How is this woman regarded by Mexicans?

>>73737926
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malinchism

Yeah I'm on mobile get fucked.

>>73737926
>How is this woman regarded by Mexicans?
She's a traitor.

>>73738046
says the Chi Kek

>>73738110
he's right though, there's a reason why "malinchista" is an insult

>>73738020
>>73738110
Yup, this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malinchism

>>73738134
you can't spell "malinCHIsta" without CHI

>>73737926
The biggest traitor in the history, after Santa Ana of course.

>>73737926
Basic level education:
>she was a fucking traitor! burn her to hell!!!

Beyond secondary
>She was a slave who was able to speak Nahuatl and Mayan, so she, alongside to Gerónimo de Aguilar who knew Mayan and castellan where the interpreter for Cortes who had a vision of a state that less educated conquistadores like Pizzaro lacked. So she was just doing as instructed because slaves don't have opinions.

>>73738298
she still willingly fucked Cortés

>>73738046
>>73738134
>>73738517
CHI

>>73738143
>>73738020
That is one AMAZING word.
Fuck thank you lads, this word describes Sweden perfectly.

>Malinalli [maliˈnalːi], Malintzin [maˈlintsin] or Doña Marina [ˈdoɲa maˈɾina], was a Nahua woman from the Mexican Gulf Coast
Are Nahua women attractive?

>>73738568
You don't have a word for sellout?

>>73738598
A ''sellout'' is a rather vague and nebulous term that can be used in almost any situation. This word, Malinchism is precise and describes the situation perfectly.

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>>73738584
Like this but probably less clothed since she was a slave.

Now imagine you're a sailor who has been at sea staring at nothing but hairy Spanish man ass for months.

[spoiler] thicc [/spoiler]

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>>73737926

>>73737926
She was enslaved be the Aztecs if I recall well, helping at destroying them was a patriotic duty for her. Also falling for an alpha like Cortez it's the natural course, heck the people there sold they daughters to the conquistadores for gaining influence, at least she seemed to love him.

>>73738020

So am I a malinchist if I have no interest in local girls only for the fact they are local?

There is literally nothing wrong with Malinchism

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>>73739824
You're me.

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>>73739945
This.

>>73737926
would fuck

Who.

>>73739945
>>73739976
t. self-hating weaboos

>>73740005
CHI

>>73738707

Why are third worlder women always carrying stuff on their head

>>73739990
This.

>>73740186
Because they have no backpacks and want to look beautiful

>>73737926
>And what do Spaniards today think of her?

I don't think most spaniards know who she is.

>How is this woman regarded by Mexicans?

The funny thing is that most mexicans nowaday don't descend from aztecs and basicaly she helped her people to defeat their enemy.

>>73737926
Cortez was clearly a man of refined taste

>>73738517
>implying she could resist the big iberian cock

>>73741587
>Cortez

I see many people writing his name this way. Is this how you write Hernán Cortés in czech? Btw, cortés means courteous in spanish.

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I like genzos artwork

>>73741461
>The funny thing is that most mexicans nowaday don't descend from aztecs

Is it because most of them died?

>>73737926
why don't 3d women look as beautiful as this 2d woman?

>>73745251
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Tenochtitlan#The_surrender

Basically. It's also funny that they chose to name their country with the name of the nation that sacrificed and slaughtered them before spaniards arrived.

>>73745251
Because most of them descended from other tribes, the ones they were raiding, enslaving and sacrefizing every day.

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>>73738631
well you can tell your friendly yes sweden friends that you are learning about new cultures.

I'm not a Mexicunt and even I find this woman absolutely disgusting.

>>73738046
>Traitor talking shit about traitors

>>73741621
Cortez is the anglo way of pronunciation. Remember english phonetics are as random as spanish ortography

Why would Mexicans even care, it's not like they're Aztecs anyway? Also, history is full of traitors, don't see how this slave girl was relevant in any way.

>>73746171
Why? She was enslaved (I don't remember if they were the Aztecs or one of they vasssals) and was a fucktoy until Cortes used her as translator. She ended a noble if I recall well, after destroying one of the most cuntish nations of the era.
It's like people than hate the Tlaxcalans. They were surrounded be enemies than only let them be "free" to farm warrior to sacrifice. Of course when they had the oportunity they were utter cunts vs the Aztec population, but it was after hundreds of years of opression and losing the best warrior every few years.

>>73749689
the aztecs doesn't deserve to go out like that
the lesson here is violence trumps morality

>>73751008

The Aztecs deserved worse.

>>73751174
majority, not only the aztecs, all natives, died to disease my friendly moortugal. So there is that to calm yourself at night.

>>73751174
not really

you only feel negatively toward them because you think you can sympathize with their victims but in reality european imperialism is much worse

>>73738298
This^

>>73751321
Well it was better than beign sacrificed by getting my heart riped from my body with a sharped rock for some stupid reason.

>>73751174
Do you even know how the war between Aztecs and Spanish started?

>While Hernán Cortés was in Tenochtitlan, he heard about other Spaniards arriving on the coast – Pánfilo de Narváez had come from Cuba with orders to arrest him – and Cortés was forced to leave the city to fight them. During his absence, Moctezuma asked deputy governor Pedro de Alvarado for permission to celebrate Toxcatl (an Aztec festivity in honor of Tezcatlipoca, one of their main gods). But after the festivities had started, Alvarado interrupted the celebration, killing almost everyone present at the festival, men, women, and children alike.
>The Spanish version of the incident claims the conquistadors intervened to prevent a ritual of human sacrifice in the Templo Mayor; the Aztec version says the Spaniards were enticed into action by the gold the Aztecs were wearing, prompting an Aztec rebellion against the orders of Moctezuma. While differing so on Alvarado's specific motive, both accounts are in basic agreement that the celebrants were unarmed and that the massacre was without warning and unprovoked.

>>73751321
>not really
>

Good goy.

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>>73751436
this

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>>73751548
Good luck im not a woman.

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>>73737926
Literally every native woman accepted and helped the Spaniard Conquerors.
The men were used as workforce, the women didn't suffer as much.

>>73751436
but you culture would live on

it was literally and figuratively for the greater good

if it was up to the europeans everything would be gone

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>>73751436
depends. With the diseases, encomienda system, and inquisitions, shit was disgusting also.

>>73751683
nor a Jew.

>>73745499
>It's also funny that they chose to name their country with the name of the nation that sacrificed and slaughtered them
european hypocrisy everyone

>The origins of the Roman name Hispania, from which the modern name España was derived, are uncertain due to inadequate evidence, although it is documented that the Phoenicians and Carthaginians referred to the region as Spania, therefore the most widely accepted etymology is a Semitic-Phoenician one.

>>73751763
And earth as a whole would be a clean and prosperous civilization. If all were ruled by Europeans and our proteges and the barbarians ruled nothing and were but our servants. Were that the case we would already be walking among the stars. Unburdened by the weight of billions of savages.

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>>73751763
>but you culture would live on
It still does.

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tl;dr

>>73751925
The Roman ruled celtic "Spanish" hold little in common with the descendants of Visigothic tribes and Moors that inhabited Spain by the time of colonisation, barring perhaps the Galicians and the Basque peoples.

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>>73752012
if only

>Tenochtitlan was founded on an islet in the western part of the lake in the year 1325. Around it, the Aztecs created a large artificial island using a system similar to the creation of chinampas. To overcome the problems of drinking water, the Aztecs built a system of dams to separate the salty waters of the lake from the rain water of the effluents. It also permitted them to control the level of the lake. The city also had an inner system of channels that helped to control the water.

>During Cortés' siege of Tenochtitlan in 1521, the dams were destroyed, and never rebuilt, so flooding became a big problem for the new Mexico City built over Tenochtitlan.

>Mexico City suffered from periodic floods; in 1604 the lake flooded the city, with an even more severe flood following in 1607. Under the direction of Enrico Martínez, a drain was built to control the level of the lake, but in 1629 another flood kept most of the city covered for five years.

>Eventually the lake was drained by the channels and a tunnel to the Pánuco River, but even that could not stop floods, since by then most of the city was under the water table. The flooding could not be completely controlled until 1967, with the construction of a Deep Drainage System.

>The ecological consequences of the draining were enormous. Parts of the valleys were turned semi-arid, and even today Mexico City suffers for lack of water. Due to overdrafting that is depleting the aquifer beneath the city, Mexico City is estimated to have dropped 10 meters in the last century. Furthermore, because soft lake sediments underlie most of Mexico City, the city has proven vulnerable to soil liquefaction during earthquakes, most notably in the 1985 earthquake when hundreds of buildings collapsed and 45 000 lives were lost.

>>73752018
that's not real
>>73752012
europeans know only blood and war

the good things, philosophy, art, music, etc are imports from barbarians

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>>73745251
The main allies of the Spanish, the Tlaxcalans, were also Aztecs. The ones who died, the Mexicas, had colonies throughout all Mesoamerica.
After the war the Spanish interviewed many Mexica priests and warriors, both from Tlatelolco and Tenochtitlan, so obviously not everyone died. The Mexica even participated in the conquest of New Spain alongside of the Tlaxcaltecs and Spanish.
Ironically, both the Tlaxcaltecs and the Mexica went to New Mexico together to seek for their Aztec origin. Pic Related

>>73737926
Would tap and murder her enslavers.

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>>73738517
Cortez was like the most alpha dude in history. He rekt a multi million nation of corn eating manlets with just him and 400 of his hombres.

I'd say... he was an honorary Texan.

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>>73753968

>>73738143
Sounds like the Spanish word for weeaboo

>>73752174
I have seen these maps but never see the overlay or how the image in the bottom could actually have been the image on top. IMO the city should move the imbitants and restore the lake. Much of the modern city would instead be at the edge of the lake.

>amerindians didn't work together to overthrow the mexica and then turn on the spaniards and kill them all

Smh I could've been a proud mesoamerican warrior but now I'm a malignant mix with an embarrassing history

>>73745499
Well we call ourselves Charruas and we killed them all.

They deserved it though, always trading with the portuguese, stealing thing and selling land, bunch of traitors.

>>73754740
Mexicans are proof that hybrid vigor is bullshit. Take good Aztec blood, mix with good Spanish blood, get a low key race of shuffling drywallers.
5'4"

>>73754886
We are 6'4 on average and we beat up Anglos and Blacks for fun.

>>73754740
pic related is why, also Spaniards forbid iron mining throughout the 300 years of the colonial period so indians could not produce weapons

>>73738179
Traitor to who retarded? She was enslaved by the savage aztecs, she hate the bloody aztecs like all mexico 500 years ago

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>>73742382
Mauricio Herrera's illustration are better imho. They're good and not that sexualized.

>>73755359
They could've stolen weapons. Or revolted, captured a few Spaniards, and forced them to teach them how to make iron.

>>73756709
they were not in conditions to even organize >>73755430 no one knew if the leader of the revolt would survive the day

If my own people sold me to, say, Canadians or Georgians I too would be salty as fuck.

Besides, it took enormous balls which is always admirable in a human that lacks them.

>>73751786
The disaes were a two way street, lots of Tropical disaes killed nearly all the Spanish population in the havanna and others places with regularity.
The encomienda system was feudal, not that different with the Spanish ones and varied from parts to part of the country it was enforced, normally lightly painted over an anterior system. About the Inquisition, only Spaniards (ie. Castizos and Peninsulares) were under they watch, and then a total of 50 in some hundred of years were killed (mostly kikes and Protestants) the natives and mestizos were strongly encouraged to pray to god in the catholic way but after the conquest it was mostly the soft power of the church than did the leg work, soldiers only enforcing it if some revolt happened.