Chinese Words Vs American Words

yes

t. chinese

chinese writing has no declensions, conjugations, verb agreements or gendered objects though

and i think it looks better, personally

wait, 汽车 means car? why

>>73504295
because three phonetic letters was too simple for the fucking gooks

they probably wont even need codes and encryption during WWIII because no one can be fucking arsed to learn their bullshit esoteric garbage of a language

>>73504254
Looks like a pain in the neck to read (especially from afar) and write in Mandarin.
At least you can write Roman alphabet in cursive pretty fast.

There are 214 official radicals which make up some 50,000 odd characters, of which maybe 5,000 are actually used in the modern language.
214 radicals for Chinese.
26 letters for English.

>>73504204
always wondered why asians don't change their shitwriting to some kind of alphabet

>>73504204
>You gotta memorize all these big ass stupid over complicated symbols and be able to write them down just to say "car".
And how the fuck is it different from english where letters composing a word are pronounced differently in every fucking word?

English is as logogramic as Korean where unchanging tiddy bits (representing letters) compose a complete word and represent a particular sound.


Polish and many other european languages are phonetic.
They're pronounced as they're written.

>>73504385
Written polish looks like a toddler just banged his fists against a keyboard.

Wzhalahsbldwbe kurwa skavevakmabe ajwocjvs

>>73504295
I guess because they work with combustion.
>>73504204
Having to remember English spelling is the same kind of pain in the ass.
Try getting your countrymen to write "colonel" as "kernel" and you'd have a point.

>>73504460
>i'm too mentally stumped to comprehend the concept of digraphs
okay bub, why are you discussing writing systems then?

>>73504385
>Polish Language
>relavent

We are discussing two major cultures with relevancy on global exchanges and languages not your second world culture that's just gonna be absorbed and assimilated within the century.

>>73504378
same reason americans wont change to the metric system. fucking stubborn cunts

>>73504295
汽
as in 汽油

>>73504204
>English words consist of letters
>Chinese words consist of radicals
It's the same shit t.b.h.

>>73504477
but hinomarukun told me 汽車 meant train?...
has my whole life been a lie?
(´;ω;`)

>>73504529
>has no counterarguments whatsofuckingever
> U S A U S A U S A
if amerismolls got rangebanned from /int/ the quality of the board would skyrocket i'm telling you

>>73504552
gas(oline) vehicles

>>73504569
火车
is train

>>73504295
Why does "car" mean what it means? What about the letters c, a and r used in this combination communicate the concept of a motorised vehicle we know and drive?
Your question is a non-question.

>>73504378
Learn a little about the language and you will know why that would be insane.

>>73504529
>same reason americans wont change to the metric system. fucking stubborn cunts
No, it's not. The situations are entirely different and mainland China already did reform their written language. 汽车 is 汽車 simplified, to use the example in this thread.

>>73504569
Hinomoto oniko's using the word for train probably makes more sense.
In daily language the Chinese just use 車 though.

>>73504552
china a shit

automobile
αυτοkίνητο
自動車

ORDNUNG

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Thinking about learning Canton lads

opinions?

>>73504632
>china a shit
yes

>>73504639
Are you planning on moving to Vivec?

>>73504673
No but I am planning to go to Hong Kong

>>73504632
At least China makes new terms written in their own characters.
You have to admit that 電腦 sounds and looks better than コンピューター.
>>73504639
It sounds ugly, please don't waste your time.

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>>73504608
火車 is a fucking youkai tho?

>>73504730
no it's train
idk what language your speaking

>>73504574
Your point is irrelevant because this discussion, as stated in the thread topic, is Chinese Language Vs English Language.
HURR FUKIN AMERICKANS AMIRIGH EUROBROS LUL

ps: back to back world war champions, youre welcome for the whole nazi thing bud.

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>>73504774
breh it's a fucking youkai goddamnit breh

>>73504800
https://www.google.com/search?q=%E7%81%AB%E8%BB%8A&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiH4-Kru5_TAhUBQyYKHfscA9EQ_AUICCgB&biw=1918&bih=990

go to the japanese general and talk shit there pls tnx

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>>73504720
Close enough.

>>73504730
kek

>>73504775
That's why I countered your ignorant argument saying that English writing and spelling has more in common with Chinese than any other language, becuase your spelling is inconsistent.

but go back to insulting me because my argument challenged your worldview and mentally inconvenienced you greatly.

>>73504872
dat dere is a 輪入道 m8

>>73504729
The Japanese text is far more legible.
Imagine trying to read the Mandarin text from a distance of few metres.

>>73505019
Wanted any excuse to post the image.

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>>73505047
they don't make long passages that you can see from a distance

hence the usage of slogans

you can guess they are always about good fortune so there is no need to read them

>>73505047
Generally not a problem, you don't need to be able to carefully distinguish every part of the character to recognise it.
Plus in a text you'd need to be at about the same distance anyway because Japanese contains 漢字 as well.

>>73505047
It ends up being just like reading English or any other language. Do you think Chinese can't read signs and billboards in the distance?
It become more of a matter of being familiar with the general shape of characters/words. We parse chunks, not read letters.

>>73504204
I'm Japanese-born and can only speak English. Why you fucks didn't force Romaji on us after the war I'll never know.

help how do i learn written Chinese?

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>>73505171
It wouldn't work

>>73505171
The same reason English is all hurr-durr phonetics and retarded spellings.

>>73505171
That is a fucking horrible idea and every appeal to do so was squashed because of how stupid such a thing would be.

>>73505203
Use Remember The Hanzi:
https://www.amazon.com/Remembering-Simplified-Hanzi-Meaning-Characters/dp/0824833236
There are pdf copies floating around the Internet.

>>73505268

Cantonese and Mandarin writing is the same, isnt it?
Can I use this as an assist to learn Cantonese?

>>73505015
>countered your argument
Except you didnt.

>but go back to insulting me
>>if amerismolls got rangebanned from /int/ the quality of the board would skyrocket
uh huh
>mentally inconvenienced you greatly.
lmao, fucking kill yourself loser

>>73505357
they traditionally use traditional

>>73505203
每天認真練習
>>73505357
Many basic terms are actually different in Mandarin and Cantonese, and use different characters as well.
The more advanced words are generally written the same in both dialects though, just pronounced retarded in Cantonese.

>>73505357
Cantonese speakers write the same way as Mandarin. The only time where that isn't the case is in written Cantonese, which is only used in informal settings (e.g. texting, internet forums). If you know one or the other, it makes learning the other much much easier.

t. Canto speaker

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>>73505460
being this assblasted

>>73505512

Thank you very much.

>>73505492

Luckily the book the Aussie linked me has a Traditional version as well so it should be fine

>>73504730
top fucking kekers

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>>73505533
>lol u mad
really bro, grow up

im honestly just happy my shit thread got this many replies and I could string poland guy along for so long with minimum effort

>>73504204
what are radicals
what is stroke order
what are compounds
>Egyptian Hieroglyph-tier shit.
brainlet

>In English you got just 26 letters which cover every noise the human mouth can create.
Why hasn't anyone pointed out this bullshit yet?
It just seems to me like you've never had any contact with any other language that isn't English OP and you're the usual retarded ass American that screeches autistically whenever he stumbles upon something that differs from his sheltered American life.
Even American English has dozens of different accents and naturally different phonology within the same fucking base language.
Japanese has a much better and explicit way of writing diphthongs and of course this makes it much easier to read and pronounce them in comparison to English where diphthongs are not commonly written explicitly and you have to guess.
But of course I don't even expect OP to know what diphthongs are because he just likes to talk bullshit about two languages that doesn't know shit about even if one of them is his native language.

Oh also, where's the ñ in English OP?

>>73504204
>american words

chinese is for enlightened people with superior memory

>>73505795
>its was merely a ruse!!!1
yeah they haven't played that before

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>>73504730
it's a train, what the fuck is a youkai

>>73504254

As a native German speaker, I really have to say that German grammar is nightmare fuel tier.

Compared to that, Chinese language is GOAT. Once you have learned your 20 or so vocabularies, you can already make sentences that are grammatically correct. Compare that to a language with complicated grammar: Even if you know your vocab, you can still speak shit.

>>73506088
As a native Americanese speaker learning German, I really have to agree with you.

>>73505015
but chinese spelling is consistent

>>73506025
wow racist

>>73506088
German is not complicated. You don't even have multiple genders for cars. It's all der Toyota, der Porsche etc

今日は。亜米利加君。

>>73506494
genders arent the problem.

declinations are.

>>73506576
How so?

>>73506576
do you mean declensions or is that something different?

>>73506576
declensions not declinations

>>73506504
>Apologise for war crimes

>汽车
>overcomplicated
lmao those two are like the simplest git gud m8

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>>73506576
>try to learn German
>get declined

>>73504204
>you got just 26 letters which cover every noise the human mouth can create
No. Our 26 letters don't even cover all the sounds we have in English, much less all the sounds humanly possible to produce.

>>73504610
>What about the letters c, a and r used in this combination communicate the concept of a motorised vehicle we know and drive?
Because those 3 letters phonetically match up to the three phonemes that we use in our spoken language to mean "car".

>>73504385
>And how the fuck is it different from english where letters composing a word are pronounced differently in every fucking word?
English is not COMPLETELY non-phonetic. Many words are actually phonetic, and even in the numerous non-phonetic cases, there are a limited number of pronounciation/spelling options. If I hear "tho", the "o" sound can be written only in a limited number of ways in that position (i.e. o/ou/ow/ough; "oa" does make an o-sound, but never word-finally; the word "owe" is a special extention of the "ow" combinatation with the useless french e at the end........but even if I include all of those, you do know it is one of these spellings). Same with guessing the pronunciation of a written word, there is a limited number of options.

Chinese, if I hear "qiche", you will never know how to spell it, unless you already had learned it. But if I asked someone to spell for me the spoken word "car" if they know the English alphabet, they will spell "car" no problem ("kar" is possible, but the guy could know that word-initial k is relatively rare in english)

>>73504204
>trough, though, tough, plough....

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>>73504204
>re-arrange these 26 simple letters in order to make literally every fucking word.
Except english gives no clue on how those letters should be arranged in order to form the words you want, so you have to memorize them before, just like Chinese. Well, at least Chinese gives phonetic and semantic clues and is easier and faster to read.

>>73508325
Jesus fucking christ, you're so goddamn stupid. I really hope you're just trolling because I'm having a really hard time trying to believe someone as ignorant as you can figure out how to browse the internet by yourself.
I didn't even bother reading your entire post. Kill yourself.

>>73508325
what are radicals
門 + 口 = 問
亻+ 門 = 們
mainland mandarin speakers know pinyin too, so you have that as your other optinon.
not sure if bait or genuine brainlet.

>>73508925
(you)

>>73509130
Radicals have nothing to do with this. We are talking about how effective the writing system is for representing words. If I know all the radicals, and I know the pronunciation and meaning of qiche , I cannot know how to spell the word. I need to have already known how to spell it (I need to have already know what radicals are used and in what positions).

>>73509438
>If I know all the radicals, and I know the pronunciation and meaning of qiche
Ask them how to write it then? Failing that, go look up the pinyin.