The choice is yours. Divided Europe doesn't stand a chance.

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>>72736555
United.

>>72736555
EU is a ploy designed to flood Europe with shitskins

>>72736555
>this is what federalists believe
Frau Merkel thanks you.

You mean assorted non countries like Slovakia don't stand a chance. France, Britain and Germany will do fine.

>>72736816
I wouldn't be so sure. Non-Western countries have bigger populations and they are rapidly rising.

I'm not against the EU but I think it seriously needs to be reformed. It should serve the peoples of Europe, not itself and if it doesn't address the issues many countries are facing it's doomed to die.

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we need to abandon all kinds of "national sovereignty" and just accept a single, massive, European nation.

Why do you think Trump, an American nationalist, is so Anti-EU? He doesn't want Europe to compete.

>>72736889
Switzerland, Norway and Denmark have a low population and they are amongst the wealthiest countries on earth with happiness indexes off the charts. It means shit to have a big population and to appear powerful if the people in your country live like shit.

Current form of the EU is too Byzantine. I'd be more okay with just having a common army and foreign policy and leave each country to his own.

>>72737028
That's because they are located in peaceful Europe. This enabled them to thrive.

>>72736816
we're only non-non-countries because of the EU, with which we enslave non-countries
Slovakia will do fine

>>72736555
>Italian version says "the choice is ours: unite or perish"
>English version is le ebin memes XD

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>>72737047
I don't think common legislature or parliament is necessary. But I find it unacceptable if any European nation collaborated more with foreign nations than others in Europe. EU works to sort of ensure that they don't. I don't want to live in a world where France had to ally with China because Germany went with Usa. It's Europe against the world from hereon out.

>>72737112
The EU is only one marker of your relevance. Your economy and population being amongst the largest in Europe are more important factors.

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>>72736979
I heard that American nationalists(republicans?) were financing your populist party.Is that true?

>>72736889
And the EU makes sure to put them on the continent rapidly. Nice.
Population =\= relevaance btw even tho it is a boon in some ways.>>72736889

>>72736555
>Europe
>united

I'll take things that are absolutely impossible for 500, Alex.

>>72736555
I'll take perish over joining the union.

>>72737246
Is it true that geert dyes his hair blond and wears blue contact lenses?

>>72737357
This is kind of ironical coming from you.

>>72736979
who is this girl

>>72737459
why?

>>72737319
Relative importance of big European countries (Germany, France, UK) on the world stage is only going to decline. That's a fact.

This weakness will be exploited by outside powers (USA, Russia, China) if there's no EU.

>>72737353
We have our differences but are still kind of united.
What the EU needs is a serious threat, we've been enjoying peace and prosperity for too long. I suggest we nuke Istanbul.

>>72737526
>I suggest we nuke Istanbul.
I as a member of the EU fully support this.
Just make sure that Erdogan is there before dropping the bomb.

Smash the snakes head and the body dies.

>>72737514
Because your nation embody the notion of multicultural and multilingual state.
Which is what EU is all about.

>>72737357
>t. tax haven
Your country is nuffin' but a gloryhole to the big business.

>>72737521
You're right but a large population isn't necessarily going to matter in the future.
Wealth, education and many other factors will decide about the winners and losers of the world to come. We can't compete with our low natality and our cramped continent but we can in other ways. Nobody's going to attack Europe as long as nukes serve as a good deterrence so our enemies are only going to take over economically and it's where we have to improve and outdo other powers of the world. India has a fuckhuge population, Nigeria will too in two decades. Do you look up tot hem and wish Europe was more like them?

>>72737521
>muh relevancy
>muh big countries will abuse their big...uh, something to make us do...uh, something bad

>>72737526
We aren't. There are no-pan European goals because there are no Europeans to speak of.

>>72737613
They also embody the principle of leaving decisionmaking on the lowest possible level which is as anti-EU as it gets.

>>72736555
fuck europe

>>72736555
>2017
>Still believing federalist propaganda
It's not the idea of merging into a single super-state itself that i don't like. It's having to surrender all control over our nation, our resources and our people into the hands of Brussel bureaucrats.

why is it "unite or perish"?

europe was fine the way it was for hundreds of years, and now it's unite or perish???

>>72737353
It is, keep your catholic/protestant shit and other useless reasons for wars and european internal strifes somewhere else.

>>72737521

Sure it will and its inevitable as even a united europe at the time seems unwilling and unable to step over its ideals when it comes to threats like turkey. Besides that you cannot outrun the current demographic trends.
As long as territorial integrity and defense capabilities are met (germany, france and poland should be able to make a good core army.), smaller blocs of economically similar countries may work out just fine.
Or an EU minus the flag hymn and comission based on economic utilitarianism alone.

>>72737682
No, I don't look up to China or India. That's why I don't see European decline as something inevitable.

It's natural that when your opponent is weak, you use it as an opportunity. Europe can't afford to be weak and divided.

>>72737743
>just give up everything that made Europe what it is and everything will be fine

>>72737777
Europe is a geographical term. Stop acting like it's some sort of entity since it isn't.

>>72737777
Quads don't lie

>>72737695
>a Czech doesn't undertand that weak countries will be colonised, annexed and exploited

You should study your country's history during the 20th century

>>72737743
>we arent united therefore we must go to war
Shitty exagerration. Wars cost way too mich money nowadays.

>>72737738
The new axis of Evil is strong.

Putin+Trump+Erdogan

Enemies from all sides.

>>72736555
Here's to united federal fortress Europa.

>>72737695
One more thing: EU is based on the principle of subsidiarity - more power for local representation (Europe of regions).

Your own country is incredibly centralised, not the EU.

>>72737858
I did. The lesson is: fight, don't give up, build up strong defenses and don't rely on useless allies that won't come to save you.

And stay the fuck away from anything that smells of communism.

>>72737916
>not the EU

The reason EU isn't centralized YET is because they have been practising the slowly boiled frog strategy (they boiled the frog too fast anyway and now they have Brexit on their hands).

>>72737738
>europe was fine the way it was for hundreds of years, and now it's unite or perish???

Hundreds of years of wars and bloodshed wasn't fine imo. By uniting Europe is not only peaceful but it is able to mitigate the ills of globalization and compete with great powers like US or China.

>>72737916
>EU is based on the principle of subsidiarity
That's what I'd claim too if I wanted people to join a union.
I'll believe it as soon as the EU is powerful enough to get away with centralising unopposed, but doesn't try to.

>>72737923
Right-wing Czechs are absolutely delusional when it comes to the EU. Václav Klaus fucked you up.

You're never going to be another Switzerland or Britain. Pick up the map sometimes.

>>72737953
Brexit is a good thing. UK was the principle actor against further integration. After brexit more federal Europe is more likely to happen.

>>72737738
>europe was fine the way it was for hundreds of years

[citation needed]

>>72736555
>talks about divided Europe being a bad thing
>doesn't even let us unite Ireland
EUsless more like HAHA

>>72736555

Go die lol

We can nukes anyone who try to invade su

>>72738002
The Irish nation is useless.

I love the EU. I hope that we won't leave it, but with out populist government everything is possible.

>>72738004
Can you nuke millions of muslims and Africans in France?

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>>72736555
i truly hope some black block destroy Rome in this day

>>72737738
Hundreads of millions of dead caused by two world wars which started in europe wouldn't say that it was fine.

>>72738059
germans started them

>>72737869
people that starting wars don't think about its cost

>>72738075
Russia, for example, only won.

>>72738075
So you could have a federalized union going to war with north africa or others because it is bigger and more confident?
I dont see how your argument that modern europe will become more warlike without the union keeps true.

>>72738004
>We can nukes anyone who try to invade su
What about people who peacefully immigrate in millions then don't assimilate?

>>72737976
>pick up the map
>mountains literally surround what's now Czechia


Funny that you mention VK when he predicted exactly what's gonna happen with Euro

>>72737990
Brexit is a good thing because it showed people that you can actually get your sovereignty back.

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>>72737738
The death of EU does not mean national sovereignty. It means neo-imperialism with small states under the yoke of great powers.

>>72737968
No, it makes sense. Stronger regions mean weaker nation states and that's good for the EU.

>>72736979
>unelected bureaucrats in brussels legislate laws that they are not authorised to
>have in secret forced european nations to follow their superstate vision through deceit and tricky referendums
>le freedom xDD

>>72738115
>It means neo-imperialism with small states under the yoke of great powers.
So the death of EU means current EU?

>>72738101
Modern Europe can't exist without ANY union either. We (or more like - our banksters and politicians) need at least the economic union to get cheap labor force and invest their money in other countries to increase their profits. The question is how much bureaucracy should be there.

>>72738116
Strong regions are good for the EU until they want to do something the EU doesn't like.

>>72738094
technically they won
but their "muh geopolitics" cost a lot

>>72738206
Basically this. What EU means is: We'll let you decide anything you want. Unless we in Brussels agree it needs to be decided here.

>>72738132
We were a small state under the yoke of Russia in the outer ring of the USSR.

Let me tell you that the EU is profoundly different.

I am old enough to remember.

You should be thankful that you you've never had to experience what eastern Europe had to endure for 40+ years.

>>72737220
it's not an ebin meme, it's a WWII slogan

>>72738104
Are we in the Midde Ages? You think those mountains are going to protect your country? Nice, you have your own pathetic parody of splendid isolation.

Czech Republic is on the periphery of Europe. That's what I meant.

>>72738075
>>72737869
bullshit and demonstrably false, if anything contemporary nations can sustain a far longer war than in the past

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join, or die

>>72738360
>1400: 100 years wars
>1900: 4 years wars
hmmm

>>72738118
>>unelected bureaucrats in brussels legislate laws that they are not authorised to
>unelected

You have no idea how the EU actually works right? Read up on the EP.

>>72738360
Depends on what kind of war. Hybrid war like Russia has going in Ukraine can be sustained for decades. Though if they went on a full conventional offensive to take all of Ukraine they would run out of supplies and money within weeks.

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>>72736555
Here some ancient Bulgarian wisdom.

>>72738519
>khan
we wuz volga bulgar n shieet

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>>72738118
>eu parl is elected
>eu comission is elected by parl
>eu council is elected government leaders
>all changes to treaties and trade deals go through every single national parliament
>undemocratic
????

>>72738563
bulgarians are useless subhumans
bulgaria is 10 years in EU and still poorer than Turkey
they insult turks although they are trash to Turks

>>72738354
>dead center of Europe
>periphery

Wat?

Anyway, copying Switzerland or UK is a question mentality. It could be done but it probably won't because Czechs have been beaten to many times for that kind of pride to take hold.

>>72738439
>EP

Yeah, what a collection of those who were too useless and bland for local politics.

>>72738586
These anti-EU monkey will go through any ridiculous mental gimnastics just to berate the EU.

>>72738613
Hello my Greek friend

>>72736555
fuck off

After all we've done ditching the EU would be a serious mistake in my book. It's nowhere written that EU has to be what it is atm, EU texts aren't biblical scriptures. I'm all for peoples regaining more sovereignty but I'm also for European cooperation and having tight bonds between our nations.

>>72738669
no, it is you who should "fuck off", oh yeah brexit lmao

>>72738426
>he thinks any two countries can raelistically sustain ONE HUNDRED YEARS of continued conflict
brazilian """intellectuals""" everyone
the HYW was the sum of many, many conflicts; with just as many truces in between, which all revolved around the same thing, hence why historians tend to bunch them up and call them the HYW, but no one claims it was a single conflict.

>>72738671
This. EU is what we make it to be.

>>72738729
ah yes European unity, toe the line or be told to fuck off by some barely European mongol. Very appealing.

>>72738671
>EU texts aren't biblical scriptures

They are for Brussels and it would take a Herculean effort to change it. It's far easier to just leave the whole circlejerk behind and start a new one.

>>72738632
>Yeah, what a collection of those who were too useless and bland for local politics.
Your opinion doesn't matter, they're where they are by the will of the European people.

>>72738669
this isn't a party for you, britbong

>>72738775
Why are Brits always so condescending? Do you think you are superior to Finns or other European countries because you've had an empire once?

>>72738102
Imo

The best solution is to give gun to the French, then disarm the police and the army, then let's the French solve the shitskin problem.

>>72738777
.t "has no idea how much shit goes into current EU"
Dismantling and recovering from said dismantling would take 20 years minimum.
Reform can be done incrementally without damaging economies and countries.

>>72738834
>thread is basically "stop having a country or you'll die"
>"why are Brits so condescending?"
You serious?

>>72738842
>then let's the French solve the shitskin problem.
will never happen
france will die

>>72736555
>Unite or perish
Actually scary. Hope EU doesn't more power.

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>>72738929
Only in your dream Mehmet

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>>72738778
>by the will of the European people

Don't make me laugh. Elections into the EP are 90% about local issues. It's like making a 5-year old decide whether he wants to be a banker or a truck driver and then actually making him follow up even though he didn't have to the mental faculties to decide that.

>>72738879
>reform can be done incrementally

Except that you'd have to sack all the current Eurocrats for whom the EU is a sacred cow since they'd oppose it at every turn, along with pro-EU media.

>>72738965
your useless non country wont notice something anyway

>>72738439
>>72738586
I have studied the political institutions of the EU at university. The EU commission and council are indeed not elected by the people, except the ministry which is just the government leaders and a few ministers who discuss matters but in actuality hold no power. The parliament can vote on the secretary of the commission, not the whole commission. You are lying to yourself if you think the EU is fully democratic.

>>72738985
france is dead
arabs and blacks are also manlier than your men

>>72737526

>Nuking Constantinople

Are you crazy ? We should nuka Ankara and conquer Constatinople.

>>72739127
Turkey is one of the strongest countries on earth.

>>72737526
>istanbul
mehmets need not apply
>>72739127
>constantinople
barbosa, my son.

>>72739152
He's a Turk who pretends to be Greek because he was rejected by his kin on /int/. He's sad, ugly and inbred and derails threads with his bullshit spamming

Here is his story

https://desuarchive.org/int/thread/61519569/#q61527690


Mother and father are village people.
Mother was never allowed schooling or any kind of education, was later sold as a nanny under the guise of marriage and suffered my grandmother from my father's side.
It is really a cliche, I shit you not.
She became pregnant with me and I learned later she tried to kill herself with me.
Never wanted me, used me to vent her frustration at how unfair life is.
Threatened and punished me for no reason and made me feel worthless.
Nowadays she is like "I didn't do anything like that :^) it was your own fault for being like that:^)
Why can't you be like these healthily raised children :^) why you got no gf :^) you see me so much in other women that you gave up at any normal relationship :^) Something happened by our own fault?
Your fault, should have told us what we did wrong while you were not there to warn us :^)
Like we would ever listen to a child, kek!"

That said, I left and now she harps on my younger brother's.
That's life

>23
>laz
>short
>fat
>ugly
>dumb
>unemployed

>clean your room they said
I never did
>go get some bread they said
I said I don't want to
>get off the pc they said
I got off 15 hours later
>get a new haircut they said
I cut it myself
>go out and hang out with girls they said
I fuck my hand
>you're worthless
I cry
>shave your face
I shave my ass
>leave the house, go out
I go to toilet
>even kids speak better turkish than you do
>I'm gonna get rid of you soon
>you ate everything in the refrigerator again?
>I was working at your age
>He's your son, you tell him
>What should I say? He doesn't listen
>I don't want to see you like this
>your manboobs are bigger than mine

If allah exists, why hasn't he taken my life yet?

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So what will be the language of USE, American or French?

>>72738738
I know, still don't understand how you could sustain war better than hundreds of years ago considering weapons got way more deadly and wars are really fucking costly in all possible meanings to a country that goes "total war" mode. If you do campaigns like the decades wars or simply feed proxy wars, then I don't understand how you can sustain that much more from back then

>>72739184
equally as sad as people who keep this copypasta at hand and follow him to post it in reply to his messages

I'm a Chinese and I hate the EU, I think Europe much better without EU

>>72739220
He's fucking annoying. You can't talk with him normally.

I compiled that copypasta btw.

>>72739043
Most countries have parliaments elect elect the executive branch. It's literally the same shit with the commission + country quotas.
Teh people elect the council in national elections and it's the institution that makes eu more national than federal. If you want their power trimmed down you want a federal EU.

>>72738613
i am greek

>>72739043
It's Scylla and Charybdis. If the EU is going to be democratic, that means Germs and French are going to decide everything.

>>72739022
We would, the eu actively tries to take steal our fish (95% of gdp), even going as far as imposing sanctions. Not to mention "unite or perish" is absolute insane state sponsored rhetoric. We get killed if we don't join?
A stronger EU means a weaker Faroe.

>>72739210
amies are infinitely less expensive now than they were in the past: mass production, cheap labour, extensive amounts of materials at an easy price; but most importantly, soldiers are cheap. back in the days when national armies were not yet a thing, you had to hire mercenaries, and i mean a lot of mercenaries (think 80% of the army); which would cost you an arm and a leg.
add to that the costs of pillages which were synonym of war, population loss due to mass killings of civilians; and above all diseases.
when detailed records of wars DO start to exist, you come to realize more men died of desease than of combat, i could give you extensive examples if you wanted.
the fact that nowadays diseases are nonexistant among amies means you always have a lot more manpower to field and more soldiers to keep up the fight for as long as you want

>>72738519
What it is it with dying khans and bundles of sticks? Genghis did the same thing with arrows.

>>72739423
>EU has programs that try to protect the ecosystem from overly enthusiastic fishermen who destroy whole populations
When there is no fish left, what will you do?

>pro-EU thread
>Slovak flag, Finnish flag, I am Greek autist, Bulgarian flag
Don't you guys get tired of this? I hope you're at least paid well.

>>72739423
>weaker Faroe.
Small Greek islands are better armed than your non country.
your non country will always be weak

>it's a Slovakian antifa thread

>>72736555
Europeans can't be trusted to govern themselves. Everytime, they manage to fuck it up and cause a world war that kills millions of people.

You people are too savage for such a powerful union.

>>72739536
We have it too. It's a cross-cultural myth. Must be very old.

>>72739567
shitskin

>>72739536
It is an easy to understand by your average person example that demonstrates what unity can achieve, when compared to separatism.

I really don't understand it why people fall for this 'unity' angle that the EU shills. With or without this organisation tieing us together fiscally, we would still trade with one another and visit each other's countries all the same. Comparing us together, we have many cultural and racial similarities also (disregarding the actual non-european EU members). It's as if the public forgot that Europe and the EU and mutually exclusive entities.

The bureaucrats running the EU are totally arbitrary in every aspect save for fiscal matters and matters of law, no?

>>72739605
>>72739625
americans are like white trash of europe
except that europeans are white and americans are shitskins today

>>72736555
How would we perish exactly? This fear mongering is pathetic

>>72739567
they probably are. EU is not stingy with money when it comes to their officials.

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This is the only united Europe I'm willing to consider.

>>72738519
He should have watched Ran

>>72739605
Annex us. God bless the Constitution; God Bless America!

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>>72739058
how do you want to be nuked mehmet ?

do you want we nukes t*rkey or do you want we give nuke to kurds so they can nuke you ?

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>>72739675
>People who disagree with me are shills.

imagine thinking your country is so shit that you have to destroy it to survive

>>72739459
Again, I agree with>>72738441. You can't last long on a total war, WWI and WWII were a case of that. Even if the single soldier is cheaper, the sheer number of conscripts would outweight their cheapness, you'd also have to pull people out of production to the front lines and reorientate the remaining ones to feed the war effort of millions of munitions, food, supplies in general. Weapons are way more deadly, 80% of the casualities in WWI were caused by artillery, and that was 100 years ago, with no nukes, less powerful artillery, bolt action rifles, no long range missiles, no jets etc(btw those cost a fuckload).

>>72739536
Increasing international trade and globalisation is no guarantee against the war. See Europe on the eve of WWI. You need political institutions.

>>72739567
I'm not going to dignify personal attacks with a meaningful reply. Not worth the effort.

>>72739702
Do you want to be defeated by Andalusian peasants again ? kek

>>72739043
It is not completely democratic, but it is not completely governing either.
Most legislation still happens in national parliaments. EU is more of a regulatory body. It is a forum where nations try to find a consensus. Everyone either agrees, or tries to opt out.
Anyone can also leave like the Brits.

I think too many people are duped by the rhetoric in the media. Brexit is just politics as usual. Too much WWII rhetoric, too much national personifications, too much personal relationships between political leaders. There are bigger things behind all this simplified "debate" about the EU.

>>72736555

With all this rhetoric these globalist trash push, why is it they never explain why? Like why the fuck wouldn't sovereign nations survive on their own? They push this shit while calling themselves critical thinkers and then when asked about the merits of their points or reasoning, respond with its not my job to educate you shit lord.

>>72736555
European Federation when

>>72739737
shitskin france wont nuke turkey

>>72739772
Is England so shit that you are trying to destroy it?

People who want the EU want their countries to survive and not get picked off one by one.

>>72739544
But why then have we, norway and iceland fish and the eu doesn't?
The eu has destroyed all the fishing stocks in their waters and ruined the fisihing industry in many countries. Which just goes to show, that you can't have 29 countries decide on a common policy on issues that don't mean anything to most of those countries.

>>72736555
>Do as we say or perish
Sounds like totalitarian propaganda. Even tough maybe it is true, they should be more careful with the choice of words.

>>72739858
>Like why the fuck wouldn't sovereign nations survive on their own?
>what is geopolitics
You're lucky you aren't Ukranian

>>72739805
Why did you think I was talking about you? Are you saying that you consistently shill your ideology on /int/ to the point where you're a recognizable poster and that there's no chance I'm talking to a different Slovak?

>>72739856
> Everyone either agrees, or tries to opt out.
>tries
That´s the key word. For small member states, opting out of directives is not possible, and neither is exiting the EU.

>>72739858
I already expressed my opinion on this. But for some reason, you didn't bother to read the the thread before you typed this out. You don't want to have a meaningful discussion.

Kindly fuck off to >>>/pol/.

>>72739567
I wonder why most Americans posting on 4chan are anti-EU. must have nothing to do with their right-wing nationalist tendencies and maybe wanting to rule out competition?

at least I hope their alt-right Russian masters are paying them well :^)

>>72739663
No, You will not perish. You have commonwealth so just unite with them.

>>72739905
google "join, or die" and read where it came from

>>72739966
>and neither is exiting the EU

How come?

t.different mongol

>>72739945
Because I made this thread?

>>72739984
No thanks

>>72739966
Exiting the EU is quite possible and small members did block the push for refugee redistribution.

>>72739945
because the OP was Slovak? you're really bad at this

>>72739981
what a retarded bastard nationality

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>>72739877
*Ten nukes have been sent to Anatolian Kurdistan"

Soon

>>72739981
>Russia is now "alt-right"
Probably the most hilarious thing I have ever read on this board. Also hilarious being called a Russian shill by a Greek, who suck their dicks more than any nationality in Europe besides Belarus.

>>72740055
meanwhile in reality 10 arabs fuck your mother

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>>72739899
people who want the EU are bureaucrats who want to propagate their leech class, lefties who don't care about any underlying principles but see the EU as a step towards destroying borders and homogenising the world, and poor southern/easterners who want it for free money

pic related

The Hares argued all should be equal. The Lions replied: “Your words are good; but they lack both claws and teeth such as we have.”

>>72739823
>"""Defeated"""

The Spanish Ulcer was a painful distraction, sure, but don't delude yourself into thinking it wouldn't have been crushed sooner rather than later if the British hadn't intervened.

>>72740024
Don't mind him, he's one of those 'different opinion than me must be a shill' plebs.

>>72740024
What about all the other threads and pro-EU shillposts? You're a bit defensive lad, if I'm not talking about you there's no need to be.

>>72740098
Scotland is a money drain in the UK, should they secede?

>>72740084
calm down Drupmfkin, keep serving your Russian masters :^)

>>72739966
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opt-outs_in_the_European_Union
Then you need to blame your own politicians if they fail to opt out. If all else fails you can go full Orban, and still not get kicked out of the club. The problem is the national politicians, not the EU or its structure itself. There are many ways to do politics.

>>72740038
Why? Canada and Austrailia, India are good country. Or you can just offer america to join in.

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>>72740087
>*rab
>fucking anything
lmao

mfw niggers fuck your women
mfw French push racemixing onto shitskin
mfw you're a mongrel race thanks to us
mfw we're jewing shitskins

>>72740128
>person I mentioned in my post backpatting another person I mentioned in my post
Not helping with the perception that there are three or four people making all these threads and posts, friendo.

>>72740098
>people who want the EU are bureaucrats who want to propagate their leech class
So 48% of the people who voted on Brexit are bureaucrats?

>>72739805
>You need political institutions

N A T O
A
T
O

>>72740012
Small member states don´t have enough leverage to negotiate trade agreements with the EU. Thus, the options for said parties are: staying in the economically-motivated union, or facing massive tariffs, a weakening currency and a stagnating economy.

>>72740189
i dont make jokes
france is really fucked
your capital is even worse

This disgusting European dictatorship will end one day.
I hope as soon as possible.

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>>72740194

>>72740128
You all do shill though. Everybody knows who you are because of it. This isn't even a politics board, just fuck off already

>>72740147
Umm sweetie you call THAT trolling?

>>72740223
Just lefties

>>72740287
a lot of threads on /int/ are political. you just notice it when you don't like it

>>72740147
How about your German masters?

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>>72736555
Europeans uniting, eh?

>>72740302
>sweetie
L O N D O N
O
N
D
O
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>>72739658
>except that europeans are white
Hmmmm

>>72740169
>Then you need to blame your own politicians if they fail to opt out.
They shouldn´t be burdened by decisions related to opting in or out of totalitarian, globalist EU-bureaucrat nonsense in the first place.

>>72740137
we're all separated by degrees, in terms of history and culture scotland is far closer to other UK members than the UK is to bulgaria, and bulgaria has a far larger discrepancy in their EU contribution than scotland does in their UK contribution. personally i don't prefer that they stay or go, mostly because if they choose to go they obviously don't feel very close to us, but also because we'd be politically better off. economically i can't say it would be better or worse, but economics is far less important with such a close union than it is with an almost purely economic union such as the UK has with bulgaria

>>72740223
you've shown succinctly that you're not capable of reading an entire post

>>72736979
He watts a divide europe to make individual trade deals with each country and get the Best cut POSSIBLE.

>>72736555


Good


Fuck all of you leeches.

>>72740302
He is not trolling my fellow unemployed chav.
How is that new workplace that has opened just for you since you've exited the EU?
>inb4 we are still in the EU
I will remember to ask you once again when you are out for good.

>>72740355
america is a shitskin country
turks are more white than americans

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>>72740355
>murdoh empire pumps out left propaganda to fuel it's right propaganda
really makes you think

>>72737437
really?

>>72740400
ah yes it's a retarded Redditor who thinks Britain is in the midst of a second Great Depression episode

>>72740412
really makes you think

>>72740408
t.urk

>>72740287
>Everybody knows who you are because of it.

WTF you're being creepy and delusional.

t. this is a first EU thread I've posted in

>>72740400
Topical post lad
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/mar/25/pret-a-manger-looks-to-uks-teenagers-to-tackle-looming-staff-crisis

>>72740474
No it isn't, if you don't want people to be "creepy" (hello plebbit) then don't inundate us with Trump and EU threads every day.

>>72740389
Fuck Trump.

Why should we let America and Russia get deals from a place of power when we can get deal on equal grounds as EU members?

When we are in the EU we can't be muscled by America and Russia.

>>72737777

Europe is weak because it's leaders are weak. If its leaders were competent, it would not need the EU, and because its leaders are weak, the EU will never strengthen Europe.

>>72740487
Stop samefagging

>>72740355
t. Son of sons of sons of inmigrants

>>72740266
i also don't make joke

This pic genuine and the BBC going in your women's pussies are also genuine

Same goes for the Kurds in Constantinople they're also genuine, and they're genuinely outbreeeding you.

As for France we will elect the FN to first remove the illegals, and the criminals, then we will push to the right, and expel every shitskins, meanwhile, you're stuck with "muh ummah" "muh islamic brothers" "muh Dariush impregnate my sister pls"

>>72740553
He is not samefagging.

>>72740531
You're here everyday? Talk about creepy.

>>72740591
Yes you are.

>>72740531
sure thing bub

>>72740553
shut the fuck up, Drumpfoid

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>>72740553
There are more than one Bulgarians in this thread.

>>72740546
>we can't be muscled by America and Russia
>instead get muscled by Germany and France

I prefer America.

>>72740595
90% of /int/ is here every day, it doesn't take much effort to open a new tab at work, but you wouldn't know anything about work would you mr. Antifag.

>>72740553
>if someone doesn't agree with me, they are either shills or samefags
>>>/pol/

>>72740641
3 dollars per post, wasn't it?

>>72740609
Finnish flag

>>72740616
>Drumpf

>>72740620
The same Bulgarian again

Really makes you think.

>>72740641
>Antifag
You miss those nicknames from reddit, don't you? Everyone who disagrees with you must be a communist, right?

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>>72740679
foy

>>72740706
wow touched a nerve there didn't I? Don't you have a garbage can to assault with your skinny little noodle arms or a public bathroom wall to scrawl your little organization's name onto?

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>replying to American posts

>>72740637
>I prefer America.
>throw consumer rights out of the door
>throw work ethics out of the door
>throw product screening and control out of the door
Do you even know how many EU laws are protecting you right now from corporation exploitation?

>>72740734
Shan't read a single pixel of that, fuck you and fuck your constant shill threads.

>>72740753
I find it funny how you assume that I'm him. Whatever.

>>72740753
>u mad bro

remind me again why are we replying to americans

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>>72740802
>why would you assume I'm him
>literally gets triggered by the word "antifag"
Keep it coming.

>>72740797
*corporate
>>72740679
>The same Bulgarian again
You are delusional.

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>>72740801
My thread?

>USA with the help of its European puppets destabilizes half of the area around Europe
>massive refugee waves from North Africa and the Middle East
>an always American-supported Turkey giving Europe the middle finger all the way while Libya can't control the influx in North Africa

the Great Satan must pay at some point

>>72736555
EU can go fuck itself, I'd rather my country join Canada than get in bed with you lot.

>>72740863
Nobody's buying it, bud, sorry.

>>72740881
>second post happens to coincide with the post cooldown time
Go ahead, go on your phone to get around it, get it over with.

>>72736555
But english is not an official anguage anymore since UK left

>>72740361
>buzzword
>buzzword
>buzzword
That's just your opinion, not an argument.

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>>72740958
I'm already on my phone yank.

>>72740985
We haven't left yet and it will still be an official language because of Ireland and Malta.

>>72741046
No, it will not be, both those states used their language tickets on their local meme languages rather than the ones they really use.

>>72740797
>from corporation exploitation?

Funny, just yesterday we got the official company ban on playing the radio since we are not paying the dues for radios. Amazon keeps on working the people like robots. Whole of Eastern Europe is getting inferior food since the European corporations are confident they can get away with it. Protected my ass.

>>72736979
Europe already cNt compete.

>>72737072
It's because they aren't polluted with niggers.

>>72741152
>Whole of Eastern Europe is getting inferior food since the European corporations are confident they can get away with it.
Don't you have a check for your foods on a local government level?Just sue them if you find out that there is a problem with the food.
>Funny, just yesterday we got the official company ban on playing the radio since we are not paying the dues for radios.
What??????
>Amazon keeps on working the people like robots.
If they are breaking EU laws you can sue them.You should read up on your rights as a worker in the EU.

>>72740119
>The Spanish Ulcer was a painful distraction
You could not invade Andalusia m8. We did not even need british support for kicking you out from Sevilla and Málaga.

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>>72736555
FUCK EUROPE OFF, WE WUZ TARTESSIANS AND SHIEEET

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>>72740801
>Shan't

>>72741296
>that there is a problem with the food

The problem is that the food is of inferior quality yet costs the same as in the West. If that's not corporate exploitation, what is?

>wat

It has something to do with companies playing music without license since it's a public setting. FYI the company is German and has LOTS of autistic rules along with fines.

So yeah, I don't see how Americans could get that much worse than what already happens.

>>72741613
>I don't see how Americans could get that much worse than what already happens.
You have no idea. IP(intellectual property) laws in America are so fucked that you'd be crying to come back in Europe.It is mostly American companies that pushed those laws in Europe.Back when the EU and America were ''allies''.

>>72740998
>That's just your opinion
Politics is nothing but opinion.

>>72736555
Europe needs to reform, there is no other way around it. At the moment people like Juncker are just ruining it. I don't care if it goes the federalized route or the simple economic union route, however no matter which route it chooses, it needs to be done correctly. At the moment the EU doesn't know what it wants to be and that just ruins the whole flow of the union.

I just want this whole bureaucratic mess to stop and the people in charge to start doing something instead of sitting on their thumbs all day.

>>72739043
lol

cabinets aren't elected at all either, not even prime ministers are, it's how 90% of democracies in the world work like

>>72736706
No it's an American Ploy to spread their cancerous globalist ideologies and have influence over Europe.

I really hope most of posts here are ironic lads

>>72742959
Sorry lad but i am dead serious.
We need a EU federation.

>>72738118
>>unelected bureaucrats in brussels legislate laws that they are not authorised to
The EU has an assortment of things one could choose to revile, but instead you choose to invent something from your imagination.

The EU Parliament is an elected body you daft thing. Even the president of the Comission, and therefore the Comission is indirectly elected. Be mad about the EU judges, be mad about the EU's deputies pay, be mad about the Lisbon treaty being undemocratic. But be mad about something real geeze.

>>72741199
You're economically behind us though. Heh.

>>72743050
Georgi pls
drink less rakija

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>>72743235

>oh we are economic union free trade vote to join us oops now we are a political union lets all become one and unite and give up all your national authorities to us without ever asking the citizens :^)

>>72742656
>what is representative democracy

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>>72743824
that pic always gets me

>>72743330
In what sense? Once the UK leaves, your minor advantage in total GDP will cease to exist

>>72736555
Fuck the EU and fuck Europe

>>72744390
>Once the UK leaves, your minor advantage in total GDP will cease to exist
That'll be in two years though. Ain't fair to be bantering one another with the future.

>>72745050
Also the UK will just rejoin once their economy collapses, as it did the last time they left.

>>72745305
>as it did the last time they left.
Uh?

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Why are you trying to become like American States.

It's a shame, Europeans used to be powerful and nationalistic, thinking themselves better than their neighbors and now they all are scared and want to band together.

This century Is America+Asia

Time of Europe is over

>>72745333
Uhh nevermind. Mandela effect fuckup.

>>72742959
>the biggest leech in the EU which developed from a third world post communist shithole to a decent country with nice infrastructure crying how bad it is

>>72743824
>>what is representative democracy
and its the same thing in the EU, cretin

you don't elect the EU Commission directly just like you don't elect your PM directly

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>>72736555
its a EU desperately tries to be like USA episode

>>72736555
I'd rather perish and take as many of you with me than live in a dystopian hellhole like that

>>72746592
>this random as fuck projection
t. Heinrich von Posen

>>72745617
>Europeans used to be powerful and nationalistic
Nationalistic? For how long, less than a century??? The powerful part didn't kick in until like XIX century either.
>Time of Europe is over
If EU implodes then it sure as fuck it will be

>>72745617
And why Americans hate the EU so much? Is that because the EU protects our markets and we can't be fucked over in bilateral relations with the US which one on one is a giant compared to any European country? Is that why this mentally handicapped monkey, Trump, is sperging so much about the EU and Germany?

>>72747425
Because of its holier-than-thou attitude

>>72747425
I'm not against the EU, we're not all the same