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Traditionally France has considered its values universal, not particular to its country. Freedom, equality, fraternity, democracy. It has exerted this strain of philosophy ever since the Enlightenment, whether it's the French Revolution, Napoleonic Europe, French colonialism.
The American CIA is the most Francofied government department in the USA. It deposed Communist-leaning governments and replaces them with either Democratic ones or at the very least non-Communist dictators (depending on the level of social development in the country). It (and military advisors) were present in Korea before the war, in order to ensure Democracy survived in some form. It (and military advisors) did the same to Vietnam, which previously was France's attempt at spreading universal democratic values to Southeast Asia. The former failed halfway, the latter failed completely. But the CIA tried.
In modern times the USA has invaded Iraq based on the neoconservative concept of universal democratic freedoms. The CIA also fanned the flames of dissent toward dictatorship in North Africa, which ultimately resulted in the Arab Spring. The same occurred in Ukraine, which prompted Russia to invade the country to ensure access to warm water ports (which a democratic Ukrainian government likely wouldn't grant). Naturally both of those attempts failed in a spectacular fashion, with Islamists and ISIS controlling large parts of MENA and Russia has demolished Ukraine.
So tell me /int/
What truly separates the USA and France? Both countries presuppose universal values and try to spread them with the carrot and the stick. It's roughly the same philosophy, too. Both countries are so arrogant to believe that they have discovered the pinnacle of human government and operate on the assumption that they must spread this government style across the entire globe.
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fuck off ouiaboo
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fuck off ouiaboo
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>>73217094
*licks*
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>>73217094
>>73217121
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>>73216838
Well universalism was really dumb and now that's a cancer we will never get ride off.
The only reason France was the first to imagine and implement modern democracy is because there no equivalent, anywhere. Trying to propagate our ideas to other countries and people was really dumb because they aren't intellectually up to scratch.
Given the current state of affairs of our very country our main goal atm should be ethnic and cultural cleansing within our borders
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>>73217094
what about ouyaboo?
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>>73217212
>Given the current state of affairs of our very country our main goal atm should be ethnic and cultural cleansing within our borders
-t. Alain Soral
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>>73216838
Why do you think we can't agree on anything internationally ? We both think we're the model every country should follow
> It's roughly the same philosophy, too
In form but not in substance. France always had a strong and centralized government.
France just used to be at the center of the world stage and now US took France's place, but now we can boast that we're an old country with experience to be a bit relevant.
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>>73217527
>Why do you think we can't agree on anything internationally ?
Because both Americans and French are arrogant
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>>73217294
>Alain "a good muslim is better than a bad native" Soral
>Wanting to ethnically cleanse France
Fook off you burger fucker. I'll slit your throat and fuck your ancestors brain.
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>>73217586
Exactly, like I said, we all see ourselves are "a beacon of civilization" (heck, the US president is called the leader of the Free world)
We don't have that humility the Brits have concerning our place in modern geo politics.
Even during the cold war, France tried with all her might to be "the Third Way" and trying to be neither Washington's nor Moscow puppets, like Germany was.
So yeah, France and the US are similar in a way that we both want to be center stage. Except one is 60kg and the other is 300 kg
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>>73216838
>Traditionally
>France has considered its values universal
FUCK THE REPUBLIC
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>>73217800
>FUCK THE REPUBLIC
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>>73217212
t.Louis-Ferdinand Céline
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>>73217933
Celine was a cuck and a coward
What we need is a Saint Louis or a Joan of Arc
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>>73217800
Fuck off, even without a kingless republic, we'd have had a constitutional or Parliamentary republic like the rest of Europe did.The values of Universalism was already quite well established in the communities which would have power.
The republic is a symptom of the universalist values of the time, not its cause.
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>>73216838
>universal values
Not anymore
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>>73218005
>What we need is a Saint Louis
DONE
DEAL IS SEALED
TAKE IT, REVERSE LOUISIANA PURCHASE
FREE OF CHARGE, TRANSACTION COMPLÉTE
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>>73217586
>he finally admitted it
are you ill or something?
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>>73217212
>Well universalism was really dumb and now that's a cancer we will never get ride off.
Why did France arrive at universalism in the first place?
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>>73218005
>tfw no qt joan of arc gf
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>>73218233
>Paris
>France
HA
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>>73218040
>Fuck off, even without a kingless republic, we'd have had a constitutional or Parliamentary republic like the rest of Europe did
The Free Masons are behind the Republic and the Universalism maymay, if we want to get rid of them, we need a Divine Right Monarchy
>The values of Universalism was already quite well established in the communities which would have power.
Bullshit
The whole point of the The Terror and the Vendean Genocide was to force the French to submit to the Universalism maymay
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>>73218005
why was there so much cucking in journey to the end of the night
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ITT : des français qui s'imaginent qu'ils ont encore de l'influence dans le monde
haha les gars j'ai de la peine pour vous
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France, get your sovereignty back, kick out the migrants, then make more baroque/beaux-arts neoclassical things please. Sick of all the post-modern marxist art and culture everywhere
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>>73221467
>Neoclassical
>When rococo exists
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>>73222270
Rococo is late baroque my friend. I like all those styles.
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>>73222624
Neo classical is the used whore of architecture. A travesty of style with style but no substance.
Glad you can appreciate rococo tho
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>>73222764
I prefer baroque, rococo, beaux-arts, and I'd love a gothic renaissance (in England), but neoclassical is great too. And I don't only mean the architecture.
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Why are so many Americans Ouiaboos?
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>>73217628
He's just objective that's all.
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>>73222998
The United States is classically a country with European origins. For much of the United States' history, most people came from Italy, England, Ireland, Germany, and France. In its cultural renaissance starting in the 1890's, ending with the great depression, much of the United States' culture was derived from these countries at their greatest heights.
Also, we've been allies for decades, we've shared similar values, and we face very similar problems today.
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>>73218173
Louis IX you retard
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>>73218233
because they smell terrible, are rude and cowardly and their houses are disgusting.
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>>73217527
>to be a bit relevant.
that's a mighty understatement for the #1 tourist location in the world.
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fuck france, long live england
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>>73228239
can you be more of a boot licking ouiaboo?
france will always be third fiddle in europe, second at the VERY best.
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>>73228290
>friendship ended with United Kingdom now my friend is France
Can't all three of us team up again and rule the world
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>Traditionally France has considered its values universal, not particular to its country. Freedom, equality, fraternity, democracy. It has exerted this strain of philosophy ever since the Enlightenment, whether it's the French Revolution, Napoleonic Europe, French colonialism.
You know that these values destroyed us ?
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>>73222624
>liking rococo architecture
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>tfw no french/american general
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>>73228840
Make some neogothic architecture Nigel
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it's funny since France is the more anti-american country of europe
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>>73229009
shhhh quiet. or a certain someone in this thread will have their heart broken
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>>73229009
They're also the more anti-French country of Europe.
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>>73229347
True
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>>73218451
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>>73228311
Too bad Germany banned the only method of culture and government in modern history that made you absolutely thrive.
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>>73228840
Rococo exteriors are simple but alright. Rococo interiors are quite good.
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>>73228921
>/fra/
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>>73216838
>What truly separates the USA and France?
The Atlantic Ocean.
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>>73222998
Because we have always been friends (except for that one weird time during the révolution)
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>>73229347
This
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