African Americans

>>73457773
the descendants of slaves aren't really African anymore
they've been isolated in the Americas for so long that they are their own new people

>>73460353
This, pretty much.

Sames goes for whites who claim European culture despite the fact having nothing to do with Europe besides descendency.

>>73460353
>>73460403
White people love the term African-American, because it is underhandedly patronizing, as if we are not fully American. It is meant to undermine out birthright, which they are jealous of. I wish we could start a petition to have them change it on the new DC museum.

>>73457773
>Why do people get mad when they claim African culture?
Two things:
1. Egyptians weren't "black" in the same way African-Americans were. They were caucasian but darker than Europeans, much like the inhabitants of Egypt today. They didn't just disappear, you know?
2. Even if African-Americans claimed actual African cultures (like Mali, Songhai or Ethiopia), they'd simply be the black equivalent of plastic paddies. Except worse, because at least plastic paddies claim to be Irish, and some other Americans take pride in "being" French or German or English or Polish. Even in the dull minds of African-Americans, Africa is just one big country.

>>73457773
maybe because they are useless subhumans

because i dont have karling royal heritage even though i am european.

slaves were sub saharan africans, and even then they were sold by the local populace so they werent high pedigree even by loincloth standards.

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>>73461322
Says the G*rman of all people

>>73461359
I am a Greek

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>>73461298
Then why not use a more accurate descriptor than African-American.

Many Egyptians were and still are black, though they are not closely related to American blacks.

>>73457773
They are African.

>>73461571
No, they are American.

>>73460353
No such thing.

>>73461600
No such thing as American only in minds of propagandists, I am Spaniard, I have no desire to cohabitatw with anyone else.

>>73461603
They are a result of new world ehnogenesis, along with mestizos.

>>73457773
>African """continent"""
Africa should be at least 2 separate continents.

It's like saying Middle Eastern people can claim all Asian culture (ie. Indian culture or East Asian culture).

>>73461918
You're confusing regions with continents

>>73461894
No such thing.

>>73461646
You have dual culture and loyalty. Then you are not a true "American". True Americans do exist, they are ethnic groups that are a result of new world ethnogenesis.

>>73461966
North Africa is as separated from ssa as ssa is seperated from USA.

>>73461966
No I'm not because you could argue the same with Asian-americans.

>>73461986
No such thing as American, you are a propagandists.

>>73461984
There is

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnogenesis

>>73462019
North Africa is still on the same landmass as SSA is. It's just separated by the Sahara desert, a natural barrier, forming a different region.

>>73462032
What does that have to do with the difference between continents and geological regions? Asian-Americans are people of recent Asian descent in the Americas via immigration.
>>73462032

>>73462053
Yes there is. You're just not an American. Why does it bother you so much that there are people that are exclusively American?

>>73461986
I am a racial Spaniard, this is my nation, I am subject to the US state, understand stupid nigger?
You have nothing to do with white subjects of a state.

>>73462054
No such thing. >>73462121
North Africa is seperated by the same seperation as an ocean you can't go there without advanced technology.

>>73462123
Because you are a retarded nigger trying to tie yourself to the white race, there is white nation and there is political entity of USA there is no American identity.

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>>73462019
There is a place called the Sahel, a transition zone, where black mixes with Arab.

>>73462211
No, you're an Amerindian nigger.

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>>73462233
>oh hey look im a spaniard too small world eh? :^)

>>73462121
Are you baiting me ?
So imagine if it were Asians from the far east that were enslaved instead. You're telling me you would have no problem with their descendants claiming Indian, Persian or Levant (or anywhere else in Asia) culture/history ?

>>73462215
No such thing, there is where arabs conquered savages to have a trading post for more slaves and goods, this was done in recent history not ancient, there were no nappings of the Sahara, it is as large as the continental USA.

>>73462269
No you're not, you're an Anglo.

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>>73462126
I'm part of a uniquely American ethnic group. My people have been here for hundreds of years and underwent ethnogenesis. I have no other home, but America, culturally and ethnically while, you are still a spaniard. Just a spaniard living in America.

>>73462215
hint: the green zone on top of the Sahel is an unpopulated desert and it is unpopulated all the way to the meditterranean costs.

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>>73462215
There is no connection between North Africa and sub sahara, 0 records of any Bantu language in North Africa.

>>73462312
Wrong im an anglo french spanish slavic german potato snow nigger you cant refure this.

>>73462161
Are boats and camels considered advanced technology?

>>73462412
*refute

>>73461540
>Then why not use a more accurate descriptor than African-American.
You mean like American? Remember Roosevelt's words: the hyphenated American is the biggest threat to national security.

>>73461918
Go back to Africa.

>>73462201
I'm not trying to tie myself in with white people, though 30% euro admixture is part of my ethnic make up. I'm part of a group of people that are a literal product of American history.

>>73462161
See >>73462215
The Sahara isn't an ocean, you fucking nigger. You can cross it on foot with no technology (in theory, although in reality you would need water and food supplies to cross it). In order to cross any landmass, you need a fucking boat, not to mention that geologically, they occupy the same continent in different regions. For fucks sake, stop making us look bad. This is literal common sense.

>>73462432
Yes.

>>73462272
False equivalency

There is cultural overlap in the parts of Africa we are referring to. Over a third of Africans brought to the Americas were practicing Muslims.

>>73462412
You are predominately northwestern European not Spaniard.

>>73462517
Yes small admixture, you are African.

>>73462597
No you can't cross the Sahara by walking.

>>73462285
Yet is is still connected part of the African continent unlike the continental US

>>73462365
That doesn't mean it wasn't used by trading caravans at one point

>>73462372
>Migrating TOWARDS an extremely hostile desert

Please take your autism somewhere else

>>73462285
Over a third of Africans brought to the US were practicing Muslims. The whole reason they were enslaved in the first place is because they were on the losing side of the Fulani jihads.

>>73462649
Whatever you say brother :^)

>>73462624
>False equivalency
No.

>cultural overlap in the parts of Africa we are referring to
Explain the "cultural overlap". Protip : the muslim world isn't and wasn't a cultural continuity.

>Over a third of Africans brought to the Americas were practicing Muslims
A third isn't the majority also citations needed.

>>73462687
I said in theory you fucking sperg. I know that in reality, you'd have to have a caravan or at the very least a camel and water to cross the Sahara

>>73462714
Yes Arabs and North Africans colonized Africa bringing alphabets in Arabic and such.

>>73457773
Only the SJW type black people do that.
My black friend doesn't even like to be called African American.
He said, "I'm not from Africa, never been there, don't want to go there, don't know shit about it"

>>73462754
By theory or not you as an individual can't cross the Sahara by walking.

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>>73462365
What is Mauritania?

>>73462807
Because he has been. brainwashed by kikes to hate his identity for a two pronged attack against his identity and on whites.

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>>73462372
>what is Mauritania, Senegal, Mali etc.

>>73462814
Right next to Nigeria not in the Sahara.

>>73462865
Why can't he think of himself just as an American like most other people do?

I don't call myself a half-Irish-half-Spanish-American.

>>73462910>>73462968

Right on sub Sahara Africa.

>>73462754
In theory you can cross the ocean by swimming.

>>73462713
>That doesn't mean it wasn't used by trading caravans at one point
Now I never denied this. It's just that it's overblown. You can't say it was the same culture across North Africa and Western Africa, only really minor influences.

>>73462814
Mauritania is 95% desert.

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>>73462597
>what is a coastline?
>what is the Nile?

>>73462968
American isn't an identity it is a political entity that changed borders in various times.

>>73463007
The coastline is desert.

>>73462687
Part African, part europan. All-American.

>>73463020
Africans in USA are African diaspora, Europeans in USA are European diaspora.

>>73461540
Case in point Sadat is from a Nubian family.

>>73463068
No such thing as American.

>>73462723
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_States

>>73462991
>In theory you can cross the ocean by swimming.

You'll get physically exhausted before you get a few miles off the coast. Meanwhile, at there's the remote possibility in the desert to find an oasis.

>>73462991
> You can't say it was the same culture across North Africa and Western Africa
That's the fucking point you git. The Sahara Desert forms a natural cultural barrier between North Africa and the rest of Africa for the most part due to the REALLY extreme climate there.

>>73463068
Are you predominately African?
If so you are just African

>>73463153
Nice revisionist history

>>73463200
The Sahara seperates the two continents, North Africa is not connected to ssa in any way.

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>>73463200
>That's the fucking point you git. The Sahara Desert forms a natural cultural barrier between North Africa and the rest of Africa for the most part due to the REALLY extreme climate there.
Wut, I'm the one arguing this against OP since the beginning of the thread.

>>73463219
There is no such thing as American people, there is political entity of USA same as there is political entity of city or town, nation is your race not a political entity.

>>73462807
I started this thread to prove a point. "African-American" is said to underhandedly undermine ethnic Americans birthright, and is done out of deep seated jealousy.

Slaves were managed by west african kingdoms with limited capabilities.
So they enslaved only each other or the most primitive congotribes they could find. Eastern africans have as much to do with them as the average white american with finno ugric komis.

>>73463201
What the fuck no, he is some mixed newworlder isolated in a new culture
Ethnogenesis, read up on it.

>>73463253
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent#Definitions_and_application
>By convention, "continents are understood to be large, continuous, discrete masses of land, ideally separated by expanses of water."[2] Many of the seven most commonly recognized continents identified by convention are not discrete landmasses separated completely by water. The criterion "large" leads to arbitrary classification: Greenland, with a surface area of 2,166,086 square kilometres (836,330 sq mi) is considered the world's largest island, while Australia, at 7,617,930 square kilometres (2,941,300 sq mi) is deemed the smallest continent.

>>73463324
There is no such thing as ethnic American.

>>73463308
American is my nation

>>73463340
No he's not. >>73463353
There is no continuum between North Africa and ssa. >>73463394

>>73463020
American is an identity. You're just not American.

>>73463324
I thought it was just a more pc term for Negro when you needed to identify someone by their race the same way whites are labeled caucasian. Though I don't know much about the US and it's history regarding race relations, I just know shit's fucked now.

>>73463394
American is not a nation, race is a nation and the USA used to be a state of the white race now it is not a nation but simply an arbituary political entity, you have no commonality in any way with any "American" person.

>>73463324
I thought it was because "black" is deemed offensive or too plain. Do the people that use it call themselves euro-american?

>>73463066
The boat, you can sail up and down the coast.

>>73463424
American doesn't even exist, you can look at a person and see American, it is a paper that can be changed ovrernight.

>>73463464
There is no harbor.

>>73463110
There are uniquely American ethnic groups cursed by ethnogenesis. You wouldn't call mestizos European would you?

>>73463458
Are you the autistic chicano RPer?

>>73463137
But he is no less Egyptian. Nubians are an Egyptian ethnic group.

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>>73463503
>>73463458
>>73463369
>you will never burn these kind of ethnocentrist collective cancer on a stake and make AMERICA great again

>>73463458
I am american

>>73463153
You have to go back.

>>73463546
There is nothing unique in any negro simply race mixed, if I fucked a Nigerian they would be mulattos like you, race mixed people go with non white because I am intollerant of race mixing.

>>73463458
>of the white race
Didnt the tea party wear indian featherstuff as a mean of distinction by taking the amerindians into the boat?

>>73463503
You guys have an own accent and an own media and political culture that makes you distinct if you live there long enough. Oldworlders call you americans because they see you as an own kind of people.

>>73463605
Arent Nubians Kushitic albeit influenced by ancient egypt?

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>>73457773

>>73463623
You will never burn logic common sense and true nation?
Yes

For 200 years my family has been american, therefore my nation is american

>>73463721
Completely arbituary, your nation is your race not place of residence.

>>73463721
You are african diaspora just like Jews were diaspora in Europe.

>>73463747
I love how you try to twist the spic border hopper logic to look like it's supposed to be something actual white people think.

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>>73463253
Except physically connected. Go tell the Berbers, haritins, and Tuaregs, they live in a void.

>>73463790
I am>>73462269

>>73463810
North Africans hate negroes who seek to undermine their identity.

>>73463840
You are all enemies of the nation, I don't care.

>>73463902
My nation is american

>>73463308
For whatever reason it pains you, but there are American peoples.

>>73463972
American isn't a nation it is a paper my nation is my race.

>>73463978
There is no such thing as an American person.

>>73463369
Go back to your country.

>>73464085
There is no such thing as country.

>>73464002
American is my nation

>>73463681
Nation=/=ethnic group albeit a defining ethnic group is needed for a nation.
Germany before ww1 was a nation with germans as the titular ethnic group holding everything together and providing the legitimisation and identity of the state. Still frisians and sorbs were considered to be a part of the german nation as they were neither ejected by the titulary ethnic group(which considered itself to be divided into 5 subtribes back then) nor did they followed serious seperatist tendencys as they always lifed in symbiosis with the majority.

Shits complicated.
If you can become american by embracing certain values and a culture to the point that you would seem alien to your blood relatives in the oldworld an accultaration happened that by majority consensus made "american people" a thing even though there are racial/tribal subcategorys which are so loosely defined that they allow you to absorb people easier.

>>73463810
Berber looking pale tuaregs see the darker and mixed ones as below them btw as they consider them to be descendants of slaves unworthy of tuareg identity.

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>>73463403
What African country would this "African-American" go to and fit in?

>>73464188
What is "nation" to you?
You are an individual, now what the hell do you have to do with us state more than you have to do with any other state, thee is no such thing as American nation or American identity other than propaganda spilled to stupid people, I have nothing to do with you and I have the same paper as you.

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>>73464264
Puerto Rico, of course

>>73464264
Take a DNA test bro and see the closest population to you.

>>73464264
Anywhere in west Africa you would be accepted, Ghana accepts African diaspora.

>>73463432
The original term was Griffe. That's what it should go back to. Race relations in America really plummeted when we got a whole bunch of European immigrants, who sought to nudge out the people who have been in the US from the start, and are ethnically tied to its history.

>>73464238
Nation = people as in blood.

>>73463308
Americans most definitely are a nation. and as for "nation being your race", just take a look at the old world and tell us that when even closely related ethnic groups can't get along that well. for all the racial strife, the USA is still a bit of a model in that regard these days

>>73463810
arguably humans form a cline but most of the length of that cline is made up of populations inhabiting border zones like East Africa and Central Asia/Siberia while the vast majority of the population falls in endpoints. so you're right overall but I think this is still a bit misleading

>>73464483
No, nation = race, usa is an arbituary political entity that could be crafted differently overnight, blood is not arbituary.

>>73463458
The US has several different uniquely American ethnic groups, just like any other country has ethnic groups unique to that country, with history within that country.

>>73464566
all polities, nations and ethnic groups are ultimately "arbitrary" and nations don't correspond to "races". for example, some Germans are closer to some non-Germans than other Germans by "blood" and that goes for pretty much every non-inbred nation that has spanned a decent area

>>73464617
There no "American" anything, it's just a political entity, it has no true value, race mixed people are not anything unique.

>>73463463
Black just isn't very specific. Black is umbrella term that encompasses a lot of different ethnicities, new world and old. Griffe was the original term for Americanized blacks, before all the Jewy bullshit took hold.

>>73464728
There is nothing arbituary about blood nations.

>>73463538
How did the Portuguese get around the Sahara?

>>73464736
No such thing as "Americanized" no such thing as American either, you can think whatever you want I would not want you in any of the land claimed by whites which is all of the USA.

>>73464736
in that case we should also use cumskins or snowniggers for american whites

>>73464774
there's no such thing as a "blood nation" unless you're talking about some very isolated populations. even relatively isolated areas like say Finland have members of the nation that are closer to neighbors than other members

>>73464791
Advanced technology that Africans never had.

>>73464323
I have family all over the u.s. and they founded new england, the great lakes and the northwestern states. My nation built this country. I am the most american here

>>73464842
That means nothing, nations are blo

>>73463650
They are all nile based semetic type people. They have always made up the bulk of egypt's working class, as well as other Nile countries.

>>73464842
He is right that blood plays a role, but some diffusion and the subgroups that are always there get bound together also by language and a common national myth that cancels out genetic similarities to the "other".

>>73464893
No such thing as American, only White nation and non whites in white land.

>>73464842
There is only blood nation you are a nation, as in the population group that makes up your ancestry, this is the true definition.

>>73464960
blood plays a role since you're obviously going to connect to neighboring populations, not ones on the other side of the world and unless they're recent arrivals from elsewhere, they're gonna be very related to you. even with recent arrivals, mixing inevitably happens unless the two populations are very distinct (see white and black americans) or even have laws against that sort of thing (see USA). of course a biological substrate will exist

but ultimately you can't call any not completely nation a "race" per se in that way you could call Eurasians vs Sub-Saharan Africans "races"

>>73464969
Only thing I am is white, I have nothing in common with someone else because of them being born somewhere around me or that a government gave them a paper.

>>73464938
>semitic
Nah.
Nubians are nilo saharic and the northern egyptians are afro-asiatic speakers.
Some semitic admixture is there but does not connect them as much as that they consider themselves exactly the same people-if that were the case they would have mixed up long ago already. They share the same national identity tho as they sticked long enough together it seems.

>>73465091
Yeah, I guess we agree but simply talked above each others heads for a moment

>>73463851
The line between black and Arab is blurry in that part of the world, though ther is racism. Somebody who might be considered Arab over there might be considered black over here and vice versa.

>>73464047
Go back to your country.

>>73465153
I found your comment to be basically an emphasis of my point, to be honest. it's really damn weird to see an American of all people argue that nations are "races"

>>73465182
Not really.

>>73457773
it would be like finns bragging about rome.

nonsense

>>73465268
Nations are races, I am an individual and I am white nation.

>>73465182
because those are ultimately social categories that are informed by non-biological factors as well and don't correspond 1:1 to genetics of course

>>73463851
>Race relations in America really plummeted when we got a whole bunch of European immigrants
Race relations plummeted when people decided it was politically expedient to use their race as a tool to gain political power (for both whites and non-whites)

>>73464238
There is racism in that part of the world as there is anywhere. I was just making the point that they're not completely isolated from each other. It would be somewhat similar to how white looking mulattos look down on dark blacks here in the states.

>>73465353
You're and amerishart subhuman like me and have nothing in common with europe anymore

>>73465317
I mean Rome is distant enough that it's weird to brag about it anyway but if in a couple of hundred years we somehow ended up with a European nation, it wouldn't seem that weird huh?

>>73465409
Retard.

>>73464376
None, because none of them are part Anglo. In Nigeria I would stick out like a sore thumb.

>>73465490
No you wouldn't.

>>73465474
Nice rebuttal amerilard

>>73465431
it would still be weird.

>>73464428
>and fit in?
One look at me, and they would know I'm not actually Nigerian. Find one picture of a Nigerian that is my complexion. For the millionth time I am ethnically American. I understand that you dislike that because it reminds you of your rootlessness, it reminds you that you are not truly an American.

>>73464479
It does if the nation's development created you.

>>73465094
I

>>73465575

You have us to prevent whenever someone tries to make a sucessful rome, dont worry.

>>73464874
The point is the Sahara is a psuedo-barrier, like the Rocky Mountains.

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>>73464969
The only problem with that is blacks have fought and died in every American war, the first American martyr was black, and they even built the Capitol.

>>73465907
it isn't exactly a pseudo-barrier. if it were a pseudo-barrier, North Africa and even Eurasia would look a lot different

>>73465035
Then why don't you go back to your country?

>>73465353
Go save your Afrikaaner countrymen then.

>>73465381
True

>>73466147
People cross it everyday. You should know that.

>>73466374
yes and it's obvious by the genetics of North Africa too but it can't support substantial populations that connect the two areas. it's the same with Central Asia and Siberia and part of the reason why East and West Eurasians are overall distinct

>>73466516
The distances involved between Europe and the far east are way more expansive. Japan does not border the caucuses

>>73466645
then what does that tell us when North Africans are genetically basically as far apart from sub-Saharan Africans as East and West Eurasians are?

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>>73466992
No they're not they overlap in the Sahel.

>>73467525
you keep pointing to what are basically exceptions to the overall situation. anyway

>>73461235
Such talks will inevitably lead to someone feeling the need to coin another synonym for people of your race again. It's tiring. Just use "black", and get all the connotations and emotions out of it, neuter the word, make it devoid of unnecessary emotions. Why you Anglos feel such a compulsive need to manufacture words like "African-Americans" or grossly incorrect labels like "Caucasians" is beyond me. It's black, white and asian. Nothing insulting in this.

>>73467600
For whatever reasons people like to oversimplify racial nuances to fit a certain narrative. The reality is very few people are 100% anything in today's world.

>>73467857
no one said that "purity" exists, just that large genetic distances exist that show the Sahara to really be a major barrier

>>73461235
This is why the terms Black American and White American are superior.
Both are custom heritages that are uniquely American now.

>>73463324
>jealousy.
Of what lmao

>>73467915
From the tip of Tunisia to the dark heart of the Congo, yeah there is going to be a dramatic difference, but the space in between exists on a spectrum. Your are using the polar ends to define the whole.

>>73467525
So are we talking about culture or genetics or both ?

>>73461235
Thats because default American is white

>>73467985
You tell me. Clearly it bothers outsiders that black people are more thoroughly intertwined with the fabric of America than most.

>>73468057
I answered that here >>73464483

you're using border regions that account for much of those clines to define the whole too, in that sense. plus the existence of major barriers doesn't mean there's impenetrability either

>>73468145
It depends who you ask. They're not the default. When you listen to rap you call it American music.

>>73468278
nah everybody calls that black music

>>73468307
I thought Brazil was a Black Country?

>>73468057
>From the tip of Tunisia to the dark heart of the Congo, yeah there is going to be a dramatic difference
Well if you admit this then I think it was what the OP of this thread didn't understand.

>>73468368
yeah and its fucking garbage

>>73468375
I'm the OP, and I did understand. I was just trying to make a point. Point being why such a vague and inaccurate descriptor would be used for a very specific American ethnic group.

>>73468139
Both

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Can't I just be a black guy that's American? That too much to ask.

hi

i think i saw someone i know

>>73468908
No you must have a very specific label and be put on a pedestal

>>73468491
it isn't inaccurate, they're clearly mostly a subset of Africans after all. you can argue it's vague but we understand which specific group it refers to so no one, except some race baiters care

>>73468908
Yes, you're not "really" American. You are African, so we have to throw in a qualifier to let you know that. Never mind that your people both white and black have been here for hundreds of years. You're straight congoid African that just happens to live in America at the moment.

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>>73468908
>>73468908
Blacks make good music and are always innovative taking risks when need may rise plus i like your defiant will

I love Blacks
we all niggers at the end of the day

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>>73469202
African is not specific though.
Pic related is an African. But if an American says that's his people, people will accuse him of KANGZing. Why not just use an accurate and simple term.

>>73469343
I understand your point but I still find your objections weird and basically about semantics

>>73469423
It's not wierd. What do if Nords moved down to Greece, and started telling people to refer to you as African-Greek, why not just get it right once and for all.

>>73468491
Oh well, it's true that they descended from African slaves because they were brought over from specific parts of the continent of Africa.
As for why they are referred to with the overly broad term of "African american" (when a North African would be labelled as "Arab", "Middle Eastern" or even "Caucasian") I don't really know and it's only an American thing. I mean, isn't "black people" enough ?

>>73469423
Semantics play a huge role in ID politics, and unfortunately ID politics matter.

>>73469531
I thought African-American was the preferred term among err African-Americans too though. if they collectively preferred a different term, a lot of us would oblige

your comparison makes no sense either. American blacks do feel that they have an ultimate connection to West Africa even if they don't know their specific roots, don't they?

>>73469565
They descend from Africans and Anglos. They represent a unique new world ethnic group.

Black is an umbrella term that is not at all specific. When you say black do you mean someone from DC or Somali?

>>73469624
First off, blacks never agreed to the term, and hate it. Some Jews funded a couple of black preachers and told the world they speak for us, and created the term.

Secondly black Americans don't feel anymore of a connection to west Africa than they do to Great Britain. They are a uniquely American product, a fusion of cultures and genetics, and thus are simply Americans, they could not know any other home.

>>73469926
>Secondly black Americans don't feel anymore of a connection to west Africa than they do to Great Britain

highly doubt that for the ones who do care about those things at least. your last sentence is true obviously

>>73469734
Well African-american is sure as hell even less specific.

>>73462053
Kill yourself. European dicklickers like you(only speaking English) have always been the biggest threat

>>73470745
I'm not advocating for African-American either. Our original descriptor was Griffe, and that was the best for a lot of reasons.

>>73471169
You are African, that's it I am European, if you're race mixed youre still African.

>>73472569
No such thing as American people, only United States political entity which is not a people.

>>73472617
If you choose something then it is arbituary, race is the only identity.

>>73470734
We speak English.

>>73472569
African is not a race smart guy, neither is European.

>>73472732
I never chose to be an American.

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>>73471169
>I'm not advocating for African-American either. Our original descriptor was Griffe, and that was the best for a lot of reasons.

Please don't listen to this autist he posts shit like this on /his/ so many times.

Griffe was never a term used for African Americans. It was used to describe slaves of 1/4 white ancestry. Why you would want to attach yourself to that term especially when "Griffes" were treated no better then any other Blacks and slave material to sell/buy nonetheless.

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>>73472960
Better yet why is he not advocating "accurate" terms for every other people. Why would you want to use blood quantum rules to identify yourself?

>>73469315
>Blacks make good music
rarely

>>73472960
Black Americans by definition have euro admixture. So I don't see the problem. It is an ethnically accurate reflection.

>>73473281
Griffe is not beholden to a strict definition it just means black, with some level of euro admixture, thus black American.

>>73473336
And one word to boot.

>>73472895
Yes you choose to be "American".

>>73473418
No one gives a shit about your 35% euro or your race mixed shit you're niggers.

>>73474191
Tell me when I chose to be an American?

>>73474238
Why does this upset some people so much. I must really be on to something.

>>73464428
I dated a girl, both of whose parents immigrated to the US from Nigeria, who then lived in Nigeria for a time and was not accepted by her peers in school because she was deemed "American". If you think African Americans centuries removed from their countries of origin will be accepted in Africa as Africans your deluding yourself.

>>73465664
>I am ethnically American

That doesn't exist at all though lol.

>>73473418
It never meant Black at all autist.

>>73469565
>I mean, isn't "black people" enough ?

Because Black immigrasts existed in America. Also Black is a term for ALL Blacks from Africa. African-American is more specific.

>>73475075
Yes it does. Outside of America there is no large cohort of people like me genetically or culturally

>>73475156
>more specific
>you realize Africa is an entire continent right?

>>73475279
Genetically there's a fuck ton of Euro/Black mixed groups, culturally lots of the Caribbean.

>>73475340
You arguing autistic semantics at this point. AA means that they are an American population descended from Black slaves from Western African mostly alongside other parts of it such as Madagascar, Central Africa, and sometimes Eastern Africa.

>>73475544
Also Afro-Americans can be used as well and that rolls off the tongue well.

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>>73475544
By American I mean Americas. New world shit.

Why not just use a correct term. Why is that so difficult.

>>73475654
It's still hyphenated American and that is problematic. White people don't call themselves European-American.

>>73475731
Because they are the default and there's no denying it.

>>73475684
Liberian's exist anon. Also genetically lots of Euro/Black mixes in the old world.

Griffe doesn't even make sense

>>73476294
It depends who you are talking to and the context. When Jamaicans say Americans they mean black Americans. They refer to white Americans as white people.

>>73476294
But this is this the new world. How does Griffe not make sense? And why do you care so much?

>>73473295
Depends on the genre. Hip-hop and rap will always be shit, but there is a wealth of enjoyable jazz albums like Coltrane and Davis. Also Micheal Jackson.