So Georgians and Armenians see themselves as European? I mean

>>73275033

Anything south of the Major Caucasus is Asia.

>>73275033
*do

Bump
Any Georgians or Armenians here

I always considered Georgia as Europe, but for some reason I can't put Armenia in the same way.

>>73275033
They are looks like south italian and behave the same way

>>73275033
Georgians maybe as their culture is closer to Europe and they are ethnically European.

>>73275715
>>73275845
But why not Armenians? They speak an Indo European language and are Christians

>>73275033

Georgia and Armenia are not geographically in Europe though. Georgians also don't speak indo-European and the Armenian language is heavily influenced by iranian.

>>73275887

>Armenians are Christians

They still look like durkas.

>>73275887
>But why not Armenians? They speak an Indo European language and are Christians


>>73275902
>and the Armenian language is heavily influenced by iranian.

>>73275033
Georgian is not an Indo European language you dumb fuck

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>>73275914
So do Greeks

>>73275902
>>73275924
The Iranian language(Persian) is literally a branch of the indo European languages

>le white = Caucasian
fucking westernormies

>>73275033
But Armenians speak Semitic language. They are somewhat like Christian Jews.

People are going a bit off topic here
Do Georgians and Armenians see THEMSELVES as Europeans?

>>73275715
Same here 2bh

>>73275033
it is unique
fuck europe

>>73275715
they arent christians

>>73275824
they dont you dirty subhuman

>>73275887
they arent christians

>>73275956

Except 40% of Persian/Farsi is Semitic and thus not really an indo-European language. Same applies for Armenian.

>>73275902
Georgia is the literal border between Europe and Asia according to the Greeks

>>73275945
shitskin australian

>>73276086
>germany education

>>73276011
they speak indo gypsy laguage

>>73276116
I am a Greek

>>73276113

One of the borders between Europe and Asia is the caucus mountain and Georgia is south of that. Most of Georgia is isn't located above or within the caucus mountain range.

Armenia is struck in the middle of the Zagros mountains so it's literally a middle-eastern country.

>>73275902
>Georgians also don't speak indo-European
So do Hungarians and Finns, yet they're obviously European.

>>73276111
Untrue. Aside from a few loan words and a script change, (P)arsi is without a doubt Indo-European language.

>>73275033
Georgians yeah but eastern type , unique

>>73275033
>>73275914
Armenians look like turks that's why
In fact they remind me of turks I live around a lot of them they look like turks and act like jews

>>73276035

They do but only to themselves as anybody else would laugh at them.

>>73276152

It's not a few, 40% of Farsi consists of Semitic/Arab loan words. It's hardly an indo-European language hence why linguists prefer to just say Indo-Iranian instead.

Georgians aren't european because they aren't located in Europe like Hungary or Finland.

>>73275033
>both speak an Indo European language

>>73276145
The borders changed. Now all of Western Russia is considered Europe although its the same piece of shit land like Siberia and is filled with some ugly finniggers.
Europeans always include sandnigger turkey but never Georgia. retarded whites

>>73276152
>yet they're obviously European.
turkey is more European than finland

>>73276157
>Armenians look like turks
turks look like armenians
turks are mixed
nothing about turkey is unique

>>73276201
No. Even the most basic words like brother (Baradar) are stil Persian in origin. Most loan words are in fact related to Islam, and are still in Iranian influence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_vocabulary#Arabic_influence
>In addition, since the plurals formed by the Arabic morphological system constitute only a small portion of the Persian vocabulary (about 5% in the Shiraz corpus), it is not necessary to include them in the morphology; they are instead listed in the dictionary as irregular forms.

You also forget that changing the lexicon of a language alone isn't enough to make it into a new language by itself. Arabic didn't do shit to the structure, grammar, and pronunciation.

>>73275033
obviously not an eggspert but

>they're geographically european
Nah, they are from Caucasus which is kind of a middle between Western Asia and Europe. Is Georgia and Armenia are geographically Europe, so is Dagestan, Azerbaijan and Chechnya. It's a region of it's own, just like Turkey isn't Middle East but isn't Europe either.

>Indo-European language
Armenia yes, Georgia no lol. Kartvelian languages are a family on their own AFAIK and it's isolate just like Basque.

>Christian
Yep, but that doesn't really make them European on its own.

I think that they can be viewed as Europeans in certain aspects, for example, historical relations to European nations and not Arabic/Asian nations, membership of organizations more related to Europe, but I lean to the conclusion that they are something of their own, unique. Just like Dagestanis or Chechnyans aren't Russians, but you wouldn't consider them Europeans even if they were Christian. Just Caucasians.

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Georgian here, AMA

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>>73276629


Do you love Trio Mandili?


Also, why did you leave a nice homogeneous country for a Muslim shithole like the Netherlands?

Georgianon here
We do. As part of eastern europe to be exact. Though certain exceptions stick to "muh special snowflake" idea...

>>73276629
Is it easy to get Georgian citizenship? Dual citizenship?

>>73276790
Are you light skinned or dark skinned

>>73276790
Gamarjoba! What are the significances of the towers in your towns?

>>73276691
I like em, they have nice voices and are qt, i'm born here and my parents met each other in Holland.

>>73276796
I believe so, yea. A lot of Turks here have it but idk about Georgians since there are so few of them

>>73276629
>>73276790
As one Georgian living in EU and another one living in Georgia, how do you both view Georgian-Europe relations, visa free travel and what in your opinion should further relations of Georgia-EU be? Where do Georgian people see themselves in ~50 years politically?

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>>73276823
Im kinda light skinned most people tell me i'm kinda yellow ish. Most Georgians are like this, but my dad is really white, they mistaked him as a russian back when he lived in Georgia

>>73276878


Are there many Georgians in The Netherlands?

>>73276900
No, around 2000-2500 maybe?

>>73276823
Personally im a bit darkskinned like balkanite or italian. In general it is a diverse country, you can meet people with various phenotypes from nordic to shitskin iranid
>>73276827
What towers do you mean?
>>73276855
I never had any problems regarding visas at all, so it doesnt convern me personally. It was a good political gesture and will further improve our relations. As for the future it depends on global political situation, though we will be part of certain european block for sure.

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>>73276938
Forgot the pic, heres my hand. Im outdoors and lighting is awful.
>>73276976
Oh, these are mainly common in mountainous regions of western Georgia. It had defensive purposes and our kings were storing arditional treasury here ro protect ut in case of invasions.

>>73277102
Mate, that's not darksinned at all. Also Southern Europeans aren't really "dark". Did you fall for the /int/ and /pol/ memes

>>73275033
>both speak an Indo European language
>American education
Actually, Georgian is not Indo-European.

>>73277124
when these dudes tan they get african-tier black.

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tfw no Georgian gf. At least I had half-armenian gf.

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>>73277150
not really, no
they tan just like any normal white person

>>73276878
>they mistaked him as a russian back when he lived in Georgia
did they beat him for looking like a r*ssian?

>>73275033
Georgians can be considered as european
Armenians can't

>>73277272
You're not in any position to say you fucking roach t*rk.

>>73276531
>Kartvelian languages are a family on their own AFAIK and it's isolate just like Basque.

Came here to say this; you're right.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kartvelian_languages

>>73277299
Actually I'm in the just right position since I'm in constant interaction with georgians and armenians

>>73277299
hes right though

>>73275033
Fuck off, Armenian diaspora, even Russians don't see you as a human being

>>73277396
bullshit. most armenians i met were nice people. georgians are better though.
even among belorussians and hohols there are much more assholes

>>73277396
russians are lower than armenians

>>73277429
>>73277432
t. churkas

>>73277432
t. I am a Greek

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>>73277450
t. gook

>>73277450
I am a Greek

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>>73277450
i wish, i really do

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>Be Armenian-American
>people mistake me for being polish

anyway, I can't speak for Georgia but Armenia is a middle ground where culture is influenced by both eastern European and Middle Eastern stuff while having its own stuff too. Politically it's definitely more European due to recent soviet occupation. I think the answer would be it's both Europe and Middle Eastern, or neither.

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>>73277603
euro-asia

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>>73277623
eurasia

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>>73277814
sheeeet

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Only Georgia is European of the two.

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>>73278181

>>73278226
red pill me on the "watermelon seller" meme

>>73275033
Georgian isn't Indo-european and the caucuses aren't Europe.

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Georgia and Armenia are white.

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>>73278334
they sell a lot of watermelin

So I know The term "white" is an American concept, but do any Armenians or Georgians consider themselves to be white. I mean there are a lot of pale ones

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>>73281141
Armenians are turks basicly
Georgians are caucasians. It is difficult to say but i guess some say were white others say not really. But colour of the skin doesn't matter

It's about the things that the country has done like, culture, history it's people, etc.

>>73281141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sayCaOYDW4

>>73275033
>both speak an Indo European language
*leans into mic
WRONG

Georgian belongs to Kartvelian languages, mr American Education.

Lol. Them all are too far away from being europeans. For your west understanding: they are similar with latinos, but not even a latinos: just little agressive with hot blood and energy. Most of them with low IQ (because of low education, a lot of persons can be clever there, it is not a nationality problems). By cultural traditions, menthality and so on, them are near turkish people, but with another religion.

They are not europeans.

It all only my opinion, I don't take this opinion like fully true, it is just from my point of view.

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>>73283695
slavshit