Your opinion on islam and islamic culture, art etc?

>>73968680
All shit

Inferior

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>>73968680
They had their prime during the European Middle Ages. Lots of scientists, incredible discoveries and beautiful architecture and art - sadly they have regressed, rather than progressed from this state.

>>73968680

no such thing

>>73968745
>>73968746
really, you have your own containment board, why do you leak from there constantly?

we don't need /pol/ underage shitposting in every thread

I have confrontate feelings

Islamic and arabic culture is precious, the Al-Andalus era was the most glorious of all in terms of culture, architecture, etc. In that era, islam was equal to progress, in a dark world where all knowledge was going into the fire. Islam managed to keep most of it, and around that time, islam was equal to science, investigation, they where the equal to what the occidental civilization is today.

But that time has ended, islamic society has turned into a closed and isolated psychiatric, some part of that islam golden era still struggles, but has nothing to do around talibanic, conservative and anti-science islam, which is now a majority.

In my opinion the only thing that can save arabic culture is atheism.

>>73968680
>islam and islamic culture, art etc
Interesting in some aspect, f.e. preserving the iconoclastic ideas and stuff
>Muslims
Heat up the ovens

>>73968852
AAAAAJJJJJJafjafk el nortEÑO señores

>>73968913
>m-muh /pol/
everyone hates muslims you fucking retard

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>>73968913
>stop disagreeing with me!!!!

>>73969011
>1/7 of people on earth are Muslims
>Everyone
Begoddah! turns out you're wrong!

>polish muslim

this is a thing?

>>73969076

1/7 of people on earth are a waste of oxygen.

islamic culture is cancerous and regressive. basically it goes in cycles, the more free the country becomes, the more production of (secular) art, music, literature, cinema there is and then there's a sandnigger who's chosen to represent the people to stem this influence and make the culture more islamic. It has literally happened in every muslim country ever. there is zero stability ever

>>73968913
>What's your opinion?
[I don't like his opinion]
>Go to other place mimimimimi

That's the problem with you Muslim migrants. Europe doesn't need you in any way or form.

>>73969129
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipka_Tatars

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If you get my drift

>>73968680
Nice architecture and stories from the old times.
They are bad for many centuries now
I feel like Islam is too much restrictive religion

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>>73968680
The master religion for the alpha male desu. It is natural for the alpha Muslims to rule over beta wh*tey

they did have some pretty cool shit but they forgot how to make it for some reason

>>73968680
I'm not sure islamic culture exists, the national cultures within Islam are very interesting

the architectures and the arts are nice. the dogma and idolizing an absolute existence are dated. it should be secularized and reviewed by themselves if they wanna live in/with the first world countries. they should take the way of critical thinking anytime soon.

Belongs in the past

>>73968680
I'm sorry. It seems you misspelled "Persian"

>>73968680
>islam
is shit with some good ideas
>islamic art
that's one of the good ideas, 10/10 aesthetics

>>73968745
this
and this >>73968746

>>73968745
>>73968746
>>73969225
This is why Iran needs the nuke

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>>73969795
oh yeah this too

>>73969971
eh, Indian/Paki too

>>73968680
Horrible. Destroy it.

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>>73968680

Utterly backwards and degenerate but at least they're not cowardly back-stabbing faggots like the Western Yuropeins.

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>>73969971
ps: i seriously hope you're not calling this persian too
instead refer to this: >>73969294

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>islam is inferior

>>73969011
Except ur mom

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>>73968680
i like mena cooking
making shakshouka right now
architecture is also good
the rest is rubbish

>>73968680
In theory Islamic culture is no inferior to Western or Eastern culture(s), in theory.

In practice, modern Islamic culture is regressive, where intellectualism is shunned, close-mindness is rewarded, and work ethic does not exist.

Does not help that (in current Islamic culture) self-reflection is almost non-existant, criticism is not not tolerated, and anyone on the inside who doesn't agree with the zealous majority is seen as an enemy.

>>73971295

>(in current Islamic culture) self-reflection is almost non-existant, criticism is not not tolerated

This is probably the biggest current problem with Islam.

If they could reform there's no reason why they should be any worse than Christians let alone Jews.

Unfortunately any attempt to criticize or reform Islam is met with violence.

>>73971174
garlic is best and female circumcision

>>73971381
>female circumcision
el somaliANO señores

>>73968680
Islam fascinates me desu

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>>73971360
The problem is simply Jews invading the Middle East, under the Ottoman empire things were pretty good until the age of der juden. The current problem with the middle east is the tolerance of the west. Many nations like the ones in the gulf betray their own kind for jewish shekels. Fortuenly in Islam there is a natural tendency to not be slaves of der juden and many of them fight back against the juden, like Saddam, Gaddafi, Syria, Iran and Erdogan to some extent.

Simply having a stonger army would solve much of their problems as it would stop the jews from invading them every few years for oil and shekels.

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>>73968680
It was great until wahhabism became a thing, at which point everything went to shit.

I find the history of Islam to be quite interesting, but I hate what it has become.

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>>73971514
It does with all germans

>>73971295
>>73971360
it's called "ijtihad" and is very prominent in shia islam

>>73968680
I don't know anything about contemporary Islamic culture desu. Looks like apart from praying it is killing gays and non-Muslims. Not a very attractive concept for me.

>>73971537

>The problem with everything

Jews.

Thanks for your input, /pol/, now back to your double-digit-IQ containment zone.

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>>73971598
>>73971514
some of them are even bigger autists about sand and dirt castles than we are, jelly as fuck

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>>73971562
But it was the eternal anglo that did that, they funded and supported wahhabism because it was pro-west

>>73968680
They stole it from the Persians and Romans

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>>73971668
>the problem with the middle east isn't Jews

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>>73971677
looks like shit desu
this is a good mosque

>>73971757

>The problem with literally everything that I don't like in the entire world isn't THUUUHHHH (inhale) J0000000000s

Check my name, I've been to /pol/.

Assuming you're not just a brainwashed 12 year old "red pill" overdose victim, no, the """problems""" with the Middle East are a little bit more complicated than that.

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>>73971829
>it's not the Jews
>jews literally openly admit they want to destroy the Middle East for shekels
>it's not the Jews
The problem with the Middle East has always been Jews, from Ancient Egypt, to Rome, to today.

It's quite simple and not complicated at all if you actually understand the Jewish problem

>Jews create federal reserve
>the back their paper currency with oil, i.e the petrodollar
>this only works if all oil is sold exclusively for this Jewish paper currency
>Islamic countries do not want to sell their oil for jewish shekels
>Jews invade them
>destroy their nations and prevent them from being a threat to the Jew World Order

>>73971960

>Jews create the Federal Reserve
>Thereby triggering the Sunni-Shi'a divide that happened 500 years before that

>Israel conquers Palestine
>Thereby forcing Pakistani British people to blow up the Tube in London
>Also causing Afghan teenagers in Sweden to rape under-aged girls

/pol/ is so fucking retarded. On the bright side this line of though will inevitably lead to Muslims getting away with all their crimes, conquering Europe, and """solving""" the """"Jewish problem""""

>>73972066
there was no shia-sunni divide until recently

the caliphates were always encompassing of islam, even if it might've favoured sunnis

>>73972108

The Sunni-Shia divide literally dates back to the founding days of Islam but """"the ((((J000s))))""" had not infiltrated Hollywood back then so I guess it doesn't count.

>>73970397
Just one? I would carpet bomb them with nukes.

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>>73972066
>Sunni-Shia divide
>this is what he actually believes
The Sunni Shia, thing is nothing more than political groups in the ancient Caliphates where one wanted an elective monarchy and the other just wanted a monarchy. There is no divide here, Sunnis and Shias fight side by side against the Jews, like Iran(Sunni), Syria(half/half), Iraq, (half/half), Palestine(Sunni). What divide are you talking about? It's simply pro-Western "Muslims" backed by America/NATO/Israel vs. normal Muslims backed by Russia/China.

>Jews steal Palestine
>start destroying the Middle East
>Muslims retaliate by attacking the sources of the Jew's finance and backing
Simply killing all the Jews would solve 100% of the worlds problems, not that that in the Middle East. Of course it is natural for kikes to shift the blame onto others.

>>73972145
the shia-sunni divide did not see the sectarian violence of modern islam

this divide is much more apparent now than it was long ago

when hussain was martyred, the caliphate operated as usual

it's incredibly ignorant to think shias and sunnis have been fighting each other forever

even now, there isn't some war going on between the sects

it's just ISIS and other 0.0001% of sunnis that want to kill shias

>>73972145
There is no such thing as a Sunni-Shia divide, this is just a Jewish meme. It has no relevancy today since there is no caliphate debating on how to structure their succession.

Sunnis basically want to elect the caliph and Shias want it to be chosen by the previous caliph.

>>73972255

>Simply killing all the Jews would solve 100% of the worlds problems

Of course it would, if only the World would let you murder innocent people willy-nilly it would be such a perfect and beautiful place because after all Jews are 100% responsible for 100% of everything bad, ever.

Like, everyone on Earth is literally a perfect fucking angel if it weren't for those damn kikes.

>Simply killing all the Jews would solve 100% of the worlds problems
>He seriously believes this dumb-fuck retard shit

It hurts me not how evil it is, but how fucking dumb it is.

People really are this stupid; I can understand how witch-trials were such a big thing back in the day.

Like Muslims I can understand they've been brain-washed since birth but holy shit are white people not even 0.00001% better without any of the excuses of poverty or violence or oppression or whatever.

Considering their most famous and beautiful Mosque was just stolen from Christians not a lot desu.

>>73972277
>>73972322

Of course not, there are literally no conflict between different groups of people on Earth that aren't somehow orchestrated behind the scenes by Jews:


>Simply killing all the Jews would solve 100% of the worlds problems
>100%

You heard the man, all problems, solved, instantly, it's like magic.

Jews hate this guy.

>>73972439
why you still feeding him for fucks sake
just report him

>>73972510

Just another victim of the """"red pill""" overdose.

This is what happens when you let /pol/ raise your kids.

>>73972502
i didn't say anything about jews, what the fuck is wrong with you

you sound like a paranoid retard

>>73972652

Mostly responding to that other guy. but anyway I dont' agree with you, the Sunni-Shia divide is a big part of this but I still think the NUMBER ONE problem with Islam is:

>>73971360

>>(in current Islamic culture) self-reflection is almost non-existant, criticism is not not tolerated

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>>73972439
When the Jews destroyed Rome, the successors the Byzantines banned Jews from finance and the government, thus preventing their half from collapsing and prevented the Dark Age from reaching them.

When the Jews destroyed Germany, Hitler exterminated them, and Germany had a technological and economic golden age becoming the most technologically and economically powerful nation in the world.

In America during the civil war Jews were selling Union secrets to the CSA, and causing the Union to lose a lot of battles. General Ulysses S Grant, banned all the Jews from his territory and suddenly the tide of battle changed, the Confederates no longer knew his positions nor could the Jews sabotage the Union.

>pic related
Jews have been kicked out over 1000 nations for kiking them over and over again. Every time Jews were eradicated nations recovered from the damage caused by der jude. You can simply read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion to see what Jews plan to do. To claim Jews aren't the problem is to ignore 6000 years of history.

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>>73972502
Sunni/Shia doesn't have anything to do with this. They both fight against the Jews. It's simply Jew+Jewish slaves vs. the free Goyim that is the conflict.

The scary part is that the Jews are aware that the goyim know and plan on nuking the entire planet if we do anything about it.

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>>73972772

>Jews were persecuted in the past which not only justifies persecuting them now but also PROVES without a doubt that they are literally a hive-mind malevolent force behind EVERYTHING
>Read the Protocols of Zion, a fantasy book written by antisemites to see what you're going to do next

To claim Jews aren't the problem is to ignore 6000 years of history.

>All 6000 years of human history (Jews haven't existed for 6000 years, btw) is just one Jewish conspiracy after another

I think the saddest thing about the ""red pill"" overdose is not just the evil but the fact that it blinds you to how interesting and complex human history actually is.

Like you take what is a massively intricate and fascinating narrative and dumb it down into some low-brow ignorant scapegoating bullshit about how "duh j000s" conspired to do this or that while completely missing the themes and arcs of human history.

Holy shit, goy, you are missing out.

Also you're an asshole but that's normal for most people.

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>>73972704
The problem with Islam, well for Jews, is that Islam prohibits Jewish banking systems, thus making them a threat to Jewish dominance. In Judaism, goyim who are free from the chains of the Jewish debt machine cannot be tolerated. Even one shekel not in the pockets of der jude is another Holocaust™

Pic related, throughout history the problem has always been Jews. There was no problem in the Middle East before the Jews invaded.

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>>73972862

>There are no conflicts between groups of people it's all DUH J0000s (bad guys) versus everyone else

It's so... reductionist. Like how fucking dumb and small-minded do you have to be to reduce all of human history and politics and economics to some dumb-fuck Saturday morning-cartoon good guy versus bad guy fairy tale.

>>73972971

According to your ideology everything on Earth was literally the Garden of Eden before Jews arrived, you've literally come up with a Unified Theory of Human History.

And the theory is?

>IT WAS THUHHHHH (((((((((J000000000000000000000s)))))))))

>Historians, economists, anthropologists, political analysts, etc. hate this guy.

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>>73972929
>the protocols
>a fantasy
>everything in the protocols is openly done by jews

>>73973131

I might as well be arguing with a piece of furniture at this point, you're completely stuck inside your own ass.

I gotta go in a few minutes but I'll argue with you on /pol/ later.

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>>73972997
>>73972997
Okay Schlomo, I guess Jews do not have nukes pointed to every major nation in the world. They totally aren't trying to start a war right now with Syria/Iran

>>73968680
complete shit

you mean Persian / Byzantine art?

arab culture is shit

>>73968680
>Islamic
You mean Persian?

>>73973544
This desu

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>>73973544
>>73973620
>Indostan and Malay
>"Persian"
ayyyy

>>73971295
>In practice, modern Islamic culture is regressive, where intellectualism is shunned, close-mindness is rewarded, and work ethic does not exist.
Valid when referring to arab countries

>Does not help that (in current Islamic culture) self-reflection is almost non-existant, criticism is not not tolerated, and anyone on the inside who doesn't agree with the zealous majority is seen as an enemy.
Not true, it applies to ISIS or maybe Hamas but everywhere else, islamic culture is way less rigid than anyone on here would think.

>>73973765
A fuckton of current Indo-Architecture was derived from the ancient pre-Islamic Persian one
And the picture in the OP looks nothing like indigenous and traditional Malay architecture.

the algerian has arrived >>73973844
post landmarks, architecture and food
anything else is indefensible

>>73973891
well have you ever thought that the OP picture and the OP text might not be completely related? tends to happen a lot in 4chan

>>73973891
Persian architecture doesn't look like that, it's more gothic

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>>73968913
>only /pol/ racists can hate Islam

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>>73974019
desu it's either /pol/, but not all of /pol/, and usually the leftist cucks.

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>>73968680
perfect

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>>73968680
Thats a pretty mosque, i can beat that. You got anything better? This is now a architecture/art dick measuring contest

child marriage is unironically the only viable islamic inluence, let that one sink in

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>>73981290
uzbekistan has overall cool mosques

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>>73981290
our corny (pun intended) contribution

>>73981552
indeed

>>73981696
is dis corn?

>>73968680
Islam is primitive and cringy, people do horrible things just because of a old text made by a pedophile that fucked a 9 years old girl.

>>73981993
and pumpinks and palm leaves and lots of glue
it was a temporary installation tho

The only redpilled religion. Judaism comes at a close second

>>73972613
>Arguing with /pol/niggers
You're only moderately more intelligent than him bud.