This is the only solution to stop the eternal Spaniard

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Two options Spain

1. >OP's pic
2. >my pic

>>73097760
>>73097823
Galicia here, you have my support
We must put an end to the tirany of the eternal castillian

>>73097760
I like this solution a lot. Solves 90% of the British citizens living abroad issue, too.

>>73097823
I like the second option. Can you please point this option to Sevilla?

>>73097760
real question here
would catalonia be okay with joining France

>>73097760
pls liberate Leon too

>>73097930
Not really
Galiza and portugal might work though

>>73097760
Catalonia should be independent.

So should Aragon and Leon and anything else I can think of.

Fuck C*stille.

>>73097936
Oh and Asturias

>>73097760
ESPAÑA ES UNA Y GRANDE

etc.

>>73097760
>Andalusia is no longer part of Spain
That compensates the rest desu, I'm ok with this
But I wouldn't say that is a good trade for you

>>73097760
Basically just nuke C*stille and let us all go our separate ways

>>73097760
Where do I sign up?

>>73097930
No, but the rest of Spain would.

We've been trying for decades to wipe out their culture, we should let the French do it instead, since you are the masters of destroying minority cultures.

In fact OP pic is closer to what Spaniards want than what Spain's enemies want

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>>73097930
NI ESPANYA NI FRANÇA

GAVATXOS MENJA-GRANOTES DE MERDA, SOU UNA COLLA DE DEGENERATS QUE CARDEU ENTRE GERMANS

COLLA DE BOTIFLERS XARRUPA-CARGOLS

NI AFRICANS ESPANYOLS NI MICOS FRANCESOS

PEL TIMBALER DEL BRUC

SOM CATALANS

>>73097760
And don't forget about making the Canary Islands berber again

>>73097760
>Andalusia
>Part of the United Kingdom

N E V E R

>>73098060
> t. Oriol Andreu Sánchez García

>>73098059
We haven't done that in a while though, not sure we're too good at it anymore, especially since we can't even integrate our shitskins

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>>73098154
Andalusia rightfully belongs to Morocco

>>73098060
what did we ever do to you

>>73098205
Fuck you off anglo saxon. I´d rather living in an independent andalusia which would be Somalia tier country than being part of the Cuckistan Kaliphate.

Sure, wed give the Catalan the same kind of nice treatment we gave to the Occitan :)

Ke paguen los gallegos brutos por el horo que nos robaron

>>73098305
Do you have some kind of final solution about the catalan question?

>>73098290
>Americans are Anglo-Saxon

why are spaniards so ignorant

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>>73098060
mfw understand everything without taking spanish classes

>>73098219
>In the school of Camélas in Northern Catalonia, a former pupil reports,[19]

>Everyone but the teacher's children spoke Catalan among themselves. We'd even get punished for that, because at the time, we all had to speak French. Be Clean, Speak French could be found written on the school's walls. And if you refused to speak French, they'd give you some sort of wooden sign to wear until death came, as we said, which meant the last offender, in the evening, had twenty lines to copy. We'd speak French in the schoolyard, and for the first ten metres of the way back home, for as long as we thought the teacher would overhear us, and then we'd switch back to our own mother tongue, Catalan.

>In those times, Catalan speakers were rather despised. My generation associated speaking Catalan with a disadvantage, with being less than the others, with running the risk of being left behind on the social ladder, in short with bringing trouble.

>>73098305
This. The frogs would make speaking Catalan punishable by guillotine

>>73098378
Forced assimilation : they talk french or we cut off their tongues.

>>73098389
USA is part of the Anglosphere so they may not be racially anglos but they are culturally anglos.

Las Canarias son Peruanas.

>>73098490
that was a few centuries ago

nowadays you are all cucks who bend over for mohammed's dick

we catalans will destroy you french homosexuals

>>73098433
it was just banter

>>73098572
>Implying you are not even more faggot than gabachos.

>>73098681
learn 2 english, manolo

>>73098706
>needing to learn another language
Im not some kind of catalan

>>73098769
Spoken like a true anglo

>>73098706
Fuck off Scatalonian. Go to suck´s mohammed dick. You know very well how to do it.

>tfw 1/4 spaniard
feels good man

>>73098769
Spoken like a true manolo
>>73098906
I would tell you to suck mohammed's dick, but you would just be sucking your own dick, semitic spaniard

I wanna smell a Spanish womans bum

>>73098923
that makes you whiter than most americans 2bh

>>73099018
Join her majesty's army and you'll be able to

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>>73098987
>kikelonians
>Talking about semitic blood
Literally, a jewish community inside Spain.

>>73099132
>he shows the most charnego man in catalonia to prove his point

manolo logic

>>73099132
>posts pic of Berto Romero
literally a spanish/gipsy surname

>>73099307
>literally a spanish/gipsy surname

Like the average cucktalonian

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A Spanish person in a hostel in Scotland told me Spain isn't a country but like 7 little countries forced into one big country. I'm not exaggerating he got mad when I said he was Spanish.

>>73099650
where did he claim to be from?

>>73099650
> Spain isn't a country but like 7 little countries forced into one big country
This is kinda true desu

>>73099694
I can't remember, he was cool though. He was decked out in gold jewelry.

>>73097760

>no colony of greater benidorm

>>73099650
He was not lying.

>>73097760
I agree with this map.

Free Basque Country!

Freedom to my Basque people!

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>>73099807
>>73099877
What's with this mentality?

>>73099913
You don't speak a word of euskera do you

>>73099926
The eternal castillian likes to deny it, but Spain is almost as artificial as Austria-Hungary

>>73099926
Spain is a coallition of Kingdoms, just like "United Kingdom"
The only kingdom that did not unite was the Kingdom of Portugal
the thing with spain is that they wanted to identify every possible territory so they made whole 17 different autnomous communities wich is extremelly dumb and unnefficient

>>73100339
>>73099972
Then explain why the Baleares and Valencia totally refuse the idea of a Catalan country. I highly doubt that a regular spaniard doesn't feel spanish in the XXI century m8s.

>>73097760
The better question is: how do I profit from this?

>>73101142
They tend to conflate Spanish with Iberian a lot. Those are distinct things and they stand for different things too.

>>73103597
>conflate Spanish with Iberian a lot
Hispania is latin for Iberia though. Blame Castille for abusing it.

>>73103696
Hispania isn't the same as Spain though. Everyone in the peninsula feels Hispanic/Iberian/whatever you wish to call the feeling of being a Peninsular, however it is misleading to conflate that with being Spanish, which for better or worse has a lot of Castilian-centric and political rather than purely ethnic meaning attached to it.

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>>73097760
Why do they always do this?
Portugal is rightfully galician territory, not vice-versa.

>>73103880
>Hispania isn't the same as Spain though
Spain is obviously the english translation of Hispania. You don't seriously believe that España isn't the translation of Hispania, don't you? They took the name, but it doesn't change the fact that Hispania translates into España/Spain/Spagna in modern languages.

Anyway, I get your point even though I don't really agree about the whole castillian-centrism thing. Nowadays spanish culture has elements from all over the country. Andalusian, Catalan (As in, from Catalunya, Valencia and Baleares) and even North Spanish elements all form part of the mainstream vision that foreigners have of Spain. I dunno, from my experience, even here in Italy, we tend to exaggerate a lot differences between the various regions, but you realize how close we are once you go abroad and see bunch of southern guys together with northerners because they're, well, italians.

In countries such as the USA, the differences between the North and the South are way stronger IMO, memes aside.

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>>73103597
>>73103880
Sorry but that's 19th century nonsense. Spain was an independent state centuries before Portugal existed. In the 6th century we invaded and annexed Lusitania and then we made catholicism the official state religion.

Hispania = Spain =! Castile.

>>73099650
I'm living in a flat with a Spanish guy at the moment. Me and another guy couldn't pronounce his name, so we called him "Spanish Dave".

He got a bit offended. Thing was, he was offended by the "Spanish" part. He wants to be called "Basque Dave" instead.

Weird people.

>>73104020
The Galicians are Celts

Galicia = Gauls

>>73104020
>Portugal is rightfully galician territory
Nice bait

>>73099650
Couldn't you say the same about the UK?

Spanish girls love my big pirate cock, I get plenty of booty

>>73104166
Galicia is celt, and Leon, and Asturias, and Cantabria...

But as a kingdom, it predates Portugal.

>>73104172
Not bait. In fact, both Portugal and Galicia are rightfully Leonese territories. Suck it.

>>73099929
I guess he doesn't seeing how he didn't reply to you

>>73097760
You really are salty over some rock.
Brits have officially lost their minds.

>>73104212
>conquer land from the moors
>right leonese clay

>>73099929
>You don't speak a word of euskera do you

Do you mean Basque? No I never learned it, but we're super proud of our heritage. Basques ftw!

>>73104281
Sure, you can claim the south. But sure as hell you can't claim Galicia, which spawned you.

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>>73104111
>Hispania = Spain
No

>>73104212
Fuck off

This is why we can't get along. Fuck Spain

>>73104326
>be king
>fight mother
>galego says he spawned me
wew

>>73104101
I hope we're not going to argue about semantics, as you yourself said you get my point which I believe to have been pretty well explained.

Nowadays Madrid really is behaving a lot better in terms of what it used to be I'll give you that, but that's only due to intense regional pressure, a couple of bombings, and after centuries of Castilianization which obviously artificially inflate the similarities compared to what they would have been if there was no centralized state, so there's that too. I see that if Portugal didn't separate from the Iberian Union we would be in the exact same situation today so I am in a position to tell you those people make valid points.

Overall, I do get why there are legitimate claims for certain areas of Spain to aspire to be countries with either extreme degrees of autonomy or independence, as long as that is the will of the people.

I just don't really care about the topic on an emotional personal identification level, for example I would never accept a union with Galicia because that would be subjecting the Galicians to something that they would eventually come to regret.

>Democratic vote on matters over state-level, so far above the average person that you'd be a fool to let the general public decide on it
>May decides to go to war on her own

Common law - Not even once!

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i fixed spain

>>73104352
>>73104401
He's right though, we can't claim Galicia although it's a little too late for Galicia to claim us de jure.

Any union would have to be on de novo bilateral terms, but again I would never do this to Galicians because I am sure they would eventually come to regret uniting with us in the future after experiencing it.

>>73104352
>times spain conquered portugal (including lusitania with the visigoth and the battle of alcántara)
2
>times portugal conquered spain
0

Hispania 2 - Moortugal 0

>>73104476
An iberian confederation would be nice.

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>>73104475
Me too.

>>73104177
They wouldn't get mad if you called them a Brit though.

>>73104566
This seems likely and most Spaniards wouldn't oppose it 2bqh

>>73104566
kek

>>73104524
>An iberian confederation would be nice.
In the same post as something as idiotic as
>Hispania 2 - Moortugal 0

No thanks, we have reached the point in humanity's history where geographically small states are viable without being engulfed so I don't see the advantage of trading decision-making power with an illusory sense of relevance in the world.

break up the kingdoms

>>73104476
what galegos love us

>>73104524
>be 30,000 strong castillian, aragonese and french army
>get BTFO by a rag tag group of 6,000 portuguese and a few english longbowmen
"""Hispania""" is a disgrace

>>73104655
I wouldn't say that, although I've been to Galicia more times than I can remember and I've also never met one that dislikes us, interestingly those only seem to come out under the veil of anonymity provided by the internet where you can pretend to be someone else but oh well..

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>>73104624
Too bad. We could take back the empire and rule the world together again.

>>73104655
Everybody loves you here, it's like exotic and cool. But Galicia is Galicia, and Portugal is Portugal.

>>73104715
Meh, 30k drunken mercenaries doesn't count too much. Probably gypsies all of them. Our actual soldiers were busy doing important stuff.

>>73104728
>>73104770
they love us more than those castelhanos
also it doesn't really matter they neither need us or spain to either survive or prosper

>>73104770
>rule the world together again.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>73104770
I was under the impression we were having a serious discussion here. I don't mean to be rude here but taking back empires and such aren't realistic options.

>>73104843
Neither is Britain mouthing off to the EU unless they're absolutely 100% sure there will be no repercussions.

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>>73104770

>>73104812
I never did a census so I can't say they love us more than Castilians. They love the concept of Spain more than they love us, but they like us more than Castilians. Also they don't seem to dislike us while there are some sporadic negative sentiments about Spain but especially Castilians.

Also that fear mongering doesn't help your argument, they can obviously survive on their own provided they build a network of alliances and friendships and join the EU, which they should be doing anyway to maximize their prosperity in case of independence.

>>73104770
>Meh, 30k drunken mercenaries doesn't count too much. Probably gypsies all of them. Our actual soldiers were busy doing important stuff.
>army was literally led by the king of castille
Sure buddy

>>73104812
I'm castilian btw.

>>73104835
Of course. Iberans are the most powerful race in the world.

>>73104843
I can be serious and insert jokes, dont be an autist.

>>73104924
>join the EU
>implying that thing isn't done

>>73097930
They were part of you a couple of years and they run back to Spain cause you try to get rid of all the separatist nonsense and muhh snowflake language and things like that, just figure

>>73104899
Of course there will be repercussions and the UK did benefit more from the EU in economic terms than it will being outside the EU, but I still believe they made the correct choice in political terms and making a stand for their people.

Hopefully hostilities will be brief and we can get going on to what is truly important for preventing wars, promoting friendly relations, and all those things that the EU supposedly claims political integration helps but doesn't, it's actually economic integration that does those things.

>>73104985
i'm ok with this

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>>73104960
Leave my Basque country alone, spic!

>>73104991
I meant in a hypothetical case of an independent Galicia.

In fact, it would be in a prime position to set itself up as a tax haven, which is actually a very hard thing to do otherwise every other smaller country would be one.

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>>73105072
>spic
>slur because our accent because we can't say "speak"
>he doesn't know that castilian phonology comes almost entirely from euskera

Basques are the original spics.

>>73105087
Ok I was talking about Portugal annexing Galicia.Considering Galicia is one of the most spanish nationalist regions of the country, I doubt it'll ever have an independent state.

But my idea of a confederation would include independent fiscal system, so your idea of a tax heaven could work somehow I guess.

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>>73097760

>>73105265

Spic because you clean our houses, "Spic-and-span" you wetback!!

We Basques are superior to you beaners we are the original europeans. death to hispania!!!

>>73105265
>that castilian phonology comes almost entirely from euskera
You misspelled Latin and Arabic

>>73105343
No leaf. Euskera. I'm talking about the phonology (vowels, consonant, pronounciation etc.) The spanish language is latin with basque accent and phonemes. And yes, some words from arabic (like guitarra from qitarra, etc. which in english is guitar too)

>>73105265
I could go on and on and on talking about the relations between Galicia and Spain but I don't feel like it especially because I have posted so much here founded on historic and economic documentation, so let me just say that while the EU exists, what I would want is an independent northern Portugal that exists within the EU realm and is not in a federation with another Iberian state, this would be optimal for the region.

If the EU stops existing I will reconsider this position.

>>73104985
british tourists on the north coast?

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>>73105412

You are Roman immigrants to our peninsula. Leave now before we do something rash.

We're warning you.

>>73105471
what a shitty culture

>>73105471
Iberians were here before, and probably the language was very closely related to basque.

You just happen to have preserved the language (with some modern additions), because your region was too irrelevant for the romans and also because we fought the moors back.

>>73105420
If Portugal splits, it's done. Dunno how that would be beneficial for you.

Also if would be impossible for it to join the EU, unless the other part agrees.

>>73105617
It would be beneficial but for me to prove that to you using objective numbers and considerations would take a lot of posts and digging through my data folders and I'm not in the mood.

Let me just tell you there are ways to force a smaller country to accept the EU's will as long as the payoff is enticing enough for the EU.

>>73105426
You'll get sunburned anywhere else

>>73105712
I meant, that the country already member agrees. E. g., if Catalonia seceedes (which is factually impossible, but lets imagine), the EU coudn't accept it inside the EU even if they wanted, because Spain would simply say no.

>>73097760
No asshole, the eternal anglo is the enemy of everyones.

>>73105869
You can't force Spain to lift the veto, but you can force smaller countries, is what I am trying to say here.

I would love to have this discussion another time but I have to sleep, see ya

>>73105931
This

>>73098614
haha

I never realized how much of Spain hates each other until I started frequenting /int/. I don't understand the basis for any of the insults you throw at each other, but I assume it's entirely a reigonal rivalry thing.

>>73106006
I think it's just a continuation of the Spanish Civil War

All Spaniards secretly love England

>>73106050
I don't really know much about that either, other than that it happened.

>>73097930
Kek no.
Separatism is driven by oportunistic Politicians and elites who want to pay less taxes. That is all. They have the means and power to brainwash all of Catalonia to believe its a snowflake nation when in reality its like any other place, full of people who arent even ethnic Catalans. They control the education system and local media to achieve this.
Going to France would not satisfy their interests.

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>>73106006
>/int/ is truth, /int/ is life
We need to leave this place.

>>73106110
Orwell wrote a great book about it, mate. It's not even too long.

>>73106110
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05_tghbhlfM

>>73106056
England is sort of Spanish (and Portuguese might I add), you had Iberian boatmen traveling up there since before Antiquity. So it is no surprise Spaniards are wet for it.

>>73106165
WE WUZ BRITONS N SHIET

>>73097760
>Portugal takes Galicia

why do people insist on this retarded meme?
I don't think I've ever seen a single galician who hates the rest of spain or wants to separate from them.
and I seriously doubt that they'd want to be annexed by Portugal.

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>>73106184
Oh my, if it isn't my Sw*dish rival from the other thread. Why don't you leave me alone and go eat some rotten fish, lad.

>>73106247
the fuck you on about mate

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>>73106277
Oops never mind, different Sw*de

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HOW TO STOP THE ANGLO?

>>73106321
You don't

>>73106321
I see no problem here

>>73106321
impossible

The English invade even their allies

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>>73106321
>tfw we fought 4 wars against the eternal anglo and won 3 but they're so pathetic they have to cling on to the one we lost

>>73106352
People tend to remember recent wars more than anything pal

>>73106352
You mean one. You under spanish control in the 1700s

>>73106391
ok then I guess Germany didn't lose WW2 because they were under Nazi control in the 30s and 40s

So seeing how this is the Spain thread, should I visit this year when I take my Eurotrip. I plan on starting in Italy and ending in the U.K

>>73106435

Not even comparable they were the same country you and spain weren't

>>73106441
I wouldn't bother if I were you.

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Basque Country did nothing wrong

>>73106441
Barcelona, Madrid, Sevilla, and Galicia are destinations that everyone on their lifetimes should see and experiment.

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>>73106458
>1700's Argentina wasn't Argentina because it had a different name
>1940's Germany was Germany even though it had a different name

>>73106523

Different government
Different army (I doubt the guys defending you were from Buenos Aires)

>>73106546
>I doubt the guys defending you were from Buenos Aires)
they literally were though, spaniards left Buenos Aires unatended because they had trouble up north and with napoleon in Europe, civilians drove the anglos away during the british invasions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_invasions_of_the_River_Plate

>>73106488
My great-grandmother's homeland!

Long live the basques! Roman immigrants back to Rome!

Spanish Third Republic when

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>>73106441
90% of tourists just want to visit Valencia, the islands, and get drunk
if you want actualy quality visit Madrid, Galicia, a little of Andalucia...
Madrid has the best museums, and both madrid and andalucia have hundreds of interesting sites for the architecture and landmarks
I have a bunch of pictures from Galicia if you're interested

>>73106662

I can get drunk and party here. I'm interested in the history

>>73106629
>muh heritage

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>>73106700
>I'm interested in the history
What part?
>Prehistory
Cuevas de Altamria
>Pre-roman conquest
Celtic remains in Galicia and other parts of Spain
>Roman remains
Theater of Mérida, Acueduct of Segovia (pic), Wall of Lugo
>Arab remains
Andalucia in general. Cordoba's Mosque...

For general Spain history the best is probably Madrid, for both buildings and museums. The art museums are amazing.
And you can visit El Escorial without travelling a lot.

>>73106879

All of it but the arab trash.

>>73106733
We are basques, we are a different species!!

Our language descends from the Neandrathal speech

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>>73106896
/pol/ memes aside the architecture is pretty good
just skip Andalucia then i guess, but you would miss many catholic castles and relevant churches where kings where buried

>>73097760

>50% of every EU4 fames.png

>>73106927
All Europeans are 2,7% Neanderthal, so I guess I'm Basque too?

OOGA BOOGA WHERE DEM HOMOSAPIE WIMMIN AT

>>73098394
That's not Spanish

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>>73097872
>>73097936
>>73097985
>>73098031
>>73098060
>>73098111
>>73098314

Hispania, le llamaban los Romanos, Iberia los griegos, una tierra compuesta de una gente, sea de Castilla, Asturias, Cantabria, Leon, Andalucia, Valencia, Cataluña, Galicia, Portugal,

Todos Españoles, Ibericos, parte de la gran España, la tierra de la peninsula iberica.

Por lo que vuestros ancestros lucharon, por una Iberia grande y unida, mas de 700 años se lucho, algo que en el 1580 despues de cristo se completo solo para ser roto por el eterno ingles.

La Union es la fuerza, no seas tiraflechas hablando de separatismo.

Y que construyan el muro contra los guiris!

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>>73097760
Gibraltar is Spanish

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>>73106962

B-but I'm basque, I'm special, I'M THE REAL NEANDERTHAL

>>73109734
España es una MIERDA ya que nosotros los CASTELLANOS gente de bien y protectores de la fe CATÓLICA y la pureza de nuestras benditas TIERRAS tenemos que compartir estado con garrapatas ARAGONESAS,JUDEIDIZANTES CATALANES,puercos VALENCIANOS, mofetas BALEARICAS,perras VASCAS Y NAVARRAS,vacas GALLEGAS gitanos MURCIANOS,moros ANDALUCES y traidores LEONESES. Cada día rezo a San Fernando rey cruzado de estas nuestras SANTAS tierras y a DOÑA Isabel de Trastamara para que resurezcan y nos guie a la gente de BIEN, LOS CASTELLANOS, a una nueva época dorada de FE, CULTURA Y PROSPERIDAD COMO ACOSTUMBRABAMOS ANTES DE TENER QUE AGUANTAR A LA CHUSMA DE ESTA ESPAÑA SIN MORAL NI VALORES.

>>73111485
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>>73098180
difference between intergrating low iq monkeys to high iq white europeans.

be careful about southern iberia tho, loads of low iq moors there.
basques are also autists, genocide soon please

>>73116585
Pays Basque is the whitest region of France, be very careful now.

>>73106321
>England invaded Pooland
hmmmmmmmm