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Did you get the letter yet Hans?

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I sent it special delivery? also America said something about "denbts" you should give him a call he sounds jolly well cross?

t. Britain
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THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF NIGE
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>>72909688


IT'S FUNNY ISN'T IT
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Tick tock tick tock....
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Nigel Farage, more like Nigger Farage.
HAHAHAHAHA
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>>72909641
finally the biggest scum of europe is leaving, it's about time. now take east europe with you and the eu is perfect again.
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>>72910764
Don't be so rude to the bongs and slavs.
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>>72909839
>Canada
Wot? Did you kill cuckdeau or what?
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I don't give a shit about the EU or NATO.

The only thing concerning me is the refugee stuff..
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>>72910764
pssst! we do not really want to leave EU, we just want to wheedle more moneys out of you
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>>72911011
Good post
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>>72909641
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>we still have to wait two fucking years to have the brits out
If only they could leave any sooner... now there will be two years of useless drama
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>>72913195
>two more years of useless pepe banter and butthurt

Nice
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>>72909641
Did you get the memo, Nigel?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/29/first-eu-response-to-article-50-takes-tough-line-on-transitional-deal

>"European parliament resolution puts three-year limit on transition arrangement and says no to free trade agreement in next two years."

>"Should Britain seek to negotiate any free trade deals with other countries while it is still an EU member state, there will be no future discussion of a deal with the union."
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>>72913345
>Should Britain seek to negotiate any free trade deals with other countries while it is still an EU member state, there will be no future discussion of a deal with the union.

wtf sort of bullshit is this.

the EU nations really have lost sovereignty.
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fuck the eussr lads
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>>72910764
Germany is leaving?
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>>72913458
>buhuuu we cant divide and conquer anymore
>waa waaa european countries dont make separate deals with us how can we play them against eachother

get out eternal anglo, with your shit buzzwords like sovereignity
you didnt give a shit about our sovereignity when we had to fight soviets either

fuck oofffffff
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>>72913345
I got the memo that finland will leave next.
Fuck EU
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>>72909641
Honestly feel like dividing the West isn't the best idea right now tbph.
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>The absolute salt of Donald Tusk
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>>72913666 (satanic trips checked)
>Should the negotiations fail,
smug_pepe.tiff
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Godspeed nige
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>>72909641
Goodbye Hans!
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>>72909641
I can't for us to erase this arrogant smile of yours
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Europe status: BTFO
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>>72909641

The English should kill and mutilate any EU national they catch, should the EU officials like Juncker continue to threaten the UK with destruction. Stabbing Czech students to death and causing Polish women to miscarry by kicking them in the stomach was a good start, but the Eurocrats don't care about poor Eastern Euros. You must target Westerners.

There are many young Spanish, Italian, Greek men and women forced to work as waiters etc in Britain due to the economic situation in their countries. They should be raped to send a message. Also, the French, Germans and Irish should be attacked.

Some may point out there are a million British retirees and other expats living in Spain and the rest of the EU who may be subject to retaliation. Let them, they are useless feeders, parasites and probably Remain supporters. But you can kill the young EU nationals in the prime working age, the ones working as bankers in London. This would be more injurious to these countries than the loss of some filthy pensioners in Majorca.
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>>72909641
yes
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New dawn is upon us. Federal Fortress Europa is closer than ever now that the brits are leaving.
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>>72917829
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>>72917843
United Europe is a terrible idea and will never happen regardless
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>>72917870
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>>72917892
You mean like United Kingdom ?
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>>72917892
United Europe is a terrific idea and after the biggest obstacle to it leaves Europe, it is likely to happen. By uniting Europe can survive the ill effects of globalization and start competing with great powers like US, China and Russia.
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>>72917973
>terrific idea

lmao what do Spaniards have in common with Lithuanians?
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Wew, the UK really dodged a bullet.
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>>72917924
>war room

what did they mean by that?
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>>72918051
It's a war room in the symbolic sense of course. No need for them to worry about anything...
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>>72917973
>By uniting Europe can survive the ill effects of globalization and start competing with great powers like US, China and Russia.

Isn't the EU basically a gigantic globalization machine? I'm not sure this is worth throwing nation-states away
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>>72913458
Wut.

EU nations are free to seek free trade agreements with UK it's just that there will be no EU-UK free trade agreement if UK decides to do so.

So UK can either choose to have 27 separate free trade agreements with EU states separately or a unionwide UK-EU agreement
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>>72918196
>Isn't the EU basically a gigantic globalization machine?
Of course not. By limiting the access to its market, it already prevents aggressive commercial behaviours from stronger economies, like the US' or China's.
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>>72918221
>EU nations are free to seek free trade agreements

Uhm, they are not. Do you know how a trading block works? They are literally not allowed to do that. Don't they teach you how the European Institutions. work in Polish schools?
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>>72918221
>EU nations are free to seek free trade agreements with UK
The EU exists to prevent that
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>>72918196
>Isn't the EU basically a gigantic globalization machine? I'm not sure this is worth throwing nation-states away

In a sense that EU is a superstructure on nation states you can say that EU is a globalizing force. But when that superstructure protects its members from global threats (global economic downturns, security threats etc.) and empowers its member states through single markets you can see how it is not only smart but necessary for nation states to give some sovereignity away. It's a way for small nation sates to survive in a globalized world.
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>>72918610
Regional entities seem like they would work a whole lot better than the EU, which at this point really seems to big and too widespread for its own good.

I feel like V4 should be an example to follow. By limiting this sort of entity to small regions, it's much easier to coordinate policy and have harmonious security, monetary and even fiscal policy.
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>>72918408
>They are literally not allowed to do that.
lmoa not really.
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People spout globalization as a buzzword but they know hardly what it means. In short, it is the loss of influence and relevance of the single nation state through whatever actor. This can be big multinational corporations, big bully states that assert their influence or supranational unions for the reasons the Finn has outlined. I personally prefer the latter.
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>>72918724
For once I agree entirely with the Eternal Leaf. He's got a good head on his shoulders
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>>72918795
Uh yes. Single memeber states of the trade block generally don't possess the competence to negociate trade on their own. That's why the UK has to exit first before it can negociate on its own.
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>>72918724
>Regional entities seem like they would work a whole lot better than the EU, which at this point really seems to big and too widespread for its own good.

Well there is some truth in this. Personally I see that the enlargement process to the east in the 2000's was taking a too large bite. Should have been first integration, then enlargement. But now that UK is leaving the biggest obstacle for integration has left and maybe Fiscal union etc. could be in the horizon.
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>>72917973
>>72918610
fuck off globalist shill
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>Trump elected
>Brexit
>nationalism on the rise in Europe

The EU's days are numbered.
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>>72920118
LePen isn't going to win I don't think. And when she doesn't it's going to be praised as a victory for the left even if the government ends up being right-wing.
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>>72920199
Traditional right and left are exploding in France. It seems Macron is gonna take everything. It won't be seen as a victory for the left because the socialist party won't exist anymore if he wins
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>>72920256
It probably won't in France because you actually know what the parties represent. I have no doubts that the BBC here will say it is.
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>>72920118

>Trump elected

And look at that shitshow. Domestically he already crashed into a brickwall. Unable to unite his party to undertake any serious legislative attempt.

>Brexit

Giant shitshow. And the EU is making it more and more clear that they are going to slaughter GB.

>nationalism on the rise in Europe

Kektus. Wilders failed, AfD is in step decline and Le Pen is losing to the Populist with the Pro EU message.

>>72909641
Lel. In the end the british Union is the union that is going to collapse.

And it is even more pathetic to hope that Daddy Trump is going to safe you. The man is seriously catching flak and needs to fight domestically. He surely isn't going to fight british fights. And his meeting with Merkel was embarrassing- for him. His self made NATO debt sheet made him look like a bloody amateur and just damaged his credibility. International politics aren't a retarded 1970s housing deal.
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>>72920118


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL2FE1JleRE


Hell Seger Sverige
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>>72920349
>Kektus. Wilders failed, AfD is in step decline and Le Pen is losing to the Populist with the Pro EU message.

Yay more refugees for Europe :DDD
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>>72919890
Wanting to strengthen EU to combat the ills of globalization is now being a globalist shill?
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>>72920349

Wilders gaining 25% in seats is a failure?
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Good Luck, my British friends!
You gonna need it
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>>72909641
>America said something about "denbts" you should give him a call he sounds jolly well cross?
What did he mean by this?
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>>72917766
>irish

nah, good lads, don't care about the rest though
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>>72920392

>Yay more refugees for Europe :DDD

Yay no retarded meme politicians fucking everything up like in the anglosphere.

>>72920413
Wilders got stronger but Rute was successful in stealing his core messages. Rutes hardline stance against Erdogan stole most of the ground Wilders can hope to cover.
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>>72920349
>the EU is making it more and more clear that they are going to slaughter GB
I admit that I got a little scared at the beginning when Merkel and the other leaders didn't seem very sure about the brexit but now the lube is ready
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>>72920532
I hope you enjoy another million

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany
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But seriously, you know you are fucked, right?

Over 50% of your foreign trade is with the EU
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>Banks to London staff: "Don't panic!" as Britain launches EU divorce process

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-banks-idUSKBN1700YA

oh boy, the crash will be spectacular
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>>72920349
>anything I don't like is a shitshow
>Wilders getting 25% is a failure because he didn't get 51%
>muh polls show that AfD is in decline just like Brexit and Trump were

That's one butthurt kraut. By the way, the only one looking stupid was Merkel who doesn't pay denbts. It's funny that after making fun of Greece for so long for their denbts, you are the one that needs to pay up now, isn't it?

Enjoy your collapsing union Hans, but don't try anything clever like last time, this time you'd probably get your shit pushed in by Poland.
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>>72920572

we're going to be so rich within a decade literally everyone will leave.

it'll just be the brainwashed krauts and the parasitic sycophants in Eastern Europe left to steal more of your money.
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>>72920619
rich from what exactly? Who are you gonna trade with?
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>>72920614
anglocuck detected
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>>72920619
You're already poor dumbass. We just have to steal your financial capacities now and you'll be left with nothing
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>>72920648

Everyone.
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>>72920666
oh ok, seems like you have everything planned out
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>>72920572
You can't reason with Brexiters. They are literally just a bunch of clueless uneducated NEETs.
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>>72920678

i honestly don't know what to spend my spare money on, there's going to be that much.
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>>72920536
It was bloody hilarious when it was leaked that the talks are going to be held in french.

May looks like a hunted Animal more and more.

>>72920567
https://theukdatabase.com/2017/01/25/rotherham-paedophile-ring/

All god pham :* .

>>72920614
>By the way, the only one looking stupid was Merkel who doesn't pay denbts.

>Implying Trumps retarded list isn't on the same level as greece ridiculous claims.

>Enjoy your collapsing union Hans, but don't try anything clever like last time, this time you'd probably get your shit pushed in by Poland.

Where do you even get this from. The countries running into grave political problems atm are located in the anglosphere. I mean memes are funny but seriously.

>>72920619
>we're going to be so rich within a decade literally everyone will leave.

>everyone suddenly leaves
>even if that were true that somehow would magically fix GB's shitty economy

O.k.
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>>72920648
other anglos

they are also going to team up with turkey and russia for shits and giggles

screencap this
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>>72920619
lol m8 we're fucked, nobody else is leaving the EU
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>>72920717
>using rotherham as an retort

lmao you realise shit like that is why people voted to leave the EU? Too bad they didn't know it wouldn't stop anything
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>>72920823

> Too bad they didn't know it wouldn't stop anything

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_migrant_crisis
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>>72920696
I don't understand the Wales category. Wales voted to leave didn't it? Or is this just a poll?
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>>72920823
Not only would it not stop anything but it means even more Rasheeds coming over
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>>72920823
>you realise shit like that is why people voted to leave the EU?
>people voted to leave the EU because of muslims coming from the commonwealth
That sounds perfectly logical
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>>72920696
>>72920862
It's a poll I'm a retard don't mind me.
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>>72920891
Welcome to Brexit Britain. There's tons of examples of shit like that.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-cornwall-issues-plea-for-funding-protection-after-county-overwhelmingly-votes-in-favour-of-a7101311.html
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>>72920536
>>72920349
>And the EU is making it more and more clear that they are going to slaughter GB.

Meh. There is nothing indicating that and its not in the interest of anyone.
What do we really have in EU "hardline talk" that overblown nonsense about the outstanding payments. Thats literally it and its a non-issue that got hyped up by media because its nothing but stuff Britain already contractually commited to paying anyway. There were never not going to pay it.

Britain doesn't want to and can't afford to lose the single market and the EU has no interest in losing access and control of Britains market so we're just gonna end up with a lot of drama and tears over nothing because Britain is just gonna get a Norway type of deal. They pay, they get the markt and the free movement, so basically like right now just worse because they don't get a say anymore.
Which is best for everyone involved because all of Britains "say" in the Eu has universally been retardation and terrible ideas. What sort of things did Britain back while here? Turkey membership (thy were literally the only goverment that was still saying they wanted it to happen), pushed for the rapid East Expansion, TTIP and the most retarded of PEGI restrictions (remember when the gambling halls in pokemon games got removed back then? Yeah that was thanks to britain joining PEGI).
Seriously, I think britain leaving is best for all of us, and realistically speaking, no one wants to make this ugly.
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>>72909641
>No to Europe
>Yes to Pakistan, India, Africa

Good job. You have made the greatest decision in history!
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>>72920951
>European money has helped develop infrastructure, universities and broadband internet in the county. From 2007 to 2013, €654m was given to pay for these projects, the Financial Times reported.
Yeah fuck the EU
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>>72920858
We hardly took any refugees in. Now we are gonna take in more Pakistanis as we will be more reliant on the commonwealth. (all rape gangs in the UK are BRITISH pakis, not refugees)
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>>72921008

>saying no to one means saying yes to the other

ah yes, not fallacious at all.
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>>72920989
You can say we can't afford to lose it but I will be interested in seeing if we actually can. We currently import more from the EU than we export, and it could be possible for us to just import from other places.

If I'm remembering this right, it's currently better for us to import New Zealand lamb than it is to just eat Welsh lamb, most of which is being exported to the EU. Farmers will end up losing money, but for most people it would mean cheaper meat.
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>>72921029
Brexiters are retards
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>>72921083

we took in plenty, and why the hell should we take in 1 if we don't want to? why should the EU decide to destroy various towns/cities bringing in these animals?

>Now we are gonna take in more Pakistanis as we will be more reliant on the commonwealth

nice proof. we don't know what is going to happen regarding immigration.
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Why can't the rest of the world be like Canada and Australia?

Why must you accept literally millions of unskilled labourers
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>complain about tedious EU bureaucracy
>take 9 months for a simple letter
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>>72920989
You only think in economical terms. In political terms, breaking the knees of the UK would be a good idea to send a message of cohesion to the Union. Also some actors such as France and Germany are interested into taking over some of the UK's financial sectors
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>>72921147
>and it could be possible for us to just import from other places
At a tremendous extra cost because of logistical costs which are always the biggest part of any given import. Adding to that that anyone who is willing to supply you at reasonable prices will cut huge concessions out of your hide for it because you are desperate for it. Other countries need britain a lot less than Britain needs other countries, you don't produce anything unique or of particular market value, while you are hugely reliant on products you aren't making yourself.
You can obviously "survive" it, thats not the question. You would suffer a lot for it though and gain nothing for it because you're just trading dependency and dictate from a trading block of friendly nations that you have a say in, for trade dependency and dictate from a lot less friendly nations where you don't get to say shit.

>>72921147
>most of which is being exported to the EU. Farmers will end up losing money, but for most people it would mean cheaper meat.
And more jobless farmers.
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>>72921212
We will, it's common sense

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/674289/Diane-James-Britain-migration-European-Union-Ukip-EU-referendum-Brexit

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3630847/More-black-people-allowed-Britain-leave-EU-immigration-non-issue-says-Nigel-Farage.html
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>>72921317
Farmers are not short of money.
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>>72921212
>we took in plenty

That's simply not true, we took in far, far less than other EU countries. We had a great deal of control over people coming in considering we aren't a member of Schengen.

>we don't know what is going to happen regarding immigration.

No but we can look at the levels of non-EU migration that we currently have (higher than EU migration btw) and see that even though the government currently have control over non-EU migration, it's still rising. You're deluded if you believe non-EU migration isn't going to rise even further.
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>>72921291
>You only think in economical terms.
I'm german like that, thats why we let you guys deal with the negotiations, we germans are known to be too kindhearted and generous for this sort of business.

>>72921291
>Also some actors such as France and Germany are interested into taking over some of the UK's financial sectors
I seriously hope France gets a lot of it so we maybe can finally convince you guys to let the parliament stop migrating to Strasburg every half year and waste milions.
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>>72921372

>UKIP

irrelevant. Conservatives are in power.
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>>72921416
They will be once they don't have a market for their products anymore.
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>>72921433
m8 it's common sense we will rely more on the commonwealth now we left the EU market. I understand you are in denial as the only reason you voted for brexit is to stop paki immigration when really it won't stop anything. You'll see but don't hate yourself for voting brexit, it's not your fault as they lied to us with bullshit like how they will invest more into the NHS etc
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>>72921429
>I seriously hope France gets a lot of it
Thanks

>convince you guys to let the parliament stop migrating to Strasburg every half year and waste milions
[spoiler]Never[/spoiler]
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>thinks he votes to limit non-white immigration
>millions of white Europeans will now leave his country including millions of white Scottish people

Can't make this shit up.
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Within 5 years the UK will be begging to be let back in. Their leadership will fail to adjust their economy to the radically new climate. If this was pre-2008 it would've had a much greater chance. But these days the advanced economies that the UK would need bilateral agreements with are more careful and protective of their own economies. And the broader trend in world politics is to join regional organizations which regulate trade much like the EU did.
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>>72921317
>Other countries need britain a lot less than Britain needs other countries, you don't produce anything unique or of particular market value, while you are hugely reliant on products you aren't making yourself.
This is also not true. There are plenty of places I know of that currently export to places outside of the EU, mainly China and the US. These markets aren't going to disappear after Brexit. I'd be interested in an actual breakdown of what's being exported to the EU really. Things like aeroplane parts aren't able to be moved so easily to Europe, so you will still be forced to buy them. European companies are still interested in investing in the UK and building projects like the one nearby me are still going ahead even after the vote.

Both sides could survive it. I just don't think the EU would be willing to punish the UK while it still exports more than it imports from the UK. Especially with more specialist things which the UK does export. I'm not talking about the kind of shit we get shown on TV about some hippie and his gourmet health drinks.

>>72921496
No they have loads. Most have other businesses on the side too or property in London. They are subsidised far too much.
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>>72921822
The leadership has already "threatened" to turn the UK into a tax haven. You only need to look at the reaction to that to tell that the EU really doesn't want that.
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>>72921904
Becoming a tax heaven would fuck over the average englishman even more tho
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>>72921904
That's nothing more than posturing. You just can't become a tax heaven without massive deregulation of the financial industry. This happens >>72921954
Switzerland is pretty much the only non-meme country that is able to do it and thats because Switzerland is Switzerland. You on the other hand are gonna have 10 million people below the poverty line within a year of going tax heaven. Just saying.
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>>72921954
I can't say it wouldn't for sure, but in some circumstances by making the rich pay less in tax the government receives more of it. Just like if you raised the highest tax rate to say 70%, you'd just find more people moving out and possibly receiving less in tax.
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>>72921822
Of course, look at the age difference with brexiters and remainers. Remainers are young, brexiters are old.
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>>72921904
DO IT FAGGOT
MBGA
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>>72921845
>They are subsidised far too much.
Yes, and who does that?

>There are plenty of places I know of that currently export to places outside of the EU, mainly China and the US.
This doesn't make my statement in the least untrue, I don't even understand what logic you are following here. The UK doesn't sell so much to the EU out of the goodness of their heart, but because its the profitable market for these goods, either because of a lack of market abroad or because its the most advantagous in prices. Even if it can find other markets for these products, they will never be as profitable, because if they were, you'd be already selling there.

>Things like aeroplane parts aren't able to be moved so easily to Europe, so you will still be forced to buy them.
More likely competing aeoplane part manufecturers become more competitive and people will buy from them instead.

>I just don't think the EU would be willing to punish the UK while it still exports more than it imports from the UK
You are right, but for the wrong reason. The UKs exports to the EU are a lot more easily replaced than the UK as a import market, because the UK exports aren't quality goods that can't be imported from somewhere else, while the UKs imports will always suffer from additional costs of logistics and tariffs once they start buying them from outside the single market.
A single country is more easily replaced as market than the world largest trading block. If need be, the EU countries could start producing these goods locally, while the Uk has neither the population nor the industrial base to do that.
The EU won't punish the Uk harshley outside of propaganda and headline effective talks, because they don't benefit from it and they have no need for it. Britain isn't going to leave the single market, they will stay, just under worse terms for Britain.

> Especially with more specialist things which the UK does export.
Such as?
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>>72921845
>>72922151
>European companies are still interested in investing in the UK and building projects like the one nearby me are still going ahead even after the vote.
As someone working int eh investment business, i can tell you a lot of international business is already pulling out of Britain, in fact more than we had expected before talks had even started. The way talks are going in terms of remaining in the single market will decide how it continues. European companies will keep investing in britain if that stays profitable, it will be a lot less if you lose access to the single market. And thats not only true for european companies.
People will never completly stop investing into one of the biggest economies in the world, which Britain will remain for some decades at least no matter what, but it has already become signficantly less and it will become less further into the future.

For your example, you hopefully understand how that means nothing because those are investments already contractually agreed to which people can't just pull out.
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>>72922151
>Such as?
I think he is referring to defense materials but those deals are made as much on the basis of politics as on the actual quality of the merchandise. Nothing they make is irreplaceable though.
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>>72921029
the whole smug brit pepe
angry EU wojak should make it clear how delusional brexiteers are, seeing as it's pretty wildly expected that we're headed straight into a recession.
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>>72913544
Noh niin, Oha-Allah. Otetaas ne lääkkeet.
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>>72922356
>I think he is referring to defense materials
British defense and military goods are primarily (something like two thirds even, if memory serves) to the Middle East. I'm not seeing the Eu exit affecting that much either way and they certainly produce nothing european countries would have no other supplier for.
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>>72922054
>but in some circumstances by making the rich pay less in tax the government receives more of it
I can't think of any circumstances in which lowering taxes of rich people gets the government more money. The only way it works is by lowering corporate taxes so the big companies come and pay little taxes which is better than none at all. This wouldn't work though as most international companies are already located in tax havens like Ireland.
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>>72922151
Regarding the aerospace industry, as an spaniard it will be interesting to see how Rolls Royce will react to Brexit. Right now they hold ownership of ~45% of ITP, an spanish company that produces some of its engines and helps designing a, obviously small, part of some of them.

It could be great for us if they decided to incrase their industrial output to maintain their relationship with airbus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industria_de_Turbo_Propulsores
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>>72909839
>>72913481
The good thing about all this is the very good quality pepe images it has produced.
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>>72918610
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>>72922418
Yeah no one is actually angry except those Brussel bureaucrats who have had their egos bruised. They are trying to whip up some anti-brit anger now but its only a show. The commission know they should've resigned the moment they fucking lost 1 out of the 3 major powers in the EU so they'll try to deflect as much blame away from themselves. No EU citizen I've met has ever been mad though.
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>>72922483
>I can't think of any circumstances in which lowering taxes of rich people gets the government more money.
Land purchases and profit taxes on companies specialising in producing or offering services to rich customers. I'm not convinced Britain has so much of that it would off-set the tax loss, though London has a lot of millionaires so it might check out.
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>>72920989
>because Britain is just gonna get a Norway type of deal. They pay, they get the markt and the free movement,

Never going to happen.
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>>72922602
>americans are too dumb to get involved in serious discussions so they try to draw attention by posting old overused memes
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>>72922662
That is exactly going to happen. There simply isn't enough support in your goverment for a real Brexit and they make the deals.
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>>72922053
You can say that but where is the proof?

>>72922151
Mix of the UK and EU.

It sells to Europe because of the tariffs imposed on other places. It's possible we could lift those after Brexit if the EU doesn't do a profitable deal for us.

Doubtful.

I'm not sure why you think the UK couldn't produce EU goods locally. We'll ignore that it could just import from elsewhere for now, but the UK has some pretty big industry. We shut down the coalmines and steelworks, but we still have places like ARM Holdings.

>>72922295
Both our evidence was anecdotal. But for every warning that someone might move out (Goldman Sachs) we get increased investment elsewhere (Nissan in Sunderland). It's going to be hard to decide whether it's a loss or gain until we actually reach that point.

>>72922483
>>72922575
London has the most millionaires of any city in the world last I checked. In terms of millionaires per country we're in the top 5 or so. I don't know if it would off-set the loss you would be definitely taking with more people joining, but I haven't really looked into it. I just know it's a real thing.
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>>72922726
>Nissan in Sunderland
you know who came knocking on the PMs door days after brexit?

Nissan, do you know why? because they were threatening to leave.
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>>72922602
more like...
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>>72922699
Free movement is never going to happen. It's going to be a full on Brexit, we are leaving everything.
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Dear Bongs, please make sure every German voter knows who wil be covering what you used to pay before the German elections.
God speed with your independance.
You did the right thing.
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>>72922779
I'd do the same thing if I knew I could get some kind of deal. If I remember right they were/are coming to the end of a production cycle and wanted something to remain. Whatever she's promised seems to have worked for now at least.
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>>72922797
we're probably not though.

may is going to go for a norway like deal except for freedom of movement.

that way she can keep the economy and the remoaners (Who are the young educated and fiscally well endowed) people happy

whilst giving a sense of 'we got our country' back to the deanos up north, because poles won't be able to come in as easy.
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Finally we can rid ourselves of Anglo influence and free ourselves from the Burger King
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>>72922865
>sovereignty is being bullied by multinationals

ahh yes shoving to the establishment.
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>>72922726
Proof for speculating about the future?
If you want to see for yourself the current trends in politics and economics then they are a matter of public record. And the fact that the economies of Britain and Switzerland, as well as their demographics and political systems are vastly different should be obvious even to a layman.
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OUR NIGE EH LADS

WHAT A GUY

CAN'T WAIT FOR THAT 350 MILLION PER WEEK BUS LADS
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>>72922797
>Free movement is never going to happen. It's going to be a full on Brexit, we are leaving everything.
Thats what you wanted, its not what your goverment wanted, and its not what you will get. You want it really badly, but its not going to happen because they don't care about what you wanted.
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>>72922873
>may is going to go for a norway like deal except for freedom of movement.

Why do you people keep spouting a Norway deal? It isn't going to happen, because they still have to implement EU laws and legislation. Read this very carefully, we are leaving everything.
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cant wait to visit the UK with my now soaring freedom dollars
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Thanks bongos for biting the bullet and saving the EU.
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>>72922968
>Why do you people keep spouting a Norway deal?
Because thats whats the most likely outcome, because your goverment has to appease its international businesses and what else can they offer?
>because they still have to implement EU laws and legislation
You say that as if it were a reason for it to not hapopen. Nothing binds the Uk goverment to do that.
Right now the Uk would have to negotiate the dissolution of 20k of treaties. In 730 days. And they'll start negotiation in a month.
That will never fucking happen.
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>>72922957
>its not what your government wanted

It is what they currently want. The Conservatives as a party are Eurosceptics. Other British political parties are currently wetting their knickers at the thought of them pulling the UK out of everything, which they will.
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>>72922923
Ahh yes 'are nige

>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/29/nigel-farage-vows-leave-uk-brexit-disaster/

>http://www.politico.eu/article/is-nigel-farage-applying-for-german-citizenship-brexit-consequences-ukip-europe/
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>>72923051
>Right now the Uk would have to negotiate the dissolution of 20k of treaties

They're putting through a bill of parliament to make every EU law British law, and at some point down the line will amend or remove laws as they see fit. This won't have to be done during the negotiation process with the EU.
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>>72923116
>They're putting through a bill of parliament to make every EU law British law, and at some point down the line will amend or remove laws as they see fit.
I actually can't stop laughing about this. The sheer absurdity of it all.
Oh yeah, hardline Brexit right there.
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>>72922851
Rats are already preparing their escape I see
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>>72922900
The government has some sort of input in a lot of industries. Unless you can tell me what the PM offered them I'm not sure what you're complaining about.

>>72922918
Current trends where businesses have main offices in Ireland to avoid tax? I'm not sure what the second part has to do with it either. The Conservative government has already planned to lower corporation tax and currently there's nothing to stop them lowering it further. They don't have any opposition.
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>>72923166
The sooner you come to terms with the fact that the UK is leaving the EU in its entirety, the happier you will be.
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>>72923166
What would be absurd would be to negotiate the dissolution of 20k treaties in 730.
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>>72923208
You will leave, but your goverment will sell you to international business interests and force a treaty with the EU on free movement of goods and people on you. That is still leaving the EU, and thats what they're going to tell you.
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>>72923189
No, the trends I brought up in >>72922053
But feel free to ignore my posts. I'm just commenting from the sidelines. You are actually living this experiment and therefore you know best whats going on.
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New polls came out recently with the German eurosceptics having their support cut in half since the Brexit. You are not the hero we deserve but the hero we need. Thanks for taking the bullet, Brits.
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>>72923256
Please try and read this very carefully and get it through your head - the United Kingdom will not be accepting freedom of movement of people. The United Kingdom is leaving the EU in its entirety.
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Holy shit I don't think I've seen krauts so fucking butthurt ever before
Good on you Brits
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>>72923273
Even Le Pen took a really nuanced approach to Frexit in an interview the other day. Dodging the question of leaving the EU and talking more about reforming the EU and or Frances relationship with it. Sweden Democrats have laid rhetorical groundwork of that sort too. The ideal scenario would be if we all took this lesson to heart and tried to make the EU better.
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>>72923256
>force a treaty with the EU on free movement of goods and people on you
Brexit happened entirely because the bongs were scared of free movement of people. I doubt bong politicians will accept that considering that they'll get voted out if they do.
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>>72923273
Those retards jumped in front of the train first, of course every one is gonna hesitate now
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Three japanese companies already contacted czechinvest agency about moving their factories from UK to Czechia

T-thanks I guess

http://zpravy.e15.cz/byznys/finance-a-bankovnictvi/czechinvest-ponouka-firmy-k-presunu-z-velke-britanie-prvni-tri-uz-jsou-v-cesku-1330554
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>>72923373
Le Pen is a joke sold to the russians
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>>72923263
You're free to comment but unless you prove it you're not saying anything factual.

>>72923273
Was there any real eurosceptic movement in Germany? It's the last place I could imagine there being one.
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>>72923381
>I doubt bong politicians will accept that considering that they'll get voted out if they do.
With only 51% of voters having even been in favour of that, they will easily bank on making up for that by getting the votes of people who didn't want to leave and will be glad to have the compromise.
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>>72923435
>You're free to comment but unless you prove it you're not saying anything factual.
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>>72923335
The Krauts are superfluous m8. Whatever happens the UK and France will continue to cooperate on a range of matters, including militarily.
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>>72923435
>Was there any real eurosceptic movement in Germany?
Sure, like any other place. The AFD was big on it, but they kinda stopped at some point when it didn't really get them anywhere. They specialised in refugee scares now, which was obviously much more fruitful but with steadily increasing numbers of deportations they kinda lose wind too.
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UK is the most based european country now
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>>72923486
>UK and France strengthen defence cooperation with new weapon system agreement
>The Future Cruise/Anti-Ship Weapon programme will look at options to replace and improve existing Naval and Air Force weapons systems in the next decade. Lasting up to three years, this will help to define the missile designs and reduce risks to inform decisions about the next stage of the programme

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-and-france-strengthen-defence-cooperation-with-new-weapon-system-agreement
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>>72923486
Our military is already trying to fuck over the brits as NATO's number 2, and if an European army is created, UK won't be part of it
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>>72923486
france's signature.....
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>>72918724
>I feel like V4 should be an example to follow
you know what, I watched a documentary yesterday about V4 and their relations and it seems very harmonious:
similar cultures, sympathy towards each other, economic cooperation

it all seems great, but they tend to lean a bit too much towards Poutine to me.

Anyone can say anything about him and about how much of a savior he is but there is just something VERY FISHY about him

Would like to know how V4 will maintain it's general friendliness towards each member but I'm also wondering if V4 isn't a bit of an exception?
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I feel sorry for the working class Brits that will be going through what we went through.

It will be a bad time for them but good for the EU, so I guess it evens out.
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>>72923543
I wonder if they would place the military headquarter in France, since you guys are the best equipped and experienced in military with a global perspective that Germany cant provide
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>>72923435
There was AfD but as the net winners from the EU why would the Krauts want to leave? Their wealth is made on the poverty of Europeans
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>>72923543
France being NATO number 2 won't be happening anytime soon.
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You people are bantering now but things will be way worse than anticipated. The conflict of single market access and freedom of movement will not be resolved, neither will the EU manage to get all member states and some subnational parliaments to agree to extention of the talks.

There will be Soviet Union collapse style scenes on TV when the hard border comes into force in Ireland, massive lines and delays at ferries and airport, empty super markets because of newly implemented tariffs.

It will be glorious.
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>>72923533
I knew about the AFD but I never saw it of having any sort of hope of getting into a position to force a referendum unlike UKIP and our Conservative party. Thanks for the info.
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>>72920256
yeah but now Macron is being backed by fucking VALLS lad

Hamon btfo a teeny tiny bit on this one
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>>72923592
Only Hungary is little syphatic to Russia and thats because they are building them nuclear plant for loan without interests
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>>72918724
>I feel like V4 should be an example to follow
The V4 is a great thing, and I would kinda hope we have more regional alliances like that even within the EU. Stronger mutual interest groups would help diversify the political stances in the EU and off-set the issues of power imbalance that primarily comes from no one really trying to change anything besides germany.

On the othe rhand, the V4, while nice and good, right now isn't actually doing anything. So I'm unsure how much of a model it really is. The Benelux are a better example to follow there, imo.

>>72923659
>I knew about the AFD but I never saw it of having any sort of hope of getting into a position to force a referendum unlike UKIP and our Conservative party.
Definitly not. There is no chance of that happening for germany, because even the people who hate the euro (which are a lot), don't want to leave the EU, just change it.
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>>72923592
That's the whole problem of eastern Europe. We managed to get them on our side but they're still tempted by Putin (except for Poland). Putin does nothing for Russia except imprison dissidents and reinforce the army. Their economy is shit and relies almost entirely on oil and gas.

>there is just something VERY FISHY about him
He's a billionare who puts all of his friends in key positions so they all get richer
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>>72920118
>Trump got two travel bans and his healthcare plan cancelled
>The pound is basically worthless
>Hofer got BTFO
>Wilders got BTFO
>No one gives a shit about the AfD
>Le Pen will probably lose
>Scotland will probably leave the UK

Gee, the right sure is rising ;^)
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>>72923646
If things get THAT bad, the British goverment will most probably give up on immigration and agree with a Norway style deal.

They aren't retarded.
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>>72923646
>Hard Border in Ireland
What do you know? Irish people have the same rights as British people in our country, we have a pre-EU agreement declaring no-borders with them, Ireland isn't even in Schengen either.
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>>72923573
Welcome to le mac donald fàm
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>>72923683
Valls is the sign that the PS is done for, but Macron won't let him force him to do anything, especially when we know they hate each other
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>>72923764
god shut the fuck up dumb nigger
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>>72923774
>Scotland will probably leave the UK
They're still polling higher to remain than leave the UK.
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>>72923786
>They aren't retarded.
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>>72920435
genuinely excited/a bit scared about these talks
t. half French, half English
dick is in the Hardon collider
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>>72923764
How about Baltics? Are they tempted by Putin from time to time as well?
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>>72913481
This is a very good picture. I think the UK should save Portugal and bring it into our union.
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>>72923646
Let them relish in their tabloid fantasy world for as long as they can maintain it. At this point it doesn't look good for them at all. Only a miracle can save that situation, a genius of politics and economics suddenly ascending to power could probably steer the ship of state well enough to mitigate most of the damage.
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>>72923857
Nice argument faggot. You prefer to fap to Le Pen and strong man Putin maybe ? Fact is that Putin is a dumb nigger who is feasting on his own people, and even more so than any "oppressive" EU
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>>72923796
Haven't you already got it m8? This German knows everything about British politics. Of course if you try and tell him about German politics then that's a big no-no.
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>>72923894
Baltics are nordic now
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>>72923764
this isn't me --->>>72923857

but yeah I agree, the thing is that these countries only have two choices
one is to follow the multicultural stance of Germany
the other is the identitarian stance of Russia

too polarized my man
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>>72923796
>we have a pre-EU agreement declaring no-borders with them, Ireland isn't even in Schengen either.

because now the EU exists, it cannot have a major gaping trade hole that undermines its external trade policy.
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>>72923646
I just don't see that happening man. I sincerely hope not anyway. Sound minds will prevail.
You're right that Ireland is where it'll be felt the strongest however.
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>>72923894
They have some russians in their populations, meaning that Putin can use that to try to win some ground like he did in Ukraine. Baltics don't want that because they're like Poland and know what it's like to take the siberian bear cock is the ass. They need Nato and EU to stand behind them, and already reinforced their military, even tho it's small
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>>72923711
oh ok, fair enough
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What are the chances of Scotland secession?
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>>72923961
EU needs to be a lot stronger on its protection of borders. Harmonized surveillance at the limits of the EU is really needed to make people safe and deal with migrants and terrrorists
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>>72923774
>Scotland will probably leave the UK
Has no chance of happening unless the EU changes their stance on letting Scotland remain rather than having to reapply, and they won't.
Not only because of countries like Spain, but also because it'd be a huge diplomatic breach if the EU would support the breaking apart of the United Kingdom. It sounds awesome in a edgy Eu revenge fantasy sort of way, but it would have serious consequences on the EU-English relations.
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>you'll never get a referendum!
>y-you cucks won't vote leave
>yeah well... your politicians will never activate article 50!
>sh-shut up, your country will collapse the media told me so!
getting pretty pathetic now lads, stop moving the goalposts and admit you were wrong
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>>72923786
What everyone needs to get through their head is that the British government are in a terrible bargaining position. What they want is less important than what the EU will make them do.

>>72923943
He seems to know quite a bit about both the EU and the UK. His posts are quite instructive, I suggest you learn from them instead of dismissing them.
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>>72909641
NO THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING, WE ARE THE ONES IN CHARGE HERE
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>>72923951
>Average wage lower than Spain
>Nordic
Being a liquor store for Finns doesn't make a country Nordic.
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>>72924083
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>>72924054
they've swallowed so much EU propaganda they genuinely believe it's the only way Europe can survive, it's sad desu
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>>72923989
But EU needs Siberian bear's fart(aka: gas) so can't truly oppose Russia on many key issues.
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>>72923962
There might be a goods/tariff problem but there was already similar problems due to the difference in price between the North and Republic, with products flowing over the border without proper duty being placed because it's cheaper to sell there (cigarettes and alcohol mostly).
I predict there will be something put in place without actually being properly enforced, because who actually wants to do that? But I may be very wrong

There will be a quick agreement with Ireland regardless, the UK Gov't has stressed that leaving the EU had nothing to do with hurting Ireland and we rely on eachother.
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>>72924153
That's a problem I agree. That's why in France we use tons of nuclear energy
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>>72924031
I could see Scottland leaving if Sturgeon keeps the momentum and the EU hits the UK hard. Rose colored glasses and all that will make the possibility of rejoining the union (even if they were kept out regardless) a very
appetizing offer.

As you said before, they will be force to leave the eu either way. The spanish goverment is fine with letting them reapply IF they get the approval from the UK, but letting them inherit the UKs european status will set a precedent for Catalonia.
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>>72924153
And russia needs to sell their Gas to the EU. This is a matter of very mutual dependance. There aren't a lot of other places russia can sell their gas to, and we mostly buy from them to be less dependant on U.S. gas exports, which is 'also' in russias interest.

Nordstrom is alive and well.
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>>72924063
He shouldn't learn from him in regards to the Irish border though as he is wrong.
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>>72924153
And they need our money

Thats why you never heard from russians about stoping with gas supply

Thats why they are against further europeans integration aka common energy policy
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>>72924054
>>72924129


Ignore em lads, let them gobble up more cum from their central planning masters
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>>72924237
no no no Putin is only working for Europes best interests its all cuck lies
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>>72924181
Just out of curiosity, do all the north African countries not have natural gas? Isn't Algeria rich in oil? Why couldn't EU countries find an alternative to Russian gas or is it simply the best and cheapest?
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>>72924063
>terrible bargaining position. What they want is less important than what the EU will make them do.

True, but that doesn't mean that if the situation gets as bad as the germanon say they won't suck it up and accept whatever the EU says. I mean, it was a pretty drastic situation, not your average economic recession.
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What I'm interested in is what will happen to the official status of English in the EU, EU politicians have already flirted with the idea of removing English as an official language since Ireland put down their language as Irish Gaelic, so how will Irish politicians (who generally can't speak Gaelic) function within the EU now?
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>>72924301
Algeria and France aren't in very good relations
more or less same situation with a few other northern African countries
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>>72924227
Look, the Irish border may or may not retain its present status. As Ireland is in the EU they are subject to whatever decision the EU comes up with collectively in regards to how the EU-UK relations will be structured. And yes I know Ireland is in Schengen but Schengen is just one layer in this Byzantine system.
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>>72924274
You will be Sick man of Europe again ;)
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Just imagine the talks failing. Literally in the next two years millions of people have to pack their bags and leave the places they have been living at for years. A bigger exodus than the hundreds of thousands the Anglophone Canadians that left Quebec after the implementation of the French language bill.
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>>72924223
>I could see Scottland leaving if Sturgeon keeps the momentum and the EU hits the UK hard.
I don't know, I'm no Scot so I can only speculate wildly, but people are generally very much in favour of the status quo and leaving the Uk would be a huge step that I can't see Scotland taking unless they have a major safety net, like being allowed to remain in the EU, or the UK 'really' goes down the crapper, which I also don't see happening.

Northern Ireland on the other hand, 'could' easily split off. But as I understand it, the sentiment for that doesn't exist right now.

But yeah, i can even kinda understand Spains position here. It sucks for the Catalonians, of course, but losing Catalonia would hurt Spain even more than losing Scotland would hurt britain.
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>>72924301
>Isn't Algeria rich in oil?
Yes, we (Spain) get almost our gas and oil from there, the problem is that the infraestructure needed to get all that oil to the rest of Europe isn't there, unlike in eastern europe.
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>>72924225
They can sell to china after the huge pipe construction though.
If EU can't have fully energy independence, how can it truly committ to defend eastern European small States if Russia went berserk again?
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isn't it funny
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>>72924339
English will definitely continue as lingua franca, Scottland might even come back to restate it as an official language. Though it would be nice if we transitioned over to something like Esperanto, Ido or Lojban
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>>72924301
>Algeria
Algeria sold itself to everyone except for France because... well, the war and shit. And now they're in turmoil because their resources have become too expensive for foreign companies.

Also no infrastructure and the colonization spectre
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>>72924303
> as the germanon say they won't suck it up and accept whatever the EU says
If they do that they definitely will not get a Norway deal. A Norway deal is the best deal they can hope for. In essence Norway has all the benefits of the EU (except no say in EU politics) but also no obligations.

Britain will dodge a massive bullet if they get that kind of deal, and right now the commission isn't feeling very generous so its a damn good bet that the deal for the UK will be much, much worse.
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>>72924339
>What I'm interested in is what will happen to the official status of English in the EU
Since its the official language of two remaining EU members, it won't change.
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>>72924339
Ireland would have to withdraw Irish as an official language and replace it with English or Malta does the same with their language. Only one official language is allowed per member.
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>>72924382
Polacks will get mad af
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>>72924465
No, only one language per member state and they have chosen other languages.
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>>72924495
But Polish goverement will be very happy when million of young people would come back

Quite a boost for the economy
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>>72924371


It isn't in Schengen
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>>72924416
>They can sell to china after the huge pipe construction though.
Russia is scared shitless of becoming dependant on China. They won't and can't re.gear all their gas exports and rely on China as customer, especially with China having other options.
The EU might be difficult to deal with for russia sometimes, but many of its members, like germany, are quite sympathetic, economically, to them. China will rape russia and make it their bitch if given the chance.

>>72924416
>If EU can't have fully energy independence, how can it truly committ to defend eastern European small States if Russia went berserk again?
Ideally we will at some point. There is work being done towards a pan-european energy network incorporating solar farms in Spain with wind farm in the north and baltic sea etc. But that is still in the works and until then we need russian gas.
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>>72924537
Maybe, but in France we got the algerian french back after the war too and nobody was happy. People lost their home and work, and the metropolitans saw too many people arrive in one go. Granted it's not the same but still
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>>72924567
>>72924371

Meant to write isn't
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>>72924446
Yeah, you are right, when I was saying Norway style deal I was thinking more about the free movement of people included.

I wouldn't expect anything else that the imposition of the Euro and schengen (without any kind of rebate of course) which would already be a huge lose for the UK.
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>>72924353
>>72924443
I never would know Algeria and France are still in this bad term after neary half decade from independence if I didn't read this thread. Why though? Did France not do something they ask? (Reparations...etc)
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>Britain leaves
>English ceases to be an official language
>Scottland comes back
>everyone has to speak like this
https://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenBSD
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>>72924382
This is what makes me the most angry with some of our politicians. Every party except the Conservatives is asking our Government to guarantee the right to remain for European nationals after brexit. But let's imagine we did that and the EU said UK nationals did not have the right to remain in Europe. We'd have to give something up for them to stay there, or simply have them return to us and face (an even worse) housing crisis.

I don't think anyones going to be forced to leave though that would be mental.
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>>72924609
anything less than*
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>>72924620
>Why though? Did France not do something they ask?
I'm not really sure, I think we just stopped talking to eachother, but yeah we are in "bad" terms, I'd rather say "cold" terms
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>>72917973
we voted to leave because we want to escape Globalism
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>>72924609
norway has a shit deal though
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>>72924526
>No, only one language per member state and they have chosen other languages.
Irish wasn't even used or accepted as official language of the EU until 2007. Its a non-issue. Ireland will take up english for the advantages it gives them alone. If they don't Malta will.
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>>72909839
I really like this obese redneck pepe
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>>72924642
EU nationals currently living in the UK will definitely be allowed to stay, and in many cases apply for British citizenship.
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>>72924620
The war was terrible and a lot of exactions were commited, on both sides. It was so bad it started to turn into a civil war between local french and the metrolpole. France refused to recognize responsability for a long time, and bad blood still runs between the two countries.
We never really managed to reconciliate
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>>72924414
God, just how hard is it to build some pipes from Algeria to Europe? Or is 'it incompetence and corruption in working ?
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>>72924709
>we voted to leave because we want to escape Globalism
That would have been quite foolish of you, because you can't "escape" globalism.
You can only position yourself to be able to fend off foreign and international interests well. And you will not do that by being smaller and less influential.
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>>72924744
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>>72924609
Oh well in that case. The EU has repeatedly said that free movement of people (which Britain does not want) is intrinsically tied to all the economic relations (that the British government desperately wants).

The question boils down to accepting the EU terms which would in essence nullify the results of Brexit in all the ways that the EU sees fit.

The other option is going for a hard brexit to please the voters, which would lead to the worst case scenario with the border to Ireland being treated as an external border of the EU with the same status as the Finnish border toward Russia or the Bulgarian border toward Turkey.
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>>72924714
I know, they have no say in the EU eventhough they have to pay to get acces to the common market, but it would be good enough to make it look as if the UK got out of the union while keeping the most relevant parts.
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http://www.dw.com/en/uk-surge-in-german-citizenship-applications/a-19539469
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>>72924769
Sorry Greece, how many you got this time for us to pay?
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>>72924578
Hmmm, great answer, thanks. L visited Germany last year and found germans a bit cold but very reasonable and well mannered.
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>>72924620
nevermind, I found out why.
it's because the Algerian nationalist party continued it's war rethoric against France after the war
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>>72924843
pay denbts
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>>72924747
Nothing is definite at this point. A few months ago people said that the UK definitely will stay in the single market and now Hard Brexit is discussed as a viable option.
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>>72924859
>L visited Germany last year and found germans a bit cold but very reasonable and well mannered.
Yeah sorry, we are like that. Hope you had a good time regardless.
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>>72924747
I don't know about that. I can imagine in the worst case scenario for them they will have to earn above a certain amount in order to stay. I don't think they will be automatically given the right to stay unless the EU reciprocates.

Which I imagine it will do but just for the sake of argument. Our country is becoming a bit more wise when it comes to immigration. It used to be that studying a degree in the UK would give you the right to stay after it but they stopped that too a few years back. If they're willing to turn away graduates I'm sure they would turn away those on incomes of less than say 22k before benefits.
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>>72924806
>the border to Ireland being treated as an external border of the EU
No it wouldn't, we've discussed this.
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>>72924758
As the french said before, not all countries are willing to pay for said infraestructure. You should also expect some sort of corruption from the companies and goverments that benefit from the current system and most probably some other factors that I don't know too.
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Scotland, you say.
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>>72924920
We turn away students because they're easy targets to turn away.
May wants to get immigration figures down and the easiest way is to kick out students and housewives. Forget the terrorists, illegals and criminals because they're normally from bad countries and cry and moan in court for 10+ years about Human rights.
That's why she kicks out students.
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>>72924878
>Nothing is definite at this point

Fucking hell Sherlock Holmes has graced us with his presence. Everything is pointing to EU nationals being allowed to stay in the UK.
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>>72924749
That's unfortunate. If France had great relations with francophone north African countries .. Just think about all the potential. Well, at least France has "unbreakable" German-Franco relation now this time with the EU.
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>>72924877
How are you guys doing these days anyway? We're not really hearing anything in the media anymore.
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>>72924956
Irrelevant I say
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>>72924609
immigration was the single most important factor though
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>>72925055
No that's Wales.
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I used to like /pol/ and want nationalism in Europe but now you're just being arrogant cunts and acting like little children. It's embarrasing. /pol/ has become such a embarrassment.
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Is there a more brainwashed people than Germans throughout history?
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>>72925134
>Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they're in good company.
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>>72925075
I was referring to the germanon case of "collapse" of the UK though. I doubt that the people's opinion won't change if their wallet is hit that hard
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>>72924984
I don't think they could go to court and argue human rights as the government does have the power to change the requirements for who can stay. Right now the only thing giving them the right to stay is because they're an EU citizen. Should that no longer give them the right to remain they would just have to go. If they held dual-nationality or even revoked their original one then of course we couldn't do that, but otherwise I can't see them having a real argument to stay.

I think any sort of argument that revolves around them starting a family here or just being here for long could be solved by putting a cutoff for how long they would have had to have been here in order to remain.
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>>72925147
russians and burgers in the 70s/80s ?
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>>72925147
brexitears
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>>72925210

tears? We won mate
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>>72925165
lietterally /b/ in the essence minus the tranny porn
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>>72925101
>Population of Wales: 3 Million
>Population of Scotland: 5 Million
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>>72925147
Your nation went from an empire to voluntary vassaldom.

You will have to pay contributions and accept the majority of EU legislation to acces the single market.

This is the most likely outcome.
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>>72925232
>we won
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I'm looking forward to independent Scotland and North Ireland, but I'm not too familiar with the rest.

Like what even is Wales?
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>>72925290
>Like what even is Wales?

small england.
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>>72925147
leave voters
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>>72925260
Your nation went from an "empire" to voluntary vassaldom
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>>72925305
Wouldn't want that, then. Maybe they could become the 53rd state.
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>>72925235
That was the first turn to shit, the second game when they started going partisan and are now part timing as some kind of pathetic lobbying/astroturfing group.

>>72925260
The funny thing is that their heads still haven't shrunken from world power. "We will not allow this" "This will happen because we said so". They can't see that they are at the mercy of bigger fish now.
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>>72921266
>Why must you accept literally millions of unskilled labourers
the tomato fields aren't gonna cultivate themselves
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>>72925181
maybe, I hope it doesn't get to that point though. If we come back it shouldn't be on our hands and knees
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>>72925319
>steals his jokes

So this is the power of the British banter?
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>>72925260
Come on, the strain made by 2 world wars forced them to give away their Empire, it wasn't a voluntary act.
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>>72925237
>not counting the sheep population too
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>>72925333
>That was the first turn to shit
yep, I unironically think /b/ used to be fun. it's just utterly stupid and boring now.
And /pol/ is going on a """""crusade""""" and even if their ideas were based on something pretty cool, now they're just in cringe overdrive.

NICE trips and good post over all
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>>72913481
Awwwww.. French Pepe is kill :(
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>>72925360
It's a fact not a joke
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>>72925319
My nation went to a pile of rubble to the most influential state within the biggest trading block in the world.

Just think about it. In the end an independent Scotland will be more powerful than England. Scotland will get to vote and negociate (and even get a veto) on new EU legislation that you guys will have to accept as a condition to stay in the single market.

Don't belive me? Just look at Norway.
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>>72925478
The UK has more soft power and much, much more hard power than Germany. The only thing people like about Germany is their cars, that's about it.
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>>72925362
Vassaldom refers to them becoming a vassal to the EU from a member state with voting and veto powers. This is what they voted for.
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Who even knew they were in the union? if so, how come they're full of indians and pakis instead of syrians?
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>>72925478
>Hey look at the things my nation done but my nation didn't actually do it it was the Americans!
The Scottish economy is shit and Scotland is irrelevant
We aren't staying in the single market
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>>72925417
Thanks bro. /pol/ was great when it came out. It was all done for fun. Now they are about as subtle and apolitical as paid Russian trolls. It wouldn't be so bad if Trump actually paid them for their work but at this moment they are just really faggy activists.
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>>72925528
The hard power in this case is mostly irrelevant though, and I'm not too sure on the soft power either as Germany has a bigger economy than you, and remains as one of the leaders (some would even say as the sole leader) of a 15 trillion economic group.

What are you gonna do? Blackmail Germany with your Nukes?
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>the only english natural resources are delusion and pakistanis
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>>72925680
Trump is on our side
Europe doesn't mstter
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>>72925528
The only thing you got going for you over Germany are nukes and a few more frigates. They beat you in every other field. Remember that they are also leading the EU while you are not leading anything.
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>>72925650
>but at this moment they are just really faggy activists
completely agree, but I'll have to say the time when they found that flag was pretty cool, wasn't an easy task

Then again it doesn't make up for all the shit they do. they're basically a tumblr version of the right
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>>72925552
Oh, I was thinking about America, Suez and the decolonization of Africa and India t b h. Still, you could probably make a case that joining the EU was a result of those past events that were produced by the strain of the world wars I think.
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>>72925731
Germany doesn't have nukes?

This is an outrage. Someone give that poor nation some nukes!
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>>72925724
>the isolationist AMERICA FIRST EVERYONE ELSE FUCK OFF is on our side
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>>72925732
You and I are of the same mind my friend
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>>72925710
Your economy is Pakistan tier tho
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>>72925731
>The only thing you got going for you over Germany are nukes and a few more frigates

Not to mention large aircraft carriers, military equipment which is actually used and not stored away, numerous submarines, and a vastly superior airforce.
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>>72925731
>you are not leading anything
commonwealth? or am I genuinely wrong, this is just a suggestion but answer honestly
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>>72925803
Trump and the people around him want to destroy the EU
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>>72925724
Cool, so now you have a 15 Trillion ally to "fight" against the german 15 Trillion coallition.

Last time that happened was in 2003 when the USA decided to impose some tariffs in european steel, and the EU counterattacked by introducing even more tariffs in the most important exports of the most relevant states, politically targetting Bush's Republican Party.

At the end the USA gave up because you don't need to be a genious to realize that making a trade war for such petty things is actually stupid.
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>>72925724
>Trump is on our side
Holy shit. You aren't even aware of how pathetic that sounds.
>I'm gonna fetch my cousin he is bigger than you
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>>72925830
The Queen is the head of state of a number of Commonwealth nations, other than that it is what it is, a Commonwealth.
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>>72925815
your '''''country'''''is pakistani lol
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>>72925878
Germany is controlled by America you fucking loon
>>72925889
Don't care.
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>>72925830
As an international organization it is completely irrelevant to world politics, they aren't even trying to be anything geopolitical at the moment. The reason why is that its too diverse and too geographically isolated to effectively coordinate any form of policy.
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>>72925830
The result of the last Commonwealth Games meant that England got the right to rule over everyone else, yes.
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>>72925949
Only America?
Don't forget about Soros the Jews and whatever they feed you with in /pol/ mate.
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>>72925805
jesus that made my heart ake. Hope we'll meet one day, we'll have a good long talk about things.

don't have an appropriate reaction pic so here you go
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>>72925924
Scotland is so based, can't wait for you to shed that worthless flag.
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>>72925924
>We are 7% whiter than you!
Yeah let's see if you stay that way with the S"N"P in power
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Guys, just think about it. Britain stays in the single market and Scotland becomes an independent EU member.

Now whenver the Commission or the European Parliament are about to have a vote on a piece of legislation that affects the rUK as a member of the single market the rUK prime minister will have to take the next plane to Scotland to lobby(beg) them to respresent their interests.

Pretty hilarious if you think about it.
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>>72926029
Did you feel this way about us before we voted to leave the EU lol
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>>72925997
Please come live in France, Gemma. Those savages don't deserve you
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>>72926091
Someone swapped the ballots
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>>72926033
>scotland: doesn't elect paki mayors
>englandistan: elects paki mayors

i think we're fine, achmed.
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>>72926080
>Britain stays in the single market
Not going to happen
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>>72925949
Yeah that's why we fought in Iraq, wait you guys fought in the biggest foreign policy blunder of this millennium.
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>>72925997
>>72926093
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>>72926135
The SNP is more cucked than labour but whatever
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>>72925905
>>72925964
>>72925969
THANK YOU for your contributions
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>>72926151
HNNGGGG

fuck she's such a qt mummy
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>>72926151
Hnnf, more than the sex scene in Gemma Bovary, it was her accent when she talked in french that made me diamond
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Hmm, I wonder why Brits no longer feel like they're a part of Europe...?
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>>72925997
Looking forward to that day
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>>72926172
>but whatever

is that what you said when your daughter gave birth to a brown baby lol
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>>72926141
You did fight in Iraq
>Stop killing brown people for money!
Fuck off cuck
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>>72926228
Should have been Lara Croft, yet they chose that swarthy Swede with a shit-tier body.
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>>72926250
>That isn't going to happen when the SNP get in power
Alright lad
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>>72926262
We only spied in Iraq, really.

>for money
I'd understand it if you did it for money, but I don't think Britain made any with it.
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>>72926328
>but I don't think Britain made any with it.
http://www.ethicalconsumer.org/commentanalysis/corporatewatch/iraqwarprofits.aspx
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>>72926304
SNP have been in power for like 9 years, mohammed, and we've never seen anything like the levels of islamification and cuckoldry that happens south of the border.

keep grasping at straws, or children - whatever you pakis prefer.
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>>72926383
>hich details the involvement of 89 of the British companies that have profited from the invasion to the tune of a total £1.1 billion.
against

>As of March 2006, approximately £4.5 billion ($6.8 billion) had been spent by the United Kingdom in Iraq
>http://www.iraqanalysis.org/publications/235

Basic math tells me you didn't run green numbers on this business investment.
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>>72926414
>Scottish parliament
>Power
Come on lad
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>>72926414
Because you're not allowed to.
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>>72926499
It's about the troops
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>>72926499
Not to mention the fact that most of the payoff for those corporations were, well, kept inside the corporation and paid to share holders instead of returning to the British taxpayer. There is nothing anglos love more than using state assets to enrich big business.
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>>72926585
You made a profit in troops? I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean to say here.
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>>72926640
Corporations are people idiot
>>72926646
We was going to spend that money on our troops either way
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>>72926744
>We was going to spend that money on our troops either way
No you weren't.
>The 2002 Pre-Budget Report set aside £1 billion to enable the armed forces to prepare for the coming invasion of Iraq[2]. By the time of the Budget in March 2003, UK forces were in Iraq. The Chancellor increased the amount to £3 billion and it became known as ‘the Special Reserve’[3]. In the 2003 Pre-Budget Report another £500 million was added for financial year 2003-04 and a further £300 million for 2004-05; bringing the total up to £3.8 billion[4]
This was all money raised specifically for the invasion, not on running costs of general military expenditure, which is a ludicrous idea anyway, you can't run a active military operation on daily maintanance expenditure.
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>>72926832
Better than giving it to RAPEFUGEES
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>>72926890
Would have been better invested building a huge wall around your island then. Wouldn't have cost the lives of over 170 british people either.
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>>72926744
>>72926890
Are you literally chavs? At this point I don't even think you are trolling.
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>>72926744
>We was

proxy or pajeet?
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>>72926965
Memeing, I'm pretty sure.
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>>72926938
how would we get our water?
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>>72927039
Import it from the Commonwealth according to Brexiters.
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>>72926940
Oh so know you're being classist?
so much for the stand up for tha poor left mate
>>72926965
It's a regional thing
>>72926985
Piss off
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>>72927094
Commonwealth=Africa+Asia

It would get out of date lad
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>>72927105
Whats classist about associating uninformed posts with people of low education?
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>>72927225
Chav=Council house and violent

You are an enemy of the poor! You'd rather give money to pakis who couldn't even right really than your own poor?

Yeah
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>>72927105
Cool, I've only been to the UK twice so I'm pretty bad at getting the dialects and such, I'm pretty ignorant at whatever is left out of the "standard" english books.

>>72926985
Sometimes shitposting is behind so many layers of irony that it gets difficult to follow it tbqh.
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>>72927286
Is that some kind of bible verse? I don't get it
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>>72923901
fuck you and your so-called union. we don't need saving from the likes of you vultures. you have no friends in Europe, none. and take your fucking pensioners and chavs with you too.
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>>72927335
Do you hate me because I'm English?
>>72927346
Oh so am the dumb one but you can't even understand what I'am saying?

Yeah so much for "Chav" bitch
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>>72927451
>you have no friends in Europe
Why are you so angry that we decided to leave then?

We know Europeans hate us that;s why we left/leave
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>>72927463
lol no, My english teacher was from Poole and a friend of mine is from Southampton, his parents divorced and his mother is now living in Spain.
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>>72927463
I assumed you were trolling

To address your point then. No I would prefer to give the taxpayer money to the poor already in the country than to immigrants.
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>>72927565
Oh so you're happy with our money now but you still want to disrespect us?

Typical Spaniard acting like a bloody pirate
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>>72927530
i'm not, i'm actually happy. now that you're gone, we'll actually be able to establish a federal army, and do many of the other highly necessary things you assholes have blocked ever since you joined.

only people i see butthurt about it are the remoaners in the uk, everyone else is either happy or doesn't give a shit.
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>>72927623
That's why you support the EU? HAHA muslim lover
>>72927670
Stay happy then.
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>>72927752
i will
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>>72927752
I support the EU because without it Europe will be divided and conquered. I'd prefer Sweden to be completely independent but the world isn't giving us that option anymore so I'll go for the second best, independent Europe.
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>>72926890
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>>72927796
pretty much this.
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>>72927796
EU is gonna conquer us with the muslims

Russia and America is being the good guys

Do you support the bad guys?
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>>72927752
>HAHA muslim lover
You realise that you got way more muslims and about the same amount in % of population as they do, right?
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>>72927854
Okay you got me. Well played.
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>>72927853
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>>72927854
you realize the muds you have in your island came from the commonwealth, right? the EU didn't send any fucking pakis your way, your own politicians did.
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>>72927912
wrong country to throw that at, nigel. i'll just leave this here.
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>>72927854
Hyperbole and a manichean worldview doesn't make your position look more reasonable.
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>>72927999
We'll see

See you in the caliphate of Eurabia!
>>72927930
Yeah fuck labour but that aint gonna get the turks from not flooding in
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>>72928039
>You have more muslims than us
Actually we have roughly the same amount. Possibly even less.
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>>72928039
These are the statements of a person who knows nothing about this subject. >>72927854 So I laugh because I know my shit.

Let me ask you this, what do you work with?
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>>72928169
>>72928196
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>>72928263
>>72928196
Okay so you're on the dole. Which means you probably need to apply for benefits. Now I don't know anything about applying for benefits. And if I suggested that shitting on the application paper and rubbing one off when meeting the social worker would get you more benefits, you would say. No, that wont work. And you would safely be able to say that because you know all about applying for benefits.

Thats analogous with the assertions of you and your fellow brexiteers in this thread arguing with me and that German guy.
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>>72913458
>the EU nations really have lost sovereignty.
yes exactly why the EU is dying now. People are waking up

>>72913542
muh Unitded States of Europe
it will never happen retard

>>72918221
>EU nations are free to seek free trade agreements
I'm in a political union with this retard. Fuck me Svexit please
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>>72928435
post feet
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>>72917973
>survive the ill effects of globalism
>by adopting globalism
Pekka you're drunk

>>72917973
>and start competing with great powers like US, China and Russia.
TOP KEK the EU stands no chance against the US and China
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>>72928692
>>survive the ill effects of globalism
>>by adopting globalism
>Pekka you're drunk
The EU isn't globalism. Actually its the opposite, small nation states would be more globalistic since they wouldn't 'need' a EU in a rampantly globalist society. We'd just have free trade deals with everyone and free movement with everyone.
This is obviously a terrible idea for multiple reasons. The EU is a protection against the ills of globalisation, because a unified european economic and trading block is much better equipped to negotiate and deal with international and global business interests than any individual country could hope to be.

>TOP KEK the EU stands no chance against the US and China
Not right now, but there is nothing preventing us from getting there besides our own lack of will to see it done.
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>Globalism refers to a group of ideologies that advocate the concept of globalization. It tends to advocate for such policies as increases in immigration, free trade, lowering tariffs, interventionism and global governance.


EU: the definition.
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>>72927670
>>72927794
>establish a federal army
>posting that disgusting EU flag
seriously how can you be this much of a traitor to your own nation? Do you feel no belonging to Portugal whatsoever?
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>>72927796
literally this
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>>72928806
>The EU isn't globalism
yes it is.
>The EU is a protection against the ills of globalisation, because a unified european economic and trading block is much better equipped to negotiate and deal with international and global business interests than any individual country could hope to be.
nope we've sold out our nations to international banks and mega corporations and a bunch of corrupt fucks in Brussels. The EU might have worked if it was only the Northern European states. As soon as the EU declared itself an Empire and started expanding to southern and Eastern Europe it was doomed to fail.
Hopefully this mistake won't be repeated once the EU is gone. I'd much rather have a free trade zone and nothing else with Europe

>Not right now, but there is nothing preventing us from getting there besides our own lack of will to see it done.
in doing so we would destroy our own nations and cultures, it's not worth it and again we would never achieve US levels of economic and military power, we simply don't have enough land or resources to do so. Also the US still has a huge amount of untouched lands and resources to continue growing, Europe has already reached high density in many areas, we will never be a superpower no matter how much you EU nationalists wants it to happen.

We have NATO to keep Russia away, we don't need to give up our sovereignity
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