Is English actually an Northern Germanic Language?

>>73332661
Well if we look at the whole language, most of it comes from Latin and French, these two sublingual groups in English actually overwhelm the Germanic percentage. Which means English is, in fact, not a Germanic language but more of a Romantic language

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>>73332661
hympnossis hrmph

old english is
current english isn't

>>73332661
100% true
are you retarded?

>>73332661
Western Germanic

>>73332788
This pie graph supports my statement

>>73332861
Current English is just a hybrid. If you were to have a normal conversation, with a pleb, most or nearly all grammar would be Germanic.

>>73332788
The very word "English" is Germanic though you twat. English shares way more in common with German then French.

>>73332890
I've seen a few studies stating that the Syntax of English is more similar to Norweigan or other Scandinavian languages than Western Germanic.

>>73332908
>This pie graph
>no pie graph

now i'm hungry

>>73332908
Nice

>>73332788
100 most used words are germanic....

>>73332951
I was stating before, that if you have a conversation with a normal person, nearly all the grammar you'll use will be of Germanic origin.

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>>73332983
Meant to post this

>>73332951
And no that's not true according to this, as you can see the Germanic is surrounded

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>>73332908

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>>73332930
This is true. The inclusion of French and Latin loanwords (loanwords being the key here) just expand the vocabulary greatly making it such a rich and beautiful language.

>>73333024
>includes Anglo-French
>Anglo
Anglo's were the Germanic people that migrated to the British isles. So what it's saying is that it's a mix of Germanic and Romantic.

only retards who don't know anything about grammar think english is a romance language

>>73333102
I've been seeing quite a lot of evidence to suggest that Grammatically we're a lot similar to Norwegian than, let's say Dutch.

>>73333024
Meaningless when most of the Latin words in the vocabulary are for scientific purposes. This pie chart includes the entirety of the vocabulary, most of which the vast majority of native English speakers will never use.
When growing up children first learn Germanic words, the building blocks of the language.

>>73333111
Yes and this only strengthens my argument because I had said originally in the first post that it is more of a Romantic language but not entirely as you have the Germanic quarter in the pie graph

>"English is sometimes mistaken by Americans as being a Romance language rather than a Germanic one."
Fucking seppos.

Most common words in English
The (Germanic)
Be (Germanic)
To (Germanic)
Of (Germanic)
And (Germanic)
A (Germanic)
In (Germanic)
That (Germanic)
Have (Germanic)
I (Germanic)
It (Germanic)
For (Germanic)
Not (Germanic)
On (Germanic)
With (Germanic)

>>73333264
They're speaking an older version of the language.

>>73333301
They're using less pretentious words*

>>73333261
Does the pie chart represent the entirety of the language or just the word origins? Either way I don't understand, The French piece is saying it includes words of Anglo origin, which is essentially Germanic meaning a good chunk of "Anglo-French" would be Germanic.

>>73333422
It's just a tally of all words, doesn't include usage.

>>73333301
explain

https://www.apollon.uio.no/english/articles/2012/4-english-scandinavian.html

A guy at the University of Oslo in Norway claims this.

I doubt it though.

>>73333458
English had reformation in the early 19th century, America split of during the late 18th century and never experienced this. They're still speaking a version of English which is more similar to Shakespearean English.

>>73332788
>fucking retarded post
>it's by my flag
Sad!

Either way, English is officially classed as a Germanic language by cunts who are actually qualified in the field. Idk why this is even an argument.
I'm going to bed
Fuck ya's

>>73333264
I didn't say it was a Romantic language, all I said, and let me re-iterate, is that it shared more words with Romantic languages and that it was more Romantic in that sense but as people have stated here, the Germanic sublingual group is used more, so realistically it is the more dominant part if English

>>73333495
Isn't extremely easy for you Norwegians to learn English? Is it because of decent education or similarity of the two languages?

>>73333284
>muh most common words

Your whole vocab' is French, deal with it.

>>73333530
Oh dear, did somebody actually trick you into falling for this meme?

>>73333561
It's a botched argument. Nearly all of those Romance words are never used by normal people, only by people in professional fields like STEM, and Posh twats.

>>73333566
It really is quite remarkably similar.

The only real difference in grammar is that we still have gendered nouns.

>>73333530
hmmmmmmm
got any sources?

>>73333530
what's the difference?

America has different spelling and a few grammatical differences (which I think Australia and New Zealand share), but I can't think of anything else

>>73333596
How's it a meme? http://www.wikiwand.com/en/English-language_spelling_reform

>>73333561
Bummer, the actual linguists who have classified English as Germanic have been proven wrong by an American intellectual on an aboriginal cave painting forum.

>>73333640
Mainly spellings and some grammar. http://www.wikiwand.com/en/English-language_spelling_reform

>>73333640
No we use British English you NONCE

>>73333724
no we don't you dumb fuck
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_English

>>73333546
How is my post retarded? Most of the words are indeed Latin and French, but the Germanic is used more and is there the phenotype of the language

>>73333765
It's most likely more similar than American English.

I think you guys forget that the majority of romance words in English also exist in German and Dutch.

>>73333822
obviously, but it's still different

>>73332661
It's French/Latin landscaping on Germanic soil.

>>73333828
It makes sense with Dutch, you were ruled by the Burgundian's for a long time and are in Proximity of France.

>>73333657
I never stated it wasn't Germanic in this whole entire thread

>>73333860
You still use the same spellings as us, don't you? Things like 'centre# and 'colour'? The difference is mainly dialect. '

>>73333895
Dutch is actually 51% romance according to the professor who wrote the Dutch etymology dictionary.

>>73333944
for the most part, although jail is growing in popularity over gaol.

there are grammatical differences too

>>73333969
You also have to take into account that in Britain, most regions have vast differences in spelling grammar. For example, the English which a Scouser uses is nothing like that of a person from Essex.

>>73333024
>muh vocabulary
american linguistics education

>>73333969
Also, in Northern Britain we use a lot more Norse words than the Southerners. This is due to Dane law.

>>73333765
We still share heaps with British grammar, it can be purely regional as well like South Australia usually favour British while Queensland may favour American.
>>73333969
Gaol has been deemed archaic for a long time here.

>>73333530
>They're still speaking a version of English which is more similar to Shakespearean English

Do Americans sound like a cross between Irish and a West Country accent?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPlpphT7n9s

>>73334059
one difference is supported by Australia's official dictionary, while I doubt Oxford does the same

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>>73333592
Try again sweetie x

>>73333960
That's crazy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIo-17SIkws

>>73334120
When did I FUCKING say that Australia doesn't "share heaps" with british grammar you LITERAL mong

>while Queensland may favour American
what the FUCK are you talking about

>>73334126
There are plenty of words which aren't recognised by the Oxford dictionary, that we use. They tend to be regional.

>>73334184
I'm not talking about vocabulary

>>73334125
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYiYd9RcK5M

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>all these indo-european speaking fucking shits

nauran perseeni irti

>>73334218
St-stop

>>73332661
You're a mix of Normans and Anglo-Saxons, so I guess so. In the same vein, Spaniards and Portuguese are mostly visigoth and Roman. The Angles and Saxons are just two tribes that were in Germany though, so it shouldn't be a shocker that most Germans look a little different than anglos. Both my mom and dad are from Germany and somehow certain people here in the US can tell I'm from Europe just from looking at me.

>>73334253
There's small differences in morphology. Britons look more Roman in appearance. Also, the Normans are Viking rape babies and were the ruling class. They didn't come over in vast swarms.

>>73332890
PlattDeautsch sounds more like English, but nowadays it's a fading language.

>>73334253
You also forgot about the Jutes, Danes and Norwegians. Also Frisians.

>>73334338
It's part of the same sub-language group, came from the same mother-language as Anglo-Saxon.

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>>73334350
The Jutes are usually grouped in with the Anglo-Saxons, all three being Germanic peoples who settled here.

Despite some interesting opinions here, English is indeed the mutt of languages.

Frisian. Angles. Jutes. Saxons. Picts. Normans. Germans. Plain old French. Then there are the Latin and Greek root words.

Go to Wikipedia, look up Frisian. Hilarious!

American English, Canadian English, and Australian/New Zealand English are all simple dialects and accents of RP British English. All are mutually intelligable, especially after beers. Hell, after a few beers, I can understand Dutch and German (uh, more or less?).

Chinese will never become a world language.

Me, I prefer Yiddish. Krauts, Dutchies, Polskis, Englanders can all pretty much get the gist of Yiddish, as long as it's not spelled with that goofy Hebrew alphabet.

>>73333530
It's funny people actually fell for this meme

They think Yanks sounds like old Brits because old Brits were rhotic when in reality old Brits sounded like current west country people which is nothing like Yanks

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>>73334399
>Me, I prefer Yiddish

>>73334397
I know. Just clarifying.

>>73334155
Some things can be translated quite a lot easier. For example he replaces respect with onlook.
But in Dutch you can replace respect with worthy.

He replaces famous with nameknown, but in Dutch it's beknown.

>>73334430


Muh friend Mohammed ("Mo" for short, as he's not a religious dickhead) is from Yorkshire. Jesus Horatio Christ does his accent sound thick!

Does New England/Boston American English sound more cockney than anything?

>>73333592
Cheese (Germanic)
Quest (Germanic)
Käse (German)
Kaas (Dutch)
Fromage (French)

I think you're more likely to find French loanwords in Germany such as portmonee, pommfritt, and Friseur

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>>73334505
>Does New England/Boston American English sound more cockney than anything?

>>73334443

Yiddish is very expressive, and combined with English and German is all you need to conquer the planet.

I'm actually more or less serious.

>>73334505
doesnt really sound anything like cockney but I suppose it's probably the closest to UK english because it's non-rhotic

>>73334505
>Does New England/Boston American English sound more cockney than anything?

No where near m8.

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>>73334510
>Friseur

>>73333906
Then what's your fucking point? I think we all know that English is some mixture of Latin and Germanic.

>>73334525

I was asking, not asserting.

>>73334350
Interesting. PlattDeautsch which they speak in east Friesland (Frisia) is very similar to English.

>>73334563

Do you want to know what is NOT "English"?
Taking offense with curse words for no damn good reason.

Calm down, go masturbate and come back when you can have a nice discussion with other adults without blowing up.

>>73334650
Still doesn't answer my question. Nice dodge though.

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>>73334733
That wasn't me, however he does have a point, you need to calm down as talking English is for people with a stiff upper lip, not for autists who blow up on a whim: case and point, German.

But my point was, was that even though it's mostly Romantic according to how many words there are in its vocabulary, this does not mean the language in itself, in realistic everyday use is Romantic. Since the more simple Germanic effectively usurps that position from the Romantic.

Therefore I would say, with the evidence at hand, that Germanic is, the dominant phenotype of English and the Romantic, the recessive genotype: if we were to compare and contrast it on a genealogical understanding.

I mentioned this before on the thread but I will say it again as a clarification