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>>73605538
Marxian niggers BTFO. God job on destroying the leftists Winland.

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>>73605538
126,875 sent to hell to rot with that fat kike marx.

>>73605538
Cucked

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>>73605538
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

B-but we still won.....
delet this

No mercy for Russians!

>>73605538
if finland was annexed it'd be a post-commie third world shithole by now.

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>>73605538
>f-fucking capitalist reactionaries

>>73605567
>stalin
>leftist

>>73605683
Won my shit :D You call that a victory?

reminder that the soviets still won

>>73605567
Thanks to your hero Larry Thorne also.

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>>73605753
Yes. He was a leftist opposed to capitalism.

>>73605757
>Russians took so little land with so many lives lost
>literally a Pyrrhic victory
Did USSR think this land was really worth it?

>>73605683
>failed to annex finland

kek

>>73605826
soviets beat the nazis and took finnish land, finns gained nothing, the finns lost regardless of the meme bodycount

>>73605826
They call everything a victory. But sure was not worth it :D

>>73605567
>killed 700 commies

one of the greatest soldiers in history

>>73605873
then got half his face blown off and had to live the rest of his life as a disfigured monster that fought for the nazis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXZCtuyGP04
thread theme

>>73605841
Finns didn't gain or lose anything, imo

But Soviets took so little land with such a huge waste of resources

>>73605912
and yet they won the war and became a global superpower

soviets objectively won, it doesn't matter how you feel

>>73605887
He lived a long happy life afterwards with no regrets knowing he defended his country against the biggest cancerous and destructive ideology throughout history.

>>73605887
Nobody remembers him as a monster, just the greatest sniper of all times. And he fought for Finland, not for nazis.

>>73605912
>Finns didn't lose anything
what
they lost territories (Karelia was quite rich back then), had to pay reparations for many years, and lots a lot of people.
Wtf are you talking about

>>73605934
>And he fought for Finland, not for nazis.

which de facto was fighting for the nazis

and torni even literally joined the SS

>>73605959
I don't blame him after Russian attack.

>>73605959
>which de facto was fighting for the nazis

Häyhä did not serve during the Continuation War (Operation Barbarossa), so he did not fight alongside Germans

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>>73605972
if you can't blame someone for joining the SS you deserve to die just like they did

>>73605953
Yes well I'm sure Karelia was "worth" it especially now

>>73605991
Or maybe it is you who should die as our enemy.
https://youtu.be/Y5fbmEy1GL4

>>73605959
Hey retarded heftylolian. How do you feel that your ideology mass murdered more than the Nazis ever could?

>>73606049
that's because the nazis were weak and weren't given the time to kill the majority of undesirables in europe you fucking spastic

nazi germany existed for TWELVE YEARS

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>>73606080
Your ideology actually killed more leftishits than the Nazis ever could. Stalin killed a shitload of fellow leftists.
Yes Nazi Germany existed for twelve years, and it a much better living standard than at any time during the Soviet Union.

>>73606112
>and it a much better living standard than at any time during the Soviet Union.

for who?

>>73606112
had*

>>73605991
>if you can't blame someone for joining the SS you deserve to die just like they did
Being an armchair general for WW2 in 2017 sure must be fun.

The Nazis/SS was a means to fuck the Soviets for trying to rape Funland.

>>73606119
For the vast majority of German citizens? Jews were less than 1% of the population of Germany at the time Hitler took power.

>>73606130
>The Nazis/SS was a means to fuck the Soviets for trying to rape Funland.

the SS was founded 20 years before the winter war you fucking retard

>>73606146
you mean for the people they saw as desirable?

that is to say, everyone who wasn't jewish polish slavic gay non-white remotely leftist jehovahs witnesses and other christian sects gypsies anyone with any kind of disability or anyone who dissented in any way

what a wonderful place to live, thank you white western suburban teenager

>>73606189
That's why I said vast majority you fucking idiot. I acknowledge jews got fucked over.
Contrast this with the soviet union, all the citizens had low living standards except the Nomenklatura who lived luxrious lives and enjoyed goods unimaginable to the rest of the populace. I'd rather live in Nazi Germany than the mordor shithole that was the USSR.

>>73606230
nazi germany had a better standard of living but it was still a war torn, worn down shithole

>I'd rather live in Nazi Germany than the mordor shithole that was the USSR.

they'd probably have found a reason to kill your dumb wehraboo ass too lmao

>>73605806
Lauri Törni really hated commies and rightfully so. FFS the man fought the Soviets in the Finnish army, the glorious Waffen SS, the US army in Vietnam......Easily the top 5 soldiers in history

>>73606313
yeah and then some commie farmers with rakes fucking killed his ass

great soldier

>>73606261
>nazi germany had a better standard of living standard but it was still a war torn worn down shithole

I'm comparing fascism to comminism. Even Francoist Spain was a much better place to live in than the Soviet Union. Ficks sake, even Nazi Germany had more freedom. Hitler loosened gin laws greatly for the vast majority of the populace, the USSR implemented extremely restrictive gun laws except for the party elites and trusted people.

>they'd kill my ass
I'm not a kike, shitskin, gyp or disabled so I doubt it. Keep projecting. The Nazis didn't genocide the frogs.

>>73606335
gun*

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>>73606189
>thank you white western suburban teenager

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Who's this mr.lefty yankee who's here?

Let's just clear few things for him shall we?

First of all, yes we didn't win and even expecting a win at our odds is pure madness, winter war's mere objective was to hold out long enough for foreign aid to arrive, which absolutely failed. Also given the written molotov-ribbentrop pact you can pretty safely say soviet's failed at their objectives at 2 times.

Secondly, fuck no we weren't nazis. IF anything we saw at is the necessary evil to take lost land back, ffs 1/4th of our population lost homes in winter war. We retained democratic government, only allowed the ss to recruit from here as they demanded it as a "pawn", never advanced beyond our old borders and never partaked in the siege of leningrad for example.

Now sliver back to your hole you massive mong.

>>73605858
pretty worthy to me

>>73606335
>Ficks sake, even Nazi Germany had more freedom.

if it's freedom for certain people only it's not freedom you fucking idiot lol

why are there so many underaged wehraboos on this website

>>73606326
You sound like an asshole. I dare you to find his equal.

>>73606326
You can't do much in a helicopter if someone shoots it down.

>>73606363
>Secondly, fuck no we weren't nazis.

ah ok

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation_War

>>73606375
I'm looking at whole you fucking tard. The vast majority of the populace, not exceptions. I said this multiple times. Go back to leftypol you illiterate cunt.

>>73606376
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesty_Puller

how about someone better

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>>73606326
You are truly upset that Finland fought against the Marxian, kicked your shit in, menace and stopped their country from getting annexed. Go blow a load over the comminist manifesto.

>>73606364
You are Russian, you have no clear thinking.

>>73606401
right you're saying it again

>the people they didn't execute had more freedoms! nazi germany was actually free

ah you've changed my mind, actually the nazis were the good guys and the liberal media lied to me. at least i see

>>73606486
I said vast majority in my first post you illiterate marxist retard.

>>73606396
Yes i very extensively how we weren't national socialists and yet you fail to comprehend.

But for the sake of the argument let's go through this once more. Now with the sources you provided shall we?

>During the Continuation War (1941–1944) Finland was co-belligerent with Nazi Germany against the Soviet Union, and dependent on food, fuel and armament shipments from Germany. In spite of this, Finland retained an independent democratic government. Moreover, during the war, Finland kept its army outside the German command structure despite numerous attempts by the Germans to tie them more tightly together.

>Finnish Jews were not persecuted, and even among extremists of the Finnish Right they were highly tolerated, as many leaders of the movement came from the clergy. Of approximately 500 Jewish refugees, eight were handed over to the Germans, a fact for which Finnish prime minister Paavo Lipponen issued an official apology in 2000. The field synagogue operated by the Finnish army was probably a unique phenomenon in the Eastern Front of the war.[21] Finnish Jews fought alongside other Finns for their country's freedom.[22]

>Finland was never a member of the Axis powers as it never signed the Tripartite Pact, but was aided against the military assault by the Soviet Union by Germany, from the beginning of Operation Barbarossa 1941 to the separate peace with the Soviet Union in 1944. Finland was led by its elected president and parliament during the whole 1939–1945 period. As a result, some political scientists name it as one of the few instances where a democratic country was engaged in a war against one or more other democratic countries, namely the democracies in the Allied force.

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>>73605785
Why are you spamming this unrelated shit in this thread?

>>73606152
>the SS was founded 20 years before the winter war you fucking retard

You may be fucking retarded. I hope you're a wetback or child of wetbacks.

Did you just read that one sentence and ignore the whole post? Are you so stupid that I have to point out that the SS comment was in regards to Torni joining the SS as was mentioned in previous statements?

>>73606515
>he knowingly joined a group of card carrying genocidal psychopaths because some people were fighting to stop them and attacked his country

AH ok again the nazis were the good guys

>>73606541
No, and neither were the communists. America always hated communism more than fascists.

>>73606335

>Fick

Du kannst mir nichts vormachen, Hans.

>>73606152
He joined it after the finnish "pawn battallion" was founded in 1940 and after short service returned to continuation war.

You really are some buttblasted communist lover aren't you?

>>73606565
that's kind of a problem when all of the most successful nations on earth with the highest standards of living learn more left than they do right

really making me think

>>73606326
>rakes destroy helicopters
Really raped my berries.

>>73606586
Literally every developed country is capitalist. All western European countries are capitalists with a welfare state.

>>73606592
right? isn't it funny how some commie farmers with rakes beat a global superpower in a war

>>73606606
sure, and they're further from fascism than they are from communism

the fact that socialist parties actually have some ground to stand on but fascist parties are practically nonexistent in these countries should tell you something

>>73606586
>Hurr durr welfare socialism is textbook socialism, it must be the way to global revolution. durr.

If you wan't actual socialism go to south america.

>>73606633
We did active eugenics till 80s.

Really activates the good old think machine doesn't it.

>>73606633
I don't care. I'm not a fascist, I'm actually quite libertarian. I'm just saying that fascism had a much better living standard than communism. Does this upset you?

>>73606363
Lmao we all know you would have annexed Karelia and Genocided Russians

>>73606663
>I'm just saying that fascism had a much better living standard than communism.

until the fascist states showed that they were inferior and were wiped off the face of the earth while the communists went to space

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>>73606664
Of course we would've, the whole area was habitated by karelians. Doubt we would've genocided anyone.

>>73606449
>says the guy who call territory loss a victory

>>73606664
Who wouldn't.

>>73605538
Absolutely /E M B A R R A S S I N G/

>>73606684
Yes, history is written by the victors. This doesn't contradict anything I said. Nazi Germany, Francoist Spain, and Salazar's Portugal all had far significantly superior living standards to communist regimes. This is a fact.

>>73606727
>This is a fact.

is it? source

>>73606759
Nazi Germany citizens were richer, had less unemployment, were more educated, had better healthcare and lived longer than Soviet citizens.

>>73606799
i didn't ask you to repeat yourself, i asked for a source showing that the standard of living was better

if you were working class, russia was arguably better. if you lived in nazi germany you'd likely have lived and died working in a war factory

>>73606823
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Nazism_and_Stalinism

>>73606823
And that's factually wrong. Working-class was worse in the USSR. The USSR only had a better living standard if you were a minority such as Jewish or Gypsy.


https://www.quora.com/Was-it-better-for-an-ordinary-middle-class-citizen-to-live-in-Stalins-communist-USSR-or-to-live-in-Hitlers-Nazi-Germany

>>73606922
so your source is some opinion piece written by literally whos where the best written response disagrees with you

VERY convinced now

>>73606940
Go on Reddit and ask the "historians" you'd see the same responses. Better yet, go research it yourself.

>>73605840
Nobody wanted to annex Finland

>>73606958
Hitler was quite Keynesian in his eocnomic policies and redistributed the wealth really evenly. And confirmed for not reading.


>In Hitler's Nazi Germany, that's pretty clear, unless you were Jewish, in which case the USSR was better. It depends a bit what you mean by 'middle-class' though: the USSR was the Dictatorship of the proletariat, i.e. the working-class, so it wasn't good being anything other than working-class.

>Another way of looking at it was that standards of living were much higher in Nazi Germany so, if by middle-class you mean the ordinary person in the street, then that person would have been living much better in Nazi Germany.

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>>73606823
>>73606940
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>>73606541
>AH ok again the nazis were the good guys
>t.guy who never suffered.

He chose the best option to fight against the flaming assholes that previously unprovoked invaded his country.

>>73606610
>how some commie farmers with rakes beat a global superpower in a war

The people who defeated America in that war were Americans. The Anti-War movement did it, we ate shit far harder in WW2 and still won. I mean for fucksake, we tried to be the good guys and didn't level Hanoi from the air like we usually would have.

>>73605538
Thank you based finns. There are now approx. 1 million less subhumans on this earth thanks to you.

>>73606691
It's funny how russians want more and more land yet they can't manage well enough the piece they already have. It's as if "if we are not doing well, nobody should be doing well. That's why we must also your land and turn it into a shithole."

>>73607889
"Russia is where I am at" is a subhuman r*ssian saying for a reason, mate.

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>>73607743
>making all these excuses for losing to a bunch of commie rice farmers

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Stalin learned and became the greatest man to that soviet union had.

>>73607889
fuck off
More land-less taxation

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>>73606661
Why do you all look like mongs then?

>>73606541
>the nazis were the good guys
Well yeah, to us they were

>>73605826
not really, but commies are fucking dumb and they dont care about human lives

>>73605538
Looking at this it is no wonder the Nazis thought the Soviets would be easy

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>>73607932
>being a fucking idiot on purpose for the sake of shitposting

Aren't you a bit old for that?

>>73610728
We value inner beauty more.

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>>73610728
Eugenics can destroy the aggressive male population which defends itself, look at Sweden.

And now they're a country full of sissy crossdressers.

Really makes you think.

>>73611010
they're both

>>73610894
>>73610933
Huh. So it worked?

Also what were the conditions of the eugenics?

>>73611010
That's just /mammi/

>>73611034
It doesn't work organically, famines and wars are eugenic enough.

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A Fennoswede saved Finland.

>>73611010
finland has a lot of cute traps, but those cute traps could fuck you up pretty hard in a war

>>73611149
Pretty sure it was the men actually fighting on the front and not one man old man

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>>73605617
>hating on Marx
I can understand hating Stalin, but holy shit you classcuck...

>>73605538
What the fuck is wrong with slavs?

At least we get respect for this, being the ultimate commie purgers. We also put all communists on concentration camps once and killed them

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>>73611305
Your ideology is a constant failure that ends in collapse or the countries going back to capitalism like China and Vietnam then becoming much better off in the process.

>>73605644
>polish
He was a Tartar. If Tartars are considered based Poles now all I have to say is: fuck them

>>73611305
Aww that's really sweet.

>>73611451
Oh. And in a world free of conflict where nation supported eachother rather than waged proxy and economic war in the hope of bankrupting a new form of society that would lead to a reshuffle of power?

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I hate the modern times, I wish I was shooting russians in a frozen forest

>>73606963
another delusional russian tries to bend the truth

>>73611488
howling

>>73611485
Communism collapses on itself. We ended the embargo with China when Mao was still alive. The Chinese economy and living standards didn't improve until Deng Xiaoping transitioned the economy to a capitalist one.

>>73605538
a good bit of those were ukrainians in summer attire sent straight into macinegun fire. the whole thing was probably another one of stalins purges.

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I'm sure Gommunism can succeed, if it isn't led by jews. Right, lads?

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>>73611738
Can't go wrong with millions of dead, right?

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>>73611831
But we weren't on the losing side Faggot-chan =3

>>73611870
Well you did lose. Just not as hard as most people were expecting.

Don't worry, I'm sure you'll get them the next time.

>>73611895
Keeping our independence was our goal. We did lose some land but at least we weren't annexed by the slavniggers.

WHEN WILL WE STOP OUR MENTAL MASTURBATION OVER TWO WARS WE LOST??? :DDDDDDDD LOL HÄYHÄ TÖRNI MÄMMI-MANNERHEIM TALI-IHANTALA FENLAN STRONK

>>73605538
>scandis will read it as "DYUST"

>>73612005
t: Cai-Göran

>>73612005
LAAAAAAAAAKKKUPIIIIIIIIIIIIIPPPPPUUUUUU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5fQZhv0poU

>>73612030
GO JERK OFF TO SOME WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE ABOUT RAATE-ROAD YOU FUCKING FAGGOT :DDDDDDDDD

>>73612005
SE DET ARMA FOLK SOM BLÖTT

PÅ NARVAS HED PÅ POLENS LAND PÅ LEPIZIGS SLÄTTER LUTZENS KULLAR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU_vt57u_5I

>>73612063
Why don't you get back to your work at your sipsi factory hurri =3

>>73606963

Annexing Finland became Stalins plan when the war started after Finland did not give/trade any of it's landscape

>>73612136
"LOL U R HURRI" FUCKING GAYBALL IM NOT SWEDISH :DDDD ASSHURT FAGGOT GO DIE IN A FIRE

>>73606691

Taking over Finland was Stalins goal, he failed

>>73612174
No he was just defending Russia after you shelled them :DDD

>>73612164
Mitäs mitäs, alatko olemaan ärsyyntynyt ystäväiseni=3

>>73612221

:DDDDDDD

>>73612164
juuh viinaa vaan

>>73612164
Holy kek

>>73612243
SUN PASSIIVIS AGGRESSIIVINEN HYMIÖ PASKA EI PETKUTA KETÄÄN. JA EI, EN OLE VIHAINEN, TOIVON VAIN KIVULIASTA JA ENNENAIKAISTA LOPPUA SINULLE TULIPALOSSA VITUN IHRAKASA

>>73612221
>>73612221
true.

Don't attack us, don't lose clay.

it's very simple

Finnish "mastermind" thought it would be great to bomb Mainila

>>73612221
>>73612294
Do you fucking want to be bombed too

>>73612292
Älä huuda jooko =3
Ollaan kaikki kavereita=)

>>73612316
I'd hold off on that, we'd totally annex you without a second thought.

>>73612340
SULLA LÄSKILLÄ EI OO MUITA KAVEREITA KU MUTSIS JA SEKI VIHAA SUA SALAA.

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>>73605538
J U S T

>>73612353
With your "army" of 50k?

>>73612294

Nowadays you history books admit
Soviets shot the Mainila shots?

>>73612353

Power fantasies

Swedish army nowadays probably worse than Finnish


Not that I want war with Sweden :)

>>73612403
Theres nothing wrong with finnish army.

>>73612374
We only needed about 15,000 to trash most of europe though

>>73612403
If annexation is on the table, whoever loses, we both win

>>73611831
Ah yes, the standard Russian proxy response.

>>73612375
Who else? Why would we, soviet people, shoot our village?

haha

finns are funny indeed

>>73612425

Not saying that (I used wrong word)

But Swedish army has gotten weaker in the last 10 years

>>73612427
Here's your (you)

>>73611831
He was your leader not ours.

>>73611305
Who would clean the streets in a classless society then and why do you need to liberate 'them'?

>>73612462
i hope no one falls for this bait

this thread has got leftists seething

>>73612462

Because Stalin wanted to annex Finnish clay

Why would have Finland gone in war with Soviet Union?

Yes there was attacks to Soviet Union before
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimosodat
but our goverment didn't involve even in that

>>73612517
> Why would have Finland gone in war with Soviet Union?

You thought Germany will attack from west and you will help from north. Germans chose to not attack in 1939, finns did a mistake.

>>73612561
>this is what russians genuinely believe

>>73612561
Literally what.

>>73612462
Soviets wanted a reason to start a war (so it wouldn't look too bad), so the shots we're framed

Soviet cannons we're smuggled across our border, then shot Mainila

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>>73611870
>>73612443
>>73612478

>>73605538
Why the hell are all these Americans doing here, did you read the Wikipedia page and like 1 book and then started pretending you know more about Finnish war history than anyone else?

>>73612499
>who would clean the streets
We are literally on the borderline of making machines that can do pretty much anything. Its not a question of who but what.

>>73612782
not really pham. I juat find it funny illiterate jukkas fucked up a superpower so badly

>>73612782

Why are you bothered?

>>73612851
Everyone's fucked up Russia at one point or another. Even Afghanistan and Japan.

>>73612353
You would sail here with your 30k men and notice we killed them all with few artillery strikes?

>>73612973
>Boats

lol. Do you still use pikes too? We've got airplanes now.

>>73613091
Airplanes that will be shot down pretty much the second they come here. You would have to get your "army" onto finnish soil

>>73613091
Don't bother, our army is garbage right now, 30 years ago it would have been a different story but not today.

>>73611424
>We also put all communists on concentration camps once and killed them
Kill yourself you history falsifying Wehraboo retard.

>>73613708

Actually when Finnish troops annexed Karelia, there was camps at least for Russian kids

It was a long kept secret, I first time heard about this on history lesson about a year ago

https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%C3%A4-Karjalan_keskitysleirit

>>73614160
And not only kids

>>73605934
>And he fought for Finland, not for nazis.

But Finland, you are the nazis.

>>73605959

Finland fought with Nazis, but for their own goals