>krauts >aryan fucking lol

wow, France is Nordic af

(it's also nigger'd/sandnigger'd af, tho)

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>>73240011
Krauts are our rape-babies.

Wehrmacht rapes didn't change anything. It was basically Poles raping Poles.

>>73240073
>vandals wuz slavic and shieet

that's why they spoke germanic language and had germanic names right?

>>73240073
One of the most talented generals of Nazi Reich.

Erich von Manstein(originally von Zalewski), from the Germanised Polish house.
>>73240117
Marcelek wypierdalaj, tumanie, Nic nie rozumiesz nigdy.
Byli germanami z terytorium Szwecji, ale ich kobiety zostały wyruchane przez Proto-Słowian, bo przyszli tu w małych ilościach. I dopiero te hybrydy poszły rozjebać Rzym.

>Germany
>mainly Germanic
Yeah no shit

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>>73240155
Not really.

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>>73240011
I don't understand.
If yellow represents slavicness then the Nordics and freaking Iceland would be even more slavic than Germans.

>>73240151
>źródłem jest jakas zjebana panslavistyczna strona

w chuj prawdopodobne nie zapomnij że polacy to ci no wschodni germanie

>>73240178
R1a isn't "Slavic" just because it peaks in Slavs. It's from Corded Ware who were pre-Slavic.

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>>73240011

>>73240073
I don't know if you're memeing or not not but
1. Poles didn't rape anyone, russians did
2. most women aborted the babies so very very few people are actually products of rapes, in fact so few that you can't even see them in statistics

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>>73240178
It represents Corded Ware Expansion.

Later it was brought by Slavic mercs.
http://www.au.dk/en/news/single/artikel/harold-bluetooths-vikings-were-polish-mercenaries/
>>73240192
>eupedia
>panslawizm
O jak rykłem. Tańcz kurwo

>>73240178
It also represents aryaness so you're scientifically proven to be a bunch of shitskins which explains your barbarity and cowardice.

>>73240225
Learn to read.

>>73240176
>r1a
slavic, kurgan, ARYAN
it's retarded aryans are put in the same category as filthy slavs, there's a reason Hitler genocided you while praising aryans

>>73240277
Are you mentally challenged?

>>73240277
Aryans came from Iran and Slavs are related to Scythians which were iranian tribes. Slavs are literally more aryan than germanics.

>>73240073
>>73240267

vandals weren't poles retard

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>>73240208
ebigness

>>73240277

East Germans mainly have the same R1a subclades as Slavs.
Scandinavians mainly have the subclade which was present in Corded Ware Scandinavia/Germany.

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>>73240322
Never said that, you imbecile.

Their women got fucked by Proto-Slavs though, which resulted in male lineages being from Slavs, not from Germanics. >>73240073

You have problems in reading, Hun ape?

>>73240208
Kek.

>>73240277
>there's a reason Hitler genocided you while praising aryans

Ironically he had an african haplogroup.

>>73240239
>Yellow represents aryaness
Did you decide that because Poland is the most yellow country?
If we go by aryan = white, blonde, blue eyed then it would seem that the nordics would be the most aryan and that means the turquois color would be the most aryan group.

>>73240321
>polish education
You do realize Hitlers definition of aryan had absolutely nothing to do with Indian aryans right? Hitler defined aryans of people with germanic/nordic ancestry, which poles aren't. Iranian aryans/ Hitler aryans.

>>73240011
>>73240176
I know you didn't have the best education in poland, but L1 and R1b 'are' the germanic groups.
The carriers of the Indo-European culture aka. "Aryans" are culturually influential in europe, but not genetically relevant to the ethno-synthesis of the germanics, who had very little contact outside of trade with them. If anything a lot of R1a means you are less germanic and more slavic, since the slavs are basically their descendants after the original population got conquered and displaced.

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>>73240381
>>73240385
No one cares what Hitler thought.
He lost, shot himself like a cuck. His pseudo nation got raped and decimated.

Krauts aren't Aryan. You never were.

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>tfw R1a-Y10805
>tfw you descend from an Indo-European clade that predates Baltics, Slavics and Germanics
>tfw Ancient

>>73240385
>some manlet can change definitions because he said so

why would I give a flying fuck what Hitler thought Aryans were? Map is about literal Aryans not your larping bullshit you fucking russian rape baby.

>>73240361
Not an African subclade, though.

>>73240410
R1b has nothing to do with Germanics, outside of the fact that R1b and R1a raped l1 women.

That's why West Germans look like French.

Keep memeing with your mental gymnastics.

>>73240415
nobody wants to be a swarthy Iranian aryan. When people today speak of aryans they mean blonde blue eyed people and not swarthy slav shits.

>>73240410
>"Aryans" are culturually influential in europe, but not genetically relevant to the ethno-synthesis of the germanics
So you admit to not being Aryan, but a filthy Paleo-European?

>>73240465

>l1 women.

I can believe the raped I1 men and I can believe they raped women, but I1 women?

>>73240477
Now I know you're fucking retarded.

Don't even respond to me anymore without my permission.

>>73240465
>That's why West Germans look like French.
Its more that french look like west germans due to the migration of germanic tribes into that area. eastern france and western germany were one realm for a very long time after the great migration period.

>>73240491
Of course we're not "aryan" aryans were crypto russian horsefuckers.

>>73240493
He worded it poorly, they fucked the women of I1 men and gave birth to Germanics.

>>73240448
nobody gives a shit about Iranian aryans. They are swarthy mudshits. You can't be proud being a sandnigger. In fact poles should be ashamed descending from sand niggers

>>73240410
You just admitted slavs are more aryan retard. Go get killed by a Turk or watch your mother get raped or something.

>>73240465
R1b and R1a may have raped "I1 women" during the Indo-European expansions into Scandinavia, but it was the other way around during the later Germanic expansions. West Germans "look like French" because I1-heavy men raped the Celtic populations that were living there before them.

>>73240493
Might be in the wrong here. But Vandals had to be mainly l1, right?
>>73240538
Poles don't descend from Iranians. >>73240237

>>73240504
Don't ever come to my country without my permission. You people are worse than sandniggers. Stay in your own country if you think it's so great.

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>>73240556
>the other way around during the later Germanic expansions. West Germans
Oh really? >>73240073

>Germanic-speakers were not the original IE inhabitants of territory which is now Poland, they came during middle-to-late Iron Age as immigrants or invaders and in relatively small numbers.
>There is a biological population continuity in Poland since the Bronze Age until nowadays - neither Germanic immigration nor Slavic immigration altered it considerably.
>Language & culture of population of Poland were changing few times, but population - in its main core (not counting quite numerous admixtures from migrating peoples) - is similar as in times of Biskupin-builders:

http://www.staff.amu.edu.pl/~anthro/pdf/mono/vol012/01piontek.pdf

>>73240553
>You just admitted slavs are more aryan retard.
Yes and? I never denied that. Of course slavs are more genetically related to aryans, you are the direct descendants with the native population while the megalith peasent cultures that later became germanics kepot them the fuck away from their forests.
I have no idea why you think thats so special to be some south russian nomads rape baby.

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>>73240583
Ah yes. You'd rather have muslims, just like HE wanted.

Germans are the genetical mistake of Europe. You can't mix West Europeans with North and East Europeans and hope something good will come out of it.
>>73240618
>russian nomads
Shut your mouth already, stupid cuck.

>>73240618
>be kraut
>hehe aryan master race ;)
>get BTFO
>a-actually it's not so special I'm proud my ancestors lived in fucking forests and raided rome killing unarmed villagers because I'm the most cowardly race on the planet :*

>>73240594
Poland isn't France you fucking retard and it has nothing to do with West Germans.
lmao.

Also that quote only proves the point that Vandals being R1a isn't proof of them being Slavic - neither Slavic or Germanic populations seriously altered the genetics of the people living in that region, so they were always R1a since the Indo-European expansions.

>>73240664
Another imbecile that can't read.

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>>73240639
>Shut your mouth already, stupid cuck.

You will always be russias bitch, forever and through all forms of it. Better get used to it.

>>73240639
Yes I'd rather have 20 sandniggers living next to me than a single sl*v. Not because I love sandniggers but because I absolutely hate p*le shits.

>>73240650
>my prehistoric illiterate barbarian ancestors are better than your prehistoric illiterate barbarian ancestors
how low can we sink?

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>>73240706
>Be Western European race scientist in the 19th and 20th centuries
>Fap over Mysticism and ancient Aryanism, proclaim yourself and your people pure Aryans whilst considering Eastern Europeans sub-human
>Genetic science comes along
>Turns out you're a filthy Iberian (R1b) and Eastern Europeans are the true descendants of ancient Aryans (R1a)
>"W- who the fuck cares"
Really makes you think.

>>73240650
>and raided rome killing unarmed villagers
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Noreia
>unarmed villagers
>polish """""education""""""

meanwhile polish weaklings have spread their asscheecks and their womens legs for anything that come from east or west to them and now you pride yourself on your pathetic cuckery.

>>73240689
>>R1b has nothing to do with Germanics, outside of the fact that R1b and R1a raped l1 women.
>>That's why West Germans look like French.
>>>That's why West Germans look like French.
>THAT'S WHY WEST GERMANS LOOK LIKE FRENCH.
You then went on to post about Poland's genetics, as if it in some way relates to what was happening in Western Europe with the French and Germans. You're the mentally deficient one here, m8.

>>73240781
R1b is Indo-European. Must I post the haplogroup results for Yamnaya?

>>73240781
>Turns out you're a filthy Iberian (R1b
Actually R1b is in Iberia because of the migration from central europe down there, not the other way around.


>Racial mystics were fucking retards
>news at 11
They also thought aryans came from scandinavia.

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>>73240786
Kek krauts only ever won against us if their russian fuck buddies helped them. You're like niggers or zergs.

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>>73240781
Turns out I'm not one of those race scientists and I don't roleplay as my country from the 19th century so I never had to change my opinion on the matter

>>73240855
Oh yeah, we totally needed their help to roll over yout pathetic country in WW2.
Except we fucked you over before they even moved a single tank. Poland has never won anything without lithuanians doing the actual fighting.

>>73240849
>They also thought aryans came from scandinavia
From atlantis actually it was what ahnenerbe was searching for along with the holy grail:) such psychosis.

>>73240821
Only a part of Yamnaya was R1b. R1a clearly dominated, with R1b later seeking new lands as they weren't able to challenge their superiors.

>>73240855
we absolutely destroyed poles in WW2 without a single Russian helping us. We almost genocided your entire country and you pussies did nothing. At least the rest of Europe tried to defend their countries, you just surrendered and got killed.

>>73240925
Nice one. I guess that explains why R1b ended up with the best land, then? ',:^)

>>73240893
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Poland

kek keep being butthurt and trying to revision history

>>73240855
>>73240893
Biggus kekkus dickus autismus maximus of both of you. Keep on posting, lads.

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So is this what they meant?

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>>73240930
>Poland
>surrended

literal retard

also after the war we hanged krauts on meat hooks how does that make you feel little fag? Literally took you out from your homes and butchered you like animals. Oh and in ''german'' Danzig you were treated well too

>>73240943
aR1ans weren't yet aware of the existence of such lands. R1berians just rode around aimlessly in search of a land not dominated by superior aR1ans, as they weren't able to challenge them, and stumbled upon Western Europe.

>>73240944
>a whole bunch beating up other slavs
>every war against germans are defeats
LMAO
Yeah, that totally convinced me you aren't a pathetic failure of a country.

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>>73240943
>best land
Hmm? Isn't Eastern Europe the breadbasket of Europe? The best farming land?
>>73240893
We won against Krauts 1v1. Almost every single one of them.

>>73241000
Pretty funny, lad.

>>73241034
Tbh East doesn't really have access to the sea so that's a big minus as a location.

>>73240996
and what did get you? We lost the war and suffered almost no consequences, we even got money from Americans while your shitty country got absolutely raped by soviets. Now we're the richest country in Europe and you're one of the poorest. Must feel really shitty "winning" the war and now being poorer than the losers.

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>>73241020

still butthurt lmao

btw how does it feel like having your culture eradicated and people murdered by people you let into your country? Must be fun.

>>73241034
You've got to be joking, mate. Italy, Greece, Anatolia, Central Europe, France, Iberia and the British Isles have dominated Europe (and ultimately the world) for time immemorial.

>>73240996
>implying it wasn't the russians that did it while poles cowered in their houses
How about that Warsaw uprsising when you cucks tried to overthrow the already failing Wehrmacht occupation and then your "freedom fighters" had to surrender and grovel to the germans to spare them after it failed.
Without russia you couldn't even put up a proper resistance movement, even the french did better.

How does it feel to have had to shout around how you're gonna drive out the germans just to have to crwal back like a beaten dog because russia didn't help you?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitulation_after_the_Warsaw_Uprising

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Why do Krauts even pretend to be "germanic"?

You're as germanic as you're slavshit, genetically wise.

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>>73241034
>Eastern Europe
>Bread basket of Europe

You're thinking of France, buddy.

>>73241038
Deep down you know this to be true, there is a reason why IE heartland is almost exclusively R1a and why the upper caste of societies like Sintashta were exclusively R1a. R1b were clearly their disciples, who went on to test their newly acquired R1a technologies against savages.

>>73241106
>>73241125
Not really. I isn't about this.

East Europe has the best farming lands, which from the tribal point of view is the best land to live on.

It has nothing to do with achievements.

>>73241034
>Hmm? Isn't Eastern Europe the breadbasket of Europe?
It could be, but sadly its occupied by slavs who are too lazy and incompetent to make use of it.

>>73240994
Kek. My only critique is the historical accuracy of the placement of R1a relative to R1b, considering that R1b came to Scandinavia after R1a and dominated. Ideally they should both be on the chariot.

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>>73241148
Ah yes, competent Germans.

Germany should shrink even more.

>>73241144
Then call it the most fertile land in Europe.
Calling it the bread basket of Europe supposes it actually feeds Europe.

>>73240011
>>73240073
please dont bully us, pure plooded samaritan

>>73241144
Nope, even at the time those lands were way better off in terms of wealth and development. R1b took the richer lands which they had to fight for, while R1a remained in the relatively uninhabited and empty lands of Eurasia. Of course, R1a eventually managed to take the Iran and India, however, I'm guessing you don't really care about them much considering your focus here on Slavs.

>>73241160

But chariots were neither invented nor utilized by R1b Indo-Europeans until much after they had acquired their present day lands.

The R1b stand for the Latvian mesolithic cucks who got blown the fuck out so hard by Balts they no longer exist in any extent.

>>73241184
>meanwhile most of polish historical land is owned by russians and all they own is through victories of western europeans
But you're too scared of russia to actually get your land back, meanwhile we still own more than we did before the great migration.

>>73241233
What polish land Russia has?

>>73241230
>The R1b stand for the Latvian mesolithic cucks
Fair enough then, but that piece of art is from Scandinavia so it still doesn't really make sense.

>>73241222
Do you even into Chernozemy?
>>73241233
muh historical land.
Actually, Historical land of Poland would be Eastern Germany and Poland.
East was only acquired to protect GDL from getting annexed by Muscovy.

If Poland choose to stay in the West political zone, Germany wouldn't even exist.

>>73241160
>we wuz horse charioteers
Stop appropriating aR1an culture, R1berian filth.

>>73241283
>If Poland choose to stay in the West political zone, Germany wouldn't even exist.
How, exactly? You couldn't even get rid of Prussia.

>>73241283
>If Poland choose to stay in the West political zone, Germany wouldn't even exist.
>chooose
Hahahahahaha
Russia bend you over, you never had a "choice". if you hadn't gone to beg to russia, poland wouldn't exist.

>>73241283
Keep telling that yourself

>>73241279

Central Scandinavian Corded Ware came from Finland/Baltic based on the genetic similarities of a Northern Swedish Corded Ware man.

It's all in The Genetic History of Northern Europe.

Swedish archaeologists used to acknowledge it as fact but then they decided they don't want it to be true.

>>73241342
Yeah but why are Latvian R1bs in Scandinavia?

>>73241321
t. Russian NEET.
I should've known.
>>73241319
Learn some history.
>>73241337
Isn't that what Germans do since their conceivement?

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Literally all of the krauts after reading this lmfao. I love polish shitposting

>>73240381
aryan = white, blonde, blue eyed
kek
you do realize that the people who coined this term were ancient North-Eastern Iranians and ancient vedic Northern Indians/South-central Asians right? They were white, but not blonde haired or blue eyed, they most likely had light brown to black hair with a bunch of different eye colours.

>>73241368

Stop overthinking it you fucking autist

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Daily reminder that all anti-R1b R1as and vice-versa are N1ggers and (J)ews attempting to divide the Aryan race.

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>>73240117
>germanic names
ah yes, so germanic,


sooooo volkisch it hurts. oh wait...

>>73241400
No need to get upset, friend. We are both aRyan brothers here, I do not condone any fighting between us.

>>73241426
>polish translation uses polish versions of names
WOW SUCH A REVELATION
What a retard you are.

>>73241434

I'm not R1a the other Finn is

>>73241403
Stop appropriating R1a ethnonyms, no Aryans were ever R1b.

>>73241461
It's hard to tell the difference, your posts sound exactly the same 2bh.

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>>73241459
Did you even read it? Of course you didn't.

>Jordanes mentions during the 5th century three Gothic kings, apparently living under Hunnic rule, called Valamir, Thiudemir and Vidimir. These names are quite odd, as the first two almost certianly translate to Walamar and Thiudemar. The last seems odd in the normal Germanic naming scheme. Unless the letter "n" was left out and it actually read Vindimir. In that case it would translate to Wendemar, and the three kings would have names meaning famous Celt/Roman, famous German and famous Slav.

>Isn't "mir" slavic for peace or world? Or is it only in Russian borrowed from Goths?
Whatever the history is "Vidimir" have a slavic vibe ?
see >>73240073

>Majority (if not all) names ending with ow/ov, owa/ova, owo/ovo, in, ina, ino, au, itz, itza, itze or having wend/vind root are of Slavic origin.

Keep crying. Your XIX century lies are coming to an end. WE were here first, not you.

>>73241463
Well if you want to get autistic about it, "Aryan" was only used by Indo-Iranians and not all R1as.

>>73241507
>Krol the word for king derives from the name Karl, clearly this proves all poles have been ruled by germanic kings

Thats literally your argument you autist.

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>>73240058
Nope

>>73240011
This map is wrong we're 70-80% R1b whi is Hittite-Trojan

https://vieilleeurope.wordpress.com/2015/11/26/the-hittites-r1b-chariots-iron-the-first-indo-euro-writing/

Xbox was always a shit console I mean let's face it the fuck was there to play on OG box? Exactly. And as for 360 lmao some fucking baby's first multiplayer shooter and dudebro coop game about steroid abusers fighting aliens.

Playstation on the other hand always was the best console on the market you stupid fucking cunts.

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>>73241580
Except Proto-Slavic rulers weren't called 'Król', they were called "Ksiądz" or something similiar to it, which was later taken by Priests.
Król came with baptism and for the obvious reasons.


How sad it must've been that when WE-wuzing Turd Reich autists were digging for their old germanic civilization they only found remains of Proto-Slavic cultures.

>>73241507
>WE were here first, not you.
Who is "we" do you really think that Vandals, who came from central germany, were somehow crypto-polish people, rather than you know, polish language and naming schemes being influenced by the germanic diaposra taking over that land?
Polish education seems even worse than burder education right now, what the fuck do we pay you all that EU money for?

>>73241541
Sintashta (proto-Aryans) branched off of Corded Ware, a R1a culture, so there is reason to assume they had a similar self-designation at one point. R1berians had nothing to do with them, the ancestors of Poles did. Stop larping and call yourself an Iberian instead.

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>>73241668
No, you stupid monkey

"Proto-Slavs" came here first with Corded Ware, they settled here. Then came Vandals and Goths as refugees in small numbers, they got assimilated and their women got fucked by the natives.

I swear to God, you're baiting me.

>>73241634
>were digging for their old germanic civilization they only found remains of Proto-Slavic cultures
What the fuck are you talking about? What do the Vandals have to do with pre-migration era slavs?

Vandals were displaced by the Huns and the slavic vultures just settled on their land afterwards.

>>73241669
>assume
Come back when you have proof of Slavs designating themselves as "Aryans"

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>>73240533


The Genuine germans were all blond-red haired, if you look like us it mean that we you got raped by us

>>73241718
>Vandals were displaced by the Huns
Not really.
>the slavic vultures just settled on their land afterwards.
Not really >>73241710
>>73240237
>>73240073
>>73240594

Keep your outdated "we-wuzing" crap to other chimps like you.

Guys stop fighting
R1a and R1b are brothers, do not divide us for petty reasons pls

>>73241623

I found a good forum for you Frank

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/forum.php

>>73241710
>"Proto-Slavs" came here first with Corded Ware
YYeah ewhich means they came after the original megalith pastoral population which germanics descend from. So you did came later by your own argument.

>>73241787
l1 are paleolithic niggers that got civilized by others.

>>73241745
You're grasping at straws here, we both know that it's ridiculous for non-R1a1a1 to label themselves Aryan so stop doing it.

>>73241758
The only one "we-wuing" here is you with your retarded "we wuz Aryans and shiieeet", "we wuz vandals and shiiieeeet"because your own history is so pathetic you need to associate with some proto russian nomads who raped your ancestors into submission and like the cucks you are you are prouid of it.

>>73241857
yawn

>>73241835
You said "R1a ethnonyms" though. It's not my fault you weren't being specific enough.

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>>73240011
>austrians and norweigians are slavs
Really makes you think

>>73241160
>Ideally they should both be on the chariot
All Sintashta samples were R1a and
>The Sintashta culture is regarded as the origin of the Indo-Iranian languages. The earliest known chariots have been found in Sintashta burials, and the culture is considered a strong candidate for the origin of the technology, which spread throughout the Old World and played an important role in ancient warfare.[4]

IMO, the word Aryan has Uralic origins like Indra(from Udmurt Inmar, cognate to Ilmarinen) which is why it's not found in other IE languages

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/uros

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/urho#Finnish

>>73241898
It is an ethnonym invented and used by R1a people originally, which in essence makes it a R1a ethnonym. Not that hard to grasp, is it?

>>73241764
We, Poles, love to argue for the sake of argument and to quarrel for the sake of quarrel.

This proves the Kraut speaking here is fucking Pole in denial, I swear it to you. His Slavic genes are screaming through his fucking posts.

>>73241764
Brothers don't kill each other you fucking leaf.

>>73241807
You gotta make up your mind of your story here m8. Either you are aryans and shieet in which case you came here after the megalith pastorals and we are the original inhabitants. Or you have been here first, in which case you can't be aryans.

But I solve the mystery for you, modern slavs are the descendants of megalith pastorals who got dominated and displaced by the indo-european culture carrier group in eastern europe, and the germanics after their ethno-synthesis migrated into eastern central europe, and much later during the great migration period slavs moved into the vacuum left by the migrating germanics. You can we-wuz about your aryan heritage as much as you like, but it doesn't mean shit.

>>73241764
>R1a and R1b are brothers
R1b is the inferior one of the two, though.

>>73241627
Fit me u fuckn cunt.

>>73241986
keep crying

it's entertaining.

>>73241990
>lives in the much better, more fertile and more civilized regions
>inferior
If R1a is so superior, why did it stay sheepfucking nomads and R1b the great civilizations of europe?

>>73241983
They do at times when the situation gets really bad or when they are tricked into fighting each other by an invisible enemy pretending to be one of them in their own ranks

>>73242037
R1a created Iran and Scythia, R1berians would have never achieved anything if not for R1a influence.

>>73241983
Cain and Abel would disagree.

Daily reminder that Buddha was R1a.

>>73241783
>Deny that Hittite-Trojan were R1b
Here is a text from your beloved Eup*dia since you love this site so much


There is substantial archaeological and linguistic evidence that Troy was an Indo-European city associated with the steppe culture and haplogroup R1b. The Trojans were Luwian speakers related to the Hittites (hence Indo-European), with attested cultural ties to the culture of the Pontic-Caspian steppe. The first city of Troy dates back to 3000 BCE, right in the middle of the Maykop period. Troy might have been founded by Maykop people as a colony securing the trade routes between the Black Sea and the Aegean. The founding of Troy happens to coincide exactly with the time the first galleys were made. Considering the early foundation of Troy, the most likely of the two Indo-European paternal haplogroups would be R1b-M269 or L23.
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1b_Y-DNA.shtml

>>73240117

Today French speak a latin language, but it doesn't mean that we're Latins, same goes for today Turks who speak a Turkic language despite not being Turkic, same goes for Vandals.

>>73241951
It's also not hard to grasp that it wasn't used by ALL R1as, only Indo-Iranians.

>>73242114
>R1a created Iran and Scythia
Oh yeah the great civilization of Scythia with their... uh...

Meanwhile R1b had real civilisation in difference to the nomadic R1a who only learned about civilisation from R1b.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Europe_(archaeology)

>>73242114
R1a also created the vedic civilization which lead to the mauryan empire and all of the administrators, generals and intellectuals were R1a

>>73242164
Rome was based on Etruscan civilization, it was no innovation on the part of R1berians.

>>73242164

There was no R1b in the high cultures Old Europe. They were G and I2.

Western Euro R1b is of Kurgan origin.

>>73241398
>aryan = white, blonde, blue eyed
>be mixed race blonde, blue eyed, and can't-ever-tan pale
Can confirm for bullshit

>>73242236
>generals and intellectuals were R1a
just like Erich von Manstein aka von Lewinski

>>73242238
Romans dominated the entire Mediterranean while the Etruscan cuckbois stayed cucked in northern Italy. Also no civilisation in purely unique, they are all heavily influenced by preceding ones.

>>73242238
No it wasn't, Rome was build by people that had displaced the Etruscans.

>>73242254
>Western Euro R1b is of Kurgan origin.
Lmao.
>it was totes a magical different kind orf R1b

>>73242306
Further proves polish animals can only be made into something worthwhile by germanic education and culture. Thats why you never had a Manstein.

>>73242335

With enough rape and violence you can implant any haplogroup on any population.
Matter of fact is that R1b didn't really exist in Western Europe prior to the end of the Neolithic.

>>73242254
>Yamna is predominantly R1b
>The oldest Indo-European speakers aka the Hittites were R1b
>The Hittites Laws and the Frankish laws are similar
>>R1b isn't Indo-Europeans

>>73242386
read up von Moltke and cry like a bitch, sub-human kraut.

>>73242423
The Yamnaya, Hittites and Franks weren't Old Europe and Kurgan is pretty much used as a synonym for Indo-European.

>>73242423
>oldest Indo-European speakers aka the Hittites were R1b
Only butthurt Mediterraneans buy into the Anatolian hypothesis

>>73242279
You do realize that the blonde and blue eyed meme definition was only invented by the nazis to boast their own ego right? And the ancients who invented and used the term barely had any blondes among them.

>>73242404
>Matter of fact is that R1b didn't really exist in Western Europe prior to the end of the Neolithic.
>using the neolithic as time period
Oh, so I'm talking to a fake, good to know.

>>73242477
Who are from mecklenburg untermensch.

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>>73242516
No need to go ancient.

Just look at the people that claimed they're Aryan.

Hun, Italian/Jew, Jew, Hun/Italian, Jew.
>>73242540
>mecklenburg
You mean Pomorze Przednie?

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>>73242516
The ancient Indo-Iranians who "invented" the term Aryans were actually quite fair-haired.

>>73242325
Only with aR1an technology could R1berians overtake the Etruscans. >>73241911
Prove me wrong (you cannot)

>>73242540

3rd millenium BC then.
Before that all Western Europeans belonged to I2 and G mainly and definitely not the kurgan R1b.
This is basic stuff pretty much everyone in this thread knows except you.

>>73242596
You can't even prove yourself right.

>>73242619
>and definitely not the kurgan R1b
R1a is Kurgan, for fucks sake man its even in the OP meme pic.

>>73242660
R1a and R1b are both "Kurgan". R1b was the dominant haplogroup in Yamnaya.

>>73242660
I'm wondering why are you so mad and acting like you understand anything? Fact is 99% of R1b in Europe today is R1b-m269 which is steppe derrived, save for some R1b-V88 in Iberia which is from North Africa.

>>73242592
>Based on a handful of samples
dig out any ancient zoroastrian grave, sample the DNA if it can be salvaged and it will almost certainly have light brown to black hair

>>73242759
Both those samples and the term Aryan precede Zoroastrianism.

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>>73242759

>>73242724
>R1a and R1b are both "Kurgan".
"Kurgan" isn't a real culture, its a hypothetical carrier of indo-european cultural substrate into europe. R1b predates indo-european arrival, this is basic and common knowledge. You LARPers need to fuck off back to /his/ with your nonsense.

>>73240477
Are you more blond than average Pole?

>>73242860

This was the mainstream view 5 years ago. It's not anymore. R1b was found in Yamna and R1b heavy populations like Irish and Scots are genetically quite mixed with Yamna(~40%).

>>73242860
>"Kurgan" isn't a real culture
Kurgans were used by many cultures, but "Kurgan" is often used as a simple way to refer to the Proto-Indo-European culture of the steppe.

>R1b predates indo-european arrival
Yes, but not the R1b subclades that dominate Europe today. They only appeared in Europe the LN/BA. Pre-Indo-European R1b in Europe is negligible and even before the Indo-Europeans it was scant outside of Eastern Europe..

This thread proves that krauts are autistic and get baited easily. You really deserve the terrorists attacks lmao I'm glad you're dying xD

P.S I love communism and islam

>>73242860
This nigga, lashing out at people who actually try to educate him.

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>even Germans put Herules, Lygians aka Lugii and Vandals in the 'Slav' category
How can you even recover after it?

>>73242860

There is literally little if no R1b in Europe before the Copper period,
>Paleolithic Europe
Mainly G, E, I, T
Only one R1b in Italy and one in Russia
>Mesolithic Europe
Mainly G, E, I, T
Only one R1b in Russia and Two in Latvia
>Neolithic Europe
Mainly G, E, I, T
One R1b in Spain and Germny
>Copper and Bronze Ages Europe
Mainly R1a and R1b and

see
http://www.ancestraljourneys.org/copperbronzeagedna.shtml

Deal with it, R1b is IE

>>73243431
>be super powerful Slavic Ubermenschen
>conquer as far west as the Elbe
>get assimilated and pushed all the way back past Pomerania and the Oder by German Untermenschen
????

>>73243528
>Only one R1b in Italy and one in Russia
Also in Latvia.

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>>73243534
>It is not well known that barely a century ago, Prussia, with its then predominantly Slav population, was not considered a German state at all; though its kings, who as princes of Brandenburg were ‘Electors’ of the German Empire, were considered German princes. At the Congress of Vienna, Prussia was registered as a ‘Slav kingdom’; and in 1830 Hegel still spoke52 even of Brandenburg and Mecklenburg as being populated by ‘Germanized Slavs

Did proto-uralics and proto-poles fight a lot?

>>73243569

Old Prussians were Balts though.
Not half Balt, half Slavs even. Straight up Balts with tons of N1c which they passed on to Krauts.

>>73243611
Completely different time periods

>>73243431
>meanwhile Vandals spoke a Germanic language and 2/3rds of their ydna was non R1a
>poles are still desperate to be connected to them

>>73243627
>which they passed on to Krauts.
Don't forget the Poles :^)
They have more N1c than Germans

>>73243649
But before they conquered europe did they fight a lot?

>>73243650
see >>73240073
>>73243627
True. But. Most of the families from "Prussian" aristocracy came from Eastern Germany and Greater Poland.

>>73243686
Source?

>>73243686
Poles are hypocrites, freak out how Germans have R1a while Pols have higher rates of R1b than Germans have R1a

>>73243650
>>73243698
Also, not really desperate.
It's just a fact that their women got SLAV'd.
>>73243771
Source?

R1b isn't Germanic. And besides. Germans have as much Slavic R1a as they have l1.

>>73243689
Not sure what you mean. If you're talking about Proto-Indo-Europeans and Proto-Uralics, then yeah they would have fought a fair bit.

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>>73243736

>>73243866
proto-aryan yes, well in what circumstances exactly?

>>73243771
It most likely come from the Lugii who were a Celtic tribe found both in Scottland and Poland, and from the Sennones who are a Celtic tribes found both in France and Eastern Germany

>>73243919
>Sennones

I mean Semnones.

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>>73243907
Most likely Baltic region.

http://www.gwozdz.org/Results.html#ResultsTable

>>73243806
>their women got Slavd
This is just polish fantasies because of butthurt after occupation and oppression. The fact that poles always try and say this just reveals feelings of sexual frustration and inadequacy and their part

>R1b isn't Germanic
It is, Germanic people are descendants of the Bell beaker and Corded Ware cultures which were R1b and R1a respectively. There was just a linguistic study released connecting them to it. For some reason people like to think only I1 is Germanic when the entire culture and language mostly has a indo European source

>>73243984
>This is just polish fantasies because of butthurt after occupation and oppression. The fact that poles always try and say this just reveals feelings of sexual frustration and inadequacy and their part
No, it has been proven.

R1b isn't germanic. >>73243919

>>73243866

Just like niggers mostly shoot each other so did PIE mostly kill each other because they interacted far less with distant tribes

>>73243858
>germanic
>worried facial expression as he witnesses his wife getting BLACKED
>skinny, his wife's bull hogs all the food in the house
>beard, very unproffesional he most likely is an indie artist or has some other non-carreer

Slav
>look of contempt and contemplation as he thinks about downfall the west brought upon itself
>healthy looking
>clean shaved, a man well adjusted to society

>>73243919
Nah it's from Trojan or Atlantis, maybe Hypoborean

>>73243910
Idk, I guess generic tribal warfare as would be normal for the time.Given the presence of R1a in Finnic populations and the influence of Indo-Aryan langauges on Finnic languages and vice-versa, there was probably a sustained period of contact with a fair amount of mixing, warfare, enslavement, etc, but that's normal.

>>73244014
Dude you're quoting some teenage troll who spends all day on /his/ and /int/ we wuzzing about French being Trojans and crying about Germans. That doesn't help your argument

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>>73244049
Educate yourself, retard

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>all this autism itt
Jesus Christ

>>73244100
I know who you are and I won't waste my time on you, dear 1/64 german ancestry "friend".


Vandals were SLAV'd. And there is nothing you can do about it. Keep crying. Proto-Slavshits from Corded Ware came to Poland and East Germany first.

Don't even try your cuck mental gymnastics. I'm not interested.

>>73244169
>vandals were Slavd
Kek, more like Slavs were Vandald. Or else Vandals would have spoke a Slavic language and been 2/3rds R1a, but it's the complete opposite

>>73244223
Is that why over a third of Vandalic MALE lineages were R1a?

Like I said. Mental gymnastics won't change anything. Keep bitching.

>>73244257
Welll considering how R1a is native to the Germanic people through the corded aware and already reached 25 percent in some parts of Scandinavia it's really not that odd especially since they settled in East Europe.

>>73244325
>R1A
>native to germanics
>that's why there is so few people with R1a in germanic countries

retard

>>73244325
Considering you're fucking retarded and can't read I will spell it out to you once more.

You're ready?
>Over a third of MALE Vandalic lineages were of Proto-Slavic origin, subclade of R1a was M458, the most common among modern-day Poles and brought to Poland during Corded Ware expansion.

Get it now?

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>>73240011
So why do Poles freak out about that tiny R1a sliver in Germany when R1b in Poland is much larger?

>>73244397

What if this just means that Poles are Vandalic and should unite with Germania?

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>For haplogroup R1b, we identified a previously unstudied “eastern” branch, R1b-GG400, found in East Europeans and West Asians and forming a brother clade to the “western” branch R1b-L51 found in West Europeans. The ancient samples from the Yamnaya archaeological culture are located on this eastern branch, showing that the paternal descendants of the Yamnaya population – in contrast to the published autosomal findings - still live in the Pontic steppe and were not an important source of paternal lineages in present-day West Europeans.

>>73244364
>>73244397
Older R1a samples have been found in Germany than in Poland, the Germanic people are descended from the Corded Ware who were R1a but /int/ struggles with History beyond 500bc

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>>73240477
>When people today speak of aryans they mean blonde blue eyed people

When people today speak of Germans they mean sand niggers.

>>73244424
It means Eastern Germany should be ceded to Pooland.
But not with the shitskins it has in Berlin.

>The castle of Brandenburg, which had been a fortress of the Slavic tribe Stodoranie, was conquered in 929 by King Henry the Fowler. It was first mentioned as Brendanburg in 948. That the name of the city in the local Slavic language was Brennabor, a combination of two words brenna - defense and bor - fort, is an invention of the 17th century. The town remained German only until 983, when a Slavic rebellion was successful. During the next 170 years the area was ruled by Slavic princes of the Hevelli tribe. The last of them, Pribislav, died in 1150. From 1153/1154 to 1157 Brendanburg was part of the Slavonic Duchy of Kopanica, a fief of Poland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_an_der_Havel
>>73244455
Does it change what I've said though?
Keep baiting. I won't even bother anymore, since you're clearly mentally challenged.

>>73244455
>Older R1a samples have been found in Germany than in Poland, the Germanic people are descended from the Corded Ware who were R1a but /int/ struggles with History beyond 500bc
maybe because they were brought to Germany and Poland in 2800BC?

>>73244504
I'm not bating, the issue is just too sensitive for you to properly discuss

>>73244575
Exactly

>>73244454
Sure

Western Europe magically went from mainly E-G-I-T to R1b, and the Italo-Celtic langages fell from Heaven just like that.

>>73244612
There is nothing to discuss.
M458 is more common in Poland than it is in Germany.
Male lineages of Vandals were mostly M458. They came from Scandinavia(not from Germany), their women got fucked by Proto-Slavs who were M458 carriers.

And that's all. No need to do mental gymnastics here.

>>73244687
>Male lineages of Vandals were mostly M458
After they came to modern-day Poland as refugees of course.

From that point they went South and according to Gregory of Tours came back to Pooland once they got fucked by the Romans in North Africa.

>>73244687
>M458 is more common in Poland than it is in Germany.
Because Slavs have only corderd ware heritage while Germanic people are a hybrid culture with Bell beaker and pre indo european origin

>Male lineages of Vandals were mostly M458.
Less than a third, you act like it was 100 percent and it's not odd at all

>They came from Scandinavia(not from Germany), their women got fucked by Proto-Slavs who were M458 carriers.
Fantasy based off your sexual frustration, kek. It's really weird when you start saying things like this

>>73244636
I'm seeing here you all the time I sometimes even wonder how do you even have mental capacity to function as human being. What that study is suggesting that direct line from Eastern Yamnaya population still reside in that area and R1b in Europe is from different lineage but related lineage, do you understand now retard?

>>73244811
Like I said.
Mental gymnastics.
Germanics = German is a XIX century propaganda move.

Read up Adam of Bremenand cry.
That's all from me since you ignore everything.

>>73244687

What actually happened was that the island of Gotland was overpopulated and they decided to send the women to Finland(Finnish word for mother comes from Gothic) and the men to Poland, but in Poland they were still a small minority.

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>>73244880
>almost all bronze age samples of R1a is from modern germanic countries
>n-nope it can only be from slavs!
>m-mental gymnastics, dont ruin my sexual fantasies with science!

>>73244884
>and the men to Poland
So "we" got the germanic men pregnant? lmao

>>73244917
Is assimilation a non-existent concept to you? Or does everything have to fit into some kind of cuck fantasy?

>>73244917

No you were influenced by them culturally and linguistically

You have 8% I1 btw

>>73244916
I'm glad you said modern germanic countries.

You just debunked your own theory in your own post, my dear less-fortunate in brain activity friend.

>tfw no slav girl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7wICm4Kuhw

>>73244862
>Try to degitimate the Western Europeans by saying that they weren't the PIE but a sub-branch of them
>muh you're a retard if you think that it is against you

Fuck off

>>73244957
>No you were influenced by them culturally and linguistically
Proofs?

Przeworsk which is associated with Vandals is considered to be a Proto-Slavic culture, just like Lusatian one.

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>>73244975
>gets btfo
>resorts to ad hominem
hmmm

>>73245007

Considered by who? Polish experts?

Goths and Vandals were East Germanic speaking.

>>73244982
My fucking god, learn to read you fucking monkey brain.

>. The ancient samples from the Yamnaya archaeological culture are located on this eastern branch, showing that the paternal descendants of the Yamnaya population – in contrast to the published autosomal findings - still live in the Pontic steppe and were not an important source of paternal lineages in present-day West Europeans.


YOU DUMB NIG this is suggesting that direct descendans of Yamnaya R1b still live in the area of Pontic Steppe and R1b in Europe is from a different but related branch. CWC was R1a but they're autosomally were indistinguishable from Yamnaya, do you understand now pea brain retard? No one is suggesting that R1b in Europe is not from steppe.

>>73245007
Lusations arent even considered to be proto-slavic. I study Slavic Culture and my Polish professor even admitted they were not, the Lusations had knowledge of metallurgy and constructions way advanced beyond the slavs that they're considered a distinct people

>>73245041

Canary islands?

>>73245069
The very fucking name Przeworks is hardly germanic.

>>73240267
It's not really rapes, it's probably marriages and such.

>hur dur we wuz rapizst and shieeet
>ey, fuck you russian animol for rapings one trillion poles slaughtered in forest nevr forgit

/int/ is truly the worst.

>>73245105
Yes, which is pretty interesting

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>>73245041
You're missing a lot of new samples.

>>73245128

Yeah and it's also not 2300 years old.
Stop having such a complex about your slightly Gotlandic heritage.

>>73245176
I'm sure it is, luckily new studies are coming out rapidly every year

>>73245242
Here is the study about the Canary Islands btw, all of it before spanish settlement

http://download.springer.com/static/pdf/525/art%253A10.1186%252F1471-2148-9-181.pdf?originUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fbmcevolbiol.biomedcentral.com%2Farticle%2F10.1186%2F1471-2148-9-181&token2=exp=1491483794~acl=%2Fstatic%2Fpdf%2F525%2Fart%25253A10.1186%25252F1471-2148-9-181.pdf*~hmac=60ef999c9f99b21a336843d892e1ddea309d539f065c9d86071cf3cae3957748

10 percent R1b

>>73245090
>still live in the Pontic steppe and were not an important source of paternal lineages in present-day West Europeans.
>were not an important source of paternal lineages in present-day West Europeans.

Which is what i have said, they're theory is that Western Euros aren't the PIE but a sub-branch related to them while Mongolo-Russians are the PIE.

Also there is literally no R1b left in Russia(6.7%), Russians are just mongol rape babies and should cease to try to steal OUR ancestors.

Chad fucks your oneitis while you argue about haplogroups on a Faroese rune forum.

Really makes one think.

>he's gone
Too bad he will be back next week posting the same bullshit propaganda

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>it's another haploretard chimpout thread

>>73245348
Literal retard unable to comprehend simple words.

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>>73245382
>has excessive pride in his paternal haplogroup
>won't even contribute to the continuation of it
Made me think

>>73245438
It's literally only two posters, we could discuss some pretty cool shit if they would just stop chimping out

>>73245492

Polygamy is really the only way to make sure your haplogroup gets passed on.
With birth rates being what they are the vast majority of men won't have haplogroup descendants in 5 generations.

>>73245481
Fuck off cuck


The PIE went to Europe, the R1b in Russia are mostly from Eurasian Turco-Mongols tribes like the Bashkirs and the Tatars, they have nothing to do with the PIE.

>>73245566
Polygamy reduces the supply of available women though, so if you are lucky enough to be alpha then your haplogroup will surely get passed on, but if you are a beta, then you still get nothing.

>>73245559
Like what? What can you possibly discuss with a yank? The best places to get shot in?

>>73240011
Spain not artan topkek

>>73245492
>talks about protecting the beauty of the white woman
>not even ethnic shitskin women look his way
>is invinsible to prime women due to being an ugly autist
Really makes me think. Don't you agree, friend?

I often wonder what our r1 ancestors would say if they saw these threads

>>73245624
>The PIE went to Europe, the R1b in Russia are mostly from Eurasian Turco-Mongols tribes like the Bashkirs and the Tatars, they have nothing to do with the PIE.

Solid and sourced argumentation right there.

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>>73245710
I agree. I would never do anything that pathetic haha

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>>73245714
>>73245714
>>73245714

>>73245714
>>73245714
>>73245714

Okay I created a formal thread, honestly I'm interested to hear more about the Lithuanians opinions on R1b and how it was brought to europe

>>73245724

h2áu̯ei̯ h1i̯osméi̯ h2u̯l̥h1náh2 né h1ést, só h1éḱu̯oms derḱt. só gʷr̥hₓúm u̯óǵʰom u̯eǵʰed; só méǵh2m̥ bʰórom; só dʰǵʰémonm̥ h2ṓḱu bʰered. h2óu̯is h1ékʷoi̯bʰi̯os u̯eu̯ked: “dʰǵʰémonm̥ spéḱi̯oh2 h1éḱu̯oms-kʷe h2áǵeti, ḱḗr moi̯ agʰnutor”. h1éḱu̯ōs tu u̯eu̯kond: “ḱludʰí, h2ou̯ei̯! tód spéḱi̯omes, n̥sméi̯ agʰnutór ḱḗr: dʰǵʰémō, pótis, sē h2áu̯i̯es h2u̯l̥h1náh2 gʷʰérmom u̯éstrom u̯ept, h2áu̯ibʰi̯os tu h2u̯l̥h1náh2 né h1esti. tód ḱeḱluu̯ṓs h2óu̯is h2aǵróm bʰuged

>>73245724
They would probably be doing the opposite of what we're doing, trying to prove that we aren't their descendants.

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>>73245787
>tfw semi-ironically have a gf and a fwb
>tfw used to think that any of this shit on /int/ matters
It's not that bad, but I still sometimes feel the gall of my ancesdors :-DDD

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>>73245771
Russians are 5.8% R1b while Yamna was mainly R1b, which clearly show a discontinuity

>Haplogroup R1b (Y-DNA) – 0% to 14%, with an average of 5.8%
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Russians


And finally, the so PIE descendants are in fact Mongolic Steppe niggers

>Regarding Y-DNA haplogroups genetic studies have revealed that most Bashkir males belong to haplogroup R1b (R-M269 and R-M73) which is, on average, found at the frequency of 47,6%.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bashkirs#Genetics
BTFO

>>73245931
>the so PIE descendants

so called*

>>73245894
Good on you lad. Just make sure you pass on your R1 haplogroup ;^)

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>>73246053
I'm obviously a N1c tundra-gook, haha whitu piggu.

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>>73245438
b-but my haploshit is superior to your haploshit

>>73246143
R1 is objectively superior though tbf.

>>73243858
t. butthurt Paleonigger

>>73244223
>Note that about half of all R1a in Italy, south-west France and Spain is CTS1211, meaning that it was very probably brought by the Visigoths and Ostrogoths. The Goths, although originally from southern Sweden and north-east Germany, had lived for several centuries in Poland and Ukraine before moving into the Roman Empire (starting with the Balkans), and appear to have absorbed local Proto-Slavic populations.

>>73246053
Why would you pass on your haplogroup if you're genetically inferior? A 200 cm tall robust N1c1 man is more worthy of reproduction than an ugly, swarthy R1b manlet.

>>73247557
Likewise a 200cm tall robust R1b man is more worthy of reproduction than an an ugly, Mongolic N1c manlet.

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>>73247373

>>73248303
Stop moving goalposts, your assertation was that one should reproduce to pass on his haplogroup. Sounds like something a genetically inferior individual would say.

>>73248487
The face indicated that it was a joke, do you have autism?

>>73248512
All this forced memery surrounding something that barely has an impact on one's autosomal makeup would seem to indicate that the person forcing it is a genetically inferior individual. Therefore it can be concluded that you are genetically inferior, and take pride in a tiny sequence of DNA that unfortunately doesn't impact your ugly inbred islander phenotype.

>>73248658
I actually have a Baltic-tier phenotype thanks to Balto-Slavic ancestry but whatever

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>>73248391
60-70% of finns look like that.

>>73240011
Kek, Niemcy

>>73245388
I didn't go anywhere. I simply stopped responding to trash.
Germanic niggers weren't original inhabitants of the Polish territory.
And nothing will change that, no amount of propaganda from Himmlers ass.

Lusatian culture and Trzciniec culture are considered to be Proto-Slavic. Not Germanic.

For some reason the source >>73240594
is ignored by the great "scholars" ITT. Maybe because it literally debunks XIX-XX century pan-german thesis.

>>73248730
Post pics

t. other

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>>73252342
here is "she"

The most autistic thread in history of /int/ krauts, americunts and polocks should collectively drink bleach.

>>73252565
Balts are closer to Proto-Indo-Europeans than Swedecucks, so jealous Paleo-nigger admixed Germanics made up lies about them looking like that.

>>73252342
My pics will be abused and posted everywhere, so I can't do that m8

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>itt: descendents of warlike pastoral steppe fathers and native euro mothers autistically sling shit at each other

>>73253209
censor your eyes

>>73252948
the Finns deserve a mention as well

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>>73253339
I looked through my phenotypes folder and I guess this pic is pretty close, although I am less of a Khan.

reading arguments between people with no personal achievements sperg about their racial superiority is p comfy.

>>73241623
Yes.

Wow Spain is whiter than us, now i see

Why Western Europeans are such subhuman, like the Arabs?

>>73255950
t. Khan

>>73255181
just like americans