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Name one thing you agree with leftists on

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There's gotta be something. Here, I'll start.

Recreational drugs should be totally and completely legalized with no conditions.
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This isn't /pol/
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Communes make everything easier.
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dude
weed
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Abortion is good
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Cities should be designed with public transport in mind. People who drive will have to cover the expenses themselves, with no subsidization by the city's inhabitants.
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>>72863786
I agree then I'd finally be able to get a job because everyone else would be fucking themselves over

Just means more opportunities for sober people in the long run

Pls legalize all drugs plsssss
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I believe abortion has a utility in certain medical emergencies; I do not believe it should be used because a club slut didn't keep her legs closed.
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Approaching all political issues in a dichotomous, leftist snowflake vs right-wing bigot manner shows how utterly worthless you are as a voter.

Society is far too complex for that, you don't even care about America, just getting back at leftists and republicans
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>>72863786
But that's libertarian right/left
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>>72864016
as if modern /pol/ knows the difference
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>>72863786
i agree with leftists on everything except for economics
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race doesn't matter
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seizing the means
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Everything. Go back to /pol/ and kill yourself.
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>>72863786

>Recreational drugs should be totally and completely legalized with no conditions.

Leftists don't generally believe this, they just want weed legalized.

Universal healthcare and legalized heroin are not compatible
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>>72864049
memes*
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>>72863814
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>>72863845
>>72864031
>>72864032
literally these
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>>72863786
diversity is beautiful and a good thing for everyone.
more diverse the society=less xenophobia, racism, nazism and fewer conflicts and crimes based on any kind of xenophobia
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>>72864032
well, I should specify, I mean it doesn't matter in terms of potential of a country to develop, has no bearing on what drives people to have more crime and be shittier than others, it doesn't matter; skin and body shape is just a mask. I guess I think the reason for different development levels of historical civilizations is the environment theory. I don't think that in a nation-state, any member of any race can assimilate in huge numbers. In small numbers yes, but not big ones. I like what de gaulle said:

>It is very good that there be yellow Frenchmen, black Frenchmen, brown Frenchmen. They prove that France is open to all races and that she has a universal mission. But on the condition that they remain a small minority. Otherwise, France would no longer be France. We are after all primarily a European people of the white race, of Greek and Latin culture, and of the Christian faith. Try to mix oil and vinegar. Shake the bottle. In a moment they will separate again. Arabs are Arabs and French are French. Do you believe that the French nation can absorb ten million Muslims, who perhaps tomorrow will be twenty million and the day after forty million? If we adopt integration, if all the Arabs and Berbers of Algeria were considered as Frenchmen, what would prevent them from coming to settle in mainland France where the standard of living is so much higher? My village would no longer be called Colombey-les-Deux-Eglises, but Colombey-les-deux-Mosquées!
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>>72863839
Yes, holy SHIT and nobody's worse than the US here
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>>72864085

>more diverse the society=less xenophobia, racism, nazism and fewer conflicts and crimes based on any kind of xenophobia

That's the exact opposite of the truth

More diversity = More racial tension = More race based hatred = More conflict = More crimes based on racially rooted conflict

Homogeneous societies are the best way to avoid racism and hate crimes.
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>>72863899
t. bitter virgin
no one can force a woman to keep the child. that's literally like the most anti-human thing ever. anti-abortion monkeys basically want to turn woman into some sort of living incubator
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Literally everything
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>>72864122
but the problem is that homogenous societies can't exist anymore. national state is joke.
also i'm talking mostly about interbreeding. a person whose parents are of different races will be more tolerant. and his kids will be even more so.
interbreeding is a good thing.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wATzZpDlKtc
the aesthetic is good
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>>72864179
>but the problem is that homogenous societies can't exist anymore. national state is joke.

yeah but see that's symbolic of a whole lot of shit other than itself. you can't just so simply say "lol nationality is dead let's just forget about it" with huge consequences

I would have to agree that the world is a radically different place and change happens at a faster pace every day. But just saying fuck it all doesn't seem like a good solution.

anyway the goal of society isn't to be "tolerant", if a hapa kid is more "tolerant" he actually loses a lot of other shit. I mean, providing that's even true. I have some anecdotal evidence to the contrary at least.
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>>72864259
by hapa I just mean part white anything really
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>>72863786
Child welfare only.

>Drugs are degenerate
>Human beings are not equal
>Africans are inferior
>There are only two genders; Male and Female
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Pretty much everything except immigration
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>>72864179
>>72864122

As an addendum it is worth nothing that India, one of the most ethnically and culturally diverse countries in the world, is also by far one of the most racially and culturally intolerant ones.
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>>72863786
Healthcare should be more accessible, but fuck abortion. I'm not paying so some whore who can't control her alcoholism literally murders her child.
Also, pot for everyone.
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>>72864135
t. country with a 75% abortion rate
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>>72863786
There is too much income inequality.

I'm a skilled worker and should be able to afford my own apartment, it was possible for older generations, but far too expensive now
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>>72864457
But then how do you argue Japan, a 99% homogeneous country?
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>>72864583
and bans muslims completely. Sounds like heaven
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>>72863899

I personally don't think that's the kind of person who should be raising children anyway. Her kids would become shitty adults.

Abortion is better
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Abortion is a very poor method of birth control anyway, it's expensive, invasive, dangerous to the woman's health, and could leave her sterilized. There's no need for that whatsoever when you can buy birth control devices at your local Wal-Mart.
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>>72863786
Universal vaccination programs. They save lives and money.
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Pornography is a social necessity since it acts as a dummy or pacifier to allow people to indulge their sexual fantasies without going out and raping.
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>>72864551
yes and i see nothing wrong with it. if a woman wants to abort the child she is free to do it
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Gays should have more parental rights than breeding couples. Jus sayin
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>>72864793
If it prevents more Russians from being born, then not such a bad thing, no?
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>>72864879
Someone take this guy's car keys
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>>72864661

>There's no need for that whatsoever when you can buy birth control devices at your local Wal-Mart.

Clearly there is since birth control devices are available and people still, you know, need abortions.

Sure banning abortions would drive SOME people to be more careful, but the people who wouldn't are the very most reckless, exactly the people we most DON'T want to be raising kids.
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>>72865001

I don't get it

That's exactly what I said.

India is racially and culturally intolerant, meaning that everyone hates each other.

That's LITERALLY what I said

What even the fuck
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>>72864892
i would like to see more russians being born but we can't forcefully make women give a birth to russian kids.
also don't forget that many of those girls get impregnated not only by russian so many of suck kids would be mixed. i'm not saying that's mixed kids are a bad thing, just responding to your question that says 'russians'
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>>72865060
The abortion rate in the US dramatically fell off after the early 80s. Really, the only demographic that still gets them in significant numbers are blacks.
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>>72865130

>Really, the only demographic that still gets them in significant numbers are blacks.

Like I said, the people we most don't want to be raising kids.
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>>72863786
I have several things:

>services such as education and healthcare should be both publicly owned and publicly funded
>we should have a strong centralised state, and the most important corporations should be publicly owned
>rigid collective agreements should prevent employers from treating their employees like shit
>shit like TTIP should never be allowed to plague us
>it's fully acceptable to have higher taxes to pay for all this
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>>72865130
That's because like Chappelle implied, we're not good at planning, and planned parenthood is for people who don't plan at all
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>>72865130
Anyway, it's hard to find abortion clinics and there's a huge social stigma about using them. If you have one in your town, it will probably get picketed routinely and the staff get regular death threats.
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>>72865080
>>72865001
>>72864457
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>>72863786
What the fuck is a "leftist? Sounds like /pol/ speak for anyone who isn't some cancerous traditional conservative.
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>>72865292
It kinda is, but usually, it's not applied to traditional socialists.

A "leftist" is more a term for a liberal who is perfectly fine with exploiting and mistreating the poor, as long as it's done in an inclusive and politically correct way.
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>>72863845
>I'd finally be able to get a job because everyone else would be fucking themselves over
Alcohol already exists so the premise of your condition is meaningless.
The real reason you can't get work is because you're worthless as a human being, anon.
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>>72863800
This. Fuck off op nigger
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Communism is good.
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>>72865246
>>72865123

I still don't get it
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I'll list the conditions under which abortion is acceptable:

*The mother is under 16 or over 38
*Incest
*The baby would have obvious birth defects (Down's, anencephaly, etc)
*The mother could not give birth safely

That about covers it.
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Dutch politics aren't two dimensional.

Our extreme left tends to defend values like privacy better though, which I agree on.
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>>72865416
What about post-natal abortions? If the mother or father doesn't like the little shit?
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The one thing I agree with them on is probably the whole communism thing.

I also believe that class is the most universal of all social categories.
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>>72865444
I'm sorry your father beat you, Ali.
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>>72865416
Would anencephaly even count as abortion? Technically, delivery of an anencephalic fetus is a stillbirth. It was spontaneously aborted when its forebrain failed to develop, the main body was just left in the womb.
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>>72865444
That's called infanticide.
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>>72865554
They usually live a few hours/days if born alive. Most of them are aborted, but occasionally the parents decide to have the baby to donate its organs. Or they're extreme Christfags.
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Everything except anything that forces me to believe in something.
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>>72863899

Backwards ameritard.
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>>72865496
He almost never did, he maintained a strict disciplinary code. We were more afraid of disappointing him than getting beat.

>>72865554
Classical Obstetric classification, spontaneous vs. induced/elective so it wouldn't have similar legal significance unless you somehow find a way to reproduce the chemical sequence that leads to it or worse, induces it.
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>>72863899
But do you think that a child should grow up with a club slut as its mother?

Why do pro-lifers stop giving a shit about babbies as soon as they're born?
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>>72863786
I am a leftist, check your privilege your /pol/faggot, fuck off and and stop assuming everyone shares your retarded worldview.
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>>72865608
This is guy who got some bitch pregnant and she won't abort it because Christard and now he has to pay for it.
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I am Russian, Comunist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgGzAKP_HuM
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Its funny how all of these positions (abortion rights, environmentalism, legalizing drugs etc.) are always considered to be Leftist positions while in reality there are a fuckton of people (and even many experts/thinkers) who also support all of that but are rather right-leaning

Yet everythin bad from destroying nature to greedy corporations is linked with "le ebil Conservative Republicans"

The Left really has won the Culture War
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>>72865579
>live
Maybe the US system is different, but we define clinical death as brain death.
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>>72865640
You think maybe it would encourage the whore to think twice before being boned in da club by 20 niggers?
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I'm fairly left myself.
Really I only ever side against the left on certain radical social issues, but that's due to my ideologies being more classically liberal.
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>>72865623
So in a country that criminalizes abortion, a person denying folic acid to the pregnant woman could be held liable?
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>>72865416
Would you rather have kids that grow up in dysfunctional, poor family that didn't even want kids.

And if you claim that people who get unwanted pregnancies because they're "stupid sluts", would you really want them to raise kids?

I wished more people practiced birth control.
Poor people (which consist mostly out of immigrants here) poop out so much kids, it's worrying and I believe unsustainable in the long run.
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>>72863786
fuck economic lobbys. They should have no say in politics.
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>>72865695
I guess "alive" in the sense that the heart and other organs are functioning, since those are controlled by the brain stem. And check out the extreme Christfags arguing in the comment section here (although this baby did have some cortical material and wasn't completely braindead).

http://liveactionnews.org/miracle-baby-born-with-anencephaly-defies-the-odds-turns-one/
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lower the age of concent to 16
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>>72865707
But assuming she still does get boned? Do you think it will be good for a child to grow up in that environment?

People fuck like rabbits and get pregnant, regardless of stigmas around abortion. It's more noticable among poor people, but it's definitly a thing.

Abortion is one of few ways in which we can halt the negative consequences of poor people fucking like rabbits. We'll end up with less neglected children who become criminals and youth delinquents.

More abortions could probably halt the massive population growth in Africa, too.
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>>72865732
>I wished more people practiced birth control.
>Poor people (which consist mostly out of immigrants here) poop out so much kids, it's worrying and I believe unsustainable in the long run

It's inevitable since Europeans don't have enough kids and immigrants end up being needed for unskilled labor.
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>>72865805
>>72865732

That was covered in >>72864661
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>>72865725
Very very untenable, she could eat leafy greens have that myelinization folate

Also we have thousands of abortions here, brown and black college girls need some lovin', some guy said there was lots of lesbianism as well
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>>72865841

It wasn't

Preventative birth control doesn't stop people needing abortions.

No, not even if they know before hand they can't get one legally.
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We can force Europe to have kinds via brain washing.

Seriously what the hell is going on.

What the hell is going on, We have the technology.

Lower the age of concent to 16 and Spam porn 24/7

Boom kids.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvS351QKFV4
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>>72865863
>Preventative birth control doesn't stop people needing abortions
Uhhh wasn't that supposed to be whole point of birth control pills?
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I heard other side of argument on /pol/ the other day that birth control encourages promiscuity since whores will think twice if there's a chance of getting preggers.
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>>72865841
>>72864661
>There's no need for that whatsoever when you can buy birth control devices at your local Wal-Mart.

Birth control is not bulletproof. They all have their failure rates, unless you go surgical.

Also mistakes and accidents, however dumb, do happen. You can say "well, it's your fault and now you have to deal with it", but then you just end up with disgruntled parents who aren't ready for a kid.

>>72865809
>It's inevitable since Europeans don't have enough kids and immigrants end up being needed for unskilled labor.

With automation on the rise, this well end in a lot of unemployed breeding machines.
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>>72865957
>/pol/
What's their beef with abortion anyway?

Fetuses have no human cognition. Even though they are human, nothing resembling a human or even a babby will be lost.

>encourages promiscuity
Why would anyone care about promiscuity?

Contraceptives, HIV medicines and abortion effectively remove the dangers surrounding sexuality. The only reason to still complain about promiscuity after that is because other people having fun hurts your feefees.
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the HIV rates are 60+% amongst blacks.

They are being imported to White countries mainstreem.

What the fuck...

Americans should perhaps consider, stop funding Israel.

Maybe its time to think about Only ourselves.

Its time to consider Letting Isreal go.
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How do we stop supporting Israel, How do we go our own ways?

How do we honestly start to go our seperate ways?

How do we Start to seperate from Israel?
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>>72866261
>>72866165

Stop capitalizing Random words you Mong.
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EU state
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>>72866063
Hambeast feminist detected.
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>>72866026
>With automation on the rise
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>>72864179
>>homogenous societies can't exist anymore
>what is Japan
>what is any European country until 5 years ago
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>>72864661
> invasive, dangerous to the woman's health, and could leave her sterilized
lies lies lies
did you read that at conservapedia?
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>>72865786
Holy shit.
Neuroscience hasn't cracked the mystery of suffering, but I wonder if anencephalic babies can feel some sort of agony due to their condition. They're in constant distress, so I wouldn't rule it out. In that case, keeping one alive is torture.
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Automation is a meme. If it were true, nobody would be importing millions of Third World toilet cleaners since a robot would be doing that.
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>>72866568
We're not importing employable people though. Nobody here wants to hire an African.
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>>72866564
They have no cerebral cortex, so they're absolutely unconscious and unaware of anything.
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>>72866585
Bullshit, European cunts are importing scores of Ukrainians and Romanians for low wage jobs. We have thousands of them here.
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>>72866626
Stop littering around and shitting on floors, then you won't need so many toilet and street cleaners desu.
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>>72866303
good post
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Stop supporting Israel.

Start supporting White culture instead.

I think its time to target israel is our enemy.

Why?

Think!

Its time to more than think about us.
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>>72866667
As soon as you stop hiring thousands of shitskins from Central Asia to clean your toilets.
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>>72865957
That's a good point actually; you can very well argue that easy access to birth control encourages women to be whores.
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>>72866724
They are hired for money laundries and shady bribery schemes, but you are Europe after all, there is no such thing as bribery in Czechia, right?
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>>72866776
>Russian accusing any other cunt of corruption
This is troll right?
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>>72866856
>pepik's reading comprehension
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workers rights without the need for corrupt unions
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>>72866600
Somehow that's extremely disturbing. Existence without consciousness.
Sudanbro, help me out. Can a human suffer without having a cerebral cortex?
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>>72866920
Do more business with Funland, less need for corruption and plenty of good opportunities.
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Birth control is not a conservitive virtue.

Birth control is only about increasing population.

When You get older You will understad.

I think we need to birth control Nazi style Jews, if You want to be evil and troll.
Maybe we should? the people who really want to make peple look bad.
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>>72866998
>Can a human suffer without having a cerebral cortex?

No. You'd be completely absent any cognitive function. There would only be the automatic reflexes controlled by the brain stem and spinal cord.
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>>72866998

>Existence without consciousness

There is no such thing.

Something without a consciousness doesn't exist as a person.

They only "exist" in the same way a potato exists, and there's nothing particularly disturbing about potatoes
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>>72866998
Sorry for the late response, I closed a lot of tabs

>>72867203
Basically you'd need to disable processing of noxious signals in the brainstem to eliminate all of it, those spinothalamic tracts need a higher centre, independent of spinal intermediary processing

Very difficult t.b.h.
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There was the so-called Baby K case in the early 90s when a woman who gave birth to an anencephalitic baby and objected to the hospital's insistence on terminating life support because she was an extreme Christfag. Ultimately the baby was dispatched to a nursing home type of facility where she died after 2 years.
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>>72867341
Baby K reserved NICU resources that could've been used for a viable newborn. Medical care is not inexhaustible, parents need to know this.
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>>72864135
>Man-made incubator
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I've also heard cases of Orthodox Jews refusing to terminate life support to an obviously braindead family member.
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First of all, the Jew refused to terminate life support because he was probobly lacking Hookers and Beer.

Check it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mKPCJUW2I4
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4chan
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>>72867648
If you reserve a hospital bed for a braindead human, you're a killer by proxy.
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>>72863786
these are slavic girls u faggot.
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>>72867913
You're from Georgia, sweet Georgia
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>>72867933
and history books unfold ya
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>>72867913
>russian
>slavic
whatever you say, gogi
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>>72863845
This guy is the poster child for why drugs shouldn't be legalized.
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Seriously, I hate niggers and Muslims

http://www.mid-day.com/articles/holy-cow-man-arrested-for-having-sex-with-animals-walks-free/15146085

I want to needles and poison exposive.

I want to fly pieces f glass aids on top of the muslim world so they can pray carpet on top of the infected pieces of glass as they prey.

Jews next.

So How is Your day going?
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>>72868197

What the fuck are you smoking
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>>72868197
This man is on some seriously good stuff, help a brotha out my friend, who's your source?
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>>72868248
hello fellow southerner, you everywhere
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>>72863786
People should have the choice of abortion.

That beign said anyone who kills their own children should be shunned and cast out of society
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>>72868262
I am always everywhere, like Nitrogen, like Coca-Cola, like the stench of ballsweat on a hot day
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>>72868318
>People should have the choice of abortion.
>That beign said anyone who kills their own children should be shunned and cast out of society

>abortion is ok
>but people who kill their child should be societally shunned
Uh...
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>>72863786
/pol/ is cancer
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>>72863786
Weed should be decriminalized, abortion should be legal, homosexuals should be allowed to marry, and
>>72863839
What this guy said
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>>72868411
What i mean is that it should legally be okay, but socially unacceptable.
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Seeing as I am a moderate leftist there's a lot I agree with.
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>>72865217
>>72865130
Serious question. how come Americans still have huge WWII-level battles over abortion when it's been legalized there for over 40 years?
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>>72868713
Because it was not legalized in a democratic fashion, but with an arbitrary Supreme Court ruling that had no legal basis behind it, and left-wing lobbyists for decades have stubbornly resisted allowing the legal status of abortion to be decided at the ballot box.
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We should stop being to nice.

Time to think about bad things.
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>>72863786
abortion
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>>72868803
That's not to say people wouldn't object to abortion anyway, especially Christfags, but the way in which it was legalized and the fact that SJWs don't want it voted on is what upsets everyone.
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>>72868411

How do you not grasp this content?

Something being objectionable doesn't mean it should be made illegal.

Think of it like people who fap to loli.

It's just drawings, so banning it doesn't make any sense.

But if you admit publicly that you jerk it to drawings of kids getting done up the butt you will rather swiftly find yourself short on people willing to associate with you, legal or not.
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>ITT: /pol/ and /v/ kids first time on /int/
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Blacks lives matter is making fun of us.

What will You tell Your kids?

Or let angry me have a point?

You are white... You cannot think, You are white therefore the nigger said You are Stupid.

Seriously.

If any one has a plan to exterminate niggers let me in.
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>>72868411
>>72868546
>>72869015

abortion more like aboriginalstion amrite
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>>72869134
Get yourself together man
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I want to get creative.

Lets think about it.
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Im a retard, its a tuesday.
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>>72869495

Please stop
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>>72863786
Environmental conservation
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Done...
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>>72863786
I think all leftists can agree that leftism is dead and the supposed 'leftists' are actually humanitarian liberals.
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>>72863786
women are equal
i despise third wave feminism anyway
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>>72869015
Fapping to a drawing isn't killing a baby though.
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>>72863786
God doesn't exist
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>>72863786
Why just recreational drugs?

It's my body, right? People accept that argument for abortion, why not drugs? I should be able to put whatever I want into my body. If I want to snort Drano, is the the gubment gonna make Drano illegal? It's none of their fn business as long as I accept responsibility for the consequences.
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We must safe the enviroment.
TITIP is a shit. A shit.
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>>72868318
That all depends on when you believe a human fetus becomes endowed with the natural rights described by the constitution.
Right now the law considers that to be the moment of birth, but to me that definition seems completely inadequate. With the help of modern science a fetus becomes viable much, much earlier than the moment of birth. Anyone denying that is simply a science denier.

Also, explain to me how many states have laws where someone can be charged with murder or manslaughter for killing a fetus (even in an accident) and yet the mother is legally protected to do the same thing by abortion?
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>>72870810

>It's none of their fn business as long as I accept responsibility for the consequences.

See, the problem is that in a state that provides universal healthcare you DON'T accept responsibility for the consequences, the government does.
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Abortion...
It's her body...

No it's not. A fetus has different DNA from the mother = not part of her body.
Also, if you took the DNA of the fetus and used the exact same test that is currently used in court to identify a unique individual, that test would identify a fetus as a unique individual, a different individual from the mother.
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>>72864122

You can have multiracial societies, the problem is certain ethnicities and cultures,
Mexico has no racial tensions...
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>>72871216
That's a flaw in that type of system. My rights should come before health care laws.
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>>72871421

It doesn't matter if the fetus is a separate being, because first of all it isn't a person because it doesn't have a consciousness

Secondly, provided that the fetus is unwanted, it is basically a parasite on the mother's body, it doesn't have a right to utilize her against her will.
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>>72871584
>basically a parasite on the mother's body

No it's not. It is a gestating human fetus. You are a science denier.
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>>72871584
>it isn't a person because it doesn't have a consciousness
So would you agree that the detection of brain activity should be used to determine if a fetus is a considered an individual with rights?
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>>72871731

>No it's not.

Yes, it is, an unwanted fetus 100% fits the definition of a parasite

It's an a life-form that has attached itself to the host, derives nutrients by siphoning them from the host, reduces the physical fitness of the host and, in extreme cases, even threatens her life.
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>>72871922
Do you believe that it is a gestating human fetus also?
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>>72871922
An infant child would also fit your definition of a parasite. If an infant child is unwanted, should the mother be legally allowed to kill it?
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>>72863786
I'm liberal when it comes to most things. the only thing I'm more conservative leaning on is immigration. Oh and I think Islam is a cancer on western civilization that needs to be wiped out at all costs. There is no way that Islam and western values like freedom of speech, equality of all people, etc. can live side by side. But yeah, everything else I'm pretty liberal about.
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>>72864056
This
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>>72864056
>>72872162
Like, literally everything?
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>>72864661
Surgery is a very poor method of dealing with infections anyway, it's expensive, invasive, dangerous to the person's health, and could leave him/her scarred. There's no need for that whatsoever when you can buy anti-septics and plasters at your local Wal-Mart.
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>>72871966

Yes?

That doesn't mean it isn't parasitic.

A hobo that's snuck into your house is a human too, that doesn't give it the right to squat on your property and the fact that he might freeze to death if you throw him out doesn't mean you shouldn't be allowed to.

No matter how dire the situation he does not have the right to place his plight above your right to autonomy.

Even if you accidentally left your door open and your recklessness allowed him to slip in or invited him inside conciously initially you would STILL have the right to throw him out.

The fetus will die if removed from the mother, but it's right to continue living does not supersede the mother's right to her own body.

And keep in mind that I don't actually accept that the fetus as rights at all, since it isn't a person. So even conceding to a premise I don't believe in abortion should still be permissible

>>72872079

Firstly it's worth pointing out that an infant child doesn't actually fit the definition of parasitism I just laid out.

Secondly, a mother can get rid of an infant child simply by handing it over to the state, there is no way to get rid of a gestating fetus except for abortion.
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>>72865217
Come the fuck on. The stigma is literally there because people are still unsure if it's okay. Just fucking ease on the religious backward views, and join the future.
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Public transport is fundamentally good and only flawed in execution.
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>>72868411
When does the fetus become a child though?

Do you commit geonicide everytime you nut? You have to draw a line, and abortion before that line should be legal.
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>>72872252
No, but the questions I share a socialist view on, far outweighs the "right" ones.

I'm fucking tired of /pol/-troopers always assuming that everyone on this bulgarian bob-sledding forum share their views, and that the norm should be an un-empathetic, conservative, christian right.
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>>72872663
Hey man, I was just asking. This is me right here >>72872112 so I'm far from a /pol/tard. I just found it hard to believe that anyone's views could align 100% with either the left or the right.
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This is literally a /pol/ thread.
Politics don't belong here
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>>72872800
I would agree with you about Islam standing in the way of humanitarian rights and democracy.

I would say the same about most religions though, maybe except Buddhism which is pretty chill about that.

Sorry for coming across as harsh. I'm interested in your definition of "the left" and "the right" though. Do you mean general ideas and values and on which side they would be catogerized on and that you find it hard to believe that a person's views would all fall under one spectrum, or do you mean your current U.S politics?

Compared to U.S politics, I'm fairly sure that my views would be considered extremely much left for the most part.
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borders are racist and should be completely open
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>>72869786
Leftism used to be about economic views mainly. But that has changed, maybe due to that their fight is over - workers in western world generally have it good so most have switched to social issues.
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Higher education is a right, not a privilege.
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>>72873139
Yeah in the US it's very black and white, at least to my understanding. The way you feel about a political issue is either liberal or conservative. For example regarding abortion, pro-choice is the liberal opinion and pro-life is the conservative opinion. I've heard that European politics are, for lack of a better word, more "complex" than ours. Regarding the post you responded to, yeah I was saying I find it hard to believe that anyone can honestly say that every single one of their political views fall on the same side, whether it's conservative or liberal. Like I said before, pretty much all my political views are liberal. I think weed should be legal, gays should have all the rights everyone else does, etc. Except immigration, I feel like liberals are way too soft regarding it. It would be nice if we lived in a perfect world where everyone lives in harmony and borders are unnecessary but that's not reality.
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I'm fairly certain most people on this website are rather left wing. On racial politics, not so much. But on other issues people here seem to be to the left.
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>>72864063
Heroin isn't even that dangerous desu, it's just that it's so addictive.
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a thread meant to bait the leftypantshitters turns into a spergfest about abortion. love it.
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>>72872274
>Unborn humans are an infectious disease

You should've been aborted desu.
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>>72876510
>rather left wing

Depends on your definition of "left."
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>>72874378
You obviously seem like a chill dude, I would most likely get along with you.

The only reason Europe has a way bigger spectrum is because we're a shitload of countries with very different views.

In most countries there are two major parties or coalition of parties battling it out to rule the country, kind of like US, but with more parties making compromises.

Immigration is such a huge question though, that many more extreme parties has gotten alot of traction, which is a shame, since they more often than not, don't have much experience or capacity to take care of other questions. In Sweden our alt-right party is soon our second biggest one, which of course forces other parties to handle thevquestion more seriously, but is a fucking shame since the party members are complete jokers, making a fool of themselves at every chance they can (with an exception of the party-leader).

I think immigration is a tough fucking question, because on one side, there are so many decent people having their lives absolutely fucking ruined that obviously deserve better, and on the other, there are so many culture-clashes making it hard to intigrate in countries, causing tons of uneducated, angry sons of immigrants, fucking up the situation even more.

I personally live in Malmö, Swedens most immigrant-dense city, and while it's in no way what Fox news would have you believe, we've reached the limit. The actual worst part is Romania, not taking care of the gypsy-population, forcing them to come here and beg. You can't have a night out without at least 4 patchy-bearded dudes with one leg hopping up and shoving a mug in your face.

Started ranting a bit there, sorry about that.
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>>72864583
Because it's not white. Only White homogenous nations are good because none whites have an inherent spiritual and genetic disposition towards socially destructive behaviors.

As long as a white society doesn't allow it's faggots to live, it will be a literal utopia.
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>>72863786
Depending "leftist" that could be anywhere between everything and nothing.

And you aren't getting recreational drugs on the right no matter how much you want them. It's "degenerative behavior" that's restricted only to the ruling elite.
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We're too uptight about sex and relationships.

Aspiring to be a conventional alpha male is an unwinnable fool's game and not necessary for success. Inner strength is much more important than meeting external traits.
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>>72876510
You're browsing a website full of white sheltered middle-class kids, no one here leans to the left except on progressive issues perhaps.
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We should expand maternity and paternity leave to at least 1.5 years and 6 months, respectively. Daycare, kindergarten and child health/dental should be public/free.
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>>72863845
>Just means more opportunities for sober people in the long run
>Not thinking all succesfull people are doped up during parties.
How the hell can you party without coke if you are having a job.
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>>72865340
So is a right winger somebody that is perfectly fine with exploiting and mistreating the poor, as long as it's done in an corporate and profitable way.
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>>72865687
Yeah i've been wondering for a while hwy there hasnt been a politician that supports things like environmentalism and legalising soft drugs but also tougher on immigration and a denial of PC culture
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>>72863786
The means of production must be seized by the working class.
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>>72866568
Well automation hasnt really begun yet but I have no doubt that it will leave a lot of people unemployed just like the industrial revolution
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>>72866626
they arent being imported, they just show up and apply for shit jobs
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>Agreeing with people who are turning the West into a shithole with immigration makings us earn less, worsening the quality of life, of products of everyday life, and want everything to be a mass gutter of brown people with no identity


lolno
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>>72870029
it kind of is, that sperm could have been a real person
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