How Americanized in your cunt?

>>73695233
>Degenerate aspects of American culture doesn't reach here because of linguistic barrier
but you are the most degenerate country in the world, senpai.

>>73695304

??何

You watch too much porn senpai

Is it true that there are no japanese words for western utensils and they just go

FORKU

SPOONU

KNIFU

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>>73695233
The overbooking incident was merely a product of a "belligerent" passenger, and a police officer that might have played a part in the man hitting his head on the armrest.

Literally every airline overbooks. It's just that United got the short straw. The incident is in no way representative of how the US works; you need better things to judge us on.

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>>73695304
no need to make excuses, senpai. we look to import more of your degeneracy.

>>73695370

Japanese word for Knife is "Hō Chō" but we say "Naifu" also

Very cucked

>>73695454

Is this Photoshop?

The only degenerate thing I see are Kimo Otaka anime culture

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>>73695485
>is this Photoshop?
looks like a normal day to in japan to me.

Here in Mexico there's something called malinchismo, which is when someone actively prefers something foreign for being foreign. I feel there's a lot of people here that are malinchista towards the US, though sometimes it's not bad, because what they might bring in (animated movies for example) has a better quality than what we currently have.

We have a lot of fast food joints but it's not like the American joints are the only ones that serve fast and kinda unhealthy food here.

Up north we also use a lot of English words, and middle/upper class young people are stereotyped as constantly trying to speak butchered English.

I don't mind "Americanization" though. Not only do we "Mexicanize" them too, but not everything that gets assimilated from them is bad, it's just that the good things are inventions and such, which people don't really consider as culture.

>>73695378
The dude had his nose broken and lost two teeth, on top of suffering a concussion. That overbooking is common in the industry does not justify such a response on the part of United.

>>73695513

Arien

If this actually happened it would be rather famous on the news

This ain't France

>>73695554
For the most part I don't mind light Americanisation but I would prefer for us to import culture from other cunts, I don't think of the US as a good role model

>>73695554
Have you noticed any change in attitudes toward American culture on account of Drumpf and all of the disrespectful things he's said about Mexico?

>>73695557
I don't know, niponsan. I see these type of photos all the time, but maybe it's only in Tokyo?
then you also have things like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NcIGBKXMOE

maybe you only think it's normal because degeneracy is part of the culture, like it is with black people here.
I will visit Japan someday to find out for sure.

>>73695616
We've always love hated you
It's been a while since the hate is more accentuated, but nothing you don't deserve or the rest of the world isn't giving you

>>73695631

American bases his image of Japan based on perverted hentai porn

You'll be disappointed at how normal and serious Japanese are. Well they're pretty weird in the Otaku meccas like Akiba

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>>73695233
Aaagg we know you're not a nip you're just one of Billions of weebs or a nigger with a proxy all those shit are fake,when you visit asia/japan you will know how they view you stupid Apes. They no gives a fuck but the western is obsessed with Japan and it is sad.

>>73695608
It could be worse, we could be getting examples from post-radicalization Middle East

But anyways I doubt we could ever get othercountry-ized, we have no other neighbors that are powerful enough to rub their influence on us. Whatever the US developed into wouldn't matter as long as it still became a superpower, we'd still assimilate whatever they did.

>>73695370
spoons and knives are not western exclusive

>>73695616
Pretty much this >>73695645, love you boo <3

We only really resent your president and his racist/xenophobic followers. There are some that are full-on anti-American, but those are a minority and usually aren't very well-recieved.

Mexico and America are like a couple that's always fighting. But they love each other... I think...

Kek fastfood isnt a important thing
Everything else is fatal

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>>73695719
:3

(๑ˊ͈ ॢꇴ ˋ͈)〜॰ॱ

>>73695788
Thank you but also how dare you remind me Hetalia has fucking Cuba and that micronation in Nevada but not Mexico

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>>73695233

>>73695233
>Everyone wears western clothing except either the poor or religious people
>English is assimilating in our language
>Western cinema and music
>English education

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>>73695667
>American bases his image of Japan based on perverted hentai porn

sure, hentai porn is part of it.
Is it true that it's normal for japanese men to read hentai in public like on the train?
also, tentacle porn just more degenerate than most things from any country.

all of this is part of your culture. How about this photo?

>>73695616
Some people were trying to boycott American products in favour of Mexican ones. I don't know what have they achieved, but I personally kept buying the same things I always buy.

I don't think that there is such a thing as 'Americanization'. What OP meant by this? Westernization of sorts I guess?
>>>73695554
>which is when someone actively prefers something foreign for being foreign.

We have the same thing. But we prefer something foreign not for the sake of it being foreign, but because all Russian products are SHIT. It's usually concerns music, movies, tv shows and to a lesser degree literate. It isn't a secret that Russian cinematography is a joke (not like Bollywood, but very close). Our music is a ripoff of American music, so it's obvious why folk go for an authentic product.

>>73695861
They're just celebrating virility. Lots of cultures have similar holidays dedicated to the phallus; we just see it as strange because of prudish Anglo Protestant influence.

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>>73695861

Fertility symbols are traditional folk culture in most of Asia. Pic related is Tibet

It's not degenerate. You and I have penises it's natural.

And no. Any normal person would be embarrassed to be seen with a hentai novel

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>>73695886
>Russian cinematography is a joke

WRONG! Also your literature is great. Everyone loves Tolstoy and Dostoevsky.

>>73695899
I understand that. My point is that one persons culture can be seen by another person as degeneracy. if you're a woman and you don't wear a burka, you can be seen as a degenerate.

>>73695911
also this... it shows that japanese people view cheating on your gf/bf husband/wife as normal and accepted.
https://www.japantoday.com/category/lifestyle/view/heres-what-japanese-men-and-women-think-about-cheating

>>73695861
>yfw this is the only thing that is sustaining the "60% of men that are not virgins" in Japan rate

>>73695936
>Tolstoy and Dostoevsky.

I meant modern literature. Also Tolstoy is boring af, Dostoevsky is outright depressing. Tarkovsky is overrated.
Fuck em all. I'm more of a beatnik literature guy.

>>73695959

Article Written by: Evie Lund

Probably some chink American propaganda

Cheating is as common here as anywhere. Of course it's looked down on. People divorce over this shit

>>73695963
Yes, it's unfortunate for them to be stuck on a small island. More Japanese people should emigrate to foreign countries like the chinese do, so they can find happiness.

>>73695979

Trying to read Anna Karenina and holy shit I don't think I can keep going. The only story I care about is Levine / Kitty. The part with Anna are ESPECIALLY awful.

>>73695992
>Probably some chink American propaganda

That may be true--I don't know. The video is more convincing, but they can also edit out many people with opposite views.

Anyways, good to know. Visit America sometimes. Japanese people seem to like San Francisco and New York.
I'll visit Japan. Maybe soon.

>>73695999
Except mainland Chinese ruins everything everywhere they go. If I can trust the Japanese to keep their manners while still abroad, I'm selling tickets for them to come over here

>>73696083
>Except mainland Chinese ruins everything everywhere they go
That's why when large groups of Chinese come to your country, you need to establish a Chinatown for them, so that they stick to themselves and not ruine the whole city.
Learn from California and New York.

>>73696124
They establish it themselves.
Having a chinese ghetto is not a good thing

>>73696165
>Having a chinese ghetto is not a good thing
it is when you can avoid it!
I avoid chinatowns like the plague. Best of all, if they have a big enough chinatown, they tend not to leave it.

>>73695233

Not americanized at all.
America in all aspects (language, culture, politics, economy) has nearly zero influence here.

>>73696165
It's also nice to have chinatowns where you can order food from 24/7, have it delivered, and feed your whole family for $10

>>73695886
>music, movies
If cinema for you starts and ends on a popcorn action movies and if you measure success of musicians in plays on radio stations and youtube views then you right. You just don't' know where to look.you right

>>73695936
>Russian cinematography
>posts tarkovsky
>Russian literature
>posts T&D
ooh that's cringe

>>73696255
>You just don't' know where to look

Honestly I don't want to and don't need to.

>>73696255
if you use the internet, you have been Americanized by American technology :)

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>>73696255
that's cringe

They usually just don't know any other Russian writers and filmmakers.

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>>73696255
>>Russian cinematography
>>posts tarkovsky
>>Russian literature
>>posts T&D
>ooh that's cringe

>>73696217
do many people not speak english there?
curious because I want to visit russia some day.

>>73696420
>do many people not speak english there?

95% do not speak a word of English. In Moscow and other cities this number is lower though, but still about 85-90%.

>>73695979
>Dostoevsky is outright depressing
so.. perfectly representative of modern russia?


As for France:

American influence is very implented, from fast food to tv series but it's way less than say, germany or the UK. Even then, i don't care. we still can influence american hipsters and elites too :^)

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>mfw some yuropeens are being influenced by obese midwesterners living in towns of 300 people that are still stuck in 1997

>>73695233
We used to be extreme americaboos after the war, then terrorism came and since the Vietnam war your image started fading. Nowadays aside from some old reactionary nobody likes you that much, and the Simpsons put the nail in the coffin of your image long before the internet. I guess politically speaking we often stay under your wings but that's normal, and for what concerns pop culture we're more shielded than others because we have our own music industry and we like pizza and kebab better than McDonald (wich right now is the only real fast good chain beside burger king, other companies are very wary of competing here even if that's going to change soon)

>>73695828
Is School Days the only anime you watch, Isac-senpai?

>>73696420
>do many people not speak english there?

There aren't much people here who has C1 or C2 level of proficiency. Usually people here has A1 or A2 in some exceptional cases. If you ask for directions they'd use gestures rather than English language.

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>>73696420

Next to zero.

>>73695233
>>Degenerate aspects of American culture doesn't reach here because of linguistic barrier :)
Really? I thought it's because your degeneracy market is already fully saturated.
No offence, I like Japan very much, but still.
>suicides
>weird porn
>domestic AI with anime girl avatars

I blame the perfidious dutch for this desu

>>73696503
>>73696756
>>73696635

fuuckk...

now i understand why russia is not a popular tourist destination. even the chinese will learn english for tourist money

>>73696883
Besides you are liable to receive shit quality of goods and services for western prices. This is true to some extent for all eastern tourist destinations including this one, but is even worse over there.

That being said, are American really convinced that having the whole world speak their language is an advantage?

>>73696950
have been to czech republic. very nice people-- most important thing. quality and service is expected. would go again.

also been to bucharest. taxi drivers come out of their cabs to try to rob me. everyone on the street tries to pick my pocket.
As long as russia is better than bucharest, I would be OK with going there.

>>73696756
What the fuck, Mexico that low? Is this just taking into account people who only know English?

>>73696965
of course, we can't be friends if we cant speak the same language.
We are force to learn spanish or another foreign language in school here also. It's not about language superiority.

>>73697076
I feel like I need to take advantage of it, but I'm too dumb to know how.

>>73696816
Nothing u mentioned was degenerate desu

Do you Japs really eat danish butter cookies?

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>>73697125
my grandma used to have them around all the time (she's from japan)

>>73697088
Having a common language is a good thing, but aren't you preoccupied that basically the whole world can know everything that happens in your cunt by reading your newspapers and social networks while the little you know about other countries only passes through foreign reporters and public announcements? Maybe it's just my autism.

>>73697109
it's not degenerate to you because it's your culture and it's normal to you.
just like you think there is degererate american culture.. such as what? legalize marijuanna? rap music? black culture?
yes, all can be considered degenerate, but none of that compares to japanese porn, eating live animals, etc., but that is just normal culture to you.

>>73697125
I cant think of a major country that doesnt.

>>73697186
>japanese porn, eating live animals, etc

I can't see how it's degenerate either.

>>73696883

There aren't many tourist-attracting places here in Russia, nobody is interested in travelling here. People don't study English because it's mostly useless in this country besides some narrowly-specialized areas like IT or international affairs. Russians don't travel to other countries, don't have relatives or friends abroad, don't consume western media and entertainments. Most of our country is still under an "iron curtain", just like the Soviet Union. In real life, for example, I have never seen or talked to a foreign person.

>even the chinese

Incorrect comparison. China and Chinese people are well-integrated in the world economy and culture, unlike Russians.

>>73697240
>I have never seen or talked to a foreign person.
>>I have never seen

Even in my 250.000 shithole we have African and Pakistan students. Where are you from?

>>73697186
It's not like you aren't world leaders in porn production. Also your concept of culture it's pretty closed, I'm sure they have other heritages in Japan besides mangas and fetishes.

>>73697159
that's a fair criticism, but that's how the world is. I mean do you expect all english speakers to learn italian, spanish, french, german, mandarin, etc.. in order to understand everyone else? You know that america is made of immigrants, and many speak a second language already--including myself. but of course there are ignorant americans who cant even speak english well when it's their first language and expect others to learn it as well. It's not everyone but that's just how ignorant people are everywhere.

>>73697280
>Where are you from?

From a large city with more than one million population.

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>>73696620
mostly yes

>>73697318
That's weird man. I often see these packs of Pakistanis, maybe because I live in the downtown, and the university isn't that far... Blacks also aren't uncommon sight here anymore.

>>73697240
>In real life, for example, I have never seen or talked to a foreign person.

Damn, that's kind of crazy to me, but maybe it's normal outside of cities anywhere.

>>nobody is interested in travelling here.
That's really not true. Everyone I know wants to visit Russia. Only problem is we would have difficult communicating and getting around, so everyone mostly goes to english speaking places.

>>73697419
>>73697240
>nobody is interested in travelling here
also, you're very far away from here!

>>73695992
>Evie Lund

Lund sounds German or Swedish, not Chinese

>>73697289
>It's not like you aren't world leaders in porn production
well, we were comparing degeneracy between US and Japan. My argument is not that there is no degeneracy here, but that Japan has their own degeneracy that I consider much more degenerate.

But in all fairness, I think both Japan and USA is nothing like what we see in media. Reality is boring, people go to work, they go home, they watch stupid shit on TV mostly.

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>>73697376
>That's weird man.

I guess my city is so shitty and miserable that not even Pakistani and Africans want to go here.

>>73696756

>you're in that 5%

Why did you learn English?

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>>73696965
>their language
>their

suck my dick Britain, we won

1812 never forget

>>73697159
>but aren't you preoccupied that basically the whole world can know everything that happens in your cunt by reading your newspapers and social networks while the little you know about other countries only passes through foreign reporters and public announcements? Maybe it's just my autism.

I'm less worried about that, and more worried about the fact that millions of English-speaking (fluent or near-fluent) people can come here and both compete for jobs and participate in our market.

In contrast, there are so many jobs in Italy that will probably never suffer competition from foreigners because comparatively few foreigners learn Italian. All of the jobs that require Italian language skill are "safe" for you.

Competition for employment in the USA is intense. It's only going to get worse when automation kills off lower class jobs, too. There is very little safety net except for old people, so the current generations getting fucked are millennials and generation X. I can't complain, though, because the USA designed the Bretton Woods system and it pushed for this globalist system. It's primarily harming the American lower class.

>>73697553

To read English and American literature in the original language.
I had to learn it exclusively by myself using textbooks and tutorials because even at school I was studying German instead of English.

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>>73696756
>south africa that low
>france that high
>japan that high

I'm calling bullshit on this data senpai

>>73697775

The key doesn't say "fluent," it just says they speak it at some level

>Australians in charge of reading data in their own language

>>73697638
>I'm less worried about that, and more worried about the fact that millions of English-speaking (fluent or near-fluent) people can come here and both compete for jobs and participate in our market.
If they learned english to do that, then they're welcomed. if you're a native english speakerand you cant compete with someone who has to learn the language to get the job, then you deserve to lose it. America should welcome that kind of talent. It's the ones that come here and don't learn the language and take jobs that are the problems and this is just as common.

>>73697811
>if you're a native english speakerand you cant compete with someone who has to learn the language to get the job, then you deserve to lose it.

What part of "this creates an intense pressure" do you not understand?

You're about as bad as this illiterate >>73697775

Brain drain is a real thing, no joke. If all the highly educated Italian people learn English and then leave Italy, Italy will be run by those who are leftover: dumb people who are corrupt, incompetent, and lazy. The employment competition pressure would be relatively low compared to a situation in which this wouldn't happen, where intelligent Italian doctors stay in Italy and increase competition.

Globalism and brain drain upends local meritocracies this way.

>America should welcome that kind of talent.

No, because speaking a language does not guarantee cultural compatibility. I speak Mandarin but you won't catch me alive singing the praises of chabuduo culture, the politburo system, kicking the can down the road to 'save face,' animal cruelty, and lots of other systemic problems that China as a society has. And you know what? That would make me an awful fit for China despite speaking their language.

Citizenship in the US is civic nationalism and a social contract with our government. It's not a damn language.

>>73697946
>If all the highly educated Italian people learn English and then leave Italy, Italy will be run by those who are leftover: dumb people who are corrupt, incompetent, and lazy.

This happened to Russia twice in the 20th century.

>>73697946
If Americans assimilated, we would be living in teepees on the plateaus instead melting cultures.

The jobs that America imports are mostly STEM jobs. People can't just come to compete for jobs just because they can speak English.
You're being fooled if you think anyone is stealing your jobs besides automation. STEM graduates are being picked up before they even look for work here. There is not enough talent and why we import it.
Apple, Google, MS, they hire everybody that comes out. Without the importing talent, our tech industry would probably be half the size, and for what? If you can't compete for the position with foreign borns, you dont deserve the job. As long as they get here legally is all I care about.

America is not a country of american born citizens as much as you wish it were.

>>73697775
>>73697803
then how the fuck is Finland that low then? everybody and I mean everybody speaks at least shit English to a level where we may as fucking well not have our own language anymore

>>73697946
>No, because speaking a language does not guarantee cultural compatibility.
What's this culture that you care so much for?
Black culture? Mexican food, Jewish Media? Churches?
Basketball, Baseball, Football?
Fast foods and Walmarts?

Are you afraid of mosques? I don't want them here either, but Mussies aren't from mexico, so they don't get here so easily.

>>73695233
I've seen rich ladies here do american yoga

>>73698709
>>India
>>do american yoga

mind blown.
I thought yoga was from india.

>>73697638
Trust me, you don't want our job market. Low class jobs are monopolized by immigrants because they accept unfair conditions, high class jobs are monopolized by old people because they heavily outnumber other age gaps and they refuse to retire or just fucking die. If you're under 35 here your best bet is to find some shitty dead end office job (more difficult every day due to the constant raises of retirement age) or emigrate somewhere where your degree actually matters

>>73698523
We've got more older people than our neighbors.

>>73698796
americans do only some surya namaskar postures and call it yoga

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>>73695886
Russian games are pretty good

>>73697240
>There aren't many tourist-attracting places here in Russia, nobody is interested in travelling here

>>73698285
Why dont more burgers study STEM?
I am an engineer myself, it is not impossible to do

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>Merica is being in charge of defense of Japan

>>73695454
in america people would rape her and claim that she asked for it. expecially nigger/sandnigger

how do I get a cute Japanese gf

>>73695233
Look at my flag, and my country is the most overweight in the region. We're just brimming with freedumbs.

... so, once again. Ho did this thread came from "americanisation" to discussing how russia is bad?

>>73699000
Well, people are encouraged to study the things they enjoy doing here, so that part is cultural, and also unfortunately our public school system is really bad at teaching STEM. It's only if you get to university level or private education that the education is really good.
More are starting to study in STEM though because now they that is where the jobs are, so they don't have much choice.
Also, most of tech industry is pretty new, a lot of startups, and the industry grew very big and very fast, so it was difficult to keep the field saturated no matter what.

As an American I absolutely hate this globalization with turning everyone into an American. Can't have our own culture now, once everyone is an "American" nobody is.

>>73699227
>Also, most of tech industry is pretty new, a lot of startups, and the industry grew very big and very fast, so it was difficult to keep the field saturated no matter what.
That's good temporarily but that leads me to believe it will pop down the road like the .com bubble.

>>73699000
I went to art school but then learned programing on my own and became a technical director for 3d animation. :) People are forced into learning STEM now if they want a good job. Luckily, it gets easier as the tech field develops and companies require more specialization. No need to have a Computer Science degree and know everything about computers anymore like before just to get a job.

>>73695847
>you even fuck your cousins like us

>>73699264
the startups do have a high failure rate, but i don't think the tech industry as a whole is something that can fail. it's become ubiquitous. Tech is in every sector now, medical, military, industrial, entertainment, etc. it's basically the foundation of the future.

>>73695233
>french breakfast
>french words in every simple dialogue
>western clothing for almost all the categories of people, exception for some old generations and salafists
>western food replacing the traditional food in restaurants
>some french culture doctrines becoming popular among the teens (the locks of love in the bridges)

I have grown tired of this , at least we should import some good parts like music and literature and philosophy instead of this

>>73699361
Thing is here it's mostly a meme, over there 80% of marriages are that way.

>>73699246
I complete agree with you and am an asian american.
Cultural differences are like spices. When you travel around the world, you want to see different cultures. Now you travel everywhere, and it's all the same shit.

>>73699408
Blame it on women. They drive cultural change and are the source of progressive liberation.

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>>73699516
Exactly wherever you go now you see the same architecture and buildings being built, the same clothes, the same brands of products.

They said the future of humanity and globalization would mark a great new beginning and expansion into space, but all I see is the death of what made it worth anything to begin with. Everyone's turning into a bland featureless blob without any semblance of tastes, language, or culture.

Everything is this artificial corporate crap. And we didn't even get any space colonization out of it.

>>73695979
Oh please, you Ruski's love being depressed, its the only thing you're good at!

>>73699673
>Everyone's turning into a bland featureless blob without any semblance of tastes, language, or culture.
I see this also. And unfortunately I think this will go on for the foreseeable future, until some point when society no longer resembles anything currently and remembers nothing of different cultures, and with technology people begin introducing uniqueness back on a global scale. At that point people would be able to genetically engineer themselves to appear any race, have any color skin, eye, hair they want, and it would be more of a fashion statement. But if we get to that point, I would be in the distant future long past our lifetimes.

>>73699673
>And we didn't even get any space colonization out of it.
This is why I'm investing my money in Elon. At least he has a vision. I'll be buying his electric cars in hopes that he can realize some of his dreams.

>>73699895
Sounds more like a dystopia. Still what were seeing now with this globalization is actually very similar to the old colonialism it replaced. Back than they tried to do this whole multicultural thing too. The natives never bought it, were always resentful and rebelled.

Now they just tried to do the opposite and bring those people back to west instead with incentivisations. Won't work though I don't think the native populations of the west now will be the ones feeling resentful and want to have their countries back.

>>73695233
Already too much.
Everybody is affraid about how islamisation of France might destroy France souls, but France souls was on life support for the last 30 years, barely surviving with government funds.
France doesn't exist, it's a meme. And in the last ten years, we also surrendered our international policy to glorious american cock.

We're just american in disguise, eating baguette/cheese, not even drinking wine anymore.

>>73695233
Can we get any more Americanized?

>>73700079
>>73699988
>>73699895
You are the bland featureless blob without any semblance of tastes, language, or culture that is infecting the rest of the world with your blandness. End it.

>>73695233
>Degenerate aspects of American culture doesn't reach here because of linguistic barrier :)

=] sure

>>73700079
>Sounds more like a dystopia.
It might be, or it might be like a word from startrek.
I guess it might all depend on whether corrupt people will lead the future.

people of every generation in the past have felt resentment over something. any future resentment will be a continuation of social evolution.

>>73700268
Were just the central hub for it. You euro's leaders are all globalist multikulti fetishists willingly not only letting this happen but actively facilitating it.

>>73700268
don't worry. Ishalluh, you'll be saved from our degeneracy by the prophet Mohammad sooner or later whether you like it or not.

>>73698285
This is total bullshit.
The tech companies keep pushing the STEM shortage meme because they want to drive wages down and make it employer's market. Did you forget when they all got caught colluding to drive down wages?
There's loads of people getting into tech and programming, but companies and hiring managers keep whining because they want the 1% of talent but aren't willing to pay for it or train people.
>Apple, Google, MS, they hire everybody that comes out
Lol no.
>America is not a country of american born citizens as much as you wish it were.
Yes it is.

>>73696083
>>73696165
>hurdur chinese immigrants are the worst

Have you met a muslim?

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>>73695233
Teens here are highly influenced by the American culture. For example most of them would prefer to eat a hamburger rather than a kebab.
>tfw Americans are going to win a cultural victory

>>73700367
>The tech companies keep pushing the STEM shortage meme because they want to drive wages down and make it employer's market. Did you forget when they all got caught colluding to drive down wages?

>>73700367
>>Apple, Google, MS, they hire everybody that comes out
>Lol no.

STEM shortage meme? Do you know any STEM graduates looking for work? I don't. I know people who graduate after two years of learning bullshit scripting language and gets hired immediately at apple. 70K starting.
Apple, Google, MS, etc, hire EVERYBODY because they can afford, and because they dont want the talent to go to their competition.

>>73700367
>There's loads of people getting into tech and programming, but companies and hiring managers keep whining because they want the 1% of talent but aren't willing to pay for it or train people.
Training people is the meme. there is no training in tech. you are expected to know what to do when you get in.
>>73700367
>>America is not a country of american born citizens as much as you wish it were.
>Yes it is.
When America Imported Africans to work the cotton fields, they built America. When the Chinese came over to build the interstate rail system, they built America. When the Italians came over and opened their pizzarias, they built America.
Culturally, America doesnt exist. It's black music, mexican food, jewish media, roman churches. America is a melting pot. You get out of your small town and go around to where the people are and it will open your eyes.

>>73695233
in the Netherlands we are all taught british english in school but watch how many dutch posters you see using american english. English words keep creeping into our language too, fuck might as well be a dutch swear word at this point.

>>73700500
>example most of them would prefer to eat a hamburger rather than a kebab.
but your hamburger is basically a kebab sandwich.
a mcTurco. that doens't count.
been to turkey, until you eat pork, you can't be very americanized.

>>73700670
>Do you know any STEM graduates looking for work?
Yes.
>Apple, Google, MS, etc, hire EVERYBODY
They obviously don't given the number of people who talk about getting rejected. Google's policy is literally better to reject a good applicant than accept a bad one.
>Training people is the meme. there is no training in tech. you are expected to know what to do when you get in.
Yeah that's what I said, who do you think is deciding that?
I have no sympathy for some dipshit hiring manager who wants to find applicant who aces whiteboard problems, is familiar with their domain specific tech, and is willing work for mediocre salary. Instead they just cry for more people and pajeets from tata.
>When America Imported Africans to work the cotton fields, they built America. When the Chinese came over to build the interstate rail system, they built America. When the Italians came over and opened their pizzarias, they built America.
And the English never did anything? Also why are you including blacks are though they're not American born citizens? They're not immigrants they've been here since basically day 1.
The situation is completely different given the expansion of welfare state in 20th century.
>Culturally, America doesnt exist
Deluded.
> America is a melting pot.
It's actually not, outside of superficial aspects like food and some music Americans stick to their own groups.
Do you realize how segregated cities are?
The south american countries were real melting pots.

>Do you know any STEM graduates looking for work?
>Yes.
That's unfortunate because have they checked craigslist? There are literally dozens or even hundreds of tech job postings every single day in every city. I've never had a problem finding or getting work and neither any of people in tech that I know. STEM work shortage isn't even a meme. I'm in Kansas right now, and the big tech companies even come here to recruit anyone willing to move.

>And the English never did anything? Also why are you including blacks are though they're not American born citizens? They're not immigrants they've been here since basically day 1

Sure, the English also but are you telling me the English made America? Blacks were imported to work. the ones who actually built America were brought over on ships to did hard labor, not the lazy shits here today.

>>73701215
>Do you realize how segregated cities are?
i've lived from california, to texas, to new york, to kansas. I know how segregated the communities are but the people come together to work, and that's what builds america.

>lots of words derivated from english
>99% of movies in theaters is almost from America, only a few ones are brazilian, a few others from japan (dragon ball and sheeeit)
>technology
>research
>work (happy hour, insight and shitty business words)

desu brazil is pretty bad, thats why lots of people wants to get out.

>>73701215
>>Culturally, America doesnt exist
>Deluded.
what is culture? belief, art, morals, law, custom
These are no longer unique to america.

sports is all america has left that's unique and non degenerate.
art (music, television) is african american, and jewish propoganda.
Is that our great american culture now that you're worried about getting displaced?

>>73701762
The English did a great job of killing off the Natives! WooYa

>>73701762
>are you telling me the English made America?
They literally did.
>Blacks were imported to work. the ones who actually built America were brought over on ships to did hard labor
America bred slaves more than other places, by 1850 most slaves were multiple generations removed from Africa.
>I know how segregated the communities are but the people come together to work, and that's what builds america.
What built America in the past was exploitation of groups by capitalists, why would now be any different?
Research shows diversity has a negative impact on society but cheap labor is cheap labor.
>he big tech companies even come here to recruit anyone willing to move.
What percentage are hired? It's cheap to send out recruiters or spam people on linkedin but actually hiring them is different matter. Looking at some numbers for google they were hiring 1 person for every 428 applications.
>but the people come together to work
Where? Tech is mainly white, asian, and indian men. Construction in many places has almost completely been taken over by less than legal latinos.
>>73702260
>These are no longer unique to america.
1st and 2nd amendment are fairly unique.

>>73702813
>>are you telling me the English made America?
>They literally did.
got news for you, you're not english. you just made my point.
>>73702813
>Looking at some numbers for google they were hiring 1 person for every 428 applications.
That's because they get applications from everyone, including people who already have jobs in tech but simply want to work for google.
Again, you can look for these meaningless statistics or simply look at the job boards to see what jobs are available. Many of those job positions have been open for months because there arent enough qualified people.

>1st and 2nd amendment are fairly unique.
1st amendment is not unique
2nd amendment I agree is more unique.
>>73702813
>but the people come together to work
>Where?

In the same city. in the same building. In the same schools. In the same trains. In the same buses. people come together to keep the system running. just because different races will specialize in different areas, doesn't mean they aren't working together.

>>73702813
>Research shows diversity has a negative impact on society but cheap labor is cheap labor.
America was built on cheap foreign labor. Americans have reaped that rewards from it. Now you believe that Americans should take credit for that labor too?

>>73702813
>America bred slaves more than other places, by 1850 most slaves were multiple generations removed from Africa.

and for most of that time when they were doing all of the hard labor, blacks weren't even considered humans, not to mention american.
but now, lets conveniently consider them americans, so that we can say americans built america...

>>73703685
>got news for you, you're not english. you just made my point.
In making America they became Americans...
I think it's indisputable that America owes its existence more to the English Americans than the Italian's and their pizzerias.
>1st amendment is not unique
Which places have similar? Europe is notably more restrictive of speech. Japan maybe?
>>73703685
> just because different races will specialize in different areas, doesn't mean they aren't working together.
Were southerners working together with the slaves? A black man driving your bus is the best the melting pot has to offer? High diversity reduces civic participation, community trust, etc.
>>73704514
>Now you believe that Americans should take credit for that labor too?
What?

Why are you so driven to accept all comers and allow them to inflate labor market and drive down wages?

>>73705377
>In making America they became Americans...
using the same argument, anyone who works in america now should be considered an american because they're helping american industry.

>>1st amendment is not unique
>Which places have similar
Seriously, outside of NK and dictatorships like Turkey, pretty much every country has a similiar level of free speech. Mexico? Even China, but you might not believe that considering what we hear here. Freedom of the press and free speech here is just a facad of what we think it is. We already know that the media here is controlled and corrupt, so there is no real press anymore. Even the new media censors and deletes everything. Our freedom of speech is pretty much useless like it is everywhere else.

>A black man driving your bus is the best the melting pot has to offer? High diversity reduces civic participation, community trust, etc.
If you havent noticed, all the races are fucking eachother in the cities too. how much more do you think they can mash?


>>73705377
>Why are you so driven to accept all comers and allow them to inflate labor market and drive down wages?
but I'm not. I simply don't believe that's the truth of what's happening. Like I said before, where would our tech industry be if we lost a quarter of the people or more? Is that going to make america richer, better? Reality is pointing to automation taking peoples jobs. you just have look around to see. Shops are using kiosks to replace cashiers, companies use robots to stack warehouses, trucks are beginning to drive themselves to deliver packages. those are the jobs that are disappearing.

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>>73695233
>>Fast food is very common
>>Degenerate aspects of American culture doesn't reach here

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>>73695233
>How Americanized in your cunt?
Way too much, mostly linguistically. In many fields they simply adopt english nomenclature rather than invent new Swedish ones. In education this is tragically clear.

You people are degenerate robots. The world never should have contacted your people.

>>73695233
>>People look up to America for many things but also look down in them for many things. (Like recent overbooking incident)


I've seriously lost respect for you all over this. The hypocrisy of calling it discrimination(which is was not whatsoever) when you guys have LEGAL discrimination and completely shut out foreigners and despise other Asians. Everything they did was legal, but it was down to the management who should be blamed, not a whole fucking country you retarded shitheads. You even completely ignore the fact that the passengers were disgusted and telling them to stop and the entire US was enraged and called for a fucking boycott.

Fuck y'all.

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>>73695233
quite, young white males used to run around like literal ghetto niggers

>>73700500
>most of them would prefer to eat a hamburger rather than a kebab
Two words: Toyota Hilux
https://youtu.be/1XiviwQhIe0

>>73707850
That was only released in the Philippines dumbass.

>>73695233
Not as americanized as Japan, of course.
We have popular worldwide fastfood chains here, some people enjoying american media (music, cinema, TV, books) but it's a niche. Population is quite poor in terms of English, where young people can communicate not very fluently the older ones mainly absolutely ignorant in it.
Majority of population also hates USA due to their politics.

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>>73708711
>Population is quite poor in terms of English, young people can communicate not very fluently the older ones mainly absolutely ignorant in it.
>population also hates USA due to their politics.
Russia's fucking based

>>73708968
>sweden wants to play the meme game

wew you've been on a tear lately with the butthurt

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>>73695233
It's not. US pop culture has not been a thing here for like 15 years now, people just don't like them for all the wars and killings they do not to mention the things they did in Latin America. People look down on anything related to the united states and everyone thinks it's a crazy country with school shootings and bombs and racism.

I mean there's mcdonalds(that only young people eat until they realize it's bad and move on), coke, movies and some videogames or something but I don't know if i'd call that americanized.

why are swedes so rude towards americans

>>73709671
Swedes have to use words like nigger in every sentence when they post outside their general, lest the thread derail.

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>>73709671
Swedes completely adore americans. It sickens me

>>73709671
Literally one dude. Like I said, he's been on a tear lately. Just ignore.

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>>73710174
You said that and it made no sense. I've just been posting pictures of food for no more than 2 hours. What's the big deal?

>>73696950
I'm in Prague right now and you are wrong m8. Even the worst tourist trap places are significantly cheaper than a regular Swedish restaurant. Only thing expensive I've seen yet is those "hold in the wall" chink shops.

Go like 500 meters from the old town and i get a full dinner with beer to drink for the prize of a fucking burger menu back home

>>73695370
this made me laugh, thanks

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>>73695557
lol I don't even ... Why do you think we have chinese girls showing their underware all the time?

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It is not, you wont't see anything related to America when you step outside

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>>73716112
>he probably believes this