/lang/ - Language Learning thread

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>>72923458

http://pastebin.com/JN01tWVF
>Few more resources that didn't fit into OP

Great thread

>>72923684
It's suffering these past few weeks, but that's expected, how much can you talk about learning a language anyway.Are you learning a language?

I think you should remove duolingo, it is worth nothing. After(if) you finish you wont know any more than the first two or three chapters of any book and it will take you much more time. Not only that you are working for free for them.

>>72925675
Hmm.Well I don't think it's as useless as you say it is, it can be if you treat it like a game and just look at the answers and go through the thing.But you can learn a lot from it if you practice daily and the only reason it's on OP is because it's completely free, there are much better resources out there for sure but they are not as easily accesible and/or free.I also don't mind being a shill for duolingo as a side effect of these threads as it helped me quite a lot I have to say.

Who /swahili/ here?

>>72923458
So What language are you learning?

Why is Hebrew so fucking difficult?

>5 more days to brush up on my german to at least B2 level after not speaking it for 20 years

I've skimmed through 2 books and it's a hopeless endeavour. Speaking a language is definitely not like learning to drive a bike.

>>72923458
I started learning Russian just a few days ago. Hopefully I can stick with it. I've been pretty interested in it for a few years now.

>>72926057
I'm just learning Swedish for now.What language are you learning?

HelloTalk is full of normies

>>72927003
Well, if you have any quastions about the grammar, vocabulary or anything related to Russian ask me. I will help you.

Damn, the french subjunctive is hard.

Je n'étais point sur que vous vous fussiez douché!
Il était important que j'en susse!

Are these correct? (I know they're posh af)

Tips for consolidating vocabulary.

GO GO GO GO

>>72924082
Learning English. To be more specific, I have to learn more vocabulary. Although I know how to make sentences, I sometimes feel like I don't have enough words for expressing what I've got in my mind.

>>72928314
Immersion

>>72928396
Another trip I'm Starting

>>72926096
Does Hebrew have weird gender rules for verbs?

>>72927208
Well you can try these but I imagine they are also full of normies

https://www.italki.com/
http://www.gospeaky.net/
https://www.speaky.com/
https://polyglotclub.com/
http://lang-8.com/

>>72928412
Listen to radios, watch movies/TV programs and read a lot. Don't forget to practice pronunciation.
HelloTalk is a great app for learning languages. You cam chat with people around the world and have calls. Besides you can know qt's

who learning italian hier ?

>>72928763

I use forvo, but I can not consolidate it well.


>>72928824

Me.

>>72928137
These are correct but no one uses imperfect subjunctive in everyday speech. Even in written language it's rare.

Saluton, amikoj. Kiel vi fartas?
toki, jan pona o. sina pilin seme?

>>72930564
What level are you at Esperanto, and how many hours did it take for you to get there?

>>72931067
I'm not sure what my level is, but I can read and write Esperanto at an intermediate level, and hear and speak Esperanto at a beginner level. I became confident in Esperanto after about a year.

>>72930564
That shit looks like Finnspañol. Who can you find to speak that with anyway?

What's the go to book for Persian?

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>>72923529

ok spanish bros, pls help me out. I understand the basic concepts/ rules of using the subjunctive (i.e. verbs with influence, uncertainty), but I've been watching El Internado recently and it seems like a bunch of the time they'll use subjective when I would have expected indicative.

Is it more or less up to the speaker sometimes (like a sentence could possibly use either???)

Also how the fuck can anyone understand Cubans

>>72933158
If you come across examples, write them down and post them here, otherwise it's hard to know what you mean.

But it's one of the things foreigners usually consider the hardest.

>>72933158
Knowing when to use the subjunctive is definately the most difficult aspect of Spanish.
Are Cubans the ones that drop their s' at the end of words?

Anyone else get bummed out when they think where they'd be if they stuck to a language they gave up?

I first started Italian ~8 years ago but i rarely stuck to it for more than a couple of months and after a period of months/year i'd start again spend 2 weeks catching up 1 month learning and then give up again for 6 months.

Fuck i'd be fluent now instead of barely able to understand simply conversations and read basic native materials :(

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>>72934919
>>72933158
Why subjunctive for these 2?

>>72927003
пpивeт мoй бpaт, кaк дeлa?

я нe дyмaю, чтo здecь ecть дpyгoй aнгличaнин

>>72927248
why do we only use the prepositional for just a few of the prepositions? in в, o and нa we have to use it but not for the rest..need an explanation or rule for this one

Any Rusbro or Russian-speaking anon mind sharing his learning material?

>>72937695
I don't think it's possible to become fluent in anything without complete immersion desu. maybe take an extended vacation to Italy to make up for lost time

>>72941813

Nigga there's thousands of perfectly fluent English speakers who never set foot in the UK/US here.

git
gud

>>72941870
that's a false comparison because English is omnipresent in all parts of Europe throughout childhood.

>>72941894

You vastly over estimate the presence of English in Europe.

The EU is not a US colony senpai.

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>>72941924
It doesn't matter who's a colony of who; the fact remains that someone born in France will be exposed to English from cradle to grave, especially in childhood, in the form of things like video games and television shows. The opposite is not true for Italian, especially in Great Britain.

>>72941984

All video games, movies and tv programs are dubbed here, you dummy

>let me tell you how your country works

top kek

>>72942026
Buddy, the French government can't go through and dub everything on the internet which is the primary mode of consumption for young people.

>top kek

not an argument

>>72942072

>video games
dubbed by default
>tv
dubbed by default
>netflix
dubbed by default
>facebook
all in French because they normies are monolingual

need I go on?

How about I don't teach you about burgers and you don't tell me how English is taught in France.

>>72938482
Don't speak Spanish, but I imagine it's similar to Italian, where the subjunctive can be used with a restrictive function.

So, the places THAT you have discovered (and not the other places).

i look at my phone a lot since we're in 21st century. so i just decided to change my language settings in x language.

it's pretty effective imo

>>72945090
phones are bad for you

>>72945332
and so is eating a girls bootyhole but we all do it anyway.

>>72938482
yeah what the italian said. Also Native-ish (I stopped speaking it as my primairy language of conversation some years ago, as a result my Spanish is perfect) but it also seems to have an air of meaning as "places that you may have discovered" "places that you may have heard of". It definitely also gives an air of fanciness.

>>72945466
I haven't :((((

>>72946880
does your mom's pussy give an air too?

>>72938482
Spain spanish is retarded. Just replace hayas for has.

>>72947361
No, it's authentic and you version of Spanish is retarded.

>>72947801
says the guy speaking retarded Russian

>>72947820
I know that Russian is retarded without you telling me.

>>72942114
American delusions concerning the use of English in non-speaking English countries are hilarious. They probably use it to justify their own incompetence when it comes to learning languages.
>t-they can only speak English because they've been exposed to it since childhood
>i-it's the only way to become fluent, I-I'm not retarded/lazy

>>72923458
started learning latin... i really like it

>>72928554
You have no fucking idea

Hebrew has more gender confusion than tumblr

>>72930564
Mi feliĉas vidi alian parolanton de la internacia lingvo

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>>72948250
Can you read this?

I don't have any learning partners so It's really hard to motivate myself, some days i just give up, then start over again.

>>72949482
What language are you studying?

yes hello where are my fellow students of the uyghur language?

>>72951616
t. Naoki Watanabe

>>72947010
>>72947025
hello max

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Starting with the Turkish TeaTime podcast.
Lesson 1 was Hello how are you
Lesson 2 way harder with sentences, too steep curve. See pic.

>>72953656
Well this is just showing you simple stuff one uses all the time while constructing a sentence.If you think this is boring or too early try doing Pimsleur before you get into grammar rules, you will progress faster that way.

who /íslenska/ here? im studying because i want my own norwegian to be less influenced by latin/greek. for example i would rather say "saga" than "historie", or "allmennt" instead of "generellt"

>>72954295
But saga is also used in other languages like Dutch and German.

>>72955551
yes, because those are all Germanic. the word "historie" (in both Norse and Dutch) comes from Latin "historia", whereas "saga" is a Germanic word.

I don't see why one would make that big of a fuss of which words to use though. being against plopping English words down in every non-English sentence is a sentiment I share, but words that have been taken from other languages hundreds of years ago don't bother me.

>>72953046
hello my anal sniffing brother

Any good grammar books for german that fellow learners could recommend?

>>72931664
There are a lot of people who speak it, and a lot of websites/forums/messaging groups for people who speak it.

>>72948574
Ankaŭ mi. Ŝajnas ke Esperantistoj ne plu afiŝas ĉi tie tiom ofte.

>>72962675
Are you learning a language anon?

>>72963040
Turkish

>>72963204
Kolay gelsin kardeş.

>>72963326
did you just call me a fascist?

>>72963823
You wish, you can't block our plane for this Mr.Rutte

>>72963326
beni de söylebilirmisin anon
ben de öğreniyorum

>>72964620
feels good to know that my insignificant nazi banana republic will soon be re-added to the democratic people's republic of Turkey

>>72965002
Sana "kolay gelsin" demeyeni yesinler yavrum
Kolay gelsin kardeş.

>>72965168
Based.

>>72965303
sağol canım benim

I'm learning english and german

>>72965454
Viel glück.

>>72965416
>>72965303
oda bulun kizlar

>>72970114
kimsin lan

Anyone learning Hungarian?
I feel so lonely

>>72933158
think about cubans like niggers speaking spanish, that's the trick
chileans are the ones you won't understand

>>72970189
anenini satan pezevenkim

>>72947361
>los peruanos no saban hablar español
mejor dedicate al quechua tiraflechas

>>72970485
turkmusun balım

>>72970571
hayir, çerkezim oglum

>>72923458
You start a lot of these threads, Turkey-Chan, thanks. I'm interested in what languages you know yourself.

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>>72923458
Spanish, like most Americans. I'm actually getting pretty good. I know basic grammar and my vocabulary isn't bad

>>72971016
he niye turkce ogreniyorsun o zaman?

>>72971214
>basic grammar and vocabulary
>pretty good

shit I must be amazing in Turkish then

(((spoiler: im shit and i'm turkish myself)))

>>72971482
In America that's pretty good. Most people don't know a foreign language

>>72971482
ogreniyorum demedim ki, cocuktan hatirliyorum

simdi rusça ogreniyorum, cerkezler ordan geliyor

Hi, /lang/.

I was hoping that you could give me some advice. I'm a huge linguaphile, and would love to be something of a polyglot, especially as I'm looking to go into the Foreign and Commonwealth Office as a diplomat when I leave university.

At the moment, I speak English fluently, and I hit my 100 day Duolingo streak for Dutch. I've managed to do an hour a night for 100 days, and have been able to have some basic Dutch conversations online with people. I'm at Duolingo Level 22.

Where to now? Do I continue with Dutch, and try to achieve fluency, or split my time between Dutch and another language? If so, which one do you recommend?

>>72923458

Lithuanian desu

except native english country
if you live mother country, did you have chance of use english?

am lazy to look for gaijin

>>72972463
Really? I could hook you up with a native speaker who is deparate to find native Spanish speakers learning Lithuanian.

>>72972172
> linguaphile
Disgusting mix of Latin and Greek, mate. Use 'glossophile'.

I'll say this to you, as I do to everyone: start with Latin. All-time greatest way to begin learning languages.

>>72971692
he tamam

bizden nefret ediyormusun?

>>72973572
yo, nefret edmiyorum sadece size fazla sevmiyorum. siz bence cogu salak gorunuyorsunuz ve ingilizce orenmeyince turklerin itibarenin ustune bok yapiyorsunuz.

yani, salak kisiler sevmiyorum ve turkler cogu salak. turk olduktan degil.

>>72970297
please still be here please still be here please still be here
i'm learning hungarian and i need help

>>72974798
Hey man, I'm here!
Join https://discord.gg/MrhDumJ

>>72926513
>Driving a bike

Warum?

Is anyone learning a language on the side while studying? I'm only doing book study maybe about an hour a week and lingvist every day.

I can just about get the gist of what people are saying on /esp/.

Will passively listening to spanish radio help?

>>72976946
>Is anyone learning a language on the side while studying?
yup, together with my engineering degree

I make sure to squeeze in an hour or two everyday

>Will passively listening to spanish radio help?
don't about esp but in general I don't find it particularly helpful

>>72977072
I study mechanical engineering, I've had a lot of reports due in, I don't even both with lectures anymore kek.

How and what do you study? Purely book? I'll give it a trial anyway but I won't hold out on it,

>>72977145
I do 50xp or more on duolingo every day and study from a book (new penguin). on top if I have time I'll do some lingvist too.

I've got a pimsleur course as well that I'm planning on doing a bit later down the line.

>>72976946
>Will passively listening to spanish radio help?
Yes, you won't learn the language just by listening but it helps a lot

>>72976946

I found it helps to 'slow down' the language. So instead of just a stream of noise you'll start being able to recognise sounds even if you aren't understanding anything. Which helps further down the line when you are trying to understand what you are listening to.