Question to Latin Americans

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>>73765986
We don't have a problem of Portugal becoming our 28th state. I mean by the time they left Rio was the Portuguese Kingdom capital :^)

>>73765986
Cuba was a Spanish colony almost until the 20th century and they're still a shithole.

>>73765986

I can't tell you about Latin Americans being full of hubris, because they aren't. They know its a shithole, and only like it for the people they're surrounded with. But what I can tell you is that you're talking out of your ass over shit you know nothing about and should shut up.


t.hank you.

>>73766048
Doesn't Brazil already have states with a greater number of ethnic Portuguese than Portugal?

>>73766160
estimates say we have like 150 million portuguese descendents. Also there are like 2-3 million eligible for PT citizenship right now. which is only acceptable if you have at least a portuguese grandpa

>>73765986
Brazil is our warrior breeding ground. We're going to need them soon.

>>73766160
Their 2 biggest cities have more population than Portugal, although they aren't all Portuguese.

>>73765986
this too much shit in one single post to take it seriously m8

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Perú will try their best!

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>I mean who gives a shit about "freedom" when you can't even enjoy it, because if you were to walk out at night or even day really -you're at risk of either being kidnapped, murdered by drug lords or simply mugged by some favela monkey?
Why don't you guys just return to Spain and Portugal? You could tell them, hey, we're sorry, we made a mistake, it won't happen again. Heck, you could indirectly leech off EU moneys. Why won't you give up this foolishness? Independence clearly isn't working out for you.

Didn't read lmao

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>>73765986

>>73765986
That fucking wall of text. Learn to tldr faggot

There was a secret operation created two centuries ago called Operation Portubomb. And the goal is to remain shithole long enough for European and American powers to slowly eat themselves away with degeneracy. After global powers are weakened by their luxurious lifestyles, Brazil will attack and restore Portugal's power over Europe. The problem is, Portugal dumped too many niggers, and they aren't really known for long term thinking or planning.

brazil didn't rebel against portugal
simply, a prince rebelled against his father and became emperor of brazil

>>73765986
Our issues are rooted to the moment we were colonized, staying colonized wouldn´t have changed anything.
And why would they gave us money in the first place? If anything, were they in a economic crisis, they would easily rely on us through taxes or whatever to keep them rich and us poor. This wasn´t a paradise when the Iberians ruled.
You look at things so superficially that i suspect this is bait

>>73767041
And the Portuguese king himself kinda warned his son that he preferred his son to govern portugal than some republican rebels if independence was inevitable

>>73765986
the us of a

>>73766306
This

>>73765986

LOS

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>Argentina

>>73765986
Actually one of our writers thinks we lack pride
>By "Mongrel Complex" I mean the inferiority in which Brazilians put themselves, voluntarily, in comparison to the rest of the world. Brazilians are the reverse Narcissus, who spit in their own image. Here is the truth: we can’t find personal or historical pretexts for self-esteem.
Yeah our country is shit but you guys exaggerate too much. There are cities where it's not that violent. I've never seen a favela in my life. Also it was our Portuguese King D. Pedro I who gave us independence.

>>73765986
>You could've just stayed under colonial rule, mooched off their money
Now there's some profound ignorance of I ever saw it.

>>73767041
Which, you know, is how Portugal also started, so that's a nice rhyme, in a way.

>>73767224
Yeah. There's no way that Brazil would've stayed a colony for as long as the Africans did, much less until now, so independence was inevitable.

And to be honest, all things considered, it's nice that it wasn't anywhere as violent as it could've been. Which goes to show once again that Lusos are superior to H*spanics when it comes to not fighting their own blood.

>who spit in their own image. Here is the truth: we can’t find personal or historical pretexts for self-esteem.

Don't feel so specieal hueboy, that's literally all of Latin America.

>>73767547
Or it shows how weak Portugal was that they couldnt fight the french and your king had to escape to Brazil
But i love you anyway <3

>>73767681
Those are just, I think the word is, malinchistas. I can't picture a whole continent being so cucked by either the euros or the burgers.

>>73767547
this. it also allowed for a peaceful transition for brasil itself. it was one of the most powerful countries in the americas at the time of its independence with one of the more advanced and best constitutions in the world

>>73767721
but we did fight the french and win
also, as opposed to spain who basically opened their asses and said "come on in!"

>>73767721
What, as opposed to how Spain handled it?

Keep in mind this was 50 years after we had our capital leveled and 40 years after the Spaniards and French invaded our country.

To be honest. That's the entire new world has identity problems. The only ones excluded are Mexico, because they have their Aztec history well documented, and AMerica, because they have their superpower status to take pride in.


Even Canada lacks a proper identity.

>>73767793
brasil has identity it just choses to shit on it

>>73767838

*BRRRAAAAAAAP*


Brazil has multiple identities competing for the "one true identity" that's the problem with multiculturalism

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Being colonized by Iberians were a mistake itself. Accept your true Nordic overlords

>>73767751
Go to any spanish-speaking news site comment section or forum (that also includes sites from Spain) the self-deprecation/self-loathing is rampant. I think it's an iberian thing.

>>73767793
I'd say that after the US, Brazil has had the most cultural relevance to the world. It's not a close second place, but Brazil has had a strong impact in Music and Architecture and other such arts. And lets not forget the aeroplane AND the hot-air balloon, both demonstrated by Brazilian engineers, despite the memes.

Definitely more than both Mexico and Canada, the only other two contestants.

Food is also better than everywhere else that side of the Açores.

>>73767911
Why do I know that you're a gaucho?

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>>73765986

Learn to history m8, Spain got cucked by Napoleon (even though they were allies) and started a civil war, at the same time England was invading the american colonies, for example, Argentina was invaded twice (1806, 1807) and both invasions were repelled by local militia with almost no help from Spain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_invasions_of_the_River_Plate

Also some countries in South America aren't as bad as you think, numbers dont lie GDP (PPP) is pretty high compared to other countries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

>>73765986
because you don't need ''achievements'' to be proud of the place you live/were born, otherwise we all would be suicidal and depressive fucks, there's literally nothing wrong with enjoying the good aspects of your culture/people/country

>>73767496
Almost every failed country in the region you can name has a superiority complex. You just need to be realistic as a society. For instance, you barely see chileans on this board bragging about our achievements, although it's a well known fact that we have it way better than everyone else in South America both in paper and irl, but that is meaningless if we still live sorrounded by countries that can barely afford roads, and that we are not even near the 20 best cunts in the world, which is at what we aim. Of course you need to have some sense of patriotism but is pragmatism that makes countries develop.

>>73767972

What do you mean? I'm not a delusional mulatto claiming SOUTH BRAZIL GERMANIC N SHIEET. I've been to different regions in the country, and while "competing" is an exaggeration, the regions do feel completely foreign to one another.

>>73767770
>>73767782
Oh well, my mistake.
But do you think you had the strengh to fight a brazilian independence?

>>73768135
we did have some fights but both of us knew brasil had to come to be

>>73768106
Isn't that same in almost all countries? Southern America vs a place like New York.
If I'm not mistaken in Italia they have a standard Italian but each region has a different dialect that is as different from each other as portuguese and spanish and you see them saying that the guys from the north area different from the south. Germany has many places too like Bavarian which is the stereotype we have about germans but other germans complain they're not like Bavarians IIRC.
Spaniards have Catalans and Basques. etc..
Canada has Quebec where people speak french.

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Brazil just became independent because UK wanted it. Don't forget, friends.

>>73768135
>But do you think you had the strengh to fight a brazilian independence?
Not on our own, obviously not, but I suppose that any movement like that would have had some part of Brazil supporting which would've helped.

Keep in mind though that we still kept most of the navy and intellectual institutions and, well, harvested riches, so someone somewhere could've had that delusion that that would beat a large and defiant population so the idea of a prolonged battle is not out of the way.

Not to mention that some Spanish colonies were already independent at that point so they could've had support.

>>73768240
I think he means more than languages. Although since Brazil lands smack-dab in the equator, there isn't as much climate variation as there could be, with the exception of the south (obviously) and other areas that aren't populated anyway (rainforest and interior).

>>73768240

True enough. I guess I'm wrong here.

>>73768258

Eternal anglo.

>>73765986
what's up with these random autistis that know literally nothing about this part of the world and they don't even participate in our shitposting threads yet they feel like sharing their important opinion with us. you don't know anything about the americas, sorry.

You guys watch too many Liveleak videos. I've been mugged only once in my life, and all they took from me were 5 reais (not even 2 dollars).
Brazil and the most relevant LATAM countries have very nice spots to live. In fact, if you'r erich, there's no point at all leaving your country, because stuff is cheaper here and you can enjoy status.

>>73765986
>rebelled against Spain and Portugal which in hindsight was definitely a mistak

So, you believe not being under Austrian yoke anymore was a mistake?

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Fucking Spanish Empire was the worst to be colonized by I swear to God I mean even Portugal did it quite better, they didn't know how to manage anything, they just kept on exploiting resources and even so look at how they are now, the point is, things would be even worse if we were to be by "their side", I don't think I need to explain any further, anyways, your perspective on this issue is really retarded, I hope this is either bait or you just don't know shit about Latin America as much as I don't shit about Hungary...oh, and this >>73768024

>>73767480
whoa. what kind of a rifle is she carrying?
are guns legal there? which villa is that? villa belgrano?

>>73768633
yes it's villa general belgrano, it's probably the most dangerous place on the galaxy atm

>>73768165
>>73768333
Yeah, i suppose brazilian independence was inevitable.
I actually admire that the monarchy was kept. I think we would have benefited more from a king or emperor than a succesions of military leaders that don´t agree on anything. But then maybe not.
>>73768599
My man. Nice Ecuadorian Shipost memes

>>73768043
literally the only mestizo itt that fell for op's bait is you
way to go

>>73768726
>I actually admire that the monarchy was kept. I think we would have benefited more from a king or emperor than a succesions of military leaders
Yeah, but it didn't last for long, sadly. Fucking Americans, man.

>>offtopic

>Ecuadorian elections passed
>I thought Ecuador had a hope to be better with a non-commie president
>again that dump is elected


I'm sorry for your, ma dearssss ;_:

>>73768470
It is a sing of the upcoming relevance the region will have. Latin America will be, literraly, the only decent region that is going to matter in a future where most of the Earth's population will be on Africa. "Terrific" countries like India and China will be more competives than Europe/U.S. or Japan/Korea.

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>>73768680
>some argentinian favela
>most dangerous place on the galaxy

this was aprehended by the police during a raid in Rio

>>73768846
It lasted a whole generation
and now brasil isn't torn in pieces unlike spanish america
so that's pretty cool i guess
but fuck the republicans tho

>>73768726
The only worthy Shitpost in all the ecuadorian memes sphere.

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>>73769019
>now brasil isn't torn in pieces unlike spanish america
thank him


but, being frank, that's a bad thing :////////

>>73769107
except it isn't tho?

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>>73768992
a big time drug lady was arrested and they found this with her. She nicknamed herself "Dealer Templar"

>>73769107
>but, being frank, that's a bad thing :////////
Even bolsomeme doesn't agree
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6ERIiyjmWM

>>73768992
I thought so too, that the Brazilian favelas are the most dangerous in the world until i saw some liveleak videos from Villa Belgrano in Buenos Aires. It is literally full of Brayans that are the descendants of german nazis chimping out on each other burning each other alive and shit. It is very depressing.

>>73765986
Thing is pride is almost always an irrational thing. You usually feel proud for things you just got by luck. As far as I am concerned, I like the place I live in and the majority of people that surround me.

>>73769107
>that's a bad thing
It gives you more inertia: i.e. it's harder to get out of shit and change in a big way, but it will also support you guys once you get your path straightened down.

For now, it's easier to make your country self-reliant, and focus a lot of money in a small place that can make a world-wide impact and build from there (you know, when you solve corruption - Brasília could've been this but it was a mistake).

It's what the US did with New York, for the most part. Focus all your might into one place, and use it to get into the big league and start helping everything else.

Smaller countries simply can't do it for lack of resources or numbers, but it is also harder to align everyone onto the same goal knowing that someone will benefit more than the others.

>>73769305
What is the best place to live in Costa Rica?
Ticos keep telling me to stay away from San Jose.

>>73768888
Nice Quads.
Oh, don´t remind me. The problem is that most of our people are too stupid or poorly informed that our country is in an econoic crisis. It also didn´t help that Correa and his thugs set a dirty campaign on the opposition.
So now we have an ill president that'd probably leave in less than a year, and be replaced by a very corrupt vice-president, who's directly involved with the Odebrecht case.

>>73768793
>Argie butthurt
Never change Nahuel

>>73769616
chana

>>73769407
For general access to services and jobs, you usually want to be near one of the four principal cities.San Jose is pretty shitty in general. Only a few wealthy parts are nice. I would say is better to live in Heredia or Cartago. Alajuela is better than San Jose, but I found it too hot. Those are the "metropolitan areas" here.

*brap*

>>73769700
ok, thanks.

>>73768846
It was partly on Pedro's fault for not looking for a heir.
Though his own success caused his reign's demise, sadly. The young elite of his latter days never admired his efforts because they didn't live in bad times, thanks to him.

>>73766357
Fucking weeb go back.

>>73765986
>which in hindsight was definitely a mistake
I love when retards post like this implying that being a colony was good. They're free now, and in charge of their own land and resources, moron.

>>73769943
>the irony of an american flag saying this

>>73769943
Until you came with your Imperialism and bullied us!!
Jk ily

>>73769916
He's a very distinguished and respected member of this board. Don't insult him, pls.

>>73769989
What did he mean by this?
>>73769997
Yeah sorry about that man, we're cunts too.

>>73769989
I doubt most Americans would find their brand of imperialism likeable, if only they were aware of it

>>73770004
He is using those cancerous walfass normalfag tier images. What the hell, fucking faggots, burn in hell. Goddamn cringe.

>>73769916
rude

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>>73765986
We feel pride because we are Amerindians, and we are in the land of our Amerindian ancestors.

We kicked colonialists and reclaimed our territory.

We are Amerindians, who live and die with honor and strength for our land of old.

Why shouldn't we feel proud?

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>>73766392
This lol

>>73770004
no he isn't
the spaniard is actually right on this one

>>73770170
>Amerindian
>Argentina
More like negro de mierda hahahah

>>73770119
neither would spaniards or the pirates. or nazi germany. it was long time ago, it is about time you guys get over it. we are nice and cuddly now. it is time you start improving your cunts without our interference.

>>73770235
We are the definition of Amerindian.

>>73769916
don't insult based peru you motherfucking manolotard bitch desu

>>73770267
i.e. do it while we're looking at the OTHER brown people.

>>73770320
I'm peruvian you fucking mongoloid chilango cucaracho weeaboo manlet.

The average latin American is a 2 digit IQ mongrel midget with no education and no future.
The only thing they can be proud of are things that have nothing to do with them like their football club or things that would better off without them like their countries.
Me personally I only know people who fucking hate this country because I only associate with white educated people.

>>73767920
it's more like a third-world country thing, since we do that, a lot.

>>73768992
That was a brazilian favela you fucking retard, the poster was being ironic, villa general belgrano is a middle class german-argentine town

el buliado seniores jakajajkaakajkajka >>73770407
tiene miedo de salir porque al toque los amerindios le sarpan el celu juajuajk

>>73770407
>All the people are like this except me. I'm the special snowflake, the albert einstein of latin america
t. average man

>>73770499
Ah, now the picture do looks familiar in a Brazilian landscape

I don't care about much stuff in Argentina, why would I know about the real Belgrano?

>>73770366
i mean that particular cute peru that will do their best. i don't care where you are from but you better behave.

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>>73769916
4chan is for weebs, newfriend.
Lurk two years before posting.

>>73770573
Old meme. Anime is for degenerates.

>>73770518
>Everyone is the average, there is no way in hell that people in 4chan may belong to a minority group or an upper class
Crab mentality
I'm not average in the slightest.
>>73770550
You dont need to know about Argentina to recognize a picture of Brazil

>>73770518
>the albert einstein of latin america
puta merda, lembrei daquele meme do "ninguém menos que albert einstein"
muito bom
vou voltar a usar

>>73770694
>a self congratulary and egotistical argie
Yeah m8 they really broke the mold when they made you.

>>73770746
I'm objectivelly right in my statement, I'm not average, why should I pretend I am? I dont care about your stupid memes.

>>73770694
It's funny that you have to point out "white educated"
I doubt that you're smarter than Machado de Assis, Artur Avila or Heitor villa-lobos. And if you're are why haven't I heard about you?

>>73770746
argies are americans of latin america

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>>73770804
laughing more than i should of your posts

>>73770857
>porteños are 3rd world americans*
ftfy

>>73770828
Your argument is either nonsensical or poorly expressed.

>>73770986
>Me personally I only know people who fucking hate this country because I only associate with white educated people.
From the context of your post this implies that all the mediocre people are non-whites. Which is ridiculous. Brazil has produced great minds who happens to be pardos or blacks like in the case of the great Machado de Assis.
I doubt these "white educted people" can hold a candle to these great minds.

>>73767793
i thought the spaniards destroyed almost everything that could be linked to aztec history and culture in the name of christianity

>>73768992

>old POS

This shit prolly don't even work, if did we'd be seeing lots of caveirões blown away.

>>73771161
no they did not
tons of people who speak aztec and mayan still live today
they're just catholic now

>>73771123
>From the context of your post this implies that all the mediocre people are non-whites
I strongly suggested they are the vast majority not quite literally everyone.
> Brazil has produced great minds who happens to be pardos or blacks like in the case of the great Machado de Assis.
I doubt these "white educted people" can hold a candle to these great minds.
I dont give a shit about your cherrypicked outliers, you intellectually dishonest pardo.

>>73771253
I'm mixed but not pardo.
All the great minds are fucking outliers. Do you think every anglo is Isaac Newton?

>>73771161
You thought wrong

>>73771311
No, but anglos have an average IQ over 100 and pardos/mestizos have an average IQ around 80.
I'm personally a 137 IQ, hence why I'm not average in a country with an average of 96 which is btw the highest of the region as low as it is.
You're arguing against shit I never said, leave that poor man of straw be

>>73770936
kek, well said
however when i funpost as an evil imperialist gringo not many people fall for it
but you guys manage to trigger everyone
your neighbors particularly
every time

>>73770407
This.
We live in a shithole because we are shits. No president will change that.
>>73771123
Also this, Machado do Assis is a genius.

>>73771830
sadly our neighbors sometimes are salty towards us for not apparent reason

some days ago an argentine posted the argie easter toad (who was white btw) asking in spanish why didn't americans celebrate eastern and the only ones commenting were a chilean and a hue being buttblasted because the toad was white (the br even made an ''argentina is white'' thread btw)

Croatia, Romania, Czechia and Slovakia need more land.

>>73771830
In terms of GDP Brazil is the USA of Latin America and in the sacred football too we're 5 times champion of the world.
They have Messi and Maradona. We have Pelé, Ronaldo, Romario, Ronaldinho, Garrincha, Zico etc..
in F1 argentines have Fangio. We have Senna, Piquet and Fittipaldi.
In Literature they have who? I think Cortazar maybe
we have Machado de Assis, Guimarães Rosa, Jorge Amado, Clarice Lispector, Lima Barreto, José de Alencar, Euclides da Cunha etc... I'm not even mentioning our infinite list of poets.

>>73772192
I once mentioned to a chilean a neighbourhood in my home city that is exclusively chilean and he started replying to me in very upset regional spanish. Pretty sure those come fron nido though.

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Peru has the best cookies.

>>73772357
True but I am mostly talking about the perception of different countries/regions on /int/ as being arrogant, looking down on other cunts etc. Argentines (portenos) have this reputation and I think some of them funpost to perpetuate it further. Which is similar to how some of us burgers funpost about war mongering etc.

>>73772357
Padre António Vieira was basically Brazilian as well.

It's really a bit sad that Portugal (and by extension/tradition/inheritance Brazil) put all our renaissance art points into Literature more than anything, which is the only artform that requires you to learn something (a language) to even consume, let alone enjoy and think about.

We both really had/have some god-tier writers and poets, but nobody outside the Lusos would be able to read them.

>>73772357
>Not mentioning Borges or Sabato
Keep in mind that Brazil has a much bigger population, so of course you'd have more writers in total. And sorry, but as much as i like brazilian literature, no one tops Borges.

>>73772823
Ok I admit I fucked up by not mentioning Borges.

>>73765986
Basically we didn't want to pay taxes up north so we started a lot of shit, and somewhere along the lines they ended up having to pick up the tab, but they didn't want to do it either so they told Spain to go fuck itself.

>>73772357
>In terms of GDP Brazil is the USA of Latin America

The US at least has a respectable GDP per capita tho

>>73772357
How many nobels in science you got again?
All you got is a massive population

>>73773013
Brazil is shit not because of race like your 4channers believe but because of populist/socialist/communist type of government. Our presidents have been on the majority white or close to white.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_Brazil
This country always for some reason hated the free market and decentralizing power.

>>73765986
>rebelled against Spain and Portugal which in hindsight was definitely a mistake

We declared (((independence))) because United Kingdom wanted to and the freemasons helped too, not because of us

>>73765986
everything you said is wrong or doesn't make sense.

most people is not proud but self-hater.

we didn't rebel against anyone, it was some people 200 years ago that has nothing to do with us.

our "culture" is totally different from Spain. we don't "think" like them.

no nation on Earth is poorer than 200 years ago. technology, labour force, infrastructure, etc, is totally different today.

no Latin American nation fell into decay, all countries kept on developing and following different economic cycles.

>>73773153
We have a fields medal which is even more amazing :P
see if you can understand anything:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHO7plsEhHM
And we don't have a nobel prizes but we have dumont and
>Cesare Mansueto Giulio Lattes (11 July 1924 – 8 March 2005), also known as Cesar (or César) Lattes, was a Brazilian experimental physicist, one of the discoverers of the pion, a composite subatomic particle made of a quark and an antiquark.

>>73773196
That happens when a big part of the population is below middle class

>>73765986
>I mean who gives a shit about "freedom" when you can't even enjoy it, because if you were to walk out at night or even day really -you're at risk of either being kidnapped, murdered by drug lords or simply mugged by some favela monkey?
Projecting

>>73773196
Of course its a shithole because of race, what could a white president do when half the country is fucking black? look how much Americans struggle and they are only 12% and segregated

>>73773196
>be argentinian
>do a post pointing out per capita based metrics when comparing countries
>anon from other country replies
>it's not actually about the original comment
>it's about race

at this point I'm 100% sure it's every other country the ones obsessed with whiteness rather than us
and most of what you said also applied to Argentina desu

>>73773395
The majority of Brazil isn't black.

>>73773551
And in the USA they were segregated. In Brazil black people act just like the whitest people.

>>73773400
Just look at the comment above yours.

>>73773621
Do you mean
>>73772875
>>73772870
or
>>73772823
?

Because none of them mention race either

>>73773551
Pardos and blacks are the majority

>>73768992
http://www.biobiochile.cl/noticias/2015/10/27/detienen-a-sujeto-que-portaba-armamento-de-guerra-en-santiago.shtml

>>73773677
he mean >>73773395
no te hagas el boludo

>>73773677
I mean >>73773395 and now >>73773704
This dude doesn't know that Brazil had a time where it wasn't as violent (unfortunately in the dictatorship) but after the dictatorship all the communists or lite communists took power and they fucked up the country.

>>73773742
Of course he'd reply talking about race towards someone that brings race into the conversation on the first place. Are you serious?

>>73773395
No, it's not because race. The historical reasons that brought a race to where it is now. Most blacks in America were segregated, yes, but because they were all brought as slaves. Sure, Africa is all black people, and they are undeveloped, but because many factors made them undeveloped, not race itself.
Blaming race is what ignorant people say, because it's what most obvious to them.

>>73772357

No one gives a fuck about Portugese literature, Borges alone is more relevant than all those cucks you mentioned.

>>73773878
Machado:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFv8ZOx7znQ
Rosa:
>The combination of its size, linguistic oddness and polemic themes caused a shock when it was published, but now it is widely regarded as one of the greatest works of Brazilian literature and one of the most important novels of Portuguese language literature and South American literature.
>In a 2002 poll of 100 noted writers conducted by the Bokklubben World Library, the book was named among the top 100 books of all time.[2]

Vargas Llosa was influenced by Euclides da Cunha

>>73773833
Yeah because only mestizos and mulatos were discriminated and discrimination somehow altered their IQ...
They just werent privileged like those italian, jewish and chinese laborers

>>73773980
more about machado:
>Machado's works had a great influence on Brazilian literary schools of the late 19th and early 20th centuries. In 1941, the Brazilian Academy of Letters founded in his honor the Prêmio Machado de Assis (Machado de Assis Prize), the most prestigious literary award in Brazil. José Saramago, Carlos Fuentes, Thomas McGuane and Susan Sontag are among his admirers, and Woody Allen has expressed enthusiasm for one of Machado's novels.[5]

>Machado de Assis was included on American literary critic Harold Bloom's list of the greatest 100 geniuses of literature, alongside writers such as Dante, Shakespeare and Cervantes. Bloom considers him the greatest black writer in Western literature
Fuck you cisplatina. Don't make me angry or I'll make you part of brazil again

>>73773980
You don't seem to understand how comparisons work, friend. You take both subjects and compare them on the exact same way. All I'm seeing is literally copy-pasting a Brazilian's writer wiki and that's it.

>>73774121
I just posted a video of an American (unbiased) scholar talking about Machado. If you want there's this German guy who came to brazil and learned portuguese just to understand Rosa in the original. This is how great rosa is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jcfpbm7owCo
Borges is great but our writers are just as great.

>>73766392
>>73770180
same hahahah

Since there are no first world Latin American countries, are there any first world Latin American states/provinces?

>>73774412
Why do you want to know? for what purpose other than SAmonkeys shitting on each other? fuck off

>>73774571
I'm genuinely curious
It's not my fault if SAmericans start shitting on each other

>>73774656
There's 2 Latin American countries with very high HDI, you know this, you're baiting.

>>73774035
Indeed. The caste system was kept after independence, and indians still were enslaved for a long time. Of course if you are enslaved or are oppressed in some way influences your IQ, it's obvious.
And you are comparing very old cultures (not races) with young ones. Mestizos are indians are very recent cultures.
>>73774412
Most big cities here tend to reflect the nation's racial and economical make up of the country, therefore theres a lot of unequality. But maybe South Brazil is the closest to what you're looking for

>>73773753
That's what I was always curious about. Apparently the favela violence culture is a relatively recent thing? So the american backed military govt wasn't a terrible thing? They didn't throw anyone off the planes did they?

>>73774743
Yes colonial slavery affects the IQ of people living today, that makes loads of sense.
Also the age of the cultures is absolutely relevant for example the mestizos and indios of argentina only had a mere hundreds of years to develop themselves in the country while privileged Italians and Jews had like 60-80 looooooooooong years to integrate
Also injuns,mestizos,blacks and mulattos being complete utter failures GLOBALLY doesnt mean shit, only my latin American bubble matters of course, I'm going to dust off some totally relevant colonial history books and opens veins of latin America to show everyone how smart I am

>>73774956
What? So youre telling me that ethnic italians only existed after the unification? Or that jews only appeared after the creation of Israel?
Slavery creates an unequal society, in which the majority is poor which still lingers today. Our countries are very unequal. And of course, poor people can't afford education or enough food, and when in large numbers, would significantly lower the IQ of any country.
And not, i'm not referring only to our continent. Every poor country's undevelopness can be explained by that. Saying it's because race and end of story doesn't hold truth, and it's very superficial.

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>>73768680
It sure is

>>73766116
b-but real communism has never been tried

>>73767209
>Our issues are rooted to the moment we were colonized
No, it was in the moment anglos start their propaganda and campaign to fuck up Spanish Empire in America, the idea to divide 4 big virreinatos into more small countries and open them to free trade. Example of Río de la Plata, big virreinato with mineral resources, wood resources, leather and food; they divided into Bolivia (mineral resources), Argentina (food and leather), Paraguay (wood resources) and Uruguay (to divide the control of río de la plata).

>This wasn´t a paradise when the Iberians ruled
If you analyze the 300 years of Spanish history in America, I mean reading archives, not anglo history books, you will be surprised and you will not believe what you will see, maybe it will be very hard for you to accept the truth, "no hay nadie más ciego que el que no quiere ver" and the sad reality is that there was no greater period of peace and stability in the history of the entire American continent than during the Spanish virreinatos, all Hispanics made more money in 1800 than in 1900.

>>73768599
Parece que cuánto más indios hay en un país hispanoamericano más subnormal es este país

>>73777517

Porque los indios salvajes y brutales se mestizaron con los españoles sanguinarios, creando una raza incompatible con la civilización.

>>73777594
esto
todo es culpa del mestizaje maligno

>>73771161
Wrong ignorant nordcuck, thanks to the spanish we have filed the aztec history, an empire dying in the landing of the conquistadores

>>73773201
this guy knows the deal

>>73773248
La involución de América from 1800 to 1900

>>73765986
Blow me hungry.

>>73765986
The only reason they separated from them was because of the Irish and their "freedumbs" meme
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernardo_O'Higgins

>>73765986
i'm happy in here, that's all that matters
>I mean who gives a shit about "freedom" when you can't even enjoy it, because if you were to walk out at night or even day really -you're at risk of either being kidnapped, murdered by drug lords or simply mugged by some favela monkey?
nice projection

>>73767920
We only talk bad about ourselves and we're the only ones allowed to do it. I've seen people that bitch every day but get retardedly pissed if someone talks bad about Uruguay.

>>73777103
They were somehow even worse before communism, not an excuse

>>73765986
>write a bible of garbage out of a completely flawed and inaccurate premise
Wew, one would think that for someone to write such a long thing, they might stop for a moment and see if what they are saying is true in any way whatsoever.

>>73778458
this is true about every cunt on /int/.
there are three levels:
they talk shit about themselves (acceptable)
other cunts talk shit about them (causes a mild butthurt)
americans talk shit about them (full throttle assblast mode)

>>73778567
the last level is not true at all

>>73778487
hahahahahaaha

>>73778653
¿?

>>73769916
t. Al Khawarimi Bin Kutub Tayeeb

>>73778665
He shitpost that thing trying to make us guilty, no word about USA

>>73770649
>>>/pol/

>>73778608
forgot another level: the neighbors

>>73778771
should be that instead of americans desukara

>>73765986
It was all planed by those fucking Brits, allied with local merchants and aristocrats who wanted more power than the amount the crown let them. All our independence "heroes" are traitors who allied with the heretics for a stupid fucking dream of "muh great south American homeland" which ended up with a bunch of warring states that didn't even care when they died. Independence was a mistake, our times as viceroyalties were the best in our entire history, our republics are mere corrupt and unpleasant shitholes nobody trust. Bolivar was an idiot, San Martin was a cuck and they ruined everything. I give a fuck if I trigger you.
>muh traitor
>muh we were freed from espanosh opreshun at least.
Yeah, we went from overseas provinces of a pretty dumb but still generous empire to bitch protectorates of the British and training ground for the French.
Fucking revolution, it ruined everything.

>>73765986
I ain't gonna read all this shit written by (you)

They are proud because they have low iqs and don't understand how to be civilized

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>>73780291
Higher IQ does not necesarely coorelates with being civilized.

>>73780546
¿Para qué le contestás?. Panama speaks Spanish, right?

>>73780600
Claro, hablamos castellano en la franja canalera.

>>73770207
Typical argentinean sucking Daddy's cock so he'll be seen as European (African)

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Just like french Guiana, right?

>>73765986
Chile and Argentina aren't that shit-tier right?

>>73781133
no, that peruvian really is shit
have you been browsing during the merges?

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>>73769916
Oh leave him alone.

This fucking thread. Damn it feels good to be chilean and to live in the best country in Latin America by far.

>>73781479
but that's argentina

>>73781493
If you say so, no problem. Keep the way you're doing. Good job breh.

>>73781493
>argentina
>a
Try finishing high school after making any claim.

>>73781553
i'm on my second year of civil engineering lel
wished the uba was less filled with mapuches

>>73781553
Tamos weando en 4chan no seai amargo

>>73781600
is that mapudungun?

>>73781583
Kill them if you love your country. Or are you one of those that plan on getting the fuck out when you finish your career?

>>73781610
Better learn it, we own your ass and you know it, or should

>>73781626
no i'll work in me dad's company

>>73781632
cool now clean my street pls

>>73781651
>no i'll work in me dad's company
JASJKAJAKJSKJAKJKJSKJAKJSJAJAJKSJAKJAS MY DAD'S COMPANY """"COMPANY"""" He doesn't even knows about his country's laws JAJJASJASJAJSJAJSJAJ

They are called either corportations or fundations you ignorant negro villero. There are no "companies" the fuck are you talking about stop watching american series give me a break.

>>73781692
>JASJKAJAKJSKJAKJKJSKJAKJSJAJAJKSJAKJAS
whoa calm down
seriously, breathe
are you ok?

might accidentally kill a native american, wtf

>>73781748
Are you tho? Srsly, why are you people so envious is beyond comprehension. It's not like it is your fault unless it's you Kristina posting

>>73781858
wut
that's some sudden 360 turn

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>>73765986
>Lets ignore the fact that they mostly benefited the colonizers themselves, the fact that westerners cant have colonies anymore thanks to the UN, the fact that they may have dissolved later for some other reason, the fact that Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, etc. are in the top 20 richest countries in the world, and lets just all give up our autonomy and beg a country that is as rich as Mexico, and one that is less rich than Pakistan so we can can achieve: _____

Tell me 1 single thing that would benefit us by giving away our autonomy that we don't have already, OP.

>>73781924
We can run your country if you let us (business idea)

>>73781975
can't even run your own posts though

>>73781975
y tho

>>73781994
We could make mexico great for once? We are doing it over here. Look at Uruguay and Paraguay (I know Paraguay seems meh, but just wait a couple of years).

refrain from posting under the flag hungary from now on, or do it on pol

>>73782092
but he did exactly what he wanted to, showcase latino lower races as the whimsical "nationalist" monkeys they are

>>73782074
But arent argentina and brazil the ones doing the south at the south tho?.

Also I think you overestimate how poor we are

>>73782151
No they are dead. It's only gdp which means nothing. We run the show. Just look at the armed forces on our neighbouring countries. We control the pacific in this region and we are the link to the US for those produce sales. Why is it argie lemons are banned in the US? Why did the Brazilian rotten meat affair broke up when they decided to involve chilean polititians in their corruption scandals? Anyway, enough for today. I only come here to practice my english while on leave.

>>73782151
very easy way to generate butthurt, cheater

>>73782336
you should stay :)

>>73765986
USA

>>73782441
buen post papu

>>73765986
Mexico, LITERALLY has a higher life expectancy than Hungary

>>73766116
Yes, and they were one of the richest places in the world, richer than the mainland

>>73767974
Luego a esos mismos realistas que expulsaron a los ingleses los mataron