How would Brazil have looked like today if it was a Dutch colony?

USA-tier, if not even more powerful.

>>73804664
Oh yeah just like Suriname, right?

>>73804767
No, just like the USA.

>>73804767
No, like Indonesia.

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Okay different question: how would Brazil be today if it was a Belgian colony?

>>73805194
Fuck no, at least Portugal is a proper country

>>73804620
Depends on the type of colony.

basically like South Africa

>>73805194
Natives with no hands Mr.Leopold it would be Congo but empty

>>73804620
Indonesia tier
>>73805194
Congo tier

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>>73805194
>>73810147
>brazilians would have evolved to be born without hands

>tfw Brazil wasn't colonized by Russians

brazilian education

>>73804620
like a big suriname because white cant live in tropics

>>73804620
Provided the natives were wiped out, good

>>73808511
South Africa isn't a fair example because it was heavily influenced by Anglos

>>73812906
>what were the boer states

>>73812955
They were crushed under the heel of perfidious Albion

>>73813026
On the second try. And they never really liked the UK afaik.

>>73804620
Look to Indonesia

>>73813100
What's funny is that as a native English speaker I simply cannot pronounce "boer", try as I might. It either comes out as "boar" or "bower": I don't have physical access to the proper phonology.

>>73813103
Nederlands-Indië was one of the best colonies at that time. Batavia was the dominant city in SEA. Indonesia today has a lot from suffered from Suharto and Sukarno. The presence of the Dutch disappears by the day. However, both sides have made terrible mistakes.

>>73813239
You have to pronounce the 'oe' in boer like the 'oo' in 'good'

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>>73805041
>>73810178
>>73813103
>>73804767
>>73808511
Indonesia is muslin and was conquered, not colonized, europeans have never gone there to live, stupid dumb fucks. It would be more likely two countries, the dutch never had the man power or interest to colonize all of Brazil

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>>73804620
It would be fun, unfortunately they got their asses beaten

>Netherlands started a colony in North America
>most prosperous area of the continent

>Netherlands started a colony in the carribean
>most prosperous of the region

>The Netherlands started a colony in Africa
>most prosperous of the region

>The Netherlands touched Australia, New Zealand, Taiwan, Singapore, Malaysia and Japan
>all blessed with money and wisdom

>Suriname becomes independent
>it's a haven of stability in South Europe

>Indonesia and Brazil kick us out
>it all goes to hell

>>73804620
100% Tupi

Dutch colonization is actually what people falsely exaggerate Anglo colonization to be.

Brutally torturing the natives and extracting any and all natural resources.

>>73814671
Then on the European theater

>Netherlands is founded
>richest country in the world for centuries

>invade UK and put a Dutch king on their throne
>UK starts their golden age

>invade France as the Franks
>powerful and eternal nation is born

>>73814725
Also
>personal union with luxembourg
>super rich country is born

>get kicked out of Belgium
>the horrific result is Belgium

>>73814725
But we're Franks too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvA-mimf2yg

>>73814820
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOaVD_jB2Io

>>73814766
>>get kicked out of Belgium
>>the horrific result is Belgium

Belgium was richer than the Netherlands right away though because of the heavy industrialization

>>73814872
Historical data shows otherwise.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_regions_by_past_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

>>73814951
The only moment in history when Belgium was richer was during the first world war.

>>73814725
More like
>The UK Helps create the Dutch to fuck with mainland Europe

>>73815057
That's not true though. The UK had been waging wars against us since our founding. They even attacked us with Germany and France at the same time.

Their attacks only ended after we invaded them.

The Netherlands invaded for a short time the Northeast Brazil

>>73814485
the netherlands has more people than portugal

>>73815168
That's actually a fairly recent occurrence. Our population exploded in the last 120 years.

>>73815256
But I guess that goes for every European country.

>>73814671
>>73814725
>>73814766
The Netherlands was a country that could have been destined for greatness if not for the US. It was basically an eternal battleground and disputed territory between the English, Germans, Spanish, and French thus basically became a Eugenics super powered country between all the great powers, but the US was doing the same as an immigran country, and the US ultimately had more resources, land, and manpower than the Dutch did, and could better become the next superpower.

>>73815680
You seem to imply we're pulling on opposite sides. The Netherlands and the USA have always been culturally linked allies.

With a notable exception being that you support the decolonization of Indonesia.

Portuguese empire was almost half of the world, and Portugal only had only with 1 million of pop.
It would be impossible for us to mass colonize it with our own people.
The dutch, like us, hadn´t the number's. Don´t know, if it gonna look like a gigant Suriname, probably

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It would have failed cause the natives and african slaves wouldn't speak their fugly ass language

>>73816481
No I agree. We're all "Western" countries with more similarities than differences.

Just making the point that what made the Netherlands a powerful rich country is the same thing that made the US powerful and rich.

>>73817225
True. But these days we switched to supplying all basic resources to Europe.

Money (biggest investors in the world, but it's mostly American money)
Food (second agricultural exporter in the world)
Oil (biggest energy trading company, Vitol, in the world and non-governmental oil company, Shell, the international branch of gazprom, oil pipe lines from Russia and Turkey etc)
Gas (biggest gas field of Europoe)
Uranium (partial owner of the biggest uranium enrichment company in the world)
Logistics (biggest harbor of Europe)
We also export half the amount of chemicals as the USA does.
Now Shell is rolling out a network for hydrogen fuel for cars in Germany.

That's our game plan. As long as Germany keeps producing we keep supplying. I don't think that's going to change anytime soon.

>>73817582
We also have a big IT industry. But guess, what? It's the fundamentals again.

We have the most data centers in Europe.

>>73817669
If there is a gold rush, sell shovels.

>>73817701
In Dubai their is a construction boom.

Guess what we sell? Dredging services. We created the Islands they build on.

>>73817731
>>73817701
>>73817669
>>73817582
Why haven't the Europeans called you perfidious and greedy like the Anglos and Jews yet?

>>73805041
indonesia is a shithole

>>73804620
Nothing changes, at best they would've remained the ruling class or elite over a monkey populace

>>73804620
Instead of HUE'ing they'd just be constantly gagging.

>>73817987
Nobody notices us. We're usually friends with everyone. We speak their language.

>>73813596
it got usurped by a bunch of chinks the british dumped on a tropical island

nice """"colony"""" m8

>>73818038
Even in politics. Check this out.

The leader of the European Commission is from Luxembourg.
The vice president with a veto over everything is Dutch.
Leader of all ministers of finance in Europe, the eurogroup, is Dutch.
Europol is Dutch.
International courts are Dutch.

>>73817111
yeah because absolutely no africans speak afrikaans

>>73818099
The administration of the EU is Belgian.

>>73818099
>>73818038
I'll be sure to keep on eye on you overly friendly toothpaste motherfuckers.

>>73818248
The first Bilderberg conference was hosted by the Dutch monarchy in the Netherlands.

Illuminati confirmed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group

>>73818371
Bit deceiving to post that after that remark.

That was the nuclear summit here.

>>73818320
what's your point? are the dutch destroying Europe?

>>73818534
No, we have actually tried to push for tighter border controls. But you lazy Southern Europeans refuse to follow up on their part of the bargain. Greece and Italy actually have the obligation to process the refugees that land there. Not send them north to Germany.

But the Dutch agenda has always more corporatist. Our corporations even used to have governmental powers.

>flag related

Ooga booga allahu akbar

>>73818794
Put your blue pants on.

>>73818632
>we have actually tried to push for tighter border controls

Let's all take a laugh, dutch, since the 80's are in the first line of mundialism, and multiculturalism. and you know that.

>But you lazy Southern Europeans refuse to follow up on their part of the bargain

lmao "Lazy"? the old ridiculous lie, we work more hours than you kid, just look at the stats.
and 'southern europe' doens´t work like a bloc, there are different realities,like in all Europe.

Dutch are to weak to colonize a country, they even needed the jews expelled from Portugal to be rich

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>>73818810

>>73818810
gib gulden plox meneer.

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>>73818852
Bad deal, jew are good for trade, this stupid prejudice was one of the reasons of Portugal fall

>>73818845
Yeah, we used to have a multicultural agenda. But we are pragmatic. If something doesn't work we change our minds. We have sworn off multiculturalism years ago in the late 90's and early 00's.

The rest of Europe is just too slow to catch on. There is a reason why all terrorism happens in Germany/France/Belgium/UK etc but not here. Because the Netherlands doesn't do political correctness.

>>73817987
We have been calling them out for centuries but no one listened to us.

>>73819014
The Netherlands has a 70% bigger population than Sweden.
We had 25% of the refugees of Sweden.

The refugees know exactly where to go.

>>73805194
they would be even better at football.

>>73818949
That's a myth, Portugal reached progress and global power, after expelled them. it is history

>>73819014
Do you really believe that you will have a great future, when you look at Rotterdam? i've visited (or passed by), and in some train station i´ve almost only see non-euro's

>>73819265
Rotterdam literally just kicked the Turkish minister out for wanting to campaign here. Because we dont want to divide our population.

While she was allowed to campaign in other European countries.

>>73818794
kys

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What are the benefits of learning Dutch?

>>73819504
It's a nice language. Also, Flemish qts.

>>73819163
Sweden unironically needed refugees where as the Netherlands didn't. The Dutch already comfortably voted center-right, while the Swedes were becoming a bunch of colossal leftist pussies with no sense of how the world works outside them.

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>>73814485
>Europeans never went to live Indonesia
>calls others dumb
Silly macaco