Civil Liberty ranking 2016

>>73443940
tf is this shit

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>>73443940
Where is land of free?

Reminder that your governments can take it all away from you at any time

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>>73443968
>t. land of the fee, home of the slave

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>>73443964
I forgot about you america, just had to hold my nose and delve a little further down
ahhh there you are just underneath El Salvador

>>73443990
dont pay taxes, i live off grid :^)

>>73443997
Americans LITERALLY LESS FREE THAN POO IN LOO

>>73443968

>the scene is an alabama trailerpark
>a 300kg man lies in a sea of his own filth inside the tiny sardine tin
>pizza boxes, chicken bones, rags on sticks, a bin stands in the middle of the room stained with a suspcious brown substance
>clouds of flies circle like vultures
>the room is lit with the harsh glare of a computer monitor
>outside you can hear shouting, gunshots
>cletus loving stroked his plastic glock, secure in the knowledge that this will protect him from Obama trying to take away his property

>>73444079
Nope, washington state

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>>73443940
>freedom of mass murder

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if you dont have the freedom to go $300k in debt for being shot, what freedom do you have?

Hello my freedom loving friends.

Hello my free lovingfriends

Thought I would pop in and say hey to all my freedom living friends. :^)

>>73443940
>USA below Mauritius, India, and fucking Botswana

You aren't even allowed to be racist in Canada lol.

>>73444485
You can be racist in any civilized country, it's only in America that it's ok to advocate genocide.

>>73444469
>India
>super diverse with many cultures and languages
>still very democratic

>Botswana
>in Africa (nuff said) and full of AIDS
>still very democratic

>>73444505
>he lets the government decide what is "ok" to say

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>>73444543
Well our country has a functioning democracy *cough* so in reality it's the people who decide what is "ok", and anyway I'm pretty comfy knowing that I won't be genocided.

>>73444505
Not our fault that mentioning abo IQ is tantamount to advocating genocide.

>>73443940
I think I don't want to be well ranked on an index with those top 6 countries desu. Is this some gay shit?

>>73443940
>Australia
>10.00

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I'm telling you guys, Uruguay and Chile are THE shit.

>>73444615
>the people who decide what is "ok"
That just means the majority dictates to the minorities. That sounds like a lack of civil rights.

I'm pretty comfy knowing I could literally run for public office on a "kill the kiwis" platform.

>>73444687
I mean, I could guess that about Chile because Pinochet = mi general.

What's up with Uruguay and why there over anywhere else in rio de la plata (da prata)?

>>73444697
You do realize the whole point of hate speech laws is to prevent the infringement of other peoples civil liberties.
> I could literally run for public office on a "kill the kiwis"
And then get arrested for hate speech, did you not read anything that I just wrote?

>>73444687
NEGRO ENVIDIOSO CUANTAS COPAS TENÉS

>>73444754
You protect people's civil liberties by restricting civil liberties?

>And then get arrested for hate speech
I meant in my country. There are no hate speech laws in America. We have actual civil liberties.

>>73443940
Reminder that any freedom is an illusion in a statist society

>>73444810
Every right has an equivalent responsibility. You can't just go around saying whatever you want without being held responsible within a civilized space. We are not animals.

>>73443940
This is a bullshit ranking made by pathetic liberal cucks
NZ is a globalist cuckhold that is sucking off the chinks
So the globalists reward us by giving us a 10/10 in globalist dicksucking skills

>>73444754
Lynch yourself
NZ doesn't have hate speech laws
We have restrictions on what we can publish, but we are legally allowed to say whatever opinion we want in public, unlike those pathetic auscucks who aren't allowed to talk shit about mosquitos in public

>>73444876
The right to say whatever you want comes with the responsibility not to say it? That can only be true if you had the right to say it in the first place.

If it is illegal to say then you have neither a right nor a responsibility.

>>73444876
I agree. That's why direct threats, blackmail, and inciting a riot are in fact speech crimes in the USA.

Botswana though

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BOTSWANAAAAAAAA!!!!!

>>73443997
Notbad.jpg

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>>73443940
>mfw Aussies don't have the freedom to shart in mart
>mfw Aussies don't have the freedom to get shot
>mfw Aussies don't have the freedom to pay a tip to the gas station pumping attendant
>mfw Aussies don't have the freedom to microwave their shoes before bombing foreign countries

>>73444996
Americans have no comprehension on what civil liberties are because you've never had them.

>>73445160
Rich coming from a police state

>>73445160
My sides

>>73443940
Where do you even get this meme rankings and why do you never post source or methodology?

Reminder that Canada is the true North, strong and FREE.

>>73445261
This looks like its from wikipedia

>>73445261
http://www.eiu.com/public/topical_report.aspx?campaignid=DemocracyIndex2016

>>73444903
Fucking this
If we are a truly free country, then why can't we own assault rifles (at least not legally), tanks/apcs and cannot legally smoke weed. Also the government unironically spies on us cuz Five Eyes

The only reason why we are so high at all is partially due to economic freedoms (which does not equal personal freedoms by the way) and partially due to the neo-l*beral globalists in A*ckland being cucks as usual

>>73443940
These "statistics" are bias in the sense that they favour neo-liberal globalist cunts than cunts that actually respect personal freedoms

>>73445194
Would you stop being a fucking meme. Every thread. Don't know how they haven't banned you to oblivion

>>73445593
thats a very 9.41/10 civil liberty attitude mate

>>73445501
I absolutely agree
Economic freedom = allowing foreign nations to buy out all your land and houses
So we get globalist goodboy brownie points when we are economically free for China to loot us
I would much prefer to have personal freedoms (weed, looser gun laws, no spying, etc) than economic freedom
If we glassed Auckland we would become a normal country instead of a beacon of cuckholdry that liberals overseas see as an example for their nations to follow

>>73445625
Not talking to you faggot

>>73445762
Typical 9.41 thuggish reaction.. Tsk tsk.

>>73443940
reporting in

having a late dinner with the sound of freedom as soundtrack

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>>73445912
Why is Uruguay the best South American country?

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>>73444833
Muh nigga

>>73443997
Just under Greece, just over Brazil. Not that bad.
The US and S.Korea are just shameful. Still, Poo In Loo is over us aswell, so.
I guess they take into acount that they are free to Poo every where they want. They are over Japan, France and the Czech Republic after all.

>>73445912
enjoy freedom brother

>>73446052
many people here believe it's due to being small

we're technically 10 times poorer than any other country in this continent, we have not a single valuable natural resource, but on a per capita scale we still top all the charts growing cows

being small is a benefit in so many ways

corruption is easily rooted out

don't have massive amount of people living in subhuman conditions

and so on

>>73446149
thank you brother, you too

>>73443940
>Civil Liberty

>New Zealand
Yeah, no. They locked a guy up in New Zealand for having elf porn on his computer because the elves looked underage, which is utterly ridiculous because it is a well known fact that elves age much slower than humans.

>>73446238
Being small is definitely a boon. That's why Canada can basically do as the USA does but enjoy a much more equal and stable society. This is why I don't understand countries like Germany trying to force growth by bloating themselves with 3rd worlders.

>>73446270
Pure unadulterated autism

>>73446275
Being small is great when you're surrounded by powerful nations that provide stability to your region. Being small when you're surrounded by bullies is not particularly great. Imagine Switzerland was called Tibet and located next to China - not so great being small any more. Germany can't afford to be small because Germany is necessary to provide stability to Europe.

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>>73446052
>>73446275

as for the thread topic, about Civil Liberties, it's single-handedly because of this man

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Batlle_y_Ord%C3%B3%C3%B1ez
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Batlle_y_Ord%C3%B3%C3%B1ez

the link in spanish has a lot more info of course, the one in english is pretty poor

that guy literally transformed a shithole into a nation mirroring other "first world" nations of the time

we had a head start of almost 50 years before any other South American nation

already by 1910, he legalized divorce, women's suffrage, abolished the almost slavery conditions of some workers, founded the first 2 state owned banks that would give social security and housing loan programs, all by 1910

and his legacy stands still, and that's probably why his thoughts about freedom are so adamant in our society

>>73446270
This
They only give us a good score because we are economically free, which means we allow foreign countries like China to buy out all our land and houses because we are globalist cucks
We haven't got much personal freedom

What a crock of shit.

We may be more free than other cunts, and have the money to utilise that freedom, but we're still far from actually being free.

Where's my guns?
Where's my gay marriage?
Where's my lol dude weed lmao?

Most importantly, where's my freedom to secede and form my own cunt? I don't think any cunt has that as a right, but it's probably the most important one, because opinions are like arseholes, and I've got a lot to say.

>>73446782
The ranking is probably based on economic freedom, not personal freedom
Economic freedom = allowing foreign nations like china to buy out your land and houses
Personal freedom = weed, guns, gay marriage, no spying, etc

>>73443940
Mentioned

>civil liberties
>be British
>insult some pajeet
>go to jail for "hate speech"
>1 year later
>want to have a nice homemade meal as celebration for coming out of jail
>go buy silverware and kitchenware
>get arrested for illegal possession of knives and spoons
>gets arrested again

>>73447215
If you replace British with Australian, German, Kiwi or even American and this will still make sense

The democracy index is a poll, not a true study of the way government works.
Americans always feel like their rights are being infringed, when we have many more liberties than europeans.

European governments are more involved in the lives of the people, and more restrictive from freedom of speech, etc.

These indexes are European made. They don't' consider thing like right to bear arms, etc.

all they care about is, THEIR perception of freedom.

Americans have greater freedom of speech, among many other liberties. But they aren't counted by europeans.

>>73446872
Aren't these usually called political and social liberties? Like how in contemporary liberal capitalism people are told they are free to be attack helicopters but it's just a hollow distraction from corporations hoarding the wealth.

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>>73443997
> Mfw The American Revolution led to a country worse than Poo in Loo's and Monkeys.

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>>73445149
Don't forget tipping the doctor as well

>>73447247
>Be American
>Have a radio channel insulting nig nogs, and immigrants.
>MUh Freedom of speech
>nothing happens
>go to my local walmart
>buy AR-15, and hunting knife
>go hunt and use my guns in the nature
>park ranger waves at me, nice lad.
>go back to my cabin
>nothing ever happened.
It's good to be an American.

Ok as much as i love to shit on the US there's no way they're under the UK or Brazil

>>73447271
oh shut up you dumb blob about your guns

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>>73447247
>Americans
Are you sure about that?
I can go to my local gunstore and walk out with a pistol if I wanted to.

>>73443997
Slovenia Slovakia El Salvador best Slavic bros

>>73447374
Freedom of speech to m8.
Here we don't have "hate speech"

There are hate crimes, but you gotta fucking kill someone or something like that.

You don't get stopped or arrested for giving a muslims an ugly look.

It is total bullshit that Americans enjoy less civil liberties than fucking salvadorans.

Bother reading the report. It's a bunch of questions that they ask people. It's not an objective effort at studying each government.

>>73447337
pls annex us

>>73447380
In the context of the US, even though you can walk around with cutlery and call a black person a nigga till the sun goes down, it depends on the state or county you in, i.e it's legal in some states but not in others

>>73447247
Fuck off cunt
We don't have hate speech laws like pommies
Unless auckland has its own special snowflake laws

Americans worship freedom while living inside their prison cell. If you condition a people to believe they're free all their lives, then they'll end up believing it.

>>73447483
auKEKlanders worship zhangs cock
I wish someone would nuke you
You're the reason NZ has become globalist

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>>73447476
The only exception I can think are gang ridden areas like Chicago.

99% of American enjoy those freedoms I just described. Also, while gun and weapon laws are to the interpretation of the state. Freedom of speech isn't.

No one in the US will go to jail for insulting another person. No hate speech here.
Freedom of speech in american is stronger than in Europe.

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>>73447483
Americans have worshiped freedom since the beginning.

The trend of mass incarceration is a relatively recent phenomenon. A consequence of the "war on drugs." Technically most of them are indeed criminals.

But laws are being soften, and the imprisoned population will decrease through time.
When weed is legalized, and people start relaxing laws, then things will go back to NORMAL. The current situation isn't normal.
American prison population has exploded in recent years, it's by no means a historically american characteristic.

>>73447514
> Le Kek
> Le Zhang
> Le ((((Globalist))))

Go back to /pol/. I bet you're that autistic Amerilard worshipper that unironically uses the term "Yuro".

>>73447582
It fits perfectly.
Once the war on drugs is declared lost, and the laws adapt to recreational use of drugs like weed. Then we will start progressing. But drug use is still a problem. Hopefully it will get better in the future.

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>>73447582
>US_black_population_timeline.png

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>>73447614
forgot pic.

>>73447582
The mass incarceration has happened since your nonwhite population was exploded
You should know this

this just shows you how meaningless civil liberties are, who wants to live in uruguay over finland for example??

one of you Miltons please post a link so we can read the methodology

>>73447642
people want to live in Finland?

>>73447627
omg that's so racist Žižek

>>73447627
joke and all but the black % of the population has remained basically the same

don't many of those countries in the top have interesting gimmicks like going to jail for hate speech, being censored and attacked by the media and everyone else if you are against being a cuck, censoring the internet (eg krautchan) , losing your job for facebook comment, etc
Not that russia is any better though

>>73447644
I looked up the methodology.
Basically it's a quiz.
They just give random questions to people about their perception of the "fucntioning of government" and "civil liberties".
It's nothing objective.

go to the 8th page.
http://www.economist.com/media/pdf/DEMOCRACY_INDEX_2007_v3.pdf

2016:
http://pages.eiu.com/rs/783-XMC-194/images/Democracy_Index_2016.pdf

>Popular trust in government, elected representatives and political parties has fallen to extremely low levels in the US

>A trust deficit causes the US to become a “flawed democracy” Trust in political institutions is an essential component of well-functioning democracies. Yet surveys by Pew, Gallup and other polling agencies have confirmed that public confidence in government has slumped to historic lows in the US. This has had a corrosive effect on the quality of democracy in the US, as reflected in the decline in the US score in the Democracy Index. The US president, Donald Trump, is not to blame for this decline in trust,
which predated his election, but he was the beneficiary of it. Popular confidence in political institutions and parties continues to decline in many other developed countries, too.

Again, the whole problem with the US. it's about "Trust." It has nothing to do with institutional problem or lack of democratic values.

>>73447750
Yes.

>>73447750
Going to jail for saying muslims are terrorists is democratic, going to jail for saying that russians should be massacred is a horrible oppression by ebil Putin. Both are silly desu

>>73447728
or in absolute numbers, the total increase of the black population has been <1.5x while the rates are almost 5x. do Hispanics commit that much crime?

must be a different explanation like one of the offered ones

>>73443940
This country needs less civil liberties. Too many people who I don't like are doing things of which I don't approve or saying things with which I disagree. They must be stopped.

>>73447780
>it's a fucking quiz
So basically the cucks in Auckland skewed the score so it looks like all kiwis trust our globalist government

>>73447805
Hispanics commit less crimes than black, but a little more than whites.

Again, The rise in incarcerations is widely considered to be due to the war on drugs.

>>73447337
comfy

>>73444120
>Syria is more free than Japan
What sort of loser gommunist country doesn't give people the freedom to use sarin gas?

>>73447780
sure, the trust problem in the USA comes up in other indices too. you could argue most of those aren't "objective" but they do show us interesting things anyway.

the question and the responses are still interesting: race, print and electronic media. all those issues are current especially in the USA so they must influence the "civil liberties" score

>>73447833
Shut the fuck up retard

>>73447902
>race
America has never been more liberal with respect to race.
American diversity puts it at a disadvantage. We have to deal with REAL racial tension and conflicts. Norway got a few refugee families in 2014 and all of a sudden they feel like they can take the moral high ground on racial issues.
Please.

>print and electronic media
Trump can talk all the shit he wants. No actions have been taken against the media, and it is unconstitutional to do so.

>>73447947
t. auKEKlander
u mad bro?

>>73447995
I'm from Christchurch
From your mannerism i can tell you're new to this site, probably from that donald trump subreddit
Lobotomise yourself

>>73447948
you misunderstood me. I'm saying that all those issues are affecting people's perceptions (and some are arguably true too) at least so they affect the score too. look at some of the questions for example:

>Is there a free electronic media?
>Is there a free print media?
>Is media coverage robust?
>There is no significant discrimination on the basis of people’s race, colour or creed.
>The use of torture by the state


and what we basically agreed on
>Popular perceptions on human rights protection; proportion of the population that
think that basic human rights are well-protected

when you think in pissing contest terms, you miss the other poster's point!

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>>73448037
>boganville
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>be bogan
>get QUAKE'D

>>73448049
>Is there a free electronic media?
Yes
>Is there a free print media?
Yes
>Is media coverage robust?
Fuck yeah. I can't go a day without seeing trump's face somewhere
>There is no significant discrimination on the basis of people's race, colour or creed.
Yes, there is discrimination. But I wouldn't say it's worse than in many parts of Europe.
Put a black men in Hong Kong/Japan/Uruguay/Taiwan/Chile and see how they do. Most of those countries are highly homogeneous and are able to respond with a no.
>The use of torture by the state
There was illicit or non-sanction use of torture for suspected foreign terrorists. The use of torture exploded in the president's face and is no longer in place.
So, No. There is no known use of torture by the US for 2016.

>>73448164
jesus you goddamn burger

>>73448164
>>73448190
All I'm trying to say is that public perception isn't the same as objective.
I get that public perception could be a sign of actual violations of civil liberties by the government. But for an index like this, I would expect them to resort to better studies and analysis than just quizzing people.

>>73448230
I do think there's a correlation between perception and reality, nonetheless, if you look at the overall rankings you linked too (the USA is #17, not bad huh) but perception is important as well even if it isn't fully 'objective'. after all we both agree on the 'trust' issue

plus those indices aren't created with the purpose of pissing contests on online forums so people can feel either defensive or boastful lol. just take it for what it is

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>>73444047
>>73447318
Please delete these posts!

>>73448093
le auckland
le chinese
muh LIBRULS
globalism, look guys i know what the fuck i'm talking about

fuck up you dribbly cunt

>>73443940
tfw I drew a dick and submitted it in the flag referendum a few years back

liberty and freedom aint' free lads

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the fuck is this meme ranking? canada doesnt even have free speech and oz is the worst nanny state on this planet

USA should be #1

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>>73448716
You gotta water it with the blood of tyranny from time to time

>>73448672
I unironically wish we got Lazer kiwi

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>>73450358
I know that feel man

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>>73444273
Officially confirmed best Latin nation world wide,

Praise it!

>>73447337
>Slips on Big Mac™ wrapper
>cracks skull open on floor

>Mchealthcare™ services pull up
>before you're even in the Ronaldmcfuncar™ You pay a 20k fee
>Tips the drives
>after being stuck in traffic for 5 hours final reach Ronald McDonald™ Burger camp™
>Tip front desk worker
>see doctor
>Tip doctor
>Doctor thinks your tip was too low

>Gets put out back with the garbage

>Just another freedom filled day in Mc™Burger™Town™

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>>73448446
but muh Chinese, its not like they are the only reason our economy isn't is shambles.