/éire/ /eire/

kys

>>74123945
Kisses, you sweetie

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It's leaking.

>>74124221
Is it May-koh or Mah-koh?

My results from the political survey posted yesterday.

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>>74124783
Might be handy if I attached the image.

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>>74124803
Seems accurate

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>>74124846
>peace
What will you do when the civil war starts?

>>74125028
It will never start. If it did I'd sit at home and watch it happening on the internet.

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>Said just butter please
>She still puts sauce on my roll

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>>74125440
>ask for plain burger, no dressing
>get it
>absolutely covered in mayonnaise
>the fucking receipt even says no dressing
>place is too packed to bother going up again
>just eat the shitty chips and leave
Last chance I ever gave Burger King. Fucking niggers closed an actually good restaurant to open here.

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>>74127936
Why can't they just give you the burger without sauces? They have the packets next to the salt and straws

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>Fast food

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>>74125440
>asking for only butter
Why? That's gonna be dry as fuck.

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>>74128653
Butter makes it not dry and I can't stand tomato sauce, I hate the taste and stink of it

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>>74128772
In my experience butter is a poor lubricant in rolls. Why not mayonnaise? Nature's culinary lubricant.

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>>74128840
>mayonnaise

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>>74128874
>not being a member of the mayonnaise master race
I pity you. It's like you don't want to shorten your lifespan by coating your arteries in eggy goodness.

>>74128840
>Nature's culinary lubricant
Lewd.

Daily reminder that :Ketchup<<<<<<Everything else<Butter<Mayo<<<<<<MUSTARD

>>74128840
Hate mayonnaise to. If your food needs sauces, then it's shit

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>>74130479
>If your food needs sauces, then it's shit

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>prods taking our jobs
Quick lads, build a wall.

why do fine gael supporters get annoyed when you remind them that micky collins wanted a united and gaelic ireland?

>>74132250
That meme isn't even funny when ironic

How many of you are or have been on the dole and if so what's it like, did you ever go to those meetings?

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>>74132409
>Northern Ireland """""""""""""""""talent"""""""""""""""""

>>74132731
You can really annoy them if you say Michael Collins had no connection with Fine Gael.

>>74124396
romanised japanese is very phonetic so mah-koh

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>>74133200
black twitter is the new avant-garde of memes
chans are the dying old man of the internet. the only thing that could revitalise them is the death of 4gag

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>>74130479
>then it's shit
I don't exactly buy filling station chicken fillet rolls for an avant-garde culinary experience.

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>>74124396
Mah-koh. That's the way Ryuuko says it.

>>74132409
>so called business people
What exactly is attempting to imply? Is this like the "so-called experts" meme from the Brexit referendum?

>wee county
>unironically using the word "wee"

>>74136675
>he doesn't go to his local ,vegan, gluten free, soy free, antibiotics free, raw, non GMO, organic, fat free, low carb ,gas station .
3rd world tier

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Doing anything tonight lads

>>74136930
I can't remember the last night I had plans.

>>74132409
>Northern Ireland could suffer a brain drain
>implying there's brain to drain

>>74136675
Gas station food is basically fast food but cheaper

>>74136983
>>74136871
>gas station
Yanks detected.

>>74137019
Petrol station?

>>74137019
That would explain why I can't get my tenses and prepositions right

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>>74137134
Better. Personally I think Filling Station is most accurate though.

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>>74137197
No need to be so autistic over it m8

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>>74137233
I'm not. "Gas station" is yank-tier though - autism or no autism.

>>74137233
Especially since he's wrong, it's ALWAYS "petrol station" and never anything else and anyone who doesn't abide by my strict laws of acceptable Irish terminology is completely and utterly un-Irish.

>>74136930
Washing dishes in a filthy chip shop

>>74137767
At least you have a job

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>>74138013
It's not worth it. Stay on the dole.

People from Nigeria are more Irish than people who are from Dublin

>>74138931
Nigeria has a nice flag.

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>>74123290
>open 4chan
>homepage
>see popular threads
>see pic of Data
>open it thinking this is the /trek/ thread on /tv/
>tfw it isn't
>tfw it's just the irish
>tfw I don't have a pic of sad Data to post, only smug Data

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>>74139085
EESTI
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>>74139204
s-same

Is /int/ faster than usual lately?

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>>74141424
Not that I've noticed. Just one of those lazy Thursdays.

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>>74141548
>it's already Thursday
>April's almost over
>little over a month until the halfway point of 2017

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>>74141705
>little over a month until the halfway point of 2017
So lads, how goes the progress on those 2017 goals?

Especially the "gf 2017" lads.

>>74141796
My goal was to get a job and make money. I haven't done either. I haven't been enjoying myself much either. I shudder to think what I'll be like come Christmas.

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>>74141796
>gf
>2010+7

What Irish newspapers are worth subscribing to?

Please respond
Please respond
Please respond

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>>74141976
>I shudder to think what I'll be like come Christmas.
Much like last Christmas? We come here to complain about how miserable we all are.

>>74133440
What meetings? The case officer ones?

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>>74142177
Last Christmas I was still pretending to be in college and I thought getting a job would be easy.

>>74136930
Would love too but I have the Flu and its pure thumping me around

How is a place called that sells fuel for gas vehicles?

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>>74141796
My goals are to get a GF and a job

Got the GF

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>>74142531
>Last Christmas I was still pretending to be in college
Pretending to yourself or to others?

>>74142600
>gas vehicles?
Do such things even exist? Even Hydrogen powered cars store it in liquid form.

>>74142554
>have a headache
>brother's playing music downstairs
It's not even that loud it's more the songs itself that annoy me. God I hate Mumford and Sons.

>>74142658
Yes, there are natural gas vehicles. We have some gas powered buses here for instance.

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>>74142632
>Got the GF
Having ascended to normiedom, why are you still here?

>>74142749
I come here when I'm bored. Still a NEET

>>74142658
Others. I got dropped in every day, then went straight to the computer room and fucked around for hours. I felt guilty for skipping classes at first but then months went by and no one tried to contact me or called me out on it so I started feeling more justified. If they were too stupid to not notice me then fuck them.

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>>74142736
Ah, I've heard of those. I imagine they do indeed refuel at gas stations.

>>74142813
>girl being interested in a NEET
It's just like one of my animes!

>>74142883
>If they were too stupid to not notice me then fuck them.
It's college - they're not obliged to care whether you attend lectures or not.

>Watch video on North Korea
>They go to an electronics shop
>Buy a Kim-Jong-Intel
>Anime background picture

>>74142936
>It's college - they're not obliged to care whether you attend lectures or not.
I know people that had the college call their parents when they skipped a few days and yet they didn't notice me gone for a whole term. And my mother didn't know despite drooping me in, collecting me and asking me about my day every day.

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>>74143189
>I know people that had the college call their parents when they skipped a few days
That's fucking weird.

>>74143231
Not just in my college either, my cousin was in Limerick and they did it to him. Maybe they only care about first years.

>>74143189
>>74143295
That was how my parents discovered my brother hadn't been attending classes in months. They phoned to check if he was still enrolled. Naturally they were under the impression he was studiously attending every day. He wound up failing the next exams and dropping out.

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Really makes you think.

>>74144763
Is this your way of telling us you're into planes now?

thursday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDzMRF0W7Dk

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>>74144881
I've always had loads of plane photos. But all planeslut anime/manga are shit, so they can't compete with boats.

>>74144881
Planes are nothing more than air-cars anyway

>>74144763
Wow, China is able to match all the other countries put together.

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>>74145078
By shamelessly copying them, sure. Although admittedly some of the "copied" Soviet designs were replicated with at least partial Soviet permission.

>>74145224
No copyrights in war.

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>>74145311
Not being able to produce original ideas can be a serious handicap when in a state of total war.

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i just saw this on r9k is it true?

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>>74145364
Which is why they keep all their original designs in their secret bases. The whole "China can't into originality" is a meme they invented to throw off westerners. Same with the one child policy, China's close to 3 billion right now.

>>74145364
Bet I'd be a better military commander than you

>>74142504
those you have to go with a bunch of other people telling you what sites to use and how to get a job and all that shite, if that's what they're called sure.

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>>74145666
Probably.

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>>74145666
Could you lovingly care for all your ships?

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*Walks towards you*

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>>74145836
*hides*

>>74145836
*walks out of the room* *runs when he's outside*

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>>74145920
*pursues you*

>>74145960
*steals a bike* *leaves with lighting speed*

*puff* *puff* I'm sure he isn't behind me anymore. *puff*

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>>74146117
Think again.

Who is that lad anyway?

>>74146202
It's me

>>74146152
*steals a car GTA style* *drives away*

>>74146202
It's me.

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AA here AMA
pic related its juniper

He can't be faster than a car.

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>>74146305
*pulls you over*
Excuse me sir you seem to have been speeding.

>>74146370
>police

westbrit

>>74146343
Why are you such a faggot?

>>74146343
What do you think of the Irish terrorist enabler arrested today?

>>74146310
I am you

>>74146414
I have aspergers.
>>74146439
Who was it? I didn't hear other than there was some arrests. I think he should have been arrested. Not the first time there have been terrorists arrested in the south east if my memory serves me correctly.

>>74146370
H-hi sir, I was afraid you could murder me. *climbs the wall* *hides in a bush on the other side of the wall*

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>>74146628
You came to the wrong back garden fucko.

alright lads
whats the craic

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>>74146628
*see's bulge* Whats this? OwO

>>74146659
As you can tell from the state of the thread, not much.

>>74146504
>using MY mental disorder to excuse your faggotry

>>74146656
>>74146670
*grabs a rope that a friend who suddenly appears in helicopter has lowered*
*flies away*

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>>74146710
>using MY
Okay.

Also faggotry is a a vague term. Use better vocabulary and stop being so tsun for me.

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>>74146800
*boards plane*

The absolute state of this thread right now.

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>>74146824
>Okay.

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>>74146699
awful lot of mr boyle posting it seems

>>74146953
hows your sister niall?

>>74146925
*arrives with friend at a cave that has labyrinthine corridors*
He will never find us here.

>>74146996
What's wrong with you now?

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>this thread

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>>74147084
Lad, what did I say about calling me that?

>>74147282
tell her i said she'd get it

>>74147280
>BOO HOO I'M FROGGY AND EVERY POST I DON'T APPROVE OF IS WRONG AND I HATE IT AND FUCK YOU

>>>
>>
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>>74147419
Hmm. Yes, I will tell my non-existent sister you want to shag her.

>>74147282
Are you the lad who repeated the LC in the private college?

>>74147280
Did Kongou shove hers in her other holes? ;)

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>mfw eire

>>74147484
"no"

>>74123290
i've been with a girl for past 5 years and two months ago started an affair with a friend of two years

i know in my mind that dumping the first one is the stupidest thing possible, but i no longer feel anything looking at her and instead spend nights with heartaches about second

what should i do /eire/

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>>74147507

>>74147476
I want to shag your non-existent sister.
Know tell me what the fuck is going on in that webm?

>>74147484
>repeated the LC in the private college
How does this work? You just sit the test there or what?

>>74147599
American children suffering from autism because of vaccines. Many such cases! Sad!

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>>74147563
time to do some self reflection anon
you need to think what you're looking for in the future
if you see a good future without her then maybe its time to leave. If not then its time to dump the whore and tell her never to speak of it again

>>74147563
Move somewhere else in Belaruse, start your life again.

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>>74147599
>How does this work?
You go back and spend the last year in a private school. Not just sit the test there.

>>74147563
>boo hoo I have TWO gfs

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>You will never be pretty or feminine.
>You will never be a girl.
>You will always be a disgusting man.

>>74147705
five years is a lot of baggage and memories. lately (past year) the first was having a lot of depressive and neurotic episodes. it was taking a toll on me and the affair kind of happened while i talked about my problems with her. ever since then we haven't even gotten intimate again, we just share shifty looks when we see each other and text how the situation hurts us both. i need to find a solution fast or otherwise i'll go crazy.

in most likeliness i'll dump the first and the social backlash will probably cause my relationship with the second to not last long, but that's how the life goes i guess.

>>74147873
You can if you want. Girls are social constructs.

>>74147904
ewa sonnet is a ride

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>>74147873
>wanting to be a 3D hoor

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>>74147873
fuck off pseudo tranny

>>74147950
Social constructs are spooks.

>>74147873
I still maintain I would've made a better looking woman than most women.

supposed to be getting 15 mbps with Sky and I'm getting 3

>>74148059
can't even get the internet

why did the japs steal mikados?

>>74147904
sounds like you made up your mind already then

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>>74147873
Anyone use that face app thingy?
Take a photo and see what you look like as a woman.

>>74148059
Have you 4G in your area?

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Holy shite. I just realised Jaggy hasn't played Smash Bros online with me in THREE YEARS.

>>74147844
heh, at this point i'd rather have none. grass gets greener

>>74147963
check out beata tadla for another polish "mummy"

>>74148142
i guess i did, but it doesn't help.

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>>74148152
>Anyone use that face app thingy?

>>74148087
what network you with? I'm fed up with how slow it is. Took me an hour to download a one fucking gigabite update on steam today

>>74148152
Sometimes I get 4G and sometimes 3G
just depends

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>>74147950
Tried but will won;t be able to face the rejection and backlash I would get from everybody. It would be a super long and difficult process and I don't think it would benefit me much.
>>74147998
>pseudo tranny
Whats this compared to non pseudo trans person?Something upset you Juniper? You're not even a little bit feminine like I am.
>>74148152
Would rather not download malware like that onto my phone. It doesn't look great anyway.

>>74148152
i used it. It doesn't make you look like anything accurate. Just brightens your hair and eyes and gives you long hair

/abhorrent/

>>74148277
>Juniper
will you skype cunts ever FUCK OFF

>>74148247
>Took me an hour to download a one fucking gigabite update on steam today
I remember downloading an expansion once, connection got so bad it was measuring bytes. Said it would finish downloading in 20 days. Ended up taking almost two hours.

>>74148362
t. Juniper

kinda hoped someone had a similar experience, but oh well. i'll finish the drink and go to bed, the jew expects me tomorrow.

g'night lads, always nice coming here. i really feel like irish are the closest anglos to polish

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>>74148247
Might be worth looking into getting the €20 unlimited data plan from Three. Depending on where you are in your house the type of connection can differ. 3G may also be faster than the 3 you are getting with Sky.
I tether my phone and use it anytime I want to download something large. Speed varies between 8 and 50.

>>74148277
>malware
Ya, I wouldn't want the developers having my photo anyway.

>>74148244
Don't know the name of it.

>>74148352
Post pics ;)

>>74148441
Juniper and the rest of us name-fags was a thing long before skype you thick cunt.

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>>74148479
>i really feel like irish are the closest anglos to polish
>irish are anglos

>>74148277
What appeals to you about being a girl? Thinking the grass is greener on the other side is pretty normal but it probably wouldn't change your life in a big way.

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>>74148479
>kinda hoped someone had a similar experience
>i really feel like irish are the closest anglos to polish
>anglos

>>74148277
You're not a woman. Don't try to be one.

>>74148565
He's not gonna eRP with you you fucking queer.

>>74148565
>wouldn't change your life in a big way
>never need job
>sex whenever you want
>inherently more innocent in all legal matters
>get free things

>>74148521
dont care fuck off

>>74148545
sorry :D. the term is celts? i'm no good with history to be honest

>>74148590
i'm semi-drunk, cut me some slack.
and the second remark still holds, i've met some of yous here. really similar outlook on life and the like.

>>74148499
>Might be worth looking into getting the €20 unlimited data plan from Three.

this interests me

>>74148499
>Post pics ;)
nah someone itt said that he lived in the town beside me before and I went to school there

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Reminder that you all got mad at me just for posting an image of a cute Irish lass. Look at the absolute state of these threads now.

>>74148685
>cute
>Irish
And lass is highly debatable.

>>74148630
You just want to be desired then

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>>74148655
I'm sure the data plan might be useful for you if you use something other than the Clover app on your phone.

>>74148565
Purely a looks and physical body thing. I strongly dislike being male and everything related to men/masculinity. Totally off putting. It's a bit more detailed than that but I cannot be assed explaining. Gender dysphoria as a sliding scale is pretty self explanatory
>>74148602
Did I say I was going to try be one? No.
>>74148612
>>74148634
Stop being so sour juniper.
>>74148630
Most retarded comment I've read all day.

>>74148732
Yes. Yes I do.

>>74148731
She is a 6/10 and cute.
Her mum is Irish and so is her dad.
She is a she(female)

don't respond to niall

>>74148799
He's only the 2nd worst poster right now.

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>>74148823
Gee I wonder who wins the worst poster award.

>>74148651
>i'm no good with history to be honest
its not really about history. Its like if i called poles Germanic instead of slav

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Getting real tired of being called this name, lads.

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HAPPENING

>>74148750
Apparently lots of people with autism are more likely to feel less like their birth sex, it's just a symptom of autism, not dysphoria

>>74148918
cannae wait for ireland to be bankrupted by the reunion and all the foreigners to leave

>>74148877
Alri Carlos

>>74148877
Shut it Cameron.

>>74148970
>foreigners out!
>lets welcome in 1.8m Northern Irish
It would thankfully never pass a referendum.

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>>74148983
Chinga tu madre, cabron.
>>74148999
oi m8, lookin' to av your head glassed

>>74149054
yeah but they're literally Irish and not foreign
Good chunk even have irish passports

>>74149054
No less foreign than Dubs.

>>74148869
you wouldn't be that far off, silesians and danzigians are really germfied. not to mention the amount of german intellectuals that just had polish citizenship when we were multiculti-lite

>>74149054
They aren't all foreigners.

>>74148936
Contradicting yourself there. Your random tidbits of information mean nothing.

Anyway g'night lads. Oh and juniper ill be thinking about you in my dreams.

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>>74149054
>It would thankfully never pass a referendum.
Looks like you might need to move soon West Brit.

>>74149076
>>74149118
Congrats Niall, you've been defaulted to #1 worst poster.

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>>74149215
>#1 worst poster.

>>74149215
You're the worst.

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>>74149054
>It would thankfully never pass a referendum
West Brits just can't hide their contempt for a United Ireland because of "muh monies!"

Find it amusing how the right wing self confessed anti Sinn Féin brigade are still invested to the Sinn Féin propaganda narrative that has existed in this state since the civil war.

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>>74149537
>you have to be a Sinn Féiner to support a United Ireland

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>>74149304
>West Brit
>Objecting to importing nearly 2m Brits

>>74149675
Living in British terrority =/= being British

By your logic every Irish person was British until a few decades ago.

>>74149675
Most people who live there are entitled to an Irish passport if they want it.

>>74149737
>>74149787
The same passports Nigerians have here which you refuse to recognise as proof of Irish identity?

>>74149651
Not him, but they are the only ones really fighting for it. Sort of a difficult position to be in, you prefer FG/FF policies but you want a UI.
Don't know if I would criticise someone for supporting SF, as long as that is their reason for supporting them.

>>74149864
Passports don't make you Irish.

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>Irish passports don't make you Irish
>Nordies are Irish because they can get Irish passports
Even as somebody who supports a United Ireland, this is an interesting quandary.

>>74149737
They were though since they were British citizens

>>74149651
The notion that someone is a west Brit if they don't conform to a specific form of Irish nationalism is due to SF though.

It's been hijacked into the Irish self concept and everyone is indoctrinated into it and that is due to SF. You're supporting their party propaganda and you don't even know it. So yes, you're a Sinner.

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>>74150097
Being opposed to a United Ireland is definitely West Brit behaviour though because you are supporting British occupation of part of the Island of Ireland. It couldn't be more blatant and it's got nothing to do with Sinn Féin propaganda.

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>>74150032
It wasn't the same poster who said that, I mentioned the first one about the passports, someone else said they don't make you Irish, it is a problem though. Thinking about it if you were raised on the island and integrated into Irish society reasonably well if you're a second or third generation immigrant you can possibly consider yourself Irish, I'll probably get some shit for saying the second part.

>>74150097
>British citizens
Being a citizen does not make you a cultural identity. My grandfather was an American citizen but he wasn't an American.
You're argument doesn't hold up for dual-citizenship either.

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https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/pair-arrested-in-waterford-on-suspicion-of-islamic-terrorism-1.3063841


STATE of your Nigerian shitheap

>>74150265
>It couldn't be more blatant and it's got nothing to do with Sinn Féin propaganda.

Like I already said that notion is due to the SF narrative since the civil war.

By your logic the 70%+ or so of people who voted for the treaty were west brits.

You're just proving me right when I mentioned a particular notion of Irishness was hijacked by SF and it's indoctrination into everyone. It's an historical fact.

>>74150032
A feeling within, of belonging, dignity, pride, the culture is carried in the heart. The question of identity isn't a new one.

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>>74150535
Diversity is our strength.

>>74150535
do you really want us to link stuff about the uk and islam?

>>74150535
>your
Pretty sure you live in Ireland too.

>>74150383
I never mentioned a cultural identity. They were born in the UK and were legally UK citizens and historically every citizen of the Empire was considered British.

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>>74150753

Northern Ireland is a separate country you stupid taig

>>74150769
We're talking about cultural identity.

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>>74150623
>Like I already said that notion is due to the SF narrative since the civil war.
Just because SF believe in a certain narrative, that doesn't mean they own the narrative - especially when it's this broad of a narrative. You're using this SF accusation as an attempt to discredit those who support a United Ireland. As far as I'm concerned, being actively opposed to a United Ireland in this day and age is unforgivable as a citizen of Ireland. Yes, that's an ideological argument, but then of course of irredentist movements are ideological in nature due to their association with nationalism.

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>>74150797
>country

>>74150851
*all irredentist movements

I think the actual shitposting shitposting was less shitposty than this shitposting.

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>#iamirish


Modern taigs in a nutshell.

>>74150851
I'm not trying to discredit anyone.

Your knowledge of Irish history is poor. It definitely started with the Anti-treaty Sinn Féin and like I said has been perpetuated ever since as the standard of "being Irish".

Like you mention yourself, it's so deep seeded you don't even know it, to the point it's unacceptable to you. It's the "proper way" to be Irish.

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>74150976
whats that
also get some new images. sick of seeing the same recycled shite every time you post

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Civic Nationalism is a great thing

>>74151034
>more blacks
>more dogs
>more irish
wish people would stop this meme. Its already been disproven that the irish were seen as "black" in America

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>>74150991
>Your knowledge of Irish history is poor
Supporting a 32-county Ireland pre-dates the civil war. Did the leaders of the 1916 Rising fight for a 26-county Ireland? So of course supporting a united Ireland is the standard of "being Irish". And it's an idea that predates "Anti-treaty Sinn Féin".

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>>74151086
>one white person
where did it go so wrong

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>>74151115
I'd approve of more Irish dogs.

>>74150991
>It definitely started with the Anti-treaty Sinn Féin and like I said has been perpetuated ever since as the standard of "being Irish".
It started with them then because that's when partition started, the aim of independence was to eventually get all 32 counties, anti treaty wanted it all at the time. My history is pretty shit too, but that anti treaty side mostly became Fianna Fail, and the current Sinn Fein started in the 70s after other similar groups which formed like Clann na Poblachta before then.

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>>74151153
Around the time we became a wealthy country.

>>74151120
>So of course supporting a united Ireland is the standard of "being Irish".

Ah yes, the ENTIRETY of our national identity just so happens to conform to the ATSF nationalist narrative.

Really made me think.

>>74151086
pictures like this make me wonder why we bothered fight the british and still stubbornly deny we're anything like them

>>74151197
>Ah yes, the ENTIRETY of our national identity just so happens to conform to the ATSF nationalist narrative.
Pro treaty wanted a united Ireland too, they just saw the 26 Irish Free State as a stepping stone towards that, I think that still stands that most people in the 26 would support a reunification provided the 6 also wanted it.

You can only be Irish if you're an Irish nationalist.

Quite a pathetic, I'd say tenuous, identity we have if that is all it is.

Shoorley ders moar ta bein Oirish dan dis ??

>>74151188

The EU then.

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>>74151197
>Ah yes, the ENTIRETY of our national identity just so happens to conform to the ATSF nationalist narrative.
Nobody said anything about the entirety of our identity being based on the idea of a United Ireland. But as an idea, it predates ATSF - they merely adopted it. Hence it's possible to believe in a United Ireland et al, yet not be doing so merely as an adherent to the ATSF narrative.

>>74151302
We were an EU member state for 20 years before we became wealthy to be fair.

>>74151282
My point is about our national identity and it's hijacking by ATSF and the perpetuation of a certain narrative to this day along those lines by national nationalist groups.

The anti treaty aspect is just one of those and is where historically this narrative began.

I hate seeing niggers and brownies around town. Same with slavic fuckers smoking in the allies and zpeaking their dizguzting language.

>>74151366
>We were an EU member state for 20 years before we became wealthy to be fair.
What is the 60s?

>>74151433
brave new Ireland lad
best get used to it because this will be the century where whites will become minorities in their own countries

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>>74151544
An improvement, but we definitely weren't wealthy by any stretch of the imagination.

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>>74151425
>My point is about our national identity and it's hijacking by ATSF and the perpetuation of a certain narrative to this day along those lines by national nationalist groups.
Interesting. Could them hijacking the identity be because they were far more active in trying to get a united Ireland after the civil war, while the pro treaty side were waiting for the best possible or more realistic moment to reunite? Or is there something else I'm missing.
>The anti treaty aspect is just one of those
What else has hijacked the national identity, I'd like to know what else has.

>>74151366
You're mistaken me. It's not about a united Ireland but the narrative surrounding it, that if you don't support it you're a west Brit and it's unacceptable as you said.

This says two things about you.

1. You don't think people are Irish unless they support a united Ireland.

2. You've been indoctrinated into the narrative, understandable as it's ubiquitous in Irish society.

And that narrative, of either conform to this particular idea or you're very much not irish entered irish society and culture at that time from the ATSF narrative and it's descendants.

Think you just have a presentist view of this which is why you're unable to comprehend it, which is also understandable.

>>74151822
The west brit thing is chiefly a meme.

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Vincent Browne is gone very bad. Still alright craic.
Talking tonight about Brexit, us threatening to leave the EU and that Communist Eoin Ó Murchú is on about moving the border to the Irish sea.

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>>74151822
>You don't think people are Irish unless they support a united Ireland.
Pretty much, yeah. At the very least, it calls your loyalty to the country into question.

>You've been indoctrinated into the narrative, understandable as it's ubiquitous in Irish society
By your logic, every element of our national identity is just a symptom of indoctrination.

>And that narrative, of either conform to this particular idea or you're very much not irish entered irish society and culture at that time from the ATSF narrative and it's descendants
As I've said, I disagree with this assertion.

>Think you just have a presentist view of this which is why you're unable to comprehend it, which is also understandable.
Don't act so self-righteous and arrogant - it's unbecoming.

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>>74152085
Those who swear allegiance to Brussels are less Irish than those who don't.

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>>74151998
>us threatening to leave the EU and that Communist Eoin Ó Murchú
Was the commie the only one they found who wanted us to leave? Who else was on the show?
>is on about moving the border to the Irish sea.
Pretty sure you can't do that, I think the border only goes to 12 km then you're in international waters. Lough Foyle will be a mess though, as the UK want to claim all of it as theirs. Carlingford Lough might not be as bad though, that's more defined I think.
>>74152171
Good post.

>>74152171
I identify as European because it's 2017 :)

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>>74152171
Those who betray their ancestors in not seeking the destruction of the Saxon state are less Irish than those who do.

>>74152085
I wasn't trying to be self-righteous or arrogant. I'm sorry if I came off that way.

You just admittedly agree with a certain set of criteria for what it is to be Irish, but those notions didn't always exist, i.e. what it is to be Irish didn't always revolve around a specific nationalist narrative.

And, in my opinion, where these criteria first appear as dogma is around and after the Anglo-Irish treaty and civil war.

If you disagree then fair enough.

>>74152230
>commie the only one they found who wanted us to leave
More or less. Vincent was saying we should threaten to leave in order to get a better deal.

>Who else was on the show
Michelle Mulherin, Collette Browne (IT journalist?) and some other guy.

>>74152322
English treatment of Ireland can be considered revenge for Irish pirates raiding the British coast for centuries, taking thousands as slaves and Gaelicising northern Britain.
If you think about it we're just perpetuating the cycle of hatred.

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>>74152322
The EU is becoming a Saxon state you fool, it's ruled by the Saxons, you must oppose them too as well as Britain.
>>74152434
>Vincent was saying we should threaten to leave in order to get a better deal.
Good man Vincent.

>>74152526
We apparently had decent relations with the Saxons prior to the Normans.

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>>74152547
What a shit rabbit.

>>74152526
As long as they continue to spite us by occupying a part of our country, there will always be a degree of distrust and animosity.
It is up to them to make amends at this stage.

>>74152573
Because we were raping them to death. If the Normans never came the rest of Britain would've been culturally absorbed by us like we did to Scotland.

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>>74152598
Now you're being silly.

>>74152526
>taking thousands as slaves
They were responsible for the deaths of millions and were responsible for leaving us as an economic backwater for centuries.

>Gaelicising northern Britain
Meanwhile they destroyed our language and forced their religion on all of our people.

>>74152668
Well we shared insular art and Celtic Christianity until the synod of Whitby.

Diarmuid McMurrough looking for political asylum and military aid in England was a continuation of a long tradition of Saxon nobles coming here for the same purpose.

>>74152747
>They were responsible for the deaths of millions and were responsible for leaving us as an economic backwater for centuries.
As I said, revenge.

>forced their religion on all of our people
And we came out of it more Catholic.

>>74152914
Ehh... Ironically enough, they forced Catholicism onto us.

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>>74152598
I'll fucking fight you lad.

>>74152914
You equate enslaving a few thousand well over a millennium ago to the death and suffering of millions over the course of the last few centuries?

>>74153157
Yes.

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>>74153208

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Day 3 of NoFap.