/balk/

die

>>73881711

And how do you explain seeing land 50 kilometers away from where you're standing, considering such would be literally impossible on a globe earth?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUxVu4qXGq8&t=3s

>>73881796
based illyrians

>>73881790
>seeing land 50 kilometers away

kek

Macedonia is literal shit
Albos should take it away

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGc7Xd6HP54

EXPAND YOUR MIND
X
P
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>>73881796
>кoмa ceдaмнaec

>>73881855

the fuck m8 ?

>>73881790
more like 5000 kilometers

>>73881855

You're gonna give that holy Orthodox land to Muslim Albos, and not your Bulgarian brothers? Kek.

>>73881841

The """ISS""" is much a much smaller aircraft that flies much closer to the earth, with solar technology which enables it to orbit the flat earth infinitely.

This technology has already been invented, tested and proved:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Evuxtg927Y

>>73881917
Macedonia has 365 mosques,1 for every day of the year

>>73881987
Shkip pls, we've already calculated that you need 365 x 5 mosques - a mosque for each of the 5 prayers for each day of the year.

>>73881987
what if the year is leap one?

>>73882046
And that's only counting the mosques in Shkupi.

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>>73881987

remove bubreg

>>73882077
my right ear tho

>>73882077
more like make my dick great again

>>73882059
They build one and after the year ends they destroy it

>>73881684
DEATH TO TURKEY!!!
DEATH TO RUSSIA!!!
DEATH TO AMERICA!!!

>>73882077
>uhha-uhha-uhha

fuck she laughs like a stupid whore from one of those stupid whore pornos where they feature stupid whores

>"Finance think": 76% of employees in Macedonia receive a salary lower than 325€

>>73882059
muslims invented mathematics. do you think they are a pack of sub-70 IQ retards,then you're wrong.

obviously they just take over a church, put temporary minarets on it and proclaim it a mosque. cuck authorities comply every time.

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>>73882157

destroy you say

*farts*

Okay bratkos, I understand this is a tough topic, but we need to talk about Macedonia.

Firstly, can someone update me on the political crisis... is Zaev PM yet or is Ivanov still resisting?

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>>73881745
you clearly do not understand the concept of a dish antenna

I'll give you a hint, if you want to amplify terrestrial signals with a dish, eg. a dished biquad antenna to leech off someone's WiFi, the dish does not point above the horizon.

It does when you want to amplify a high frequency signal from a geostationary satellite.

>>73882228
google is you are friend

>>73882138
>الصربي
>an immigrant cockroach is posting here
Don't make me go to Belgrad, finding you in your shitty immigrant computer center will be no problem.

It was right next to the train station, right?
I will come and break your cockroach legs.
All 6 of them.

>>73882257
you fool

the dishes point at the sky because broadcasting dishes are all built on mountains and hills and shit, so that the signal doesn't get polluted

>>73882257
the le master trolle flat earther thinks fishing for (you)'s is amusing, don't oblige him

>>73882228
they're crying about joining serbia again

>>73882265

Just trying to stimulate discussion as the situation is escalating.

Albania is starting to get very serious about greater Albania... they recently leaked info that they want to join together with Kosovo. You can bet they will start talking more and more about their claims to western Macedonia (which is so sad). If push comes to shove, what happens?

>>73882294
the writing in arabic means "the serb" and serves to avoid mena posters asking me if i'm arabic

you literal imbecile

>>73882363
>he literally believes photoshopped images and obvious and proven videos taken in Not A Space Agency swimming pools and accepts them as the truth

traits of a sub-50 IQ subhuman tbx

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Why are fyromshits so poor

xth for vuno my waifu :3

>>73882412
>falling for an obvious bait

i am greek

>>73882458
can we all summon Vuno now to post more pics?

>>73882436
I don't have time for le master trolle people who think the flat earth movement is funny.

>>73882412
>a cockroach roleplaying as a serb
Kill yourself subhuman slime.Go to /ex-yu/ and pretend to be a serb there.

>>73882506
but it's finny 'cause it's true

>>73882373

But Macedonia and Serbia have nothing in common other than a less than a century of a forced union where Macedonians were hit with intense propaganda, tortured, and killed.

Luckily Bulgaria stood 100% behind Macedonia when they claimed independence, otherwise Macedonia would have turned into another western balkans situation.

I really doubt Bulgaria would allow Albania to touch Macedonia. But if they did, what would happen to the remaining half?

>>73882412
werent you the serb with the fez? show it please

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Why do shiptrs hate us again?Its not like we didnt provide them with jobs a 1st world country to stay and steal.

>>73882506
>I don't have time to post actual proof. Instead, I choose to believe in things from an """agency""" who literally says that there's no actual photos of the globe earth and admits that they were photoshopped composites.

Tell me again, why you don't deserve to be robbed by telephone terrorists after you become a pensioner?

>>73882551
I mean, yeah, it is funny, but not to the degree of getting b8ed by it.

>>73882569
>But Macedonia and Serbia have nothing in common other than a less than a century of a forced union where Macedonians were hit with intense propaganda, tortured, and killed.
that's not true though, it's bulgarian propaganda
we did nothing to macedonians they wanted their own identity and were allowed to have it

>>73882497
no shes mine!

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>>73882569
fucking leaf

you are cancer

>>73882606

Kek. Read a non-serb textbook plz

>>73882597
>t.atar

>>73882569
Do you know which other balkan country stood 100% behind fyromia when they claimed independence?

>>73882584
u make me wait literally 2 hours when i go to buy stuff in ioannina
fucking border cops

>>73882597

Bulgaria welcomes you with open arms, I am sure.

>>73882640
it's true though, macedonian identity was formed before serbia annexed macedonia and had influence over it. read more about it

>>73882668
>buy
you mean steal?

>>73882701
>macedonian identity was formed before serbia annexed macedonia
>>73882701
Identity which was similar to Swiss one in that it tried to unite all the Orthodox ethnic groups residing in the province in revolt against Ottoman rule. It was never a Slavic ethnic concept.

>>73882701
The Macedonian identity was invented in Belgrade before the Tito-Stalin break up, and the brainwashing of an entire population, which was accomplished by violently suppressing anyone who claimed Bulgarian ancestry ensued.

Read any neutral source, and it will tell you the same. This is objective fact.

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>28% don't have enough money to cover their bills and food
>42% can only cover their monthly bills and food

>fyrom

how do we stop diaspora niggers from fucking up our threads, lads? i want them gone and i want them gone now

Yo, flat earther. Have you observed the ISS? Have you looked through a telescope? Do you know how the physics behind orbits works? Yeah, I though so, Mr. "I have no life" Le Trolle.

>>73882747
no i only jew the albanian customs fee
i get 23% back from greece since im supposed to pay it to albania since im albanian but i dont
basically mostly everything is 23% off
:^)

>>73882835
wrong, you dumb mongrel

>The first prominent author that propagated the separate ethnicity of the Macedonians was Georgi Pulevski, who in 1875 published Dictionary of Three languages: Macedonian, Albanian, Turkish, in which he wrote:

> What do we call a nation? – People who are of the same origin and who speak the same words and who live and make friends of each other, who have the same customs and songs and entertainment are what we call a nation, and the place where that people lives is called the people's country. Thus the Macedonians also are a nation and the place which is theirs is called Macedonia.[112]

>>73882884
Have option to select permitted poster flags @ thread creation.

>>73882770

>shilling the split up of macedonia

Of course not. That is sacred Orthodox and Bulgarian land. Macedonians and Bulgarians are brothers and equals.

I am only saying that, Albania taking a chunk may be inevitable, unfortunately, as Soros' influence is extremely powerful.

>>73882835
Unfortunately, you're entirely wrong. Victor Roudometof wrote a great book on subject of Macedonian identity and its evolution.

>>73882628
t. retarded hater xpozed

>>73882847
>2/3 can't afford to vacation
>3 million visits of fyromians to greece in 2015

okay i believe this statistic

>>73882956

man i fucking hate cyrillic, at least with latin script you get an idea of what its saying

translate this shit

>>73882994
I'm not your translator service you filth

>>73882994
dumb burger

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What happened to /shqip/, why did you fags let it die

>>73883044
You are stuck with us.

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>>73883044
кy йeни шкипe

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>fyromdumbs

>>73883044
vuno can stay here but all you faggots should fuck off to that echo chamber

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>>73883095
>when a difference of 0.4% is presented as a difference of 40%

>>73883044
it worked 2 days ago

>>73883095
Soros will pay for this disinformation.

>>73883106
Bit mean 2bh

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>balkan capital powerrankings

1. skope

*gap*

24. belgrade
25. sarajevo
...
111. athens
...

190. """tirona"""

..........

1999. shitfia

>>73883106
>vuno
dont talk to me or my waifu ever again

>>73883153
Shkupi*

>>73883153

fugg, skopje*

i hope the gods forgive me for typo'ing the name of the greatest capital on the peninsula

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UED4WqwNU1c

why are niggers so musical

they make music out of anything

>ги тpoшaт caмo зa хpaнa и cмeтки
this is me
i could probably save more if i stop drinking whiskey and expensive cognac, but then I'll be complete pleb, like you guys

>>73883153
I heard Sarajevo is the only worthwhile capital in the Balkans

>>73883210
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpVc04qGki8

>>73883232
for you yes

>>73883178
post pics of vuno or go to /haram

>>73883210

they literally have rhythm genes, guess thats what they got instead of brains/civilization

>>73883258
let's summon her

>>73883210
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J03cag5Lf4s

this shit goes hard af lil nigga

>>73882920

You do realizes you are totally over blowing a single idealistic author right? Is this what serbian propaganda says? Kek.

Macedonian is a western dialect of Bulgarian, into which the communist regime of ex-Yugoslavia artificially inserted Serbian and other words of non-Bulgarian origin, so as to make your language sound as different from Bulgarian as possible.

Krste Misirkov in 1903:
>“Some will ask why I speak of breaking away from the Bulgarians when in the past we have even called ourselves Bulgarians and when it is generally accepted that unification creates strength, and not separation. [...] And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?”

Before WWII, practically no one was talking about Macedonians as an ethnicity, save for a few revolutionaries like Krste Misirkov (see above) who wanted to break away from the rest of Bulgarians and were searching desperately for a new name, but without convincing the majority of your ancestors, who considered themselves Bulgarian. If you want to understand how the idea of a Macedonian ethnicity was created in your parents’ minds, look no further than the times of ex-Yugoslavia, when it was administered by its strong man and chief architect, Tito. It was Tito who introduced by decree the idea that “Macedonians” inhabit the south of Yugoslavia, and he did it for three reasons:

to sever Makedonia from Bulgarian kinsmen, so that Bulgaria could make no claims in Yugoslavian territory on the basis of kinship;

to be able to lay claims over the entire geographical region of Macedonia, since (he claimed, and you followed) it is “inhabited by Macedonians”; and

to find a way out into the Aegean Sea, after managing to unite all of geographical Macedonia and make it a province of Yugoslavia.

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>>73883307
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIT

>>73883257
why, your mum lives there?

>>73883309

Too bad for him, he succeeded only in his first two aims. But Makendontsi, indoctrinated in Tito’s communist regime, swallowed the bait whole, and believed they are “Macedonians”, not Bulgarians. (I don’t blame them; resistance under communism is known to be a health hazard.) And you, their children, grew up being indoctrinated that they are “Macedonians” and nothing else. The tendency of communism to change past history is well known. But human intelligence is stronger than any ideology. So, you, as intelligent people that you are, can make an effort to study your history (but from independent sources) and learn more about it.

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>>73883321

>Meanwhile our population si growing to 2.2 million

well, one of your populations is :D

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>fyrompoors

>>73883309
>You do realizes you are totally over blowing a single idealistic author right? Is this what serbian propaganda says? Kek.
it's literally a proof that macedonians were aware by that time that they don't belong either to bulgarians and serbians
from that point of time they started to call themselves macedonians, they even had a military groups which were fighting for its independence and NOT for joining bulgaria
hell even the greatest known macedonian nationalist (leader of VMRO) wanted macedonia to be separate from bulgarians as he saw his people belonging to their own ethnicity

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If i have a son and i catch him listening to (c)Rap i will publicly denounce him in a newspaper, city offices and in the house of God.

>>73883425
>tfw no qt whitey gf with green eyes to pop 10 children into

>>73883423

Please, enough with the Tito propaganda regurgitation and reread

>>73883309
>>73883366

>>73883423
>the greatest known macedonian nationalist (leader of VMRO)
who would be that? Also people changed their views with time, at the end of his life Sandanski wanted an independent Fyrom within a Turkish led confederation. Now we can't have that, can we?

The big names were pro-Bulgarian, and anti-Serbian.

>>73883409
what is some macedonian dating portal
I might help some cиpoмaшкo qt

>>73883493
not in my province

>inb4 turk

northwest

At the end of the day, Serbs saw Macedonians as subjects, while Bulgarians saw then and still see them as equals. And time will make things right.

As for Serbia, karma has bit them in the ass, as we saw first with Yugoslavia, then Montenegro and now Kosovo.

>>73883520
>cиpoмaшкo qt
I'll take two.

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>>73883423

>it's literally a proof that macedonians were aware by that time that they don't belong either to bulgarians and serbians

pretty retarded move since they're surrounded by wolves and all 4 have claims there

makkes might have the spirit of alexander but theyre no israel

whats ur major /balk/

>if I have a son

statistically unlikely

>>73883569
illyrian history

>>73883524
>Romania fucked us by attacking in bw2
Bulgaria is at fault for not ceding Silistria, even though our lack of involvement in BW1 was only because they agreed to the aforementioned ceding under Russian counsel stating that they will do it after territorial gains are made at the end of BW1.

>>73883477
you literally spew autistic crap made up by bulgarian historians

literally everything you said is wrong but you avoid to answer to the obvious facts, so there's no point to further discuss with you

literally just open wikipedia and start from there

and also i suggest you the same as this anon >>73882962

>>73883569
my penis is pretty major ;)

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>>73883602

No, I spew facts said by unbiased, neutral scholars, you just keep regurgitating Tito propaganda. It's sad.

Don't you have someone to backstab? Pic related

>>73883498
>The big names were pro-Bulgarian, and anti-Serbian.
that was not my point, but yes they saw you as allies for sure since they would fulfill their goals sided with you

>>73883602
>autistic crap made up by bulgarian historians
I was not aware our historians spewed autistic crap. Now Serbian and Fyromian historians, on the other hand...

The fucking Greeks remember they fought against Bulgarian komitas during the Macedonian struggle, it's you retarded Serbs that invent bullshit.

>>73883582
hehe (you) :^|
>>73883651
thats very lewd
also
4 u

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>>73883399
>del this
ok only the half is enough

It's snowing.

>>73883678
not an argument you retarded mongrel

also you're shifting the points now

but whatever helps you sleep at night :^)

>>73883695
>our historians are 100% right
>everyone who has an opposing view is wrong

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>>73883524

Was it Romania that pushed the Ottoman allies over the top. What a battle though, Bulgaria would have BTFO any of these countries in a 1v1. It's sad because Bulgaria had just given up the most troops to get the Ottomans out of Europe. But backstabbing Serbs have no shame. Luckily they are now getting their just desserts :)

>>73883758
The pants-on-head retarded antichki mythology in Fyrom was inspired by Serbs, my friend.

>>73883758

I'm simply stating serbshits are historic backstabbers. A petty people. They couldn't even brainwash Macedonia correctly, even though they had a century to do it. Fucking kek.

>>73883602
sincerely i don't know why you continue with attempts to hold a civilized discussion. he belongs to the kind of people who turn to national myths and project them to history. such people deserve a pat on the back, confirmation that they're always right, and maybe a bottle of beer

>>73883766
>Luckily they are now getting their just desserts
They paid that in WWI. Now we are cool.

How do you get 15.000 people to just stand there and watch and wait to be blinded ?

I call fake news.

>>73883831
>They couldn't even brainwash Macedonia correctly
we didn't even tried to brainwash them, we just allowed them to lost in their delusions

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wow, albanians and macedonians working together since a century ago

look how friendly we are goy, now make albanian your official language

>>73883845

Do Serbs genuinely believe the Yugoslav era propaganda they are spewing? You realize it is pure BS, I am sure, right?

i fucking hate diaspora fags. literally worse than serdar posting and fyrombey combined

>>73883569
dacia minor

>>73883887

Yes, you did, you moron. You brainwashed them violently.

>The solution which Tito arrived at for the Macedonian problem of Yugoslavia -even before the war was really over- was one quite accommodating. By acknowledging the Slav inhabitants of Yugoslavian 'Macedonian' as "Macedonians", he eliminated (or hoped to eliminate) the links between that population and Bulgaria. On the other hand, this gave him the initiative in imposing a unilateral Yugoslav solution to the Macedonian problem by incorporating the other two geographical regions into the Socialist republic of Macedonia. Of course, the break with Stalin in 1948 and the end of the Civil War in Greece in 1949 upset these plans, as we have seen already. However, since it had proved impossible to settle the whole Macedonian question unilaterally, it was essential that it be consolidated at least within Yugoslav Macedonia. This was a far from easy task. A whole people, who for decades had been identified with or orientated towards the Bulgarian national ideas, and a smaller section which had had a similar orientation towards Serbia, would have to sever these bonds and adopt an entirely novel national ideology, the 'Macedonian' ideology. That undertaking was Yugoslavia's domestic 'Macedonian problem' in the post-war decades.

>>73883945
The violent suppression of the Bulgarian identity by the Serbs had started earlier, after BW2. But, Fyromian history textbooks will tell you about the evil fascist Bulgarian occupators.

>>73883910
you would've understood what's propaganda and what's not had you ever entered a historical archive. but your kind is afraid of any critical examination of any stance that doesn't suit them. now excuse me, i've spent years trying to make debates with hopeless cases such as yourself.

why do bulgarians let their diaspora run rampant here
it's cringey and sad

>>73884049
I am a Greek.

>>73884033
post your fez man i wanna see it again

>>73884011
>>73884016
yeah we brainwashed them so hard they totally have forgotten about their ancestry

you are hopeless, lad. all you do is sperging out with bulgarian revisionism on these anonymous board, it's sad

>>73884068
why the fuck do you think i have a fucking fez

>>73884053
malakas show remarkable discipline in /hell/ by nor responding to iki.

>>73884145
>posting in /hell/
wew lads

>>73884127
arab name + some serb posted his fez a while ago. was it not you?

>>73884125
>bulgarian revisionism
no one ever accused our historians of revisionism. now let's take a look at fyrom:
Head of national history museum--Serb
Skopje mayor during Skopje 2014 antiquization project-Serb
Greatest media tycoon that spews antichki anti-Bulgarian bullshit--Serb

>>73884125

Sad is Serbs spitting Tito era propaganda and actually believing it. The Macedonians on this board, who are Bulgarian equals, are not dumb. They see right through your scummy moves. Pathetic really.

>Dr. Fisk said he felt the Committee could endorse [Livermore's] small weapon program. He was concerned, however, about Dr. Teller's 10,000 MT gadget and wondered what fraction of the Laboratory's effort was being expended on the [deleted]. Mr. Whitman had been shocked by the thought of a 10,000 MT; it would contaminate the earth.

post yfw when you realise that the US has the blueprints for a weapon 100 times as powerful as Tsar Bomba

>>73884184
my "arabic" name means "the serb"

>>73884217
>no one ever accused our historians of revisionism
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1478-0542.2005.00130.x/full

>>73884217
>no one ever accused our historians of revisionism.
yeah that's why we have today tatars who rely on your historic books and claim half of the greece and serbia is filled with ex-bulgarians
get lost, retard

>>73884224
it's you who're spitting propaganda here, but obviously you can't see that

who /tech house/ here

>>73884298
>>73884301
feeling the burn, eh?

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our ancestor...:)

>>73884298
yeah yeah but that one serb was into ottomans and arabs as well so i thought it was you.

>>73884301

No, I am simply explaining history, as told across the world. I understand your Serb textbooks say different, but I don't think anyone is surprised.

>The problem amounted to nothing more or less than the construction of an artificial nationality, the 'Macedonian' nationality. The task was difficult not only because the Bulgarian consciousness was relatively highly-developed in a considerable portion of the population of the Socialist Republic of Macedonia but also because the new nationality did not have the features which are essential for its establishment as such.

>The main feature of the nationality was its language. It was generally accepted that the language spoken by the Slavs of Macedonia is a dialect of Bulgarian. In order to sever the substantive linguistic bond between the Macedonian Slavs and the Bulgarians, a separate 'Macedonian' written language had to be invented. This was done by exploiting local peculiarities and by borrowing from Serbian and other Slav languages. However, despite the painstaking efforts of thirty years, the new language remains for the open-minded observer or scholar nothing more than an offshoot of Bulgarian: not, of course, that this prevents Skopje from proclaiming near and far that there is a 'Macedonian' language.

I don't see any difference between Serbs and Bulgarians. We are all brothers and have to work together to scam the western/chink fagets and to equally distribute the acquired wealth.

>>73884384
literally what

>>73884413
i've never seen him tho. i post on 4chan rarely anyways.

>>73884402
shit map

>>73884451
>equally distribute the acquired wealth
GET THE COMMIE GET HIS RED THIEVING ASS

DEATH TO WHITES
DEATH TO EUROPE
DEATH TO THE WEST

>>73884402
>Suleiman the Magnificent in 1580

He died in 1566. Also why is Kıbrıs not yellow? It was conquered in 1570.

>>73883709

Very powerful. Thank you brother.

Sad that the deluded serbshits continue to spew pathetic propaganda, when the truth is readily available.

>>73884488
this and whites are submissive cucks with inferior and recessive genes

>>73884488
I SEE YOU ARE COOL I AM ALSO COOL WANNA HANGOUT

>>73884441
top kek, do you honestly think some random internet sites from where you're citing that crap is more reliable than actual historical books? i've just googled it and found out it's written by some anonymous bulgarian nationalists on some forum
i can't believe how you try to fed us with this bullshit propaganda here

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>when the balkans was a force to be reckoned with
>now its just a bunch of poor stink meme countries

LOL

>>73884529
Check the numbers for WWI.

>>73884559
HAYDE HAYDE ARNAVUTLUK cCc

>>73884488
HITLER CHECKS AND CONFIRMS

>>73884526
this also caucasians must be exterminated

>>73884625
this

>>73884540

TOP KEK!

Right, keep thinking that. Meanwhile keep calling Macedonians (Bulgarian equals) your subjects, and keep denying the fact that you violently brainwashed them Pathetic really. Luckily the world knows the truth.

Once again, enough with the Tito regurgitation and read
>>73883309
>>73883366

>>73884532
YES LETS HANGOUT

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heres a webm to add to ur collection
i see it could be used a lot in this general :^)

>>73884610
It was their Foreign Minister.

>>73884708
cringe

>>73884661
and once again you're confirming that you literally don't have any sources beside some anonymous internet forums where tatars write fantasy stories

i'm literally dying of laugher how pathetic you are
so much effort to write all that crap, holy shit

>>73884559
somewhat better, royal hungary was never a "vassal" of the ottomans

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>>73884559

Disagree. This is best Balkans in 1000AD

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>ottoman federation circa 2050

cCc osmanli torunlari cCc

If my understanding of things is correct, the Balkans is basically Bulgarians, Greeks, Serbs and Albanians. The rest is just made up.

>>73884767
That was earlier.

>As Foreign Minister, Barthou met King Alexander I of Yugoslavia during his state visit to Marseille in October 1934. On 9 October, the King and Barthou were assassinated by Velicko Kerin, a Bulgarian revolutionary wielding a handgun

>>73884735
heres example number 1 where this could be applied
refer to >>73884708

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This would be ideal Balkans today.

Best part: no deluded serbshits to regurgitate obviously false Tito propaganda.

I feel as though I am being too hard on them though. I mean, look at the state of their country today. The worst in the Balkans, losing clay left and right. Serbs deserve mostly pity.

>>73884795

i would argue montenegrins are their own too

they have their own clan culture like albanians when other serbs dont and im pretty sure cetinje (heart of old montenegro) was never even conquered by the turks

>>73884856
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>>73884904
>i would argue montenegrins are their own too
no, they're basically us

the majority of serbs in serbia trace their ancestry in montenegro and bosnia

>>73884904

Montenegrins are absolutely their own. Good, smart people. Nothing like Serbs

>>73884904
>they have their own clan culture like albanians when other serbs dont
pretty much whole herzegovina has, while central serbia had knežinske nahije which are pretty much the same thing

>im pretty sure cetinje (heart of old montenegro) was never even conquered by the turks
was under their effective rule until the end of the 18th century, razed at least twice

>>73884961
>sent half of their army to fight bulgarians in bw2

>>73884981

Perhaps, but absolutely more advanced serbshits. Not nigger tier like the ones in Serbia. At least they are finally getting away from Russian influence, into NATO, and trying to develop, and not stagnate like serbia.

>>73885030

Past wars are irrelevant. Montenegro has a higher GDP and HDI than Serbia, is joining NATO and will join the EU.

Meanwhile, Serbia is losing clay and stagnating, and will continue to stagnate so long as Russians are their daddies and they continue to believe in fake propaganda.

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>>73884264
>post face for something enormously stupid
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/White-House-Petition-Death-Star,20431.html

>>73884956

you guys already strayed from your roots ages ago, didnt you? in my mind i hardly consider anything north of sumadija really serbian tbqh

>>73884992

i thought herzegovina already gave that up too, perhaps not

>>73885083
a half-dead horse is dying for last three days on the podgorica airport, you can see it in their news portals

>>73885128
>i thought herzegovina already gave that up too, perhaps not
that's because your picture of the balkans is based on google search

>>73885147
lel

>>73885098
obviously, but what would mongrel leaf know about us here
he's shitposting miles away from balkans pretending he knows anything, but all he knows is some propaganda he picked up on the internet and being nationalistic 'cause of it, which is pretty much what every diaspora ever does

>>73885128
>you guys already strayed from your roots ages ago, didnt you? in my mind i hardly consider anything north of sumadija really serbian tbqh
how do you mean?

>>73885195

yes, i should know the entire history and nuance of a subregion smaller than montenegro, forgive my ignorance

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A certain election perhaps?

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>>73884264
>>73885123
the next-best thing after a real planet-killer

>>73885147
wtf, I remember when our national team played in podgorica and the news had something about horses and cows roaming around the airport
whats up with that? is it that seljak? how do I get a qt seljacica gf?

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>tfw ywn be a batka jehova beater

>>73885098

Irrelevant considering they are joining NATO in a month and eventually the EU. But you know more than me brother.

The reason I say nigger tier, is simply because niggers also easily fall for propaganda, and blindly regurgitate it without doing research. Or if they do research, they do not accept it if it doesn't fit with their agenda. It's sad.

>>73885350
bahti mangala

>>73885249
it is not smaller. herzegovina encompasses northern half of montenegro as well. herzegovina played a vital role in both serb and european history (great eastern crisis 1875-1878), and social structure is the basis of any history.

>>73885297
dunno

>>73885356
>The reason I say nigger tier, is simply because niggers also easily fall for propaganda, and blindly regurgitate it without doing research. Or if they do research, they do not accept it if it doesn't fit with their agenda. It's sad.
nice projection there, mongrel

>>73885272
I wish I had access to all the top-secret CIA shit

there would be some crazy stuff to read for sure

>>73885297

Keep your bloodline pure. Bulgarians or Macedonians only.

>>73885431
as a novice CIA cuck you wouldn't read anything past reddit-tier news

>>73885457
Hello Bulgarian of Serb ancestry here :DD :D

>>73885403

Great response, deluded serbshit. No, Macedonians are not your subjects. Their identity is your creation, but they are absolutely not your subjects. They are proud people with Bulgarian blood in their veins.

>>73885038
>monteniggers
>more advanced serbshits

Nah nigger they're uncivilized savages like the rest of the dinarics. That's not a bad thing, but they're cetrainly not the kind of people faggy urbanites like you would find pleasant.

>>73885470
I doubt even blompf has full access 2bh

>>73885517
as a non-jew, non-mormon, i doubt that he'd ever have full access to anything

>>73885513
that's what you think

but as i say, whatever helps you sleep at night :^)

>>73885470
Unless you go full Snowden.

>>73885564
>implying he isn't a literal governmental project
>implying one nerd can have this much power

>>73885604
>implying large organizations are run effectively and in a secure manner

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>>73885513

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>>73885683

>>73885637
t. i work for blizoo

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An exit from certain International organizations perhaps?

>>73885683
don't trigger him again, he'll just sperg out with some pastas from remote bulgarian nationalist forums where are fantasy stories written lmao

Did anyone here ever hike the Peaks of the Balkans?

>>73885677

Never, ever again. Serbshit. You'll never harm a Macedonian brother ever again.

>>73885717
>odrzavanje naroda u dugu bugarskom
you don't know to read, do you?

>>73885744
i thought he was trolling tho

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The removal of certain sanctions perhaps?

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>>73885762
>never again

implying it ever ended

>>73885760
I've done a couple.

>>73885744

Do I look like I'm a deluded serb who regurgitates disproven Tito propaganda? Nope. I get my information from neutral textbooks, where the objective truth is contained. I've studied the history, here in Canada.

But keep believing your serbian textbooks... kek :D

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The making of a New European order?

>>73885854
So did you go with a guide? For how long did you go?

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>>73885794

>>73885857
>Do I look like I'm a deluded serb who regurgitates disproven Tito propaganda?
no, you look like a deluded mongrel who constantly tries to feed us with some bullshit revisionist bulgarian propaganda. now kindly fuck off, since you haven't proven any shit you stated from the very beginning of the discussion. you're worthless

salut provinciali

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>>73885957

>>73885920
he doesn't know what he's talking about obviously, there's no further point for trying to prove him anything. he's the lost case

>>73885904
Groups, with a guide. Two or three days. But that's peaks. For more leisurely hikes, like for example through the Rhodopes, or if you are an experienced climber, you can go without a guide.

why did the greeks btfo again?

>>73886049
leave them be, they need to get their dose of abuse by iki

>>73885981

Meanwhile, serbs posting this.>>73885677
Kek. How deluded can a people be?

>>73886086
Step away from the computer, lad, go get some fresh air. Have a coffee or a beer or something.

>Since the Bulgarian idea, as it is well-known, is deeply rooted in Macedonia, I think it is almost impossible to shake it completely by opposing it merely with the Serbian idea. This idea, we fear, would be incapable, as opposition pure and simple, of suppressing the Bulgarian idea. That is why the Serbian idea will need an ally that could stand in direct opposition to Bulgarianism and would contain in itself the elements which could attract the people and their feelings and thus sever them from Bulgarianism. This ally I see in Macedonism...." from the report of S. Novakovic to the Minister of Education in Belgrade about Macedonism
>1887
>5 years before Pulevski published his book "Slavic-Macedonian General History" in which he wrote that Macedonians are descendants of ancient Macedonians
>Misirkov only 13 years old

>Simultaneously the proponents of the Greek Struggle for Macedonia as Germanos Karavangelis openly popularized the Hellenic idea about a direct link between the local Slavs and the ancient Macedonians.

>>73886029
Is it very challenging? I'm looking to go with Zbulo (http://zbulo.org/peaks-of-the-balkans/), and from reading their info about it it seems doable even though you're not some super experienced hiker. I'd go with a group and a guide.

Is there actual climbing? I thought it was mostly just hikinh/trekking. Did you stay with the local families? And overall, was it worth it?

Kosovo is Serbia.
Macedonia is Bulgaria.

/thread

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>>73886163
>Is there actual climbing?
Only if they pick a more challenging route for you. It's hiking, as you said. However, the way you asked your question, I assumed it was generic peaks climbing. You're asking about a specific route in the Western balkans, I've done only local ones (which are challenging). So sorry, can't asnwer about that specific route.

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>>73885981

Give this a watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM8uN0Atqrs

Tito forcefully trying to Serbianize the Macedonian language to seperate Macedonians from Bulgarian kinsmen is literally common knowledge. If you deny it, you are no better than a deluded serbshit lmao.

And serbs have no shame, they are still at it, as shown by this post >>73884217

>Skopje mayor during Skopje 2014 antiquization project-Serb

Serbs are a sad, sad people with no future.

>>73886132
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc

educate yourself

>>73886300
>still spewing propagandist material thinking anyone would believe it
wew lad, you don't give up easily, do you?

>>73885943

Are you gonna push more Tito propaganda to try and prove your fictional narrative? Because I'm laughing my ass of every time you try lmfao. You can't be serious, serbshit, right?

>>73886300
they have as much future as anyone on the balkans. now stop posting.

>>73886253

How can it be Serbia when it is 90% Albanian?

>>73886086
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ShKF4xV9A

I am 318% pure Macedonian

>>73886374
>циpк
>диcнилeнд
>кaтacтpoфa

>>73886253

thats where youre wrong kiddo

>>73886360
you have severe autism mate, don't get so buttblasted because someone like me wrote something on mongolian throat-singing board

>>73886491
>>73886491
>>73886491
NEW

>>73886353

Lmfao, and here ladies and gentleman, we have a deluded serbshit that actually believes the hilarious bullshit propaganda he is spewing.

>>73886527
>projecting this hard

>>73886373

Serbia absolutely does not have as much of a future as everyone on the Balkans. Montenegro does. Bulgaria does. Romania does. Hungary does. These are all countries that beat the Russian bear. Serbia does not. They have been trying to build a metro in Belgrade for 70 years, as an example, and still haven't broke ground. Let that sink in.

>>73886374
>The 2014 project was the best thing to happen to central skopje

Literally made you the laughing stock of the architectural world.

>>73886374

I've been to Skopje. Extremely kitsch. How does building statues of Alexander and Samuel make it less of a shithole? Kek. It doesn't. It makes it kitsch. A wacky, interesting place I guess... but nothing compared to the beauty of Plovidv, Varna, etc.

>>73886297
Ah okay, thanks anyways.

>>73886673
>beauty of varna
wew

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>You must wait longer before deleting this post.
>You cannot delete a post this old.

>>73882411
We win.