular in Germany. I went to Kleve today and there were orange flags hanging everywhere.

>Baltic cunts, Belarus, Ukraine, Central Asia 'stans, Caucasus cunts, Mongolia
We occupy them in a couple days
>Finland
We occupy them in a couple weeks
>China
If defensive war, we win easily. They invade Siberia and freeze to death when winter comes. If offensive war, we don't have manpower, economy, or force projection capability to beat them without using nuke.

>>74183253
>tfw ywn see another kaiser

I'm a monarchist so i really hope the Kings of Germany return, hate republics

http://www.greatwar.nl/frames/default-kaiser.html

http://www.pionier-bataillon-13.de/Kaisergeburtstag_2009.html


at least a few still respect them

>>74183415
Realistic and probably true.

>>74183415
You forgot Norway, Poland and Best Korea :^)

Sweden would never be able to occupy Norway if it was to attack them today. The army is currently in very poor shape, and the Norwegian terrain makes it easy to defend. Oslo would easily fall though, so I suppose you could call it a victory on that fact alone.

>Serbia
Win a defensive one, not so sure about an offensive one. Maybe if the USA help out.

>Bosnia
Win a defensive one. Win as invaders cause the serbs would no doubt invade as well.

>Hungary
Win defense, lose invasion.

>Slovenia
lmao

>Montenegro
lmao

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>>74164775
>Netherlands vs UK

>>74184346
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ns8WURiW9jE

>>74183421
I think a lot of Germans would like to see the monarchy coming back. At least the Hohenzollerns are still alive.

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>>74184798
*nukes you*
heh...nothing personal kiddo

>>74185078
Soon friend, soon....

>>74185312
Back aside, that's cheating and you know it

>>74164589
Neither Sweden or Norway would win an offensive war.

>>74185946
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ns8WURiW9jE

>>74186018
Did you even watch the video you're linking?
It clearly concludes that Sweden would NOT be able to occupy Norway.

>>74185946
This is the case for all Nordic countries. We would all win defensive wars against each others and all lose offensive wars against each other (except maybe against denmark). It's a good power balance and the only one which enables long time peace and cooperation.

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>>74186169
Yup. I think Sweden and Norway would win against Denmark, but not easily.

> 61 posters and increasing
Where the hell is germany already

>>74166206
>>74186018
His videos are never accurate and fail to add in real world variables, though.
Sweden simply does not have the resources or economy to support such an invasion, even if it meant barely going into Norway.
More importantly, you wouldn't be able to deny Norway anything in the form of trading, purchasing equipment or retrieving their resources.
Norway on the other had, despite a small navy, can block Sweden almost fully due to its limited sea access.

That said, Norway wouldn't be able to invade Sweden successfully either, there's just too much land.
That is of course counting on correct usage of that land.

>>74187860
>and fail to add in real world variables
He specifically excludes them because it just adds too many variables. It's not a deep analysis my autistic friend, just a funny video.

>>74188075
>just a funny video
I wish they were funny.

>>74187860
>Sweden simply does not have the resources or economy to support such an invasion
Sweden still has a very strong army and loads of resources.
>Norway on the other had, despite a small navy, can block Sweden almost fully due to its limited sea access.
No, Sweden could simply face the norwegian blockade and lift it because of our stronger navy.

>>74188174
*economy, instead of army

>>74188174
>our stronger navy
How so?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_Swedish_Navy_ships
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_Royal_Norwegian_Navy_ships

I don't see a clear winner if Sweden struck first, are you suggesting Swedish corvettes can take on the Norwegian frigates equipped with helicopters? Both submarine fleets are capable for their size.

>>74191045
We only have 2 operational destroyers, and that's stretching it. We bought ships of the cheapest steel, from a manufacturer who can no longer provide spare parts.

Meaning 1 ship is a training ship being constantly in harbor, and the other one is immobilized due to having become a parts ship. When something breaks on ship 1 and 2, just take from ship 4.

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>>74191381
>have a trillion usd just lying about
>use your military equipment for spare parts

>>74164589
Denmark and Norway are NATO.

>>74191717
Exaclty, which is by I support FRP (Currently) and fund Nordfront on the side

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vs denmark
>win both
vs netherlands
>win both
vs belgium
>win both
vs czech
>win both
vs luxemburg
>win both
vs austria
>win both
vs switzerland
>win both
vs poland
>win defensive but stalemente offensive
vs france
>win defensive but stalemente offensive