>In 750 AD the Mayan population was estimated at 13 million

>built without horses/animals
They had dogs though.

But most importantly they had a cool writing system.

>>73513690
If the Maya had even peaceful contact with Eurasia they still would have been decimated by disease. It was a lose-lose situation unfortunately.

>>73513690
Yes, Spain did many things wrong

>>73513690
>Massive cities and population created in a short period of time

I wouldn't classify 500 years as a short period OP

>>73513690
>bigger than all current European countries at the time
Wrong

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>>73513874
except it'd be gradual and they'd recover quickly over thousands of years.

its the reason why maori or filipinos didn't get fucked by diseases during colonization since they had time to recover and it wasn't all at once.

>>73513875
this was oddly before spain, in 1000 AD they collapse and migrated elsewhere.

they got fucked by the biggest drought the region ever seen, ie the equivalent of europe not having water for decades.

>>73513918
The biggest city Copan was literally bigger than London in 1000AD.

If only.... Native populations in Mexico started recovering in the 1800s.

>>73513690
Lmfao, hell no, 1000 ppl max

>>73514766
Don't be stupid.

>>73513690
retard, there is no evidence supporting such a population from fucking hunter gatherers.

>>73514794
Sentinel island is 400 ppl it's more likely that there were like 1000 maximum population

>>73514838
I'm pretty sure those types of people were one of the first in the world to adopt agriculture.

>>73514794
He is american they are retarded by nature

>>73513690
Do you know what was tha caused their demise? I remember reading it somewhere and that it was due to their economic system or some power struggle.
>>73514838
>>73514908
>american education

>13million mexicans vs 300 malrunished spaniards

>>73515009
There were no 13 million Mexicans, 10,000 maximum

>>73515009
Population of Mexico in 1870s was 6 million or something.

>>73514438
>>73513690
Maya collapsed long before europeans and even showed up

They would have gone no where

>>73515154
The population of the Aztec Empire ( its capital based in present day Mexico DF) was about 5 million at the time of the Spanish arrival. Its capital , Tenochtitlan hd 200,000 people, roughly equal to the size of Paris at the same time.
The Incan Empire ws estimated to have 6 to 14 million, with some estimates going as far as 37 million.

>>73513690
>Twice as big as current population
How could it be- current population with modern technology/medicine/science/education etc. is less then some indian ooogaboooga tribes? Is not it just fuckung WE WUZ BIG fairytailes?

>>73514838
>>73514766
http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/pub/climate-and-the-collapse-of-maya-civilization/1

I am reading a book about ancient Mayans n sheeit. They are really a fascinating and innovative people. They had very limited tools compared to Eurasia (had no cows or pigs or plow animals) but did much more with what they had.

>>73515009
They were reduced pretty hard by the time spaniards came. already in decline.

>>73515583
Region at the time was amazing for farming, climate got fucked, soil erosion happened, etc. They were all concentrated in the highlands but now most mayans live in Yucatan lowlands regions.

IE Combination of factors, but they went from massive city states to smaller towns and villages only. Its the equivalent of Mongols wiping out entire regions and stunting it for centuries.

>>73514838
>hunter gatherers

>>73514838
omg, they never get tired of showing the world how much americans they are

>In 750 AD the Mayan population was estimated at 13 million
Internet gives me many results and all say 2 million

>>73514438
>The biggest city Copan was literally bigger than London in 1000AD.
Because London was 25 times smaller than Costantinople in 1000AD, not because Copan was a giant city

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>>73515800
yea they also had to deal with putting down small civil wars and crazy religious cult worshiping a snake guy. Pretty much imploded thanks to the climate fuckery.

>At the peak of its power in the Late Classic, the kingdom of Copán had a population of at least 20,000 and covered an area of over 250 square kilometers (100 sq mi).[12] The greater Copán area consisting of the populated areas of the valley covered about a quarter of the size of the city of Tikal. It is estimated that the peak population in central Copán was between 6000 and 9000 in an area of 0.6 square kilometers (0.23 sq mi), with a further 9,000 to 12,000 inhabitants occupying the periphery—an area of 23.4 square kilometers (9.0 sq mi). Additionally, there was an estimated rural population of 3,000 to 4,000 in a 476-square-kilometer (184 sq mi) area of the Copán Valley, giving an estimated total population of 18,000 to 25,000 people in the valley during the Late Classic period.[13]

This is nothing. Maidanetske (in modern day Ukraine) in the Cucuteni-Trypillian culture had an estimated population of 16,000 - 42,000 in 3700 BC, and the Cucuteni-Trypillians are suspected of pruposely fucking burning down their own cities after a life-time generation for whatever reason.

>>73513690
I don't think a culture that sacrifices it's citizens at altars to gods would be great or advanced. Also, breeding a large population is easy, rats do it too.

>>73515400
>DF

It's called CDMX now (Cedemequis)

>>73514838
>hunter gatherers.
>muh sacrifice for more games instead of crops

>>73514838
you fucking idiot