Is Anarcho-Primitivism the ultimate redpill?

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>>73907439
Anime is

>>73907439
There is a lecturer on anarchism who is anarcho primitivist. Ironically enough he sells his lectures on the internet
>>73907466
yeah, pretty much

>>73907439
Yes
We need to exterminate most humans on the planet, so the small minority that is spared can live in an ecotopia rich in wildlife and nature

Anarchism is just as unrealistic as Marxism and its variations.

>>73907466
lol

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Anarcho-municipalism is superior.

We can achieve ultimate peace only by eating more vegetables

>>73907633
I'd say it's pretty realistic since humans lived an anarcho-primitivist lifestyle for 99% of our existence.
>>73907572
Only way it will happen honestly
>>73907691
Fellow anarchist?

>>73907559
Do have a link?

>>73907839
It's in russian

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You misspelled "anarcho-transhumanisnm".

>>73907439
I would considerate the ultimate red pill because as a anarcho-primitivist you are rejecting civilization itself. I believe it was Thomas Hobbes that said civilization is what causes suffering, somewhat giving birth to anarcho-primitivism

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>>73907756
Yes mah man

>>73907909
what is the guys name than?

Fuck all these ideologies about beating people up and leaving everyone to die.

>>73907439
Anarcho-Syndicalism is the true redpill.

>>73908177
What is your proposed ideology then?

>>73908209
True my northern friend.

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>>73908215
I guess he enjoys more shooting unarmed kids that are trapped on an island.

>>73907986
Petr Ryabov (Пeтp Pябoв)

>>73908282
Thanks

>>73908177
>Leaving everyone to die
What gives you this impression? Primitivism promotes mutually beneficial and communal ideas that serve to help those in the community. It's not just people running about in the wild, murdering and pillaging.
>>73908209
>>73908231
Holy shit anarchists.

Also, for the rest of you, if you're interested, I'll leave a of link to some good primitivist texts.
http://theanarchistlibrary.org/category/topic/anti-civ?page=1

I could include some Anarcho-Syndicalist stuff as well?

>>73908394
>good primitivist texts.
I found this to be an appropriate primer:
http://rousseaustudies.free.fr/articlejohn_zerzan.pdf

>>73908394
Marxists.org as a good section on anarchists as well.
I actually got into Anarcho-Syndicalism through Marxism.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/index.htm#anarchism
Here is the link for anarchism on the MIA.

>>73908215

I haven't seen any that I entirely agree with, and probably never will. What I am pretty sure about, though, is that anarchy goes strictly against human nature. We need a hierarchy in order to function as a society. Not a hereditary one, but one based entirely on individual merit.

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>>73907439
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>73908506
By this point I don't give a shit about human nature and if an ideology works. I see inequality and I want to fix it. Marxism, Anarchism, and only a few other ideologies attempt to actually end inequality once and for all.

ANCAP. BEST. AN.

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>>73908512
>>73908619

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>tfw Baader was more of a psychopath criminal rather than a genuine anarcho-communist

>>73908664
Easy way to make money desu

>>73908498
Thanks my man, this is greatly appreciated.

>>73908506
>We need a hierarchy in order to function as a society
Most primitive societies/groups had little to no hierarchy (dependent on the society) and survived that way for hundreds of thousands of years. I'd say that anarchy is most suited for human nature as it promotes equality, collective ownership of land, capital and is beneficial to all participants.

>>73908678
wewlad

>>73908718
j-just kidding, hahahaha...

Is this anarcho-x a new meme or something?

>>73908750
absolutely

>>73908750
Most of these ideologies are older than your grandparents. I'd argue ancap and stuff like queeranarchism are the most meme joke ones around and also the most recent.

>>73908815
What do think of the legitimacy of anarcho-transhumanism?
Its a newer form of anarchy but I do think has some legitimate claims.

>>73908868
I think anarchists need to consolidate their thinking along political and economic lines. Transhumanism is an interesting concept but it doesn't really fit into this mold so it seems to me as though it would be better served as a field of study within an already existing school of thought as opposed to being a standalone ideology.

>>73907439
No, it is shit

>>73908964
They have attempted to fit into this mold as they are currently working on a manifesto.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wJrXYBXAmNH9zwyfgg1-yAYN_Cda-26pFCk0u_QhyBc/edit

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>>73907439

Without a doubt

>>73907466

>>73909045
Interesting I'll give it a read.

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>Anarchism will never work
It's literally about to

>>73907572
>We need to exterminate most humans on the planet, so the small minority that is spared can live in an ecotopia rich in wildlife and nature
I hope you wiped the doritos dust off your fingers before typing that you larping fool.

Ancap is best

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>>73907439
it's monarchism

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>People unironically want to live in a world without a state
>People unironically think that there will be unlimited progress
>People unironically think no group of individuals is going to exploit another group of individuals to the point that the relationship is no longer efficient in a Paretian sense

>>73907439
Anarcho-anything is grade A retardation

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>not ubermenschism

Green anarchism is superior to anarcho-primitivism.

>>73909700
What's the difference?
Give me a run down

>>73909780
Green anarchism focuses on environmental issues and protecting nature, but it does not eschew civilization nor technology.

Primitivists are a bunch of unwashed troglodytes.

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>>73909630
>People unironically want to live

Death is so much preferable in every way

lmao OP is actually serious.

How old are you, 12?

>>73909839
Green anarchism is the most appealing ideology to me now
Anarcho primitivism is too memeish

>>73907691
Is there a difference between that and anarchist federalism? I feel like I've seen them rather interchangeably.

>>73907439
god you shill things so much that I know who you are every time you post, it's equivalent to namefagging.

Society and systems correlate with your overall goal. If goal is to live dangerous, shitty lives with extreme infant mortality, disease, etc; yet relatively free and unbound lives? Sure Anarcho-Primitivism is then a good option (but still basically impossible to enforce/implement). But most people don't want that and it would eventually go back to where we are today, groups absorb other groups and eventually, you have modern-day nations again and we're back to some NEET in a developed nation with an easy-mode life shilling the same shit we've started from twice now.

>>73908506
>human nature
Which is mostly defined by several hundred thousand years of societal and cultural development and the by the limbic system. We can be many things, our brain is very adaptable. What I'm saying is there is no such thing as definite and static "human nature". It's a meme (mostly). We have a broad range of what our nature can be.

I don't think Anarchism is good though. Mostly because it resigns us to being simplistic animals, who will then go extinct fairly quickly. I prefer Collectivism with the goal of dominating the solar system, and eventually the galaxy. Making something of ourselves, eventually shedding all of our biology too. It really doesn't matter though, because Nihilism. But why not be defiant towards the void and dominate/propagate anyway.

Of course Anarchist ideas aren't to be ruled out. If implemented correctly you can make a society that is more efficient, less corrupt and more Collectivised despite being more Anarchistic.