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We all agree with this, right?
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Whats that weird red dot doing there?

Other than that, seems solid.
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Any European country can't be qualified as an artificial country, except Poland.
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>>73380718
Explain.
Please tell me how Belgium is a real country lmao
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We are 11th biggest economy on earth and still NO ONE ON THE EARTH recognizes us WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS THIS WHY ARE WE STILL IRRELEVANT
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>>73380753
Well, perhaps, but Germany and Finland are surely real countries?
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>>73380829
Because you're not known for anything. You're just known as that country that is not North Korea and have plastic women.
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>Spain
>A country
Gas the castillians independence now
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>>73380905
Germany was never a real country, it was just a combination of a lot of small independant duchies, principalities and kingdoms.
Finland is just a Swedish/Russian bastard child.
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>>73380829
brazil is on 9th and is worse than your country. this mean nothing
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>>73380910
You forgot Kpop
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>>73380829
Welcome into the lmb of almost relevant countries
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>>73380829
>>73380910
Although I suppose you would be a real country if you united. But while divided, you're not.
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All states are artificial
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Move Germany to the left pls <3
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>>73381087
>>73380829
>>73381049
>>73381087
*Hugs you*
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>>73380910
K-pop is almost well known as abba or swedish house mafia cunt.
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>>73381149
spain is 14 and is one of the best countries. unhug you*
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>>73380630
How is mexico not real if my eyes are real?
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>>73381049
>>73381087
>>73381149
AT LEAST YOU GUYS ARE ON OP'S LIST
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>>73380718
Can you explain the reasoning behind your opinion at least?
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>>73380630
Seems about right
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>>73381296
Aww, don't cry lil' Japan
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>>73380630
Pretty correct desu
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>>73381296
I think is vecause of north/south division. Germany wasn't relevant untill reunification. You should give it a try
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>>73381049
You have 4x the population
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>>73380989
> Germany was never a real country, it was just a combination of a lot of small independant duchies, principalities and kingdoms.
So are France, Italy, and Spain.
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>>73380910
Samsung
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>>73381296
if people forget about East Asian countries except Glorious Nippon, Creator of Anime that should make you feel good. less attention from whites is good plus East Asia is the future of the world anyway
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>>73381676
Yes but we've existed for centuries. Germany was created in 1800 something after the fall of the HRE.
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>>73381155
who are those guys lol
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>>73380630
Israel is pretty real unfortunately. That shit was around in bronze age, the old testament story about jews taking jerusalem is based on real life
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>>73381783
Then why is Italy there
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But Poland and the baltics are real
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>>73380630
The only real countries there are greece and red dot.
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>>73381866
Roman Empire counts as Italy.
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>>73381932
I bet you also think that modern Greece is the same as ancient Greece
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>>73381155
K-pop is not a band, it's a genre shortu dicku
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>>73382007
>genre
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>>73381545
>Germany wasn't relevant untill reunification.

2nd 3rd largest economy after USA and the UdSSR in the 1950 - 70s
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>>73380829
pepsi lol
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>>73381932
Then why HRE doesn't count as Germany?
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>>73381783
>Germany was created in 1800 something after the fall of the HRE.

It´s true that there were many kingdoms but there was a general sense of what Germany and Germans were
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>>73382045
Pretty sure what OP meant with this thread is that real countries are the ones that existed for centuries and artificial ones are the countries that have only become relevant "recently".
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>>73381155
>K-pop is almost well known as abba
No it's not. It's just a bunch of nerd koreaboos who listen to it. You're not going to hear k-pop on a radio.
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>>73381932
not at all, we're the ones who kept up the Roman state running up to the end. feels good being the only ancients in Europe :)
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EVERY country is artificial ffs
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>>73382076
HRE isn't Germany.
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>>73382130
>bulgaria existed for centuries
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>>73382130
then why is Italy on the left, Italy is neither old nor has it ever been a great power
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Exactly how mad does Scotland have to be for Britain to fall between the cracks.
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>>73382045
Yes but no army, no nukes, no eu, no salvs to invest into
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>>73382190
Then Italy isn't Roman Empire and Greece isn't ancient Greece.
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>>73382190
top fucking kek
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>>73382258
M8 I didn't make the thread, why are you telling me this?

>>73382309
It isn't. It's as much as Polish and Dutch as it's German.
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>>73382309
I think the is butthurt, because he wants to connect his swampland to the glorious HRE
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>>73382258
it's like contemporary nationalists everywhere are projecting their desires onto medieval states that don't exactly map to (their) modern nations, assuming such a concept existed in pre-modern times

no, wait, that's just the evil Marxists talking
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>>73380630
>China
>Real country

Just like the USSR
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>>73382391
Germany didn't even really exist before the HRE so you have as much claim to it as we do.
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>>73382370
>Poland
>part of the HRE

>Dutch
>a real country
>not a HRE leftover
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>>73382258
English speakers call Deutschland Germany, everyone else has their own name for it.
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>>73382465
We're all HRE leftovers. Germany is just a unification of a lot of irrelevant little pieces of land.
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>>73382427
both are very/were real states or do you only understand "country" as "nation-state"?
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>>73382391
>glorious
>holy
>roman
>empire
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>>73382554
>implying it wasn't
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>>73382140
WE
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>>73382370
>It's as much as Polish
it is not, we don't connect ourselfs to HRE since we are roleplaying as either persians either as levites
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>>73380630
>France a real contry
BWAHHHAHAHAHA

>we wuz franks/gauls/bretons/normans/occitans/savoy/catalan/burgundian/provence/german/latin/roman/greek/arab/english/scottish/spanish/austrian/russian/chinese/vietnamese/algerian n' shit
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>>73381287
You're not real, you've been given ARTIFICIAL conscience
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>"real"
>countries
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>>73382673
This triggers the republicans
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Sweden is also artificial
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>>73382673
Therefore you were mexicans AND french
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>>73382673
you basically described the modern USA and the USA is as real as it gets
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>>73382673
Is this the power of Americlap shitposting?
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>>73382578
it wasnt you serbian subhuman
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>>73382735
AND GOD FEARING RED BLOODED AMERICANS
>>73382753
GOD BLESS
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>>73380630
I can see what you are meaning, but how cant germany be a serious country? Even when it's the result of the unification of several "kingdoms", is the same as italy, and germanic people has been there since the begining of europe.

Trade germany for Japan and you get my support.
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>>73382784
t. I am Greek

It only lasted for 1000years
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>>73382784
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>>73380630
Artificial is better
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>>73380630
>norway
>not a swedish colony

>modern "greece"
>not created by the british to cuck the ottomans
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>>73383219
Fuck no I hate this shitty country
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>>73382993
844 years
Byzantium lasted for 1123 years
hitlers dream of a 1000 year reich destroyed because the subhuman attacked Greece

>>73383238
jealous portuguese shitskin
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>>73380989
If you make that argument for Germany, than you also have to make that argument for Russia
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fuck germany
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>>73380630
Turkey is an artifical country
France is partly an artifical country cause it conquered too much land and overextented its border
Spain is also an artifical country
China IS A FUCKING EMPIRE not a country
Dutchland is also an artficial country
Russia IS A FUCKING EMPIRE not a country
Poland is a real country
Finland is a real country
Italy is an artifical country
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>>73382465
Why should start an union with other HRE leftovers to improve each others fate.
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>>73383446
deutschland is shit
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>>73383455
We*
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>>73380630

why Polan is artificial?
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>>73383481
i'm talking about DUTCHland not DEUTSCHland
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>>73383511
you should get fucked
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>>73380630
Japan after 1945 is just an artificial existence that has the luck to exist thanks to the leniency and stupidity of americans
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>>73383515
It's moved its entire width westwards during from its inception.
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>>73383568
same shit
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>>73380630
Israel

Is rael

Is real

Sorry goy looks like Israel is real
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>>73383446
>Poland is a real country

on artificial territory
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>>73383669
>>>/x/
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>>73383669
euro goyim are jealous and end up chimping out because the superior Jews will outlast them
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>>73383669
Is ra HELL?
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>>73383730
east shitmany be given to poland
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>>73383613
Basically current Poland is almost identical to its 966 a.d. self. We have literally restarted from the 1st checkpoint.
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>>73380630
Define ''artificial''
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>>73383730
Polish people have a very old history and a racial continuity extanding from the antiquity to current day
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>>73381924
According to what characteristics?
If it's about the kindoms and all of that, it was the same for Japan
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italy is not a real country
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All countries are artificial, fuck having borders n shit lmao.
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>>73383922
Russia was literally VIKING'D into existence. You don't have natural borders or a homogeneous ethnicity, it doesn't get more artificial than that.
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>>73384002
fuck ireland
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>>73384002
>fuck having borders
a northern part?
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>>73383446
bad post, consider deleting it
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>>73384002
>All countries are artificial

that part is basically true
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>>73382219
It has been a steady and fairly powerful state for a long time, even if it isn't spoken of much nowadays
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>>73384024
>You don't have natural borders
And you better hope we don't acquire them boy
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>>73384046
Greece is full of subhuman roach rapebabbies.
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>>73384111
What has Italy archieved since unification?
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>>73384172
thats holland
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>>73384068
borders don't get much more artificial than northern ireland let me tell you now
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>>73384175
being a better country than this shithole
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>>73383767
It's because all their women are fucking Jamal's and Muhammad's, id be mad too.

>>73383775
That's not how it's pronounced you silly goy

Germany

Ger many

Germs many

Many germs from dirty refugees
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>>73384290
I agree, Holland is a shit province. Just like Greece.
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>>73384148
I wouldn't mind a second USSR collapse tbqh
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>>73384343
didn't know lazistan had the same flag as germany
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>>73382766
>americlap shitposting
Currently chortling
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>>73380958
t. Ramón Sánchez García
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greece = slavs and turks pretending to be ancestors of alexander the great
not a real country it seems
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>>73384354
Greece is better than holland.
I thought I tought you subhumans to not use the word shit anymore.

>>73384458
serbdog

>>73384564
jealous
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>>73384564
*descendants
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>>73384046
bit of a rude statement
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>>73384674
your shit nation is useless
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>>73384638
Dont forget the onions on my kebab, Ozturk.
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>>73384733
cf. >>73384674
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>>73384741
whites love kebab because their own food is shit
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>>73384082
Ethnically wise Flemish are Ripurarian Franks and should be a part of France, while Central Dutch aka Batavians should have their own country, and finally Frisians should also have their own country.
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>>73384564
>slavs and turks

so we're basically Finns
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>>73384856
finn
just another word for retarded
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>>73384952
what do you have against linux or registering with linuxcounter?
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>>73381932
WE
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>>73381932
t. Christian-Jaque Lanzilotto

The only thing Italians have in common with Romans is that they happen to live on the same peninsular
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>>73384852
Ethnically wise we're all from Africa so no country should be real amiright hahaha
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>>73382076
>H
>R
>E
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>>73384856
so you be saying that we Finns wuz Herakles and shiet?
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>>73385349
they have some thousand years more history than germs
ofc more things changed in that time
jealous kraut
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>Spain
> real country

Are they always almost splitting up
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>>73385445
more like that ugly cripple guy from the 300 movie
hahaha
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>>73380630
>greece is real
>germny is not
bait
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>>73385547
germany never won a world war
Greece never lost a world war
you ugly latino subhuman
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>>73385461

pic is Gaius Sextus Germanicus, conqueror of magna bavaria
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>>73385617
and this is his wife
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>>73382134
unfortunately this
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>>73385547
Greece was a state before Germany unified :))
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>>73385690
Greek flag looks better
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>>73384564
>another """""""""""""finnish"""""""""" post hating on Greece

didn't know refugee centres provided internet, mahmoud
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>>73380829
Samsung is nice I guess
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>artificial country
Easily the dumbest thing I've ever read on website.
Kill yourself.
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>>73380630
I know this is bait but...How is Israel artificial?

Its literally one of the most historic nations of that region and of Earth in general. It predates nearly all of those European countries you said are real.
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Fuck yeah, we're a neo-country.
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>>73385906
yahudi scum
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>>73380829
Because you are divided.
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>>73385831
USA is probably the most artificial one out of them all.
Literally just a mixture of a lot of Europeans living on land that isn't rightfully theirs.
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>>73385995
Nope, Im just a good goy.

Seriously though. Just because you don't like someone doesn't mean they aren't legit.

Palestine is a country made up by Europeans. First the Romans(who were at war with Israel) then the British Empire officially.

Israel is the real and rightful owner of that land. With much more to claim if they were to get their historic borders back. There is really no disputing it unless you are a muslim or Islamaboo like Germans.
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>>73381866

Italian nationalism dates all the way back to the 1500s, German nationalism was invented after Napoleon.
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>>73386137
>that isn't rightfully theirs.
¿?
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>>73386137
Every country is artificial you retard shitstain.
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>>73381061
>You forgot Kpop

Copying stuff that American and British pop artists did 30 years ago? Big deal m8.
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>>73386137
>not rightfully theirs
Those Europeans worked so much harder than any other Europeans in history though.

Continental Europeans have always been somewhat lazy.
Colonists transformed a blank continent into modern infrastructure in under 100 years in between a near endless series of wars and strife. Thats one of the most impressive feats in human history.

Europeans took thousands of years to become powerful, American work ethic got them on top in 200 years.
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>>73386203
No need to get angry about it, Hermano :^)
Fun fact, if you're 23 years old, you've been around for 10% of American history.

>>73386169
Stolen from the "Indians".
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>>73380630
How is Mexico a meme country when we have a large story , gastronomy, traditions of our own??
Yeah, this country has many flaws but we arent artificial at all..

The yanks deserve to be there for sure tho. Complete artificial they are.
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>>73386142
didnt read yahudi
i made this one
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>>73380718
You don't know what you're talking about. Poland is the only real country here. Imagine losing your entire country but everyone still keeps speaking this asinine language, everyone keeps hating people who aren't Poles, and everyone keeps being fucking miserable together. That's Poland and that is what makes us strong. You americans are losing out to blacks and mexicans so you aren't really a country anyway
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>>73386166
> it is the Italoboo leaf again
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>>73381839
>jewish stories
>real
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>>73386284
>Europeans took thousands of years to become powerful, American work ethic got them on top in 200 years.
This is the stupidest thing I've read today. You're pretending like you didn't use any of the knowledge we had lmao.
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>>73380829
kek
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>>73383979
But you do have the best national anthem out of everyone.
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If your country did not exist while Grotius was alive, your country is artificial
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>>73386142
>Palestine
>has existed since Ancient egypt

>judenstan
>made in 1948 by the Balfour Declaration by British Rothschilds

>jewish fairy tales
>real
JIDF plz go
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>>73386284
You stole nazi scientist. Congrats on the hard work.
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Earth is artificial ergo all countries are too
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>>73386284
Good American banter is hard to find. Good job.
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>>73386288
>Stolen
*Conquistadas :D
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>>73386445
Really makes you wonder.
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>>73386438
Yes, because space travel is what built American society.

No better than the niggers who claim picking cotton was "everything"

>>73386431
>being this retarded
crack open a history book, cletus.
/pol/ has one of the lowest average board iq scores for a reason.
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>>73386544
Everything that America achieved was achieved because of Europeans because that's literally what you are; Europeans in denial.
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>>73386544
The Torah is not a history book Schlomo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration
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>>73386544
>crack open a history book, cletus.
>w-wow your really ignorant go pick a book xD
>/pol/ m-muh /pol/
k
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>>73386284
what is WW1 and 2.
Come on pedro
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Latest science says modern Jews are Greek/Iranian converts:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/archaeology/scientists-reveal-jewish-historys-forgotten-turkish-roots-a6992076.html

>New research suggests that the majority of the world’s modern Jewish population descends mainly from people from ancient Anatolia, rather than predominantly from elsewhere in the Middle East.

>The new research suggests that most of the Jewish population of northern and eastern Europe – normally known as Ashkenazic Jews – are the descendants of Greeks, Iranians and others who colonized northern Anatolia more than 2000 years ago and were then converted to Judaism, probably in the first few centuries AD by Jews from Persia. At that stage, the Persian Empire was home to the world’s largest Jewish communities.

>According to research carried out by the geneticist, Dr Eran Elhaik of the University of Sheffield, over 90 per cent of Ashkenazic ancestors come from that converted partially Greek-originating ancient community in north-east Anatolia.

Direct link to the study:
http://gbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2016/03/03/gbe.evw046.full.pdf+html

>Jews are getting destroyed by their own Jew Science
>Israeli Jews destroyed, you cant claim territories your ancestors never set foot on
>Evangelicals who support Ashkenazi Jews migration of Israel under the pretext that they are descendants of ancient Israelites, destroyed
>Jews can now claim they are whiter than Germans
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Didn't the roaches have control over Palestine for centuries?
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>>73386739
>>73386739
Oyyyyyy veyyyy I died in the Holocaust when I was only 6, I'm descended from David himself. Delete this goyim
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>>73386625
yeah, the Romans recorded history and the Bible were all just kidding.

The Jews were never real. Its all just a trick.
Now you have opened my eyes!
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>>73386888
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>>73386763
For 4 centuries, before that it belonged to the Mamluk Egypshuns, then the Abbasids, then Umayyads, then Persians, then Romans, then the Politemic Egyptians, then the Greeks(Alexander's Empire) then the Persians again, then the Egyptians, Babylon, Assyria, Egyptians, and before that civilization didn't exist.
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>>73383446
>Italy is an artifical country
It's not, Italy as a concept existed since the Middle Ages, and we've never had a serious independentist movement.
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>>73386592
we are actually proud of our European heritage and enjoy brotherly bantz with you guys.

We just think you are bit lazy, and a bit pretentious but we'd probably fight wars for most of you if it came to that...again.
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>>73386888
>bible
>real
The Romans, Greeks, Persians and Egyptians all called it Palestine or some variation of it. The notion that Jews somehow originated from Palestine is just a modern Zionist myth. That even Jewish historians see as a religious story/myth.
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>>73386994
europeans dont think about you in real life
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>>73387040
thats not true at all hanz.

If nothing else you guys cover our Presidential election every cycle. But its more than that too.

>>73387024
Yeah, all those Jewish artifacts in the Jewish city of Jerusalem just got there by accident.

I mean, it was always muslim because we know muslims often let other religions build artifacts on their territory. Muslims are very welcoming people.
Makes perfect sense to me too.
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>>73380630
Grats on attracting all the autists on this board
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>>73386284
The work ethic came from Europe though
If you're basing the rest of your argument on that then it's a bit sad desu

They also imported a lot of technology from Europe because they traded a lot with England

Litterally the only reason the US became relevant, investors from Europe came and did it all
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>>73387170
That's not Hanz, that's Öran "I am a Greek" Çavasoglu
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are you fags actually fucking autistic
by your logic of germany being artificial because it was never unified, Japan isn't a ""real"" country either.
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>>73387170
>>73387170
What Jewish artifacts? Most of them date back to the 9th century when the Muslims opened their boarders to Jews seeking refugee sometimes even bringing them over from conquered European lands into more safer territory so they wouldn't be persecuted by the Euros. Even later when the Ottoman Empire brought over Jews from Spain as Andalusia was falling into Ottoman territory. The oldest artifacts in Palestine trace back to Ancient Egypt and Babylon, even before Judes existed.

You kikes really don't know your own history.
>muh muslims
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/umar-ibn-al-khattab
Even Juden websites talk about how the Muslims built them synagogues and other jude shit
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ireland was the first nation ever in the whole world, anything to the contrary is anglo lies
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>>73380630
>France
>not an artificial country created by Paris
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>>73387202
No, the settlers had a strong faith in God and thats where the work ethic came from.
They were also exiled from Europe for those beliefs.

As for the rest, its also only half true.
the US started its own corporations which became so good at their creaft even European empires wanted their technology.

America quickly led the world in gun crafting, manufacturing technology, farming etc etc. Then a bit later got huge into tech, and invented c: which led to personal computers, that were also dominated by companies like apple and Microsoft.

Europe actually began benefiting from us as much as we did them.
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>>73380630
What makes a cunt real or artificial?
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>>73387441
Fair enough, I'll admit that thhe US wasn't called "the New World" for nothing.

But I would also say that if you stayed colonies you would be just as happy and the world wars would never had happened.

Forthe simple reason that the British and French empires would have dominated the world even more and Germany would never compare.
And this even if it were only for the resources of your lands

Just a thought, but maybe if we continued nurturing our empires, we would have created the perfect Western society.
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>>73387425
>French didn't exist before 1789
Anglo """""""""""""""""""""""""education"""""""""""""""""""""""""
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>>73380630
We have our own language and therefore we're the only real country in the western hemisphere ;)
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>>73387921
The Western Hemisphere includes parts of Europe and Africa though
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>>73387687
Real countries
>have histories spanning thousands of years
>their boarders are decided through wars and battles
>have at one point been the most powerful nation in the world/had Golden Age/rekt everyone else
>entire chapters of history books are solely dedicated to them in school
>everyone they conquered gets butthurt when they are mentioned
>they created their own constitution/laws/government structure

Fake countries
>history is only a few hundred years or even less
>boarders are decided for them by more powerful superpowers/colonial overlords
>have too many straight lines in their boarders and/or not enough natural boarders
>they have the names of ancient nations/occupy the same land but it's just a meme name and they have no historical connections to those ancient governments/people
>not relevant in the world
>probably not even mentioned in any history books in school
>other people easily bully them
>their constitutions/laws/etc are decided for them by a foreign power
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>>73380829
Why south coreans are always so butthurt about everything?
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>>73386445
>>73386203
>>73382146
This.
OP is a daft
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>>73385037
Probably a butthurt wincuck
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>>73385612
Now i see why you're not a real country.

You fucking cucks.
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>>73388148
R E A L
E
A
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>>73388223
Funny how only the artificial countries are saying this LMAO
>a fucking artificial leaf
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>>73386544
>ignores facts
>hurr durr read a buk
The bible is not a history book
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>>73386318
Is there anything beyond the victim mentality that defines Polishness?
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>>73381839
Historical migrations are a fact for the majority of the world's populations. Only jews larp this hard about where there ancestors might have taken a dump 2500 years ago.
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>>73380630
>implying Norway is a real country
Let's forget about the facts they didn't have their own language until 20th century and throughout all history had been under Sweden.
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>>73389101
the neanderthal skull shape and orangutan behavior pattern. also, a paranoid fear, remaining in close vicinity to any toilet just in case it gets clogged
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>>73389101
what a smart post, get over it Polaks
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>>73380630
Don't really see how France or Norway is a real country, but Germany is not.
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>>73389293
You don't even know the very basics of Norwegian history and yet you're talking with authority as if you know about it. Go kill yourself you Czech shit.
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good job, OP, you really managed to trigger a lot of people lmao
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>>73380989
...so are every european country
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>>73380958
Are you Gabriel Rufián? You sounds like a brainwashed attentionwhore
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>>73380630
I agree
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>>73386603
>>73388848
there are certain parts of the bible which are historic though. there is no doubt that jews have lived there since at least 1000bc or earlier. the Book of Kings describes that Israel got sacked by Nebuchednezzar of Babylonia, which is confirmed by different records, assyrian if I remember correctly.

say what you want about current day Israel but the jews have certainly lived in the area in ancient history. where the hell do /pol/trds think they came from?
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>>73394167
>where the hell do /pol/trds think they came from?
Outer space, evidently.
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>>73382427
>says Mexico
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>>73383238
If you're gonna shitpost about Norway, at least call us a danish colony
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>Heiliges Römisches Reich Deutscher Nation
>Deutscher Nation
Really makes you think
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>>73396585
Sacrum Imperium Romanum*

And Germany didn't even exist after it collapsed, we did :^)
Germany is rightfully Dutch and Austrian clay.
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