/brit/

>tfw no Jennie gf

>>73483538
love yanks tbf

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http://vocaroo.com/i/s06MeEly51TF
r8 pls

also cara

taxation is theft

>>73483564
Thought you all hated us

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anime

>>73483580

Moon man, Moon man, can't you see
Spics and niggers need to hang from trees
And I just love your racist ways
I guess that's why their mom is black and you're so great

>>73483573
you're fishing for compliments, the edition was nice enough, now fuck off

>>73483568
good post

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I would prefer to live in a state-capitalist but nationalist state that has reasonably efficient economic planning. Marxism and market-socialism (that which makes existing capitalism far worse especially in the US) is a disease. Social democrats are a blight on mankind and so is unrestrained capitalism.

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S*XONS OUT! OUT! OUT!

>>73483578
>>73483525

If I invent something that people want to buy - something that creates value in the society - why is it bad that I get a portion of the value that is created in compensation for my efforts? Everyone is better off in this scenario - I am motivated to invent because it will improve my lot in life and everyone else gets the benefit of my invention, which improves theirs.

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>>73483568
*taxes you to pay for my NEETbux*

share dividends have already paid for half my holiday, by the end of the year might have fully covered the cost

>>73483596
>Social democrats are a blight on mankind
But what you argued for here basically is SocDem
>I would prefer to live in a state-capitalist but nationalist state that has reasonably efficient economic planning.

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>"just be yourself bro"

>>73483639
Social democrats in practice are politicians who introduce market socialism to a country. They will never nationalize anything.

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Rate the dinner lads

>>73483657
looks tasty 2bh

OI AUSSIE CUNTS:

How much of a presence does the Queen have in the Australian/NZ zeitgeist? Even here I don't know any one who gives a single toss about the old bag, literally all we see of her is on our money and maybe every now and then on the TV.
Can't comprehend how little of a fuck you lads would give.

>>73483648
astounded by how that bloke on the left's chest hair swirles around two axes like that

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>spain

>>73483657
i, too, eat my dinner out of the pot i cooked it in

>>73483653
market socialism would be Yugoslavia no?

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>>73483648
Hmmmm

>>73483619
>why is it bad that I get a portion of the value that is created in compensation for my efforts?
because the vast majority of people work for someone else so it's unlikely that you yourself will profit much

if you innovate and manage to save your company millions you might get a small bonus but you certainly won't get anywhere near 100%

furthermore in a capitalist society people are competing with each other not collaborating.

>>73483675
Literally no reason not to

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>Even here I don't know any one who gives a single toss about the old bag

>>73483619
>everyone else gets the benefit of my invention, which improves theirs
also this is incorrect. patents and the like actively prevent this

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>socialism

>>73483694
psychologically i think it's better to eat with plates and bowls. it makes me feel more organised, more adult, more normie.

>>73483709
>patents last forever

>>73483619
everything you make is only possible because of the labour of billions of others, now and in the past

individualism is foolish. why should any one individual get to reap all the rewards for comparatively little work?

all is for all

Is it gay wanting to use my gfs cranberry "shower creme" lads? it smeels fucking delicious

cant recommend shares enough; im not talking about buying and selling like some mad eejit, i mean investing in a well established stable company

like a savings account but instead of £1-2 in interest per year you get a few £100s in dividends

>>73483744
FONT FONT FONT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dh7COSiB7g

wew

>>73483744
Do you want men to come onto you?

>>73483744
Bit gay that

>>73483740
>why should any one individual get to reap all the rewards for comparatively little work?
because that's how all real development is made, by people standing on the shoulders of giants

not by muckrucking hordes

>>73483757
>i mean investing in a well established stable company
this
exactly
too many idiots think daytrading is what you need to do
I treat my portfolio as a savings account and just enjoy the trickling income

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Why is modern British history so humiliating?
>destroy ourselves defending Poland
>don't even manage to save them
>get completely superseded by a former fucking colony
>they dismantle our empire while at the same time dragging us as their lapdog all across the world
>all of our former dominions become distant and forget about us

At least we kept a couple of rocks, r-r-right? And surely Brexit (won by a pitifully small margin) will turn things around, h-hmm?

>>73483683

> because the vast majority of people work for someone else so it's unlikely that you yourself will profit much

In a capitalist society people are generally compensated for their efforts, that's how it works. If you invent something that people want to use you will be rewarded.

> also this is incorrect. patents and the like actively prevent this

It is for that reason that patents typically have very clear restrictions. For example, they only last 20 years and can not be filed on obvious iterations of products. The patent system rewards truly novel inventions and reward their creators but still allow society to iterate after time.

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What is the difference between /brit/ and /britfeels/?

The number of pepes allowed or something??

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>>73483798
>>get completely superseded by a former fucking colony

off to >>>/pol/ with you dumb commies
its too late for this passive aggressive rubbish.

>>73483773
Out you go into the wilderness then. Don't expect any help from anyone ever. No doubt a supreme ubermensch like you can handle that.

Those "giants" would be nothing without support. Even fucking Einstein knew that.

>Man is, at one and the same time, a solitary being and a social being. As a solitary being, he attempts to protect his own existence and that of those who are closest to him, to satisfy his personal desires, and to develop his innate abilities. As a social being, he seeks to gain the recognition and affection of his fellow human beings, to share in their pleasures, to comfort them in their sorrows, and to improve their conditions of life. It is quite possible that the relative strength of these two drives is, in the main, fixed by inheritance. But the personality that finally emerges is largely formed by the environment in which a man happens to find himself during his development, by the structure of the society in which he grows up, by the tradition of that society, and by its appraisal of particular types of behavior. The abstract concept "society" means to the individual human being the sum total of his direct and indirect relations to his contemporaries and to all the people of earlier generations. The individual is able to think, feel, strive, and work by himself; but he depends so much upon society -- in his physical, intellectual, and emotional existence -- that it is impossible to think of him, or to understand him, outside the framework of society. It is "society" which provides man with food, clothing, a home, the tools of work, language, the forms of thought, and most of the content of thought; his life is made possible through the labor and the accomplishments of the many millions past and present who are all hidden behind the small word "society."

>>73483767
not that hard
100%7 = 98 remainder 2
so monday + 2 days = wednesday

>>73483807
/brit/ is for lads.
/britfeel/ is for boys.

honestly hate Brits or Commonwealthers that oppose the monarchy. I can't really articulate why but I just do. I just enjoy having such a difference between us and the UK and it would be so fucking boring if it wasn't there.

making a bacon and egg sandwich, really want a coffee with it, but scared to make coffee because the coffee machine is so loud

>>73483790
good la

>>73483810
a former colony, perhaps?

>>73483798
it's not humiliating at all

britain, a small island in the north atlantic with a small population, took over the world

speaks to the superiority of the anglo saxon man

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>>73483833
Free guillotines for monarchists.

>>73483807
every time someone mentions /britfeel/ i go find it and its dead

Hi Liam

>>73483869
its always up though

we're lucky, we're the only country with a general on 3 boards

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>>73483833
Nationalist Republican here

>>73483874
Stop it, I know you saw my post

>>73483874
liam's asleep

will be waking up around midnight eastern standard time

t. knower

>>73483886
the sun never sets on the /brit/ empire huh

>>73483833
i hate anti monarchy brits. they are always utterly braindead mouth breathing povvos that are seething because the monarchy live in luxury, in their minds, at their expense. fact is the monarchy generates more revenue in tourism than they consume in taxes, hatred of them seems to only come from contempt, projections of their own shortcomings on those more fortunate

>>73483830
So that means that I can use "boy" as an insult then?

Genuinely consider non-engineers as almost subhuman desu

>Not being named after a family member

laughing at you

this country's fucking shit and needs a major overhaul
people still pretend that we're a great empire
even though most people live in absolute squalor

>>73483803
>In a capitalist society people are generally compensated for their efforts, that's how it works. If you invent something that people want to use you will be rewarded.
yes thats the idea but it doesn't work like that in practice. the edison's of the world will beat the tesla's nine times out of ten

>It is for that reason that patents typically have very clear restrictions. For example, they only last 20 years and can not be filed on obvious iterations of products. The patent system rewards truly novel inventions and reward their creators but still allow society to iterate after time.
stifling innovation for a nonsense reason.

>>73483833
>it would be boring if a country 4000 miles weren't subservient cuckolds
sounds like you need to get a life mate

>>73483827
nothing but meaningless semantics
yes a society is necessary to produce these "great works" of one sort or another, you need people on every level to make things work, that's the whole purpose of Civilization.

that being said all of this falls apart without order and hierarchy. a farmer may grow the corn that becomes the food the scientist eats, but ultimately he is on a lower tier of the total scale of human production while the Scientist/artist/philosopher occupies the higher and more abstract sphere which pushes at the boundaries of human awareness.

one you start to break down the pyramid, tear down the top layers, you end up with a crab bucket where no one can reach that higher sphere without absolutely superhuman effort, and even then its likely impossible to push beyond it.
as a result all of humanity is lowered to the level of the most basic in our society.

>>73483937
>engineers
subhuman school dropouts

>>73483940
t. john henry lanslott the 4th

you're all subhuman compared to me filthy engnicuck subhumans

>>73483963
t. Nigel Thornberry

aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh yes
aaahhhhh.... yes

>>73483980
my name is james

makin' fondue

listenging to kate bush

>>73483944

> yes thats the idea but it doesn't work like that in practice. the edison's of the world will beat the tesla's nine times out of ten

supposing that you're right, that's STILL better than receiving nothing for your efforts ten times out of ten...

> stifling innovation for a nonsense reason.

it's not a nonsense reason though

see: >>73483156

haha

girl I went to school with has become one of those people who's moved to london and loves london and posts pro-london shite on facebook
and she's a leftie

>>73484004
Probably because London is objectively, factually, literally the greatest city in the UK

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haha

>>73484000
which song?

just kidding, it's wuthering heights

>>73484004
how do londoners feel about those kinds

i dont live in a big city so i wouldnt know

>>73484026

'sheed

what is a scran
answer me

>>73484040
But London has more white people than any other city in the UK. It has more white people than any Australian city.

>>73484026
it's objectively the best asset to the UK. it's also almost objectively the shittest place to live

>he wears boxers rather than briefs

Redflag for a manchild

pirate scumbags

>>73484053

what percentage of london's population is white though

>>73484064
I wear boxer-briefs

>>73484064
boxers are better for sperm health

>>73484093
the gay man's choice

>>73484099
Only part time gay desu

>Unemployment Makes Men Unattractive and Crazy

i'm fucked

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/brit/ is a yank general

>>73484064
I don't wear underwear

>>73483948
>Man is, at one and the same time, a solitary being and a social being. As a solitary being, he attempts to protect his own existence and that of those who are closest to him, to satisfy his personal desires, and to develop his innate abilities. As a social being, he seeks to gain the recognition and affection of his fellow human beings, to share in their pleasures, to comfort them in their sorrows, and to improve their conditions of life. Only the existence of these varied, frequently conflicting strivings accounts for the special character of a man, and their specific combination determines the extent to which an individual can achieve an inner equilibrium and can contribute to the well-being of society. It is quite possible that the relative strength of these two drives is, in the main, fixed by inheritance. But the personality that finally emerges is largely formed by the environment in which a man happens to find himself during his development, by the structure of the society in which he grows up, by the tradition of that society, and by its appraisal of particular types of behavior. The abstract concept "society" means to the individual human being the sum total of his direct and indirect relations to his contemporaries and to all the people of earlier generations. The individual is able to think, feel, strive, and work by himself; but he depends so much upon society -- in his physical, intellectual, and emotional existence -- that it is impossible to think of him, or to understand him, outside the framework of society. It is "society" which provides man with food, clothing, a home, the tools of work, language, the forms of thought, and most of the content of thought; his life is made possible through the labor and the accomplishments of the many millions past and present who are all hidden behind the small word "society."
so is all your crap about hierarchy
typical elitist mentality

>>73484064
>>73484073
>>73484084
>>73484093
>>73484099
>>73484110
>>73484135
>>73484144
I wonder what the longest, uninterrupted chain of jf flags in /brit/ has been

>text walls

it's like you deliberately don't want people to hear what you have to say

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winning that argument against the commie runt was the highlight of my day

>>73484177
good lad

>>73484168
last night there was 21 straight jf posts

sure there's been more than that at some point

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>>73483924
>because the monarchy live in luxury, in their minds, at their expense

Well yeah they do.

Cannot wait for the day Buckingham Palace is turned into the State Palace of the British Republic.

>>73483798
Why is it humiliating that Britain used to be the greatest nation on earth, and now it's biggest colony is the greatest nation on earth
You should be proud of America

>>73484002
>supposing that you're right, that's STILL better than receiving nothing for your efforts ten times out of ten...
You wouldn't receive "nothing" in a communist society for innovating; you'd get the inherent reward of the innovation you've made.

In a capitalist society actual innovations can be suppressed because they aren't worth it in terms of capital. For example it would make no sense for a pharmaceutical company to develop a drug that cures the common cold because they'd lose out in the long term on people not buying paracetamol and aspirin. However it would make perfect sense for them to develop a drug with awful side effects because they'd make a fortune firstly on selling the drug and then the drugs to remedy it.

In a communist society this bullshit wouldn't need to happen. The incentive for developing a cure for the common cold is that you won't ever have to suffer from a cold anymore and neither will anyone else which will benefit you. Sure you'd miss out on potentially being able to buy yourself a massive yacht and spunk money up the wall but would that really make you happy anyway?

>>73483156
this argument does not apply to stateless communism which is what i am arguing for. people would indeed try and do as little work as possible so they'd have to innovate and automise as much as possible. in a capitalist society there's no incentive for a worker to automise himself out of a job

>>73484168
I'm not a JF

Britain is my spirit animal

>>73484151
ah yes
its a "post huge quote to fill up my post and make it look like I can think" episode
I already read it the first time lad and I don't see how what I said is contrary to the idea that society is necessary for such great developments, or how this somehow disproves the need for hierarchy in said society.

>>73483941
What's your 5 point plan to make Britain Great Again

>>73484204
probably has to do with them dismantling the empire and us still believing they're our allies 2bh

>stateless communism
*crowd groans and begins to leave*

>>73484168
I personally identify as a brit. Checkmate

does anyone want to join a team and do this together? https://picoctf.com/ even if you aren't good with computers you can still float team name ideas

>>73484241
fuck off hierarchy cuck

Hate those mental cunts who crack their necks like it's not weird

where's that aussie runt that plays chess? could heem him

the (((Jews)))

>>73484223
You only think hierarchy is necessary because you envisage yourself benefiting from it. Or maybe you already do, and you fear losing out.

A typical reactionary in every sense. Not really surprising though, given the historic middle class support for fascism to stave off revolution.

>>73484255
>society without hierarchy
loving every laugh
you put 10 people in a room together and systems of hierarchy will emerge

fluid hierarchy is an exceedingly better goal than no hierarchy

>>73484236
But you are our allies

haven't wanked in ten days

>>73484236
America saved you from German domination in WW1 and Soviet domination in WW2
Be grateful for once
It's your fault with Gallipoli nonsense, etc that the empire is dead
Nobody wanted the empire when colonials realised the pommies thought they were expendable

>>73484279
yeah but it's a bit misleading to say america is our ally when they've always acted against our interests

>>73484262
are you the yank that tries to play scholar's mate every time?

>>73484299
When?

>>73484266
are the Anglos greatest ally against yurocucks and dunecoons

>>73484299
They fucking saved you multiple times and you always tag along America in geopolitics
Stop being deluded

>>73484268
I already benefit from hierarchy without being anywhere close to the pinnacle of it

yet again can you give me some reasons why hierarchy is a bad thing? or how exactly you can organize a civilized society (or any society) without it, and why it would be better.

>>73484307
After the second world war

anyone here know about the city of london corporation? just reading about it. shady as fuck

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/oct/31/corporation-london-city-medieval

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SOMEONE CALLED SARGON OF AKKAD A PHILOSOPHER AND I LITERALLY CRIED LAUGHING.

THIS HASN'T HAPPENED IN YEARS LADS FUCK ME.

HE SAYS FEMINISTS ARE DUMB AND HE'S COMPARED TO FUCKING SOCRATES.

I'M DYING OVER HERE.

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He died for our sins?

>>73484320
Have you been living under a rock?
Britain has tagged along America's geopolitical interests ever since they saved you twice
America never goes against Britain's interests, you just go along with America's interests out of gratitude for America saving you twice

@73484346
fuck off

Rather like this kiwi

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the lass is so spontaneous!

>>73484346
pjw mentioned stefan molyneux in a list of prominent people opposed to the syria strike
he named him in the same sentence as nigel farage and several us senators

rightists are a joke

>>73484318
>yet again can you give me some reasons why hierarchy is a bad thing?
It oppresses the masses who run society. It leads to alienation, corruption and abuse of power by those fortunate enough to be born into privilege.
>or how exactly you can organize a civilized society (or any society) without it, and why it would be better.
freely associating individuals are more than capable of running things. it would remove the sense of alienation, despair and tyranny everyone unlucky enough to be outside the system of power feels. everyone would be free to pursue their interests, contributing to society as needed, without the coercion of being excluded thanks to uncontrollable forces such as birth, nobility, property and class.

not sure why I'm arguing with you though really, it's quite clear you're firmly set in your views.

I tried watching some "top football goals today". Included fan favourites like Messi, Ronaldo, and that cut in front guy.

Have to say I was really uninspired. Not sure why people think soccer is fun to watch.

kiwiANO

@73484374
THIS IS /BRIT/ NOT /FAT/
GET OUT OF HERE

>>73484377
probably because he saves your yank feelings from being hurt

it's historical fact that the yanks supported decolonisation

Good to see /brit/ full of anglo, non-American people

>>73484385
>Stefan Molyneux owns Free Domain Radio
>US Senators rape children

I know who I'd rather be in a room with.

really hope that aussie hasn't fucked off thinking he has won this battle of the minds

kind of don't want him to read this because i'd pretend to have left if i had been BTFO that hard too

>>73484384

imagine being a childless couple who owns nerf guns

millenials are such a failure

Having a beer to celebrate the battle of the minds I just won

>>73484366
>America never goes against Britain's interests
what about suez?

>>73484401
NZ supported decolonisation you muppet
Ever since Gallipoli we didn't want anything to do with the empire bullshit
Every year at school we learn about Gallipoli, we will remember them

>>73484423
ummmm no sweetie i made the last post therefore i won x

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>imagine being a childless couple who owns nerf guns

>millenials are such a failure

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>>73484419
pic related

>>73484423
fuck this reminds me i was planning on drinking 3 beers with my pizza for dinner but i forgot and had water instead

>>73484423
having one to celebrate it as well, cheers

>>73484446
don't understand modern nerds

>>73484438
Honestly don't even know what Aussie you're on about, I'm just ruffling your feathers x

>>73484384
she calls me husband and i call her wife. we have never learned each others names as we are too busy playing nerf(tm)

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>I tried watching some "top football goals today". Included fan favourites like Messi, Ronaldo, and that cut in front guy.
>Have to say I was really uninspired. Not sure why people think soccer is fun to watch.

>>73484446
you can tell if his wife bought him a skirt he would happily wear it

There was no net benefit to European colonization.

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>Having a beer to celebrate the battle of the minds I just won

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>you can tell if his wife bought him a skirt he would happily wear it

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battle of minds won

night lads
don't let the bourgeoisie bite

>>73484427
Of course America didn't want 3 of its allies (UK, France, Israel) invading another of its allies (Egypt)
That's why they stopped you 3
If Australia decided to invade NZ, America would stop them

>>73484465
>tfw no wife to buy me a skirt

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>>73484444

>>73484004
Happens all the time in the USA; some girl will move from Armpit, Ohio to NYC than post all this shite about "the city" and "the park" and "doing brunch" like she's fecking Carrie Bradshaw

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Woah wtf I just found out weedman was literally born on Christmas. I'm not gonna lie, I honestly think he seems like a cool dude, even though he's almost certainly a secret republican. I know he gets a lot of hate, but what exactly has he done that's awful?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/apr/12/two-in-five-gps-in-south-west-of-england-plan-to-quit-survey-finds

hmmm, ah yes
the NHS safe in Tory hands

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rate the vintage gf

Is there anything more pathetic than a young couple saying they don't want children because it might interfere with their lifestyle?

Don't fedora me, this is a legitimate question.

Wife just bought me a skirt that was two sizes too large

Beat the stupid bitch about the head and told her she better come back with a matching handbag while she's at it

>>73484466
Irish prisoners ironically were the only Europeans who actually did colonisation properly (systematically kill the natives)

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>>73484386
>It oppresses the masses who run society
the issue is that the masses don;t run society

this is a common pitfall Marxists fall into, Labour alone has no value, resources alone have no value. Marx's theory of Labour Value is unequivocally wrong and thus his entire philosophic framework is nonsense.
ultimately labour has no value on its own and the capitalist would argue that value is only created when there is a buyer to pay more than the cost of production. Hence the capitalist lying in bed would be creating value as long as his business is turning a profit. In capitalism, work itself has no value because work might not turn a profit and only becomes valuable after the exchange of assets. Work aids in creating value, no doubt, but only the investment of capital has the final say on what is "valuable." more than this, Marxism is strictly materialist, cherry-picking through Hegel yet ignoring the single thing that truly does have value; ideas and the will to execute them.

a factory worker no more "runs" society than your stomach "runs" the human body. of course you would die if your stomach somehow was removed, yet it serves no purpose without the mighty brain and other organs to feed.
the Marxist seems to think that cutting the stomach, or the heart, or whatever else out from "bodily servitude" is a sort of liberation, when in fact it only dooms both to death.
feel free to franticly scan through reddit and MArxist.org for more quotes to spam.

>>73484209

> You wouldn't receive "nothing" in a communist society for innovating; you'd get the inherent reward of the innovation you've made.

If some genius has the potential to invent something that doesn't have an "inherent reward" for himself you expecting them to be motivated enough to put all this effort into creating their invention for no other reason than altruistic purposes? Altruistic purposes, that motivate almost nobody to put that kind of effort into anything.

> In a capitalist society actual innovations can be suppressed because they aren't worth it in terms of capital. For example it would make no sense for a pharmaceutical company to develop a drug that cures the common cold because they'd lose out in the long term on people not buying paracetamol and aspirin. However it would make perfect sense for them to develop a drug with awful side effects because they'd make a fortune firstly on selling the drug and then the drugs to remedy it.

The company doesn't have exclusive rights to sell paracetamol or aspirin, they would have exclusive rights to sell medication that cures the common cold. Even if they did lose some profits (which is EXTREMELY unlikely since pharmaceutical companies have to offer competitive prices for paracetamol and aspirin) they would still have a competitive advantage over the other pharmaceutical companies for like 20 years.

> In a communist society this bullshit wouldn't need to happen. The incentive for developing a cure for the common cold is that you won't ever have to suffer from a cold anymore and neither will anyone else which will benefit you. Sure you'd miss out on potentially being able to buy yourself a massive yacht and spunk money up the wall but would that really make you happy anyway?

Who would even fund R&D to cure the common cold in a communist society? The incentive wouldn't be worth the resources or efforts required to cure the common cold.

>>73484506
>this is a legitimate question.
No it's not. It's not your business whether a couple does or does not want sprogs.

>>73484506
Nothing wrong
The world is severely overpopulated and there needs to be a mass culling of humans to protect the biodiversity of this planet and save the enviroment

>>73484506
I always wonder what "lifestyle" the could be living which is so important and also fragile
when I was a baby my parents would take me on their back hiking through the mountains of BC and Washington.

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>>73484498
Economic mismanagement. His social involvements are obnoxious, but don't threaten the country.

>>73484540
Having a kid is a big fucking deal

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business idea: quote large chunks of a post to make it seem like I have a long well thought out rebuttal

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the ol lass

>>73484553
oh please that's nothing

>>73484558
these people seem to live completely trivial lives anyway, literal adult babies

>>73484562

ok?

>>73484506
Individualism will be the death of us. I don't see why it matters though, it's too late

>>73484498
he's in a position that's way above his capacity which can make him dangerous if he ever decides to listen to himself over his cabinet but he doesn't so overall he's harmless

>he fedoraposts

Sad!

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>>73484553
>tfw he could've bought me a lambo and set of gold dentures with that money but he spent it on sand people instead

business idea: abolish taxes

>>73484527
There comes a point where individuality needs to cede to social values, and if a society is only at 1.5-1.7 fertility rate, well shy of 2.1 replacement rate, then it is completely legitimate for people to condemn a short-sighted practice that is simply not sustainable. Not to mention, the decision to not have kids is probably a bad decision for most couples - they can buy all the dogs they want, but their extra time on the weekends won't make up for the absence of a legacy, and a familial bond that's unparalleled to any other - an actual child.

>>73484535
>The world is severely overpopulated

Wrong, the world is only overpopulated in certain regions where local resources fall short of demands (ex. poverty stricken regions, ironically where population growth is fastest). And the solution to reducing environmental footprints is to make lifestyle changes that do so, not to depopulate a people.

Not to mention, a western couple's decision to not have kids won't mean anything for global population. Governments still want 2-3% growth and with that means population growth. If they can't get the kids from domestic production, then they import them from high-population growth regions who continue to pump out more kids to fill the voids in their society now that they're being braindrained of their best and brightest.

business idea: shag average mexican girl i matched with on tinder

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>>73484597

> Individualism will be the death of us.

don't start

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>>73484597
This childish individualist mindset you'll hear constantly like

>if you cant gut a deer or build a log cabin then youre not a real man 2bh
>dont care about politics you gotta get the orangutan mindset
>guns are for the weak i judge men by how big their biceps is

is just a way to disguise nihilism.

>>73484624
EXCELLENT idea
lost an obscene amount in tax to a country I'm not even going to be living in soon
at least I got a nice tax return
love how they make it seem like such a gift, getting a little bit of YOUR money back.

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>>73484516
>the issue is that the masses don;t run society
>Labour alone has no value
That's where you're wrong kiddo. Without labour, nothing gets done.
>Marx's theory of Labour Value is unequivocally wrong
Nah. Read up on the TSSI or Sraffa. Or read Cockshott. It's more than possible to show that LTV is accurate. Far more than any half-cooked Austrian school nonsense.

>"Labour was the first price, the original purchase - money that was paid for all things. It was not by gold or by silver, but by labour, that all wealth of the world was originally purchased."

Adam Smith said that, not Marx. Funny how capitalists worship him.

>but only the investment of capital has the final say on what is "valuable
Hence why capitalism has to go

>a factory worker no more "runs" society than your stomach "runs" the human body. of course you would die if your stomach somehow was removed, yet it serves no purpose without the mighty brain and other organs to feed.
A nice image but wrong. Capitalists are not the brain and are wholly unnecessary. It is not an immutable biological relation that governs capitalism, but an abstract socioeconomic system. Workers already run society. They just have to seize control of it in every field and exterminate the bourgeoisie.

>gommies got thoroughly BTFO
>continue posting

cannot be fabricated

>>73484653
Are you the leaf that's moving to Vietnam?

>>73484581
Yeah you know, just fuck Newton or George Clooney or any of those no-baby literal adult babies

>>73484663
yea, ticket booked for the end of the month

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>>73484659

>>73484631
We need to drastically limit immigration and give free contraceptives to all third worlders

Business idea: Joe Rogan podcast but with me instead of Joe

>>73484631
>There comes a point where individuality needs to cede to social values, and if a society is only at 1.5-1.7 fertility rate, well shy of 2.1 replacement rate, then it is completely legitimate for people to condemn a short-sighted practice that is simply not sustainable
Nope. You have no say on what others do with their bodies, ever. Fuck off, control freak.
>legacy
Utterly irrelevant. It's endlessly fascinating how many people buy into this aristocratic narrative. In 100 years nobody will care about regardless of your biological "legacy". And that's a good thing.

Not everyone should be a parent, nor should they want to be.

>>73484664
Didn't know Newton was on par with people whose free time was filled by hiking, swinging, vapid travelling, drugs, and video games.

>>73484674
The other Thaiflag here spent some time there, you should talk to him.

>>73484674
You better watch out, I hear they hate the Chinese over there

Business idea: Americans can't make chocolate anymore, all American chocolate is to be bought from Canada.

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>>73484659

screaming

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>>73484659
Yeah, that didn't happen, sorry.

>>73484678
:^)

>>73484700
The point is that not having a child != leading a trivial life

You can look up more childless greats if you're that interested

>>73484197
what are you talking about? they generate more than they consume. eirgo, a financial asset. so your opinion on them literal boils down to envy and petty jealousy. you's forefit the revenue they generate in tourism and the cultural significance they have because

>muh gibs me dat
>they have nice things and i don't

literal tantrum baby

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>>73484720
That's how it begins.

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>the white race WILL go extinct in your lifetime

feels good. love the tears of white nationalists runt over "white genocide". it's not real yet, but it should be, and it will.

capitalism crushed communism into oblivion

communism was beaten so badly it now only resides in the minds of sociology professors and uni runts

>>73484720
Good one this

really hope that commie brit hasn't fucked off thinking he has won this battle of the minds

kind of don't want him to read this because i'd pretend to have left if i had been BTFO that hard too

>>73484639
dumb frogposter

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>some people are thrifty and hard-working
>others are NEETS; don't care for work

hm yes let's just steal money from the former to subsidize the latter's unwillingness to apply himself

JUST

>>73484736
Vietnam send a hello to you

>>73484735
you do realise that there's no such thing as 'the white race'?

>>73484732
>they generate more than they consume
Only in petty tourism, which is worthless and produces nothing of value.
>so your opinion on them literal boils down to envy and petty jealousy
I hate injustice and unearned privilege. If you want to put it that way, then fine. I do not seek a moral high ground but a physical one. If the earth can be cleansed of monarchies, then good, call me what you want.

>>73484762
would you rather unemployed people not be given any support and left to die on the streets?

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>>73484733
yes yes, I remember the 400 gorillion innocent kulaks personally murdered by Karltural Marx.

>>73484780
Yes, because most of them wouldn't.

>>73484697
>You have no say on what others do with their bodies, ever. Fuck off, control freak.

Is this satire? Of course the social contract means that a society can legitimately encroach even unto one's bodily autonomy, if necessary. Ie. the application of force by police, detention and confinement in instances, etc.

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stole this image from a lad a few hours ago and i'm posting it here without his permission haha

>>73484763
vietnam isn't communist and the united states is now its biggest trading partner

funny how that all ended up

now go away monkey

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Science-fiction is nonsense runt shit 99% of the time. I love Star Trek, but it falls into the inevitable trap of being idealistic and uninteresting shit where species like Ferengi and Klingons are used to denigrate existing ideas. I want a science-fiction that really pulsates your almond glands by how dystopian or questionable it is. I want a Shadow of the Torturer film or science fiction in that style and not a conduit for progressive ideas.

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Hmm...

>>73484735
if or when the white race is extencted. the world will collapse, technological progression will grind to a halt. the world will become a religious and tribal shit hole and regress humanity back to... well, what it was before whites showed up lol

>>73484783
It's very convenient at the same time terms such as "nazi" and "racist" are becoming broader to the point of simply meaning "anyone that doesn't agree with me" We also have this rising group of people openly justifying violence to anyone that can group into these terms.

Luckily they're all beta male cucks that are going to get curb stomped if things ever do get violent in a serious way.

star trek voyager is pure kino

>>73484791
>Is this satire? Of course the social contract means that a society can legitimately encroach even unto one's bodily autonomy, if necessary. Ie. the application of force by police, detention and confinement in instances, etc.

That is not the same thing as punishing people for something they haven't done, and may not even want to do. That's a gross violation of personal freedom. Natalism is foolish since it assumes life is inherently worth something.

Humanity may be getting browner for now, but after we colonize mars, or are forced to live underground, or in a space vessel, humanity will naturally evolve to be fair-skinned again. Playing the long game.

>>73484655
see >>73484562

again you don;t seem to understand, yes labour is necessary but to claim that only labour and recources have any value, as Marx does, is completely wrong. Labour alone has no value, with this mindset you again end up like China who creates so much steel that there isn't even any demand for it and prices are plummeting worldwide but they won;t shut the factories down since it would put people out of work. you have titanic mountains of steel piling up that is increasingly worth jack shit.

capital as well is not inherently valuable, but the idea of capital is which is what is really important, and why something akin to the "capitalist" is and always has been a necessity.
now maybe you can make some arguemtns against the more paracitic elements of our society like finances and such who basically play with the idea of capital to funnel value towards themselves, but these people do not make up the entirety of our social structure nor are they as important as Marxists make them out to be.
Not to mention often these bankers and financiers are the people who make thinks happen through the redistribution of large sums of capital, the man who wants to start a business of his own borrows money from such a place and uses that to create something, adding to the society as a whole. in this way they act as patrons which have historically funded every great work society has birthed.

the way I see it, attacking corruption within these systems is a much better alternative to tearing them down completely leaving us all to wallow in the mud or forced to make toothbrushes for The People's Toothbrush Fence across Eurasia

>>73484807
>extencted
You guys invented the language, yet you can't even speak it?

>>73484824
Voyager and DS9 made the error of trying to imitate a sort of soap opera. TNG was so cozy by having a set almost like a real-life play with representational props and classically trained actor like Picard. TOS is in this style as well and not like a soap opera.

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>>73484810
>Luckily they're all beta male cucks that are going to get curb stomped if things ever do get violent in a serious way.

Just like last time, right Herr Thailad?

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looks like capitalism has won the battle of the minds yet again

unironically my anthem

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>>73484853

>>73484847
the two aren't even remotely comparable and you know it. Try to focus on the reality of today.

>>73484764
Not in objective reality, but the social construct of whiteness must perish

>>73484807
Good.

>jack off
>premature and projectile load
>cant find what went on the floor

hate this

>>73484800
most science fiction is a bit shit honestly but a cosy read

Foundation is a true classic stepping beyond the bounds of genre fiction shittery,
dune and book of the new sun are solid as well but both fall into the pit of "goofy names", though Herbert does a good job of making silly alien sounding things quickly understandable

thailad stream please!

>>73484766
>I do not seek moral high ground

good because you don't have it in any respect. What makes tourism "petty"? it is revenue. how is revenue "worthless". The tourism it generates us actually puts London in the top most visited cities in the world.

>injustice and unearned privilege
There is no injustice in the monarchy. Their privilege is earned by their existence. Aside from that, if you don't think being a monarch is a life of duty, you're a fucking idiot. Why do you think the royal family has so many defectors? Can't handle responsibility of living up to the publics expectations under constant scrutiny.

Would be willing to bet every member of the royal family has probably done more work in any given year of their adulthood than you have in your entire fifteen years of existence.

TLDR you are a petty jealous baby who expects something for nothing

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listning 2 red armee kwire

>>73484888
at work

>>73484843
DS9 felt like a play at times as well, and Sisko was classically trained.

Business idea: capitalism with a generous social safety net and universal healthcare, and an extensive welfare state.

see: scandinavian cunts

>>73484519
>If some genius has the potential to invent something that doesn't have an "inherent reward" for himself you expecting them to be motivated enough to put all this effort into creating their invention for no other reason than altruistic purposes? Altruistic purposes, that motivate almost.....
In this world people are going to have a lot of free time. Jobs that contribute nothing (the entire financial sector/police/military etc.) would cease to exist and secondly there would be no need for continued economic growth. This would free up huge amounts of the workforce to do the essential jobs to the point where everyone would need to work probably less than 4 hours a day to maintain a comfortable standard of living. Some people are content with shitposting on 4chan until the early hours of the morning but for everyone else, why wouldn't they dedicate some time to solving this problem?

>The company doesn't have exclusive rights to sell paracetamol or aspirin, they would have exclusive rights to sell medication that cures the common cold.
So they'd be free to charge exuberant prices well beyond what it costs to manufacture(which they do currently for other drugs), pricing out many at a detriment to society.

>Even if they did lose some profits (which is EXTREMELY unlikely since pharmaceutical companies have to offer competitive prices for paracetamol and aspirin) they would still have a competitive advantage over the other pharmaceutical companies for like 20 years.
After which a huge chunk of their sector has disappeared as now everyone's immune.

>Who would even fund R&D to cure the common cold in a communist society? The incentive wouldn't be worth the resources or efforts required to cure the common cold.
The entire population of the world would benefit from curing the common cold, there absolutely would be the effort. People would be free to collaborate with each to speed up the process, unhindered by war/different countries/lack of access to education

wow that took longer than it felt like

>>73484824
it's okay
there's a lot of stinkers
but when it's good, it's really fucking great

>>73484910
addendum: no wogs or girls allowed

>>73484831
>That is not the same thing as punishing people for something they haven't done, and may not even want to do. That's a gross violation of personal freedom.

Okay but I'm not suggesting we need some punitive remedy to the population crisis, that's absurd. Instead, I would offer economic incentives for fertility (ex. long parental leaves, subsidized daycare, lower tuition fees, tax credits for things like child sporting involvements, etc.), coupled with a strategy of mass social shaming of voluntarily childless couples.

The norms of social behaviour limit individuality to the extent that a society demands conformance in a certain practice. Subtle and uncontroversial norms like the length of "body distance", or making fun of and belittling people who act obnoxious. The same should extend to the 'nerf gun' esque 30-somethings without kids (voluntarily).

>Natalism is foolish since it assumes life is inherently worth something.
But if lives are inherently worthless then how do you justify the principle of human equality -- the principle that is the bedrock of communism (assuming you're the communist poster)?

>>73484867
>Good

He says from a platform created for him by white people

73484807<<
this

>>73484867
'd

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>>73484941

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the Star Wars offshoots are pure kino
https://youtu.be/9WBY-C-VKTg

>>73484843
exploration of relationships is an important part of getting to know a character and i don't think that voyager and ds9 took it far enough to the point of being soap opera-ish in part because the characters have the shared goal of trying to get back to earth

tng is my 2nd favourite after voyager

>>73484834
>again you don;t seem to understand, yes labour is necessary but to claim that only labour and recources have any value, as Marx does, is completely wrong. Labour alone has no value, with this mindset you again end up like China who creates so much steel that there isn't even any demand for it and prices are plummeting worldwide but they won;t shut the factories down since it would put people out of work. you have titanic mountains of steel piling up that is increasingly worth jack shit.
That's evidence of how wasteful capitalism is. It produces an incredible amount but it does not meet everyone's needs because it is not designed to do, since that would empower the masses and take away the social relationship of worker to capitalist.
>now maybe you can make some arguemtns against the more paracitic elements of our society like finances and such who basically play with the idea of capital to funnel value towards themselves, but these people do not make up the entirety of our social structure nor are they as important as Marxists make them out to be.
Finance capital is pretty loathsome, but no more than industrial capitalists. They certainly are important, given how much power they hold. 8 people have the same wealth as 3.5 billion workers.
>man who wants to start a business of his own borrows money from such a place and uses that to create something, adding to the society as a whole. in this way they act as patrons which have historically funded every great work society has birthed.
there's no need for that though. it's a question of labour and resources, capital only matters because in the capitalist epoch, capital is prized above all else.
>leaving us all to wallow in the mud
We wouldn't wallow in mud (well maybe the rotting royal corpses might). For the first time, the toiling masses would no longer have to sell themselves daily just to survive. Imagine what could be built.

honestly im unsatisfied with my answer but i didn't want to dedicate any more time to it

>>73484858

how did he link with the arrows facing the wrong way wtf

>>73484910
You need the social/cultural system for this to function well. Notably, you need people in a given society to feel sufficiently connected to one another, and to feel guilt for not contributing positively to society.

For example, if you had this as a global policy, billions of people would likely feel little guilt over exploiting the fruits of others' labours in completely different countries. Whereas, if this policy was enacted in a small, close, 500-person village, it would probably work well.

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>>73484861
the one where communists are fighting all around the world while the master race sucks off trump online? alright

؜>>73484977
Just stop

>>73484977
the utf-8 right to left character

Business ideia: Sponsor numerous coup d`etat in the 3rd world or support guerrillas to sell weapons and support a massive torture operation just to show how commies are bad

who is this commie idealist paki writing literal novels at 4.40am on a chinese cartoon forum. absolute state

look at any rule free Minecraft or Rust server and you will see what an "unbound" society can create

an ugly landmass of tiny mud and wood hovels with terrified armed peasants hiding inside hoping the roving bandits clad in diamond armour don't kill them for a laugh.

>>73484987
I mean the one where communists are basically SJW tier and a joke to everyone else.
https://youtu.be/zHqMSot9RcA

Fascism is the application of aesthetic theories onto the political and social sphere combined with the idea that reality is fluid and tied to metaphysics, meaning that presentation and ritual can have real observable impacts on reality.

really its very heart is Platonism mixed with Catholic ideas of purity and Eastern esotericism (especially Muslim and Hindu).

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>>73485004

Lads, just got back from a stag weekend in Thailand, pretty sure I met 'Thailad' there. He's a total madman 2bh, the locals call him

'เฒ่าหัวงู สีขาว คนเดียวที่ พูดถึง ตัวเอง'

Not really sure what it means, but it seemed they almost used it as a warning to others when he was around. I saw him in a small villiage in Phuket, he was handing out flyers to the bemused locals, advertising his FAQ about himself, but I got the idea they already knew all too well who he was, It seemed like this was not the first time he had promoted himself to people who did not know who he was or give half a shit about him.

The adults of the village seemed much more concerned with locking their children indoors, while he pranced around throwing leafleats in their face, shouting "THE CHILDREN MUST KNOW WHO I AM" in the campest voice you could possibly imagine. He was utterly oblivious to how scared and confused locals were around him, I think he's convinced they all like him.

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>>73485040
been ages since I've seen this

>>73484896
>What makes tourism "petty"? it is revenue. how is revenue "worthless". The tourism it generates us actually puts London in the top most visited cities in the world.
It's parasitic. It's just passing around fiat money. Tourists turn up, look and go home. London produces nothing of actual value. It's just financial transfers and speculation. I'd rather have actual productive labour going on in London, rather than banks and nobles having a jolly old time.
>Their privilege is earned by their existence
Nah, it's based on a system of exploitation going back 1000 years.
>Can't handle responsibility of living up to the publics expectations under constant scrutiny
If the public were serious about it we'd have overthrown them centuries ago. Defectors are just lazy brats.
>Would be willing to bet every member of the royal family has probably done more work in any given year of their adulthood than you have in your entire fifteen years of existence.
Parading around the former empire isn't work.

>>73485040
ah yes the white pedophile who speaks for himself

>>73485008
>rightists think society is a video game
fascinating how i see this so much ("humans and orks")
real life isn't a medieval fantasy, sorry
>>73485004
>idealist
communism is materialist, not idealist
rorke

>>73485040
someone pls translate
im scared of what might happen if i so much as highlight it

@079, 054,962, 916, 831, etc.

http://sketchtoy.com/67785740

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>73485019
>milo getting bullied into hiding
wtf i love antifa now

>>73485128
reported you to the janny

>>73485128
What`s happening?

>>73485099
It's basically nonsense and thai doesn't use spaces like this.

I think what he was going for is "White pedophile who only talks about himself"

>>73484987
reminds me of jihadists

in fact the similarities between the two are striking now that i think on it

-have holy book(s) that proclaim to be a path to a perfect state of living
-believe their ideology justifies their violence
-the entire world needs to live under their system and until it does there will be suffering
-no middle ground
-refusal to consider other viewpoints

honestly could write a book on the similarities but there's a few

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>>73484962
waste is subjective, what the slave sees as waste the master sees as surplus to be saved and enjoyed.
peoples needs can never be fully met, the hierarchy of needs becomes every more complex as lower orders are met. you can feed everyone and give them a one room commiebloc apartment to live in, but what then, do you imagine them content in that case?
as it is the surpluses of capitalism already manage to provide for such people and ensure they need not starve.

why do those 3.5 billion workers deserve said wealth, just because it exists in someone else's hands why do they have a right to it? again nothing but the slave mentality of you tarantulas.
Capital doesn't matter, but neither does labour or resources ultimately, none have value without the others, and ultimately all derive value from ideas or the "geist".
Capital is prised because its an easy way for people to monitor and understand value systems and trade balances, its just a stand in and nothing else. you get rid of money and some sort of symbol will still exist to replace it.

>Imagine what could be built.
nothing of any real significance most likely
the "oppressed" have nothing of value to say or create, its sad but true.
their utterly stunted existences and limitations prevent anything worthwhile from ever being created by the overwhelming majority of them

now go to bed lad and stop with the Redditquotes meme

>>73485127
are jez

>>73485054
>People enjoy doing things I might not enjoy
>Therefore it is worthless and any revenue it generates is somehow not actually revenue because morals?
>Muh exploitation. pay reperations. gibs me that. i want i want poor me im the victim for things that happened 100's of years before i was a sperm
>Work is what I say work is
>Rampantly discussing my ill warranted hatred of the monarchy on the internet at 4.30am.. That's real work

honestly. the state of you.

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>>73485132
>we hate fascists
>don't talk about things we don't like or we'll use violence

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>>73485141
communists fight and kill them though

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>>73485079
>communism is materialist
>doesn't work in the material world

https://youtu.be/DEsqGOHo0nI#t=48

>>73484916

> Some people are content with shitposting on 4chan until the early hours of the morning but for everyone else, why wouldn't they dedicate some time to solving this problem?

Because humans are inherently selfish.

> So they'd be free to charge exuberant prices well beyond what it costs to manufacture(which they do currently for other drugs), pricing out many at a detriment to society.

This is also why for truly valuable inventions the government often intervenes, subsidizing the cost of the product for people that require it but can not afford it. Paracetamol & aspirin will still be available for those who can still not afford it.

> After which a huge chunk of their sector has disappeared as now everyone's immune.

The company who invented the cure would reap the benefits of their invention for however long the patent lasts, once that time is up they will have to compete with other companies. Once most people are cured they will have made billions more than their competitors which they can use to develop other medication, which gives them more of a competitive advantage.

Do you really think a pharmaceutical company will allow some other pharmaceutical company to have that competitive advantage over them?

> The entire population of the world would benefit from curing the common cold, there absolutely would be the effort. People would be free to collaborate with each to speed up the process, unhindered by war/different countries/lack of access to education

Why would they invest in a cure for the common cold which kills almost nobody rather than something of more use?

>>73485182
cute, but you know that is not what materialism in the context of philosophy means

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>>73485170
yes the liberal alternative of "now hang on lets hear them out" which has resulted in Trump being the president is a much better alternative

>>73485173
so?

just because they're very similar doesn't mean they have to be friends

HAHAHAHAHA

>>73485141
They're both following tried and tested dogmatic brainwashing formulae
>>73485205
Ironically it's probably identity politics that pushed so many towards trump. People are sick of it.

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>>73485200
Materialism is wrong anyway

>>73485205

Ahh yes, because allowing people to share their differing political views is why Trump became president. Couldn't possibly be that the opposition was terrible.

>>73485205
Trump is just a generic Yank Conservative
if he was a legit Fascist I imagine /pol/ would be happier.

؜>>73483538
How is it going in your side of the pond, lads? Anything new regarding brexit?

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>>73485143
>waste is subjective, what the slave sees as waste the master sees as surplus to be saved and enjoyed.
that's why slaves killing masters is good
>peoples needs can never be fully met, the hierarchy of needs becomes every more complex as lower orders are met. you can feed everyone and give them a one room commiebloc apartment to live in, but what then, do you imagine them content in that case?
No, but as socialist society develops, those needs can be met.
>why do those 3.5 billion workers deserve said wealth, just because it exists in someone else's hands why do they have a right to it? again nothing but the slave mentality of you tarantulas.
Because it's theirs. Individual appropriation of labour is what gave rise to the insane and grotesque inequalities and ills in the capitalist modern world. They made that wealth through their labour. They should decide how the products of their labour are used.
>their utterly stunted existences and limitations prevent anything worthwhile from ever being created by the overwhelming majority of them
Who defines what is worthwhile? You? The bitter capitalist?