What's the deal with slavs?

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we are pretty chill come visit

>>73993429
Will I get mugged if I'm White?

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>>73994173
>if I'm White

>>73993363
>asks about Slavs
>posts picture about Russians
hmmmmmm

I'm Greek

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>>73993363
>>73994217
Here, catch another one.

Slavs and balts cinfuse the hell out of me. Why aren't romania and moldova slavic? Why are czech and slivaks slavic? What makes balts different than slavs? Why is estonia not nordic if they are ethnically closer to finns?
t. brainlet

>>73993363
they're the most powerful race in the world

>>73994287
> Why aren't romania and moldova slavic?
Because they speak Romance languages
>Why are czech and slivaks slavic?
Because they're ethnicallt Veneti, just like Poles and speak Slavic languages?
> What makes balts different than slavs?
Language and Ugric genes.
>Why is estonia not nordic if they are ethnically closer to finns?
Finland and Estonia aren't nordic.

>>73994361
ethnically*
dumb phone

also
>inb4 butthurt Finns
You're as nordic as Russia.

>>73994361
>Finland and Estonia aren't nordic.
Sorry to break you're bubble Władysław Wróblewski but funland is officially nordic because it sits on the nordic council.

>>73994287
>Why aren't romania and moldova slavic?
They are. They simply speak some Latin mumbo-jumbo by accident.
>Why are czech and slivaks slavic?
Because they are.
>What makes balts different than slavs?
Genetically they aren't but they speak the Balto in Balto-Slavic languages.
>Why is estonia not nordic if they are ethnically closer to finns?
Because gommunism.

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>>73994424
so you are germanic now?

>>73994202
t. t*rk

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>>73993363
Subhuman genetics

>>73994173
Yes, slavs hate white people because they're jealous

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>>73994217
yes?

>>73994287
>Why aren't romania and moldova slavic?

Because some of the Roman population of the Balkans survived the Slavic invasions, actually broing it up with the Slavs (when not subjected to slavery by law like in medieval Serbia), helping establish the Second Bulgarian Empire, and eventually managing to colonise a place for themselves in the middle of the Slavic sea.

>Why are czech and slivaks slavic?

Because the Germans and Hungarians never managed to reduce the core Slavic population of those lands, which is largely due to the Hussites and Protestantism.

>What makes balts different than slavs?

A 3000 year old language split of a single group of people into the more innovative Slavic languages and the more conservative Baltic languages. Lithuanian has many features in common with Latin, Greek and Slavic languages all at once.

>>73996517
>Second Bulgarian Empire
I had no idea this was a thing
>>73994361
>>73994437
Thanks you guys

Slavs, particularly Croatians, Bulgarians and Hungarians, are literally the most beautiful, kindest, and most hard working people there are. Much preferred to fat, lazy, disgusting burgers and muslim, crooked teeth brits.

>>73997190
>Croatians, Bulgarians and Hungarians
>slavs

>>73997190

Though I actually don't know if Bulgarians are slavs or Thracians, and if Hungarians are Slavs or Turkics.

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>>73997125

It was pretty damn big.

>>73997208
Croatians and bulgarians are southern slavs.

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>2017
>Doesn't smoke cigarettes

Are you bullied, mentally handicapped or both?

>b-but it kills you

And? Was life a contest about who lives the longest?

>it's addicting!!!

It's not, as long as you're not under-aged and you can smoke in moderation

>it's....IT'S EXPENSIVE!!!

Who forces you to buy a pack every day, fucking peat-gavel

>>73997452
wtf?

>>73993363
Why is Poland so much better than rest of the slavs?

>>73996391
>inb4 "R1a is not slavic!!!!"

>>73997190
>tfw someone says nice things about your cunt on 4chins

rare feel tbqh

>>74000000
>>73999999

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>>73996391
>>74000274
R1a has a lot of subclades.
If you don't understand any of it, don't bother using it as argument.

>>73994385
>You're as nordic as Russia
This is unironically true, not even the Westernmost Finns are closer to Swedes than Russians.

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>>74002935
Stop posting your shit map, less than 2% of Finnish R1a is Scandinavian!

>>73994173
yes, we hate niggers

>>74003266
Or rather, less than 2% of our total Y-DNA (with R1a in total making up about 7%).

>>74003266
>>74003308
Yeah and?

It shows placement not number of it. R1a in Finland HAS to be of Scandianvian origin, there can't be any other way.

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>>74003331
>R1a in Finland HAS to be of Scandianvian origin
Wrong, it has been proven that the vast majority of it came from the East with early Indo-Europeans.
>It shows placement
Very poorly placed when even in the West Coast R1a-M558 is the majority.

>>74003463
My bad then.

The picture I posted is still good for confusing retards that think all of R1a is Slavic.

>>74003575
Paint over the Southwest and most of the West Coast as purple and I'll have no problem with it.

Have eastern European countries achieved anything at all?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia#Natural_increase_current

I'm glad it's over.

>>74003575
If all R1b is considered Germanic/Celtic, then all R1a can be considered Slavic

>>73994361
Tell me about Veneti

>>74005765
Whats over?

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>>74007179
>If all R1b is considered Germanic/Celtic, then all R1a can be considered Slavic
R1b isn't Germanic.
>>74007799
Here, I'll explain. Don't get butthurt about 'Poland this Poland that' Genetically we're brothers.

Okay, here it goes:

>2800BC: During Corded Ware Expansion, Kurgan people with haplogroup R1a-M458(to this day M458 is present in big % in Poland) come to Poland, they're later known as Vistula Veneti/Wends. Rest of the Kurgan people(both R1a and R1b) go to Scandinavia and take control over paleolithic l1 cro-magnons, give them IE language and war-like culture, that mixture of R1b, R1a Kurgans and l1 native paleothic hunter-gatherers creates Germanics.

>During late Iron Age:
East Germanics enter territory of the Vistula Veneti(currently not known if by force, or just as migrants/refugees) And they start to assimilate Veneti and Veneti(in some sense) assimilate them(in this case, genetically, through germanic women breeding with Veleti men) How do we know this? Vandals burned their dead, but not all of them could, through migration to Italy and Sardinia Vandal male lineages were found to be R1a-M458, which is the most common among Vistula Veneti at that time.

>Much later Goths that go to Ukraine meet the Proto-Slavic culture (Zarubintsy culture) and influence them, but get partially Slavicized.
>Some time later, meaning after the fall of Rome or before that, people from Zarubintsy culture rush through modern-day Polish territory and absorb East Germanics, Wends/Veleti on the way and that creates the Polish/West Slavic ethnos.

Germanic influence had a huge impact on the Polish and West Slavic ethnos. Shaping West Slavic ethnos was also isolated from Eastern one, that had huge Baltic, Scythian and Uralic influence to it. In case of the Czechs it was also Celtic tribes.

>>74007868
Thank you

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>>74007799
>>74007868
As for the Veneti, they were genetic ancestors of: Poles, Czechs, Slovaks and rest of the West Slavs.
They went almost everywhere, but the biggest number of the stayed in Central Europe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veneti
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veneti_(Gaul)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vistula_Veneti
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adriatic_Veneti

Would be a good start.

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>>74007903
You as Czechs had a lot of Celtic kick to your ethnos(that's why some of you look a little "swarthier" than some Polacks, darker hair, darker yes), same as Germans.

That's why Czechia was called "Bohemia", not only because it was "land of the God" but also because of the Celtic tribes that got assimilated by Veneti during expansion, that created Czechs,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boii

We're all West Slavshits though. Result of countless cultures, peoples mixing throughout ages.

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>>74007179
As for the R1a and R1b in Scandinavia and West Europe.

Odin himself was most likely R1a-Z284, a Kurgan Aryan war-lord from Azov region. Hence Aesir = Azowie = Azov.
R1a-Z284 and some R1b(but mostly R1a) Kurgans slaughtered former "gods" and "chieftains" of the l1 cro-magnon natives and took control of those regions, creating Germanics through fucking their women and teaching l1 men war-culture and Indo-European language.

R1b is more attirbuted to Celtic expansions rather than Germanic people. R1b-U106 which was considered "Germanic" was found out be haplogroup of the native British Britons, which were Celts not Germanics.


Hope that helps.

>>73993363
>Effects of communism: The map

>>73997190
>>73997220
Ok, I thought this was common knowledge since we're on /int/, but guess I was wrong, so let's settle this, Hungarians aren't Slavs, we have managed to avoid the faith of Bulgarian for better or worse.

>>73997247
>historic borders perfectly matching current borders
doubt.jpg

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>>74010676
they pretty much were

>>73994287
>Romania are you Latin?
>Da.

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>>73994283
While you're at it, take this revised & expanded edition.

Bad thing about being slav is that no matter where you go the girls are worse than back home

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>>74013150
I like Germanic women more..

>inb4 faggot

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>>73997190
>Croatians, Bulgarians and Hungarians
Okay, lets get this straight.

Genetically Croatians are Illyrian. They have less R1 than Hungarians which are not considered Slavic usually. We wuz l1 nordics!

Hungarians are tatars that cucked themselves of genes by fucking Slovaks until only the language was left.

Bulgarians are turks who fucked some tribe until their genes were lost and slavs came and fucked over that tribe with their dick and language.

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>>73997306
True, which in their case is native Balkan people who adopted the Slavic language from comparatively small groups of Venedic settlers from the north, after partial depopulation in the Hunnic era freed up some fertile land.

Hence why it makes more sense to refer to the original Slavic people in the ethnic sense, before heavy Finno-Ugric and native Balkan intermixing became a thing in the respective eastern and southern lands, as the Venedic people. Their descendants today would be the West-Slavic peoples, and Slovenes.

It were Venedic tribes who confederated with Iranic horse archers from the steppes, the remainder of Scytho-Sarmatian tribes before Hunnic days, who stood at the cradle of Slavic ethnogenesis.

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>>74013731
South Slavs are paleolithic people, just like Scandinavians originally.

You just got SLAV'D by R1a Kurgans.

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>>74013928
Old Euroean Farmers + Slavs, yeah.

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>>74013989
That also explains why Balkans and Scandinavia are so hairy compared to rest of Europe.

>>74002935
Note the typically Polish subclade in Sardinia (L260/M458).

The only Europeans that have colonised Sardinia next to the Romans were the Vandals (they established a kingdom there along with their allies the Alans, Iranic horse archers from the Caucasus, look at that blotch of Z2123 in the south of Sardinia and look at the Caucasus. Like clockwork).

>>74014342
It all makes sense now.

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why is Germany so enriched in Asiatic and Anatolian haploshits though?
huns?

>>74007868
>East Germanics enter territory of the Vistula Veneti(currently not known if by force, or just as migrants/refugees

Gothic lore describes that the island of Gotland, a small (~3000 km^2) island in the Baltic Sea, was getting overpopulated and it was decided that 1/3th of the population should emigrate. Those ones were chosen by fate (lot) and set sail southwards to arrive in the Polish coastal marshlands, where they settled for the next ~4 centuries, expanding land-inwards, intermarrying with the locals and becoming quite populous.

The island of Gotland today carries over 50% Y-DNA haplogroup I1*, so it may be assumed that a similar proportion of early Gothic settlers also carried. The initially a small group of emigrants after a couple of centuries was absorbed into the local Venedics, who adopted the Gothic language (at least the nobility but probably the whole tribe). When the Great Migrations came, the Goths had grown so considerably in size that it could be split up into 3 groups (Visigoths, Ostrogoths and Crimean Goths) of still very sizeable proportions.

The Burgundians have a somewhat similar story, a poem describes their origin in Burgundarholm (now Bornholm, tiny ~600 km^2 island south off the coast of Sweden), where there was a great internal feud and a part of the inhabitants got banished. They had to set sail on the southern coast in hollowed-out tree-trunks, and crossed the Baltic Sea like that. They settled on the Polish coast somewhere in the 2nd century BC.

>>73997452
>smoking cancer sticks
why not breath asbestos instead?
Has the same effect on your body and your clothes doesn't smell like a corpe afterwards

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>>74007972
pic related confirms

poland is greatest ally and best slav nation

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>>73994173
There are no white americans
>manlets
>often brown eyes and hair
>squeaky jewish voices

even spanish are whiter

>>73994283
Omg someone got murdered in Östersund? When did this happen?

>>74003208
The westernmost "finns" aren't finns. They are Swedes.

>>73993363
Whats wrong with smoking cigarettees and being poor ?

>>74000178
the teachings of vatican

>>74013731
Finland is more germanic than Germany. Wew.

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>>74017428
see >>74008142
>>74007868

Germans are very mixed.

>>74015192
>Sapmí is more germanic that Iceland

there is no cultural continuity between vandals, veneti and polacks

so keep dreaming polakshits, slavshits always steal history of others

>>74018570
>slavshits always steal history of others

as well as cars and TVs

>>74017545
So only Scandinavia can really be considered Germanic these days?

>>74018733
Nah, all countries that speak germanic language are germanic by rule.
Doesn't matter if you're a Celt, Slav or whoever genetically, if you speak germanic you're germanic.

>>74018833
That's not how it works you retard Germanics look vastly different from Slavs

Germanics
>white skin
>square jaw
>often light hair and eyes

Slav
>reddish skin
>weak jawline
>dark hair and eyes

>>74018833
Culturaly Germanic maybe, but not by blood, which is what matters

French speaking africans are not French

>>74018884
>weak jawline
wew lad
You've obviously never been in the balkans. Or do south slavs no longer count as slavic but are germanic?

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>>74018988
South slavs don't even count as human.

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>>74018924
Language and culture is what matters in this case.

Germanics were created like that >>74008142
and later this happened >>74017545

If you want to split Germanics into: Celts, Slavs and l1 Cro-magnons then there are no Germanic to begin with.
>>74018988
Ignore the retard. He lives of attention-whoring.

>>74017428
I1 isn't Germanic, it is the haplogroup of Paleo-European subhumans.

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>>74017078
Why are they as distant from Swedes as Russians, in that case? Why are they mostly I1d whilst Swedes are I1a?

>>74019198
he is just baiting you